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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:29pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
agaugust: Ok, 3000 men pushed back 200. Thats not "fleeing" This, however is "fleeing" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY36o7O6LpY 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 1:57pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry is finishing you guys here while Africaken is whipping you on the other thread. This is really nice. South Africa defence force using media to hype themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:Since when is a witness a Journalist??Also you have yet to prove that BBC Journalist were in CAR 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:1. Your Link doesn't work 2. Those were not our objectives, if we were there to protect the capital, we would've sent many more troops, helos, MRAPs ect. Our objectives were to protect Bozize, which we did and train a few hundred troops, which we did. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: Stop telling blatant lies..... Seleka provided no such figures! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Patchesagain: What do you mean by does he actually he that? He clearly states Seleka broke through a South-African defence, what else is there to be written? You were humbled by a bunch of rebels in the CAR, you fled home........ to steal laptops in South-Africa! 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:50pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: Been posted here many times Stop wasting my time 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
jln115: - it works perfectly. - your president argues differently, or are you calling Zuma a liar? You cannot protect a person who isn't there.... It's simply not possible. A few hundred troops who fled like the SANDF. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:52pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: You said we fled - we did not Yes, being outnumbered 30:1 tends to get you pushed back Shall we discuss your men in the NE? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:53pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: Citatons have been provided outlining our mission He was protected while he was there Who said we fled? This is beyond facetious at this point... 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689:You are wasting your own time. You posted south-african stories no one can verify. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:55pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: A story told by men INSIDE BANGUI quoting the name and Rank of the Seleka soldier who told them. But if "no one can verify" then the same applies to your sources. Either way, i win 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: Are you calling Zuma a liar? Are you drunk? How many times am i to show you the reports of stranded SANDF troops begging the french for safe passage? Are you now back in the CAR? Do you even know the meaning of fled? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:57pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:-If it worked perfectly, why would I say it doesn't work?? - No he doesn't: http://www.dfa.gov.za/docs/2011pq/pq78.html - Yes, it was recommend that Bozize leaves, the fact is, his alive, thus mission accomplished!! -If we fled, then why did Seleka surrender?? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: You must be drunk! Quoting a random/any individual doesn't equal Seleka General. Eric Massi Seleka spokesman says they broke through a South-African defence. "You win?"....... South-African delusion at it's height. You win using false stories the rest of the world, including Africans cannot verify. Wow! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:08pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
jln115: Do you know what a witness is? Or are you as dull as patches? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:Do you know what a Journalist is? or are you as dull as Agubugu? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:13pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:It is too early on into 2016 for patchesagain and his south Africans e-troops to be on the defensive, taking heavy fire like this. Damn!! This comment is like a judge's hammer that silences all debate and submission on the Bangui operation. Anyone disputes it just love to read his own comment. I have extended my holiday further. Submissions like this need no efforts of mine. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:15pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: And his men say they suffered heavy casualties It also says nothing about HOW LONG it took them to do so So when you have evidence to refute my claims you can get back to me 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
jln115: - For starters, for been a South-African. Google up the comment, it isn't difficult to find. - Seleka gave the man(President) you are supposed to be protecting a 72 hours ultimatum. It shows how inept the SANDF is. Do you know what Nigeria did when Charles Taylor's Presidency was threatened by rebels........ Nigeria invaded Liberia! - Seleka doesn't confirm that they surrendered. Seleka says the brushed aside SANDF troops. A few hours later, they took the capital, while SANDF troops..... Or what was left of it, fled the country. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
lezz: LMFAO.... Typical South-Africans! They are trying to sell fairy-tale stories no one, absolutely no one is interested in buying. Happy New Year man! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:21pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: - is he still alive and free? Consider him protected! - South africa is not in the business of invading soveriegn states, and we were never there to fight rebels in the first place - Seleka never said they brushed us aside What is the point of this argument? Do you really get enjoyment from concocting things that dont exist? Furthermore, how exactly is this humiliating? Should 200 men defeat over 3000? What happened to the Americans in Mogadishu? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:22pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: "Fairy tales" Yet i do not see you disproving any of our claims Prove our claims wrong 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:24pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: His men are who and who...... Random individuals aren't Seleka commanders? you a South-African General because i say so.... Although, pushed, i pick you over your incompetent generals who have shown no battlefield tactics/acumen. You are selling stuff nobody is buying. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:Why should I Google it when I have an official SA Government source, confirming our objectives in CAR?? http://www.dfa.gov.za/docs/2011pq/pq78.html And? So they gave Bozize an ultimatum not us, we protected him, mission accomplished. We were also ready to invade CAR with Gripen,Helos and 2000 men within hours after the attack, no other SS country has rapid force projection capability even near that!! And the reason we didn't invade WSS due to the AUs recommendations. And there are countless sources that Seleka surrendered. lastly read Helmoed Heitman's book!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:30pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: So you have abandoned your argument and now employ cheap ad-hominems and insults?? Answer the questions: - who said we were brushed aside? - how long did it take them to enter the capital? And fyi, the names and ranks of his men have been provided and he does not refute their cliams, no one does. Henry, your hate for RSA is pushing you to behave like a clown. Also, i find it rich that you insult us while your own army was kicked out of 46 towns and cities, 1.6 million of your people made homeless and 30 000 killed... not to mention the girls who have not been brought back 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: Sure....... Only problem is Zuma kinda disagrees. Zuma says South Africa "rejects any attempt to seize power by force," and that the soldiers' deaths will not keep the country from working to prevent the overthrow of elected government. - Oga are you high? The man fled the country na!! How are you supposed to protect a diamond in a mall, if the diamond isn't in the mall in the first place? - Nigeria is in the business of protecting democracies and elected government, just like South-Africa (Zuma confirms this)..... The only difference is, while we Succeed in doing this in practical terms, South-Africa fails. - Seleka said they "broke through a South-African defence", after which a couple of hours later, they took over government. that's what happens when you get brushed aside. Synonyms! The point is to re-confirm what is already known around Africa.... The SANDF is an incompetent, Inept poorly trained, poorly resourced and poorly-motivated force that is incapable of completing the most basic of tasks. "Who gives a sh1t about Americans?"..... We not talking America. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:38pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240: - read our mission objectives, zumas statements mean nothing - is he alive and free? Yes or no - you think Charls Tailor is the leader of a democratic state? - all they said is they broke through the defence... nothing about time or casualties. Fact - ask 400 dead seleka about the SANDF. If you attack an ememy with over 3000 men, amd he stops you dead for 13 hours, kills 400 of your men and you have to sign a cease fire... how does that make your enemy incompetant? - Americans had the exact same situation, are they incompetant, poorly lead, poorly resourced and lacking in motivation? if this is an indication of the SANDF being useless... what then is 46 captured towns and cities, 1.6 million homeless and 30 000 dead? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689: Typical siege mentality..... When cornered sprout out hate. If you haven't noticed, Nigerians aren't the only Africans who do not accept your fairy-tale stories. - Seleka spokesperson - a couple hours later, and they took the capital. Eric Massi is the Seleka spokesperson, any other story, which cannot be corroborated is purely a figment of the wet dreams of South-African journalists. Reports which have been roundly rejected. The Nigerian Army completely, I mean completely is in control! 1.6 million Nigerians who are mostly in the care of the Nigerian state while their homes which most of them have gone back to was cleared of terrorists. Nothing to be ashamed of. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
patches689:They also had about 200 men vs 4000 rebels!! Difference is the US had airsupport(16 helicopters!!), we had absolutely fokol airsupport , they lost 18 men and 70+ wounded, we lost 13 and 27 injured, They killed about 400 militia, according to NGOs we killed close to 800 Seleka They had to be evacuated, we fought untill the enemy surrendered. And they made a fvcking movie about it, and we didn't. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
Henry240:Oh, their method has become stale and boring. We only engage and spar with them for charity Happy NewYear man, you have been spectacularly brilliant. @Agaugust too. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Jan 13, 2016 |
jln115: - You probably need to send that link to your lawmakers, as they seem to believe SANDF troops were in the CAR to protect business interests. Even your President Zuma, who signed of say's differently. - what does protect mean? Is the Republic of South Africa trying to redefine the term protect?" He was given an ultimatum, and he fled = Protect! - You were prepared to respond on Paper.... Cool story bro. Nigeria responded in reality Kenya responded in reality Egypt responded in Libya in reality South-Africa responded on paper Utter hopelessness of what is supposed to be a defence force. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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