So buhari won't leave all these niger delta guys alone? Those people are more rugged than boko haram ooo. Hummm

Only Fools would believe that FG can fight 3 simultaneous insurgency on its soil without total collapse.

Remember the legalese of sweet crude is fast becoming a worthless bargaining chip.

murphyibiam15:

guy i have been reading most of your posts and i like your basic line of thinking..the emboldened is especially true,how can one submit himself to a court in which the president himself disobeys..the president cant disobey court orders and would want others to obey same...is unnatural

Glad you see my point. When we said PMB should follow the rule of law, they said they rather he be a tyrant.

Now Tompolo has also decided to be above the law, and the same blood-thirsty people want to start a war in the relatively peaceful ND.

To me, Nigerians are now more involved than ever in the governance of this country (especially at the federal level). If PMB follows the rule of law, these looters and criminals will still be brought to book, or there will be a backlash from the public. For example, look at the stiff bail conditions from the Judiciary? And the judges had made it clear that the bail does not mean that they have been acquitted. Which means, they will still be tried when all the evidence have been compiled.

So it is very surprising why PMB does not want to honor the decisions by the courts?

So far, he has not given a compelling reason. This is worrying. I hope PMB does not intend to contest again in 2019. Because he cannot count on Nigerians to use democracy to give him power again and then insult us to our faces by flouting the constitution and the rule of law that oversees the process.

I want PMB to succeed, but I cannot bring myself to accept his methods.

Whatever is worth doing, is worth doing well/right.

All the best mate!

-Lord

tayebest:


The ediot will be caught, hold in detention, chop iron beans like that of kanu, el zakyzaky, metuh et all, And nothing will happen. I mean NOTHING


Continue vandalizing and spoiling your region because you have fuse with FG.

OLODO

When last did u brush ur teeth?

vickylala239:



Bros you are wrong in some aspect....

I once had encounter with one of those militant enjoying the welfare you claim....

The guy said that Wat they pay them is too small compared to what they usually get...according to him he said is 60k Abi 65k(this is Wat u call bumba welfare).

I ask him is 65k not better than endangering you life in the forest and you culd easily be killed...he laf @ me and said he is Evn more safe than me who does nothing.

He said even if they are arrested, that before you know the will be release back....meaning they have strong ppl in government.. ...

He Also said that while There money was never their prblm,that he culd see millions in a week.....

He said that even though they call them militant that they are well taken care of....

As he continue talking he said he is even regretting Eva letting down his arms,that initially he was not expecting 65k a month.

I was Jst looking @ this man...in my mind you are not doing anything,you didn't go to school yet u are paid for nothing....yet you are piss......

For him to call 65k for doing nothing I believe they were seeing millions....

The said he was actually from south ijaw......

That was ma 1st time of seeing such Ppl and even talking to himm......

I want to Also ask you!! You said this government has a poor record of respecting judiciary.. how do you mean?

make i help the guy answer ur question
the court ordered an unconditional release of kanu and the bail of dasuki but the president disobeyed it by using DSS to rearrest them...get it now?

It wont deterred not stop us and PMB from moving on,they should just make sure we do not arrest dem,if we do,no prosecition,no nothing,na life in detention straight

I'm not saying it will happen oh, but imagine a situation where, niger deltan's start real chaos and war against the government (SS), plus the boko haram case in the (NE), IPOB are armed and start their own wahala (SE), and shitte muslims armed (NW), plus other small small groups fighting for one thing or the other.
With all the hate comments online from Nigerians that speaks volumes from d depth of their hearts.
Plus with the alleged victimisation of the opposition party that has the capacity to sponsor and encourage all these factions.
Can our military N.A cope with all these chaos?
Can Nigeria cope?
Can west africa cope?
Will there be a country for PMB to dictate over?
As a concerned citizen I'll advice everyone thread carefully and forge a path of peace and understanding.

LordAdam:


Glad you see my point. When we said PMB should follow the rule of law, they said they rather he be a tyrant.

Now Tompolo has also decided to be above the law, and the same blood-thirsty people want to start a war in the relatively peaceful ND.

To me, Nigerians are now more involved than ever in the governance of this country (especially at the federal level). If PMB follows the rule of law, these looters and criminals will still be brought to book, or there will be a backlash from the public. For example, look at the stiff bail conditions from the Judiciary? And the judges had made it clear that the bail does not mean that they have been acquitted. Which means, they will still be tried when all the evidence have been compiled.

So it is very surprising why PMB does not want to honor the decisions by the courts?

So far, he has not given a compelling reason. This is worrying. I hope PMB does not intend to contest again in 2019. Because he cannot count on Nigerians to use democracy to give him power again and then insult us to our faces by flouting the constitution and the rule of law that oversees the process.

I want PMB to succeed, but I cannot bring myself to accept his methods.

Whatever is worth doing, is worth doing well/right.

All the best mate!

-Lord

thanks once again.....there is nothing that is as good as following the rule of law..
we are purely in a democratic setting and we should actually be more concern about protecting this democracy

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you need a brain surgery

I beg who are this people fighting for, tompolo? I wonder how much he gives them, fools. They had better leave chevron alone before they cause their packing just like oduahan out of his greed to acquire shell hospital did not intervene to settle the issue amicably. Then shell left delta to imo. Governor okowa, call then to order before it escalates.

don't mind those idiot soon they will question why is fuel 150 in east and 86 in north.

themilanway:
The real question is,after these bombings,whose gains whose loss?

Yes.chop iron beans like Kanu,metu etc.U ar happy nw.abi?dnt worry.soon.ur yoruba land wil pay d price.i bet u

I wont be surprised if tompolo is been setup. Now the FG and DSS have all the excuses to launch a massive manhunt for him.

LordAdam:


Yesterday, Tompolo distanced himself from the attacks.

Tompolo is in a quagmire. First, the success of the ND freedom fight was because there were a lot of groups with shared objectives fighting concurrently in different sections of the SS. Now, it is just Tompolo, and, if he was fighting, his reason for fighting would be for himself and not the region, which means he would not enjoy the wide support from the majority of militants.

Two, most of the militants are already enjoying a massive welfare package and will be less likely to return to the creeks because of one commander's selfish interests.

But with that said, we should all remember that Tompolo has been receiving at least N1b from the government every month in personal welfare packages and defense contracts since Amnesty started in 2009. That is aside the obvious bunkering he has been involved in as a side gig.

Also, remember how he bought a war ship sometime ago? The fact is that at the moment, Tompolo has the money, the means, and the connections to prosecute a war on the Nigerian state without even been in the country. With the supply glut, low oil prices, and an army that is reeling from a challenging BH war, Nigeria will not be as ready to fight this renewed conflict as they were earlier under Yaradua.

But then again, Tompolo can't just submit himself to the authorities. The authorities have a poor record of respecting the judiciary. That is the quagmire. Once again, thousands will likely die because of the interests and actions of a few.

-Lord

Your arguments appear disjointed. And you greatly underestimate the Nigerian state. Just sit back and watch how this plays out.....

This is the reason why I want oil prices to keep plummeting, after a their "oil" would no longer be so special... for starters, the 2016 budget does not depend on oil revenue.

In as much I don't support bloodshed of any sort I belief buhari should slow down a little hhhhmmm mm. .....these guys in Niger Delta called militant they got the cash the connection the weapon the technical know how to wreck the system I'm saying this because couple of them are well known to me personally and their is no way fed govt will attack that region that other militant will not join Tompolo, they will join him I'm 100% sure of that.

So can buhari and Tifnubu handle these:

Boko Haram
MEND
Shiite or shit
Biafra
Fulani militia
OPC brazing up

Can you Mr buhari handle all these with your power hungry attitude Gragra.........is not the solution but wisdom.

allthingsgood:


Your arguments appear disjointed. And you greatly underestimate the Nigerian state. Just sit back and watch how this plays out.....

It is an analysis not an argument.

I am not taking sides, I am being objective (to the best of my ability and knowledge).

As I have said, I am watching with keen interest how this plays out.

-Lord

LordAdam:


Yesterday, Tompolo distanced himself from the attacks.

Tompolo is in a quagmire. First, the success of the ND freedom fight was because there were a lot of groups with shared objectives fighting concurrently in different sections of the SS. Now, it is just Tompolo, and, if he was fighting, his reason for fighting would be for himself and not the region, which means he would not enjoy the wide support from the majority of militants.

Two, most of the militants are already enjoying a massive welfare package and will be less likely to return to the creeks because of one commander's selfish interests.

But with that said, we should all remember that Tompolo has been receiving at least N1b from the government every month in personal welfare packages and defense contracts since Amnesty started in 2009. That is aside the obvious bunkering he has been involved in as a side gig.

Also, remember how he bought a war ship sometime ago? The fact is that at the moment, Tompolo has the money, the means, and the connections to prosecute a war on the Nigerian state without even been in the country. With the supply glut, low oil prices, and an army that is reeling from a challenging BH war, Nigeria will not be as ready to fight this renewed conflict as they were earlier under Yaradua.

But then again, Tompolo can't just submit himself to the authorities. The authorities have a poor record of respecting the judiciary. That is the quagmire. Once again, thousands will likely die because of the interests and actions of a few.

-Lord

Bro I keep wondering why its difficult to track down this tompolo dude. The money u talking about, is it not in the bank? Be it local or foreign? Or does he move about with his billions?
The State has a full power to freeze his account.

Even Bible talk am say "money is a defence"

porshuch:
how much is crude oil now? Remember that America is about to drill their own oil. Maybe Niger delta people will start drinking dia oil.

In 1983 crude oil sold for $7 per barrel. Like every other commodity it fluctuates. Let US start drilling naaa....Truth is US can never go for crude export. Rather they are determined towards getting another source of power. The price of crude will go up sooner or later....mind you even at $10, Naija major FX will still be from crude....

Reporting live from Ogbomosho, Oyo State, Southwestern Nigeria.
In this part of the nation, we are enjoying what is called pure tranquility. In the north, Book Haram dey butcher them day and night. In the east, its about Biafra, and now its about the Niger-Delta militants.
If any man desires to live in peace and wanna close his eyes at night while sleeping, the southwest is the way.


IF YOU LOVE TROUBLE MAKING, KEEP OFF OOOO

jascon1:
Ok, i totally agree with you. But, if i get you right, your proposition is away from the recent happenings. Would u recommend a dialogue between FG n Tompolo/Ijaw ppl or just let Tompolo go and concentrate on looters from other states
Personally, I thought Buhari could have saved the best for last. The Niger Delta is a delicate zone and could have been the last to indict in this fight against corruption.
Let me hear further from you

My take is total connected to unfolding events, First of all be corrected in the insinuation that Tompolo looted, he does not have direct access to government funds and was not directly involved in the electioneering motion, neither is he sophisticated enough to serve as a laundering conduit for official with access to looted funds but a businessman and from what we gather from the media trials Tompolo is being chased over the matter of land which he sold to federal government at presumed exorbitant and unrealistic price and probably other huge contracts he may have handled but ask your self this pertinent questions first before you look at the said Tompolo outrageous patronage by government, is it out of place for government to patronize its citizens? or is it because it is tompolo and ijaw man that it appers too much fo one person? Remember how Dangote started, Abacha gave him the sole license to import SUGAR, SALT AND RICE for 170million Nigeria for more than 7 years (policy backed monopoly)nobody complained or is it ATIKU who is the sole concessioneer of the entire onne port complex which handles all oil related shipping logistics in Portharcout making billions monthly in revenue and giving government what they please or is it all the oil well in SS and south east dashed to hausa men who sell rights to operators for prices upwards of 1billion US dollars and still maintain their stake in the said oil wells and declare to government whatever they please? the list and examples are endless, In my thinking these are the real looters not this tompolo, All said if buhari needs to fight corruption do it from the root and obvious instances and not arrest and then begin to look for or build a case against perceived opponents. Now whether we like or not TOMPOLO is an Ijaw son of reckon and his following since his days of militancy has not diminished but rather has increased and become more sophisticated confronting him will generate the same storm type confronting Kanu has generated but more to this is that there will be sustained and punishing deprivation of nigeria from her only source of sustenance as it was in 2008 - 9 when daily oil export was a mere 180,000 bpd. FG must dialogue with Tompolo in a very civil tone otherwise what must be will be. I need not highlight the reality that a storm is already brewing the the polity.

jascon1:
yeah, I totally agree to that. So, personally what is your proposition to the FG concerning this development?

Wisdom.

abumeinben:


Bro I keep wondering why its difficult to track down this tompolo dude. The money u talking about, is it not in the bank? Be it local or foreign? Or does he move about with his billions?
The State has a full power to freeze his account.

Even Bible talk am say "money is a defence"

I hear they have frozen his bank accounts in the country.

But if he has (and I suspect he has) moved most of the monies to foreign accounts, then it is a lost cause for the FG. Unless they can prove that it is laundered money, which they cannot prove unless he has been taken to court and nailed for laundering charges, they cannot talk to the foreign banks/governments to release the money back. Kpata Kpata na another Abacha level go happen with the money trickling down in bits.

In any case, made men like Tompolo place their money in hidden vaults and finance havens around the world like Switzerland, Cayman Islands, Bahamas, British Virgin Island... where no one apart from the account owner can take cash from the account (not even the US).

Tompolo is one of the most powerful men in the ND region, so his people and associates will have to be heavily against him to give him up without a fight.

Remember that the SS is not yet convinced of the intentions of PMB (coupled by his court actions and statements), so it would be hard to get his people to give him up (I'm not talking about his village people that are only concerned about the money, I'm talking about the other commanders in MEND, other militant groups, and the made men in the region)...

It's a battle of individual interests. That is part of the quagmire.

-Lord

Proudlyngwa:


And you think war is about warships,
On whose lands will the war be fought,
His war ships will only make him easily identifiable like a sitting duck by fighter jets.
Highest our loss will be is swamp and land installations
Believe me tompolo can't even fight delta state not to talk of the federal republic of Nigeria.
What the government is cautious of is loss of innocent lives, not a nonentity like Tompolo

with "FULL" respect
Will you shut up if u don't know anything about SS warlord, mostly Tompolo

Get someone from NA to explain better to you before you continue with this argument

TeOwl:
This is the reason why I want oil prices to keep plummeting, after a their "oil" would no longer be so special... for starters, the 2016 budget does not depend on oil revenue.

My oga, abeg enlighten me.

I am asking out of total ignorance: what does it depend on?

Abi PMB don get Aladin's lamp?

tayebest:


The ediot will be caught, hold in detention, chop iron beans like that of kanu, el zakyzaky, metuh et all, And nothing will happen. I mean NOTHING


Continue vandalizing and spoiling your region because you have fuse with FG.

OLODO

this one is different guy let's just follow rule of law here dictatorship will not help

I meant to write NOT entirely on oil revenue... unlike previous years where the budget was funded 90% by oil revenue, i think the 2016 budget plan says less than 40% of our expenses would be funded by oil revenue... I would try to find out the exact figure from one of those credible news/media websites and edit this comment later...

EDIT: Check out this thread here - https://www.nairaland.com/2817862/breakdown-nigerias-2016-budget it shows the projected oil revenue and projected non-oil revenue.

BuddhaPalm:


My oga, abeg enlighten me.

I am asking out of total ignorance: what does it depend on?

Abi PMB don get Aladin's lamp?

TeOwl:
I meant to write entirely on oil revenue... unlike previous years where the budget was funded 90% by oil revenue, i think the 2016 budget plan says less than 40% of our expenses would be funded by oil revenue... I would try to find out the exact figure from one of those credible news/media websites and edit this comment later...

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face" ---- Mike Tyson

Plans are for, well, planning.

Historically, Nigeria wey no dey follow budget sef...

And does this same plan also contain projected revenue from crude at $38/barrell (which is now about 29 bucks)?

"To forgive Terrorists/militants is left for God but to send them to Him is my responsibility"- vdamir putin, Russian President

joyraincatering:
with "FULL" respect
Will you shut up if u don't know anything about SS warlord, mostly Tompolo

Get someone from NA to explain better to you before you continue with this argument

Thank God this is a faceless forum,
For your information I have worked for and with ex militants, live and eat with them .
You think the Nigeria military is just the Nigerian army.
You will know there is a difference between someone who is willing to die and there is a difference between criminals stealing from their people and ready to sacrifice them.

I maintain the restraining factor on the government side remains the innocent masses.

EDIT: Check out this thread here - https://www.nairaland.com/2817862/breakdown-nigerias-2016-budget it shows the projected oil revenue and projected non-oil revenue.

At least it is a step in reducing our unhealthy dependency on crude oil.

BuddhaPalm:


"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face" ---- Mike Tyson

Plans are for, well, planning.

Historically, Nigeria wey no dey follow budget sef...

And does this same plan also contain projected revenue from crude at $38/barrell (which is now about 29 bucks)?