OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

seguun:

I don't really get you...

ifenes:


Why one of the anunaki was walking in the garden you meant??/

Ok give me a concrete proof how jesus died and paid your dept?

1 Peter 3:18

18 For Christ also suffered[a] once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,

ifenes:


How do you come about God has no beginning and no end?

OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

KingEbukasBlog:

How did you come about that god is an annunaki

seguun:
Only God doesn't have a beginning and end. Every other thing was created and therefore has a beginning and will surely have an end. So, be it an angel or a demon has a lifespan.

KingEbukasBlog:


a mishmash of outlandish ideas .

You have been brainwashed to think that deflecting bullets using charms can be explained by science . If all these had scientific explanations , scientists would be the most powerful people on earth - they could use their powers from their "understanding " of nature to do and undo - by simply tuning their brains into this elusive high frequency . You guys propose asinine BS to accommodate your unbelief

Can you explain why herbalists need human heads for rituals using science . Or can you explain miracles - lame walking , blind seeing etc - by mere calling of the name of Jesus using science too ?

You are trying so hard to obliterate any proof of the supernatural - anyway for admitting these events are real I'll give a thumb up

muafrika:
oglalasioux
That was thorough. Thanks.

Your explanation though does not account for why those powers fail(ed) en masse and seem to work with respect to populations. How come those charms failed against white invaders centuries ago. African villages were "protected" on so many levels by the African gods, that even visitors hard to undergo ritual to be welcomed. They did, and broke those covenants with no repercussions.

What happened to the African gods 500 years ago when other people's (gods) vengefully made in ways onto their land, killed, took captive, enslaved, subdued and took over an entire continent. The answer is also the answer to OLAADEGBU'S question.

The European people are still pillaging, we are still labouring for them in other ways.

The truth is that the African gods were subdued for a season. Not killed, subdued. Just like it has happened throughout the ages to other races/peoples. The Principality that rules over the African people was bound. For a certain period of time. (That season has since changed. Africans are gaining their losses back gradually. )

oglalasioux:


You raised three points

1. Reasons white men don't use high brain frequency.

2. Why herbalists need human head for sacrifice.

3. Explain the lame walking and the blind seeing.

My answers:

1. Scientists know far more than you can imagine. The US army has technologies that can blow your very mind. In fact one scientist, Arthur Clarke, described the level of science today as divinity. The human brain has reached all time high. Almost nothing is impossible for science; even diseases, ageing and death is at their twilight. Open your mind and do some research especially on science of the future.

2. Herbalists need human head and other vital parts for sacrifice because they contain certain energies such as etheric energy. Etheric energy which is present in blood, brain, sperm, breast milk are so powerful that with certain mixtures they connect to higher energy fields. I suggest you ask google more about etheric energy.

3. The miracles as recorded in the bible are in line with my arguments except on the issue of restoring broken limbs. Science can restore sight, heal the mentally ill (otherwise known as demonic powers). Your pastors whom you claim shout mere name of Jesus has forgotten that Jesus had to rub a substance in the eyes of a blind man to heal him (John 9:6-7). Your pastors are fakes because there has never been anyone anywhere on planet earth who has had his broken limbs restored or his sights restored by your pastors. I challenge you to give me any instance. I believe the internet will help you know if anyone has so been healed.

oglalasioux:


Thanks for having the time to go through my write up.

Let's look at it this way. When the Portuguese first came to West Africa, the African gods were powerful because they didn't understand what they were. Fast forward to when electromagnetic waves and nuclear forces were discovered. The white man now have an idea and their coming back was devastating. Sudden deaths were discovered to be malaria and quinine took care of that. The white man used radio jamming to finish us off. (Have you discovered how phones and radio signals fluctuate near shrines? I know a community in Enugu state where your GSM won't work though there are masts everywhere.)

muafrika:
Really?

I was watching a documentary about the Bermuda triangle. Things(ship, aircraft have been disappearing in that area. The scientist measured an abnormal electromagnetic field that causes electromagnetic storms over that whole area. Hmm.

oglalasioux:


It's good that you research. Please keep it up. My point has always been that religion is a scam. Those who started it might not have known but we are developed enough to know.

However, I'm not against anyone for his or her belief. For instance, I'm not against Shekau believing that he will sleep with 70 virgins when he gets to heaven. That's his business. If he thinks he can only achieve that by bombing innocent people then it's OUR business. It's up to us to stop him and proscribe the religion that put the thought in his head.

muafrika:
Religion(which I understand as collective behaviour of a group) may be a scam, but personal faith isn't. What you are showing here is your faith. Me too.

Can you do something(anything out of the normal) with these waves? I'd like a demonstration.

KingEbukasBlog:


I'm sure scientists not being able to tune their brains to high frequencies got you and you can't explain why . Ogbeni old African men in the villages could tune their brains to high frequencies through an 'elusive' science while the ones who study it can't do same and solve the mysteries of the universe .

Gerara hia mehn



Na so . And they could not use a syringe to collect blood but need certain human parts so that same blood would be taken ?

Gerara hia mehn





Mr. Man I said miracles in the name of Jesus and you are telling long stories .

Psalm 50:15

15 and call upon me in the day of trouble;I will deliver you, and you shall glorify me.”

Some pastors are fakes quite alright , meaning you have accepted that there are true men of God . Ogbeni enter church and see God doing wonders and stop scribbling half cooked inchoate babbles on Nairaland


Gerara hia mehn shiiit

oglalasioux:


Remember I am not against anyone's faith. What I am against is how the exercise of that faith affect others. I hope my last post made that clear.

There is nothing in the universe that is out of the normal. If you came up with GSM phones in your village in 1900 and was making calls with your phone on speak out, everyone would believe without doubt that it's God on the other end. You would have been venerated and worshipped. That's how it is. What you think is a miracle today will turn out to be technology in the next hundred years. However, you can research invincibility through the meisnner effect or superconductors. It'll explain the use of natural forces like gravity and electromagnetic waves to create invincibility. Research the two nuclear forces and particle entanglement. It'll help you understand more. Thanks.

oglalasioux:


Lol. Your 'gerara hia mehn' got me cracking.

I don't intend to make you fall from your faith. We were only arguing as educated people. It was nice exchanging ideas with you. Let's assume you've won. Feel better.

oglalasioux:


Remember I am not against anyone's faith. What I am against is how the exercise of that faith affect others. I hope my last post made that clear.

There is nothing in the universe that is out of the normal. If you came up with GSM phones in your village in 1900 and was making calls with your phone on speak out, everyone would believe without doubt that it's God on the other end. You would have been venerated and worshipped. That's how it is. What you think is a miracle today will turn out to be technology in the next hundred years. However, you can research invincibility through the meisnner effect or superconductors. It'll explain the use of natural forces like gravity and electromagnetic waves to create invincibility. Research the two nuclear forces and particle entanglement. It'll help you understand more. Thanks.

KingEbukasBlog:


Lolzz ... Won ke ?

Anyways your theories conspicuously show that you are trying so hard to obliterate any evidence of the supernatural - explaining them using science .

Science is the study of nature . SUPERNATURAL is beyond science , meaning you need a lot more than science to comprehend supernatural events .

But wait !

What convinced you that the supernatural could be explained using science . Don't you think those events explained by science were not supernatural but natural ones . Rainfall was once thought to be a supernatural event you know .

oglalasioux:


Am I to believe you'll like us to continue our educative discussion? I'll like to because I open my mind to knowledge. I could learn a great deal from you even if you didn't learn from me.

muafrika:

How long would that lifespan be? Thousands of years? Ages. Angels like Michael were mentioned by Enoch and still referred to in future prophecies by prophets like Daniel and John.

Men have spirits, which do not die when their flesh dies, and similarly angels/demons who are spirit from their beginning cannot die. Not in the sense of shutting down their bodily functions and decomposing back (to what?)

seguun:


Sorry for the very late reply.

Exactly! their lifespan can last for even millions of years. So its possible for them to be around during the time of all the prophets yet still be around today. That doesn't mean they can not die.

You see, if you go by all calculations you will come to understand. Firstly, going by the logic of all the three major religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism), you will discover that everybody believes God is the only IMMORTAL. This simply means everything has its expiring date except God. Even in the Yoruba traditional religion Orishas do die. that's why when a particular orisha stops granting people's requests even after meeting all obligations...it is presume the orisha is dead and therefore worshippers stop worshipping that particular Orisha.

In the Islamic faith, it is believed that at the end of time God will put an end to all matter including the angels and exit alone for thousand of years. He will then continue to call out saying; whoever or whatever is immortal should come now. Behold! nobody and nothing will answer him for 40 thousand years before he will then raise us back to life for judgement.

ifenes:


How do you come about God has no beginning and no end?

muafrika:
No problem.

I believe that too. And that spirits do age. They get wounded, etc. There are spirits/demons which are lame, dumb, blind, mute etc.

40, 000yrs? I hope we'll be in a good place in the nonexistence. The bible is silent on the period after the reign of Christ, which is the next age that we expect on earth, but silent on life when God shall take rule. Just that there will be a literal new heaven and new earth. Our prophecies are mostly about our age.

OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

Marchman:


Lol

Debeloved87:


their battle is not of sword and spears, but of the souls of men..

Debeloved87:


How you doing bro..