Photos from the Hotel siege in Burkina-Faso

Amani Africa II

SAAF

Nigerian Police officers in Mali

Nigerian Air Force QRF wearing DICON Tactical Vest

Henry240:


Kindly desist from derailing this thread.






It has now emerged that as many as 5,000 Nigerian troops
were deployed to Angola and that they saw action in
various theatres across the then war-blighted country.
Writing in an article entitled “MOSCOW’S NEXT TARGET IN
AFRICA;Paying the Price for Angola“, Robert Moss clearly
indicates that ….
QUOTE:
“The Nigerians are said to be heavily involved in Angola.
Western intelligence sources report that Nigerian troops
were present at battalion strength when the MPLA and the
Cubans pushed south last year. According to UNITA
sources in Paris, the Nigerian strength has since been
reinforced.
UNITA sources have tapes of radio intercepts showing that
at least 5,000 Nigerian troops have been deployed in
Angola. They are operating as far south as Mocamedes,
and are also based in Lobito, Luanda and the eastern
diamond mining town of Henrique de Carvalho.

https://beegeagle./2010/12/12/nigerias-best-kept-military-secret-5000-troops-fought-in-angolas-first-civil-war/

Questioning a statement is not de-railment.

I was just curious because no legitimate sources cite your involvement.

And, if this is true that would men your Army was involved in the Angolan Civil War not the Angolan Border War.

africaken:
or we allow americans to station one of this near our border

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXBHNvpTcg

countries like the US have been in places like this, they. got knocked down suffered, paid the price took a step back ,swallowed pride and admitted they screwed up and learned some hard lessons ..... Thats why americans pay so much attention to air support, med-evac, satelite tracking, spy planes..

If we are wise enough, this is a good time to take good advice, learn our lesson and make sure it never happens again. Not to sound oportunistic but after this, no one is gonna question military spending, the gvt has all the justification for any militart hardware acquisition, if DoD say they want a dedicated satelite to better protect troops, parliament isn't gonna red tape them like they usually do.... Its time we took a step futher and apreciate that its never gonna be the same anymore, we cant play softpowe without gaining some military upperhand anymore, we shiuld take resposibility on our own now for our own people, the countries vision2030 din't qiute put specifics about military, the army better have its own targets of what it wants to be when we become newly industrilized country, 2030 is not that far

Burkinabe Commandos during yesterday's siege

A quick write up on the SAAF Lynx used on the Valour Class and Drakensburg

- It incorporates an all new integrated "glass" cockpit with a colour liquid crystal display system provides the crew with state-of-the-art technology increasing crew and mission effectiveness.
- Complemented with a Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) delivers low maintenance, enhanced performance and excellent economy with over 30% more power.
-The Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar is the aircraft's primary mission sensor and allows the crew to detect and track small to large surface contacts at long ranges.
-Complementing the radar is the Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite, which is used for passive target detection and identification.
- A Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera is used for passive target identification and recording.
- Target tracks and video images can be transmitted to the parent ship in real time using the Datalink unit supplied by Thales Advanced Engineering.

South African components include:

- a Sysdel electronic warfare suite,
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system,
- an Aerosud armoured flight crew seats
- as well as an infrared exhaust suppression system
- Denel is supplying an electro-optical sighting system (EOSS) and Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.
- Thales Advanced Engineering was contracted to supply a datalink as a well as a "video grabber", a dedicated bit of hardware that allows the transfer of video material taken by the EOSS to be transmitted to the mothership for further action.
- Reutech Defence Industries and Saab Grintek Communications Systems provided the HF and V/UHF radios.

cameroon has acquired Ratel 20 armoured infantry fighting vehicle with 20mm cannon,the initial delivery was on december 2015 to be used by the battalion Cameroon's elite Rapid Intervention Battalion (BIR). . cameroon i have come to realise is a country serious about the war on terror,from training,weapon procurement and commitment to fight terror

africaken:
cameroon has acquired Ratel 20 armoured infantry fighting vehicle with 20mm cannon,the initial delivery was on december 2015 to be used by the battalion Cameroon's elite Rapid Intervention Battalion (BIR). . cameroon i have come to realise is a country serious about the war on terror,from training,weapon procurement and commitment to fight terror

Should have gotten the iKlwa variant*

Anyway, good to see that they choose a vehical that was designed for Africans by Africans. Pity that the Rooikat is out of production... also a pity that the AMCIT turret and GI-30 does not fit on the Ratel.

Patchesagain:


Should have gotten the iKlwa variant*

Anyway, good to see that they choose a vehical that was designed for Africans by Africans. Pity that the Rooikat is out of production... also a pity that the AMCIT turret and GI-30 does not fit on the Ratel.

I remember sitting in parliament two years back during the Annual Defense report and a member of the procurement team proposed the procurement of 80 IKLWA APC's for the Namibian Marine Corps...wonder what happened to that
Must be the founding...

Patchesagain:


Should have gotten the iKlwa variant*

Anyway, good to see that they choose a vehical that was designed for Africans by Africans. Pity that the Rooikat is out of production... also a pity that the AMCIT turret and GI-30 does not fit on the Ratel.

and with its V shaped hull and reinforced better than those china made WZ551 APC's

Patchesagain:


Should have gotten the iKlwa variant*

Anyway, good to see that they choose a vehical that was designed for Africans by Africans. Pity that the Rooikat is out of production... also a pity that the AMCIT turret and GI-30 does not fit on the Ratel.

If the South-Africans agree to making the vehicles in Nigeria or a J.V with a local company, I'm all for that.

gottfried21:

I remember sitting in parliament two years back during the Annual Defense report and a member of the procurement team proposed the procurement of 80 IKLWA APC's for the Namibian Marine Corps...wonder what happened to that
Must be the founding...

wait until you see WZ551 APC being driven around by your soldiers then you will know why

Can anyone I.D. this APC or APV in C.A.R Bangui battle zone ?

http://news.yahoo.com/un-probes-deadly-shooting-rwandan-peacekeepers-c-africa-151059119.html
.

Patchesagain:


Should have gotten the iKlwa variant*

Anyway, good to see that they choose a vehical that was designed for Africans by Africans. Pity that the Rooikat is out of production... also a pity that the AMCIT turret and GI-30 does not fit on the Ratel.

Looks like we are selling of the rest of our Ratel, now that we are getting the new Badger!! I wouldn't mind if we sell/retire all our Ratel 20 , but we should definitely keep the Ratel 90, Ratel 81 , Ratel EAOS and Ratel ZT3 variants.

agaugust:
Can anyone I.D. this APC or APV in C.A.R Bangui battle zone ?

http://news.yahoo.com/un-probes-deadly-shooting-rwandan-peacekeepers-c-africa-151059119.html
.

I used to think they were some sort of enlarged variants of Proforce MkII's. However, i'm no longer so sure, seeing that Proforce exported their vehicles to an entirely different country.

Henry240:


I used to think they were some sort of enlarged variants of Proforce MkII's. However, i'm no longer so sure, seeing that Proforce exported their vehicles to an entirely different country.

Rwandan president visited Proforce factory. Rwandan police are now under UN in Bangui. Just trying to connect the dots...

agaugust:


Rwandan president visited Proforce factory. Rwandan police are now under UN in Bangui. Just trying to connect the dots...

Sure....... Exactly My thoughts when i first saw the vehicle. However, i haven't yet seen an enlarged variant, the units sold to Lagos and Oyo states are both the sizes we are well aware of.

Henry240:


If the South-Africans agree to making the vehicles in Nigeria or a J.V with a local company, I'm all for that.

Upgrade.

with the introduction of the Badger ICV more Ratels will sold, meaning the company can offer them upgraded to the Iklwa standard will local input of the buyer.

It's all about negotiations. I don't remember SA refusing to sell equipment to friendly countries.

africaken:
and with its V shaped hull and reinforced better than those china made WZ551 APC's

The WZ551 gets the job done at a lower price though.

Henry240:


I used to think they were some sort of enlarged variants of Proforce MkII's. However, i'm no longer so sure, seeing that Proforce exported their vehicles to an entirely different country.

they are not proforce made. The Chadian army use a similar APC but this time on desert pattern.

overhypedsteve:
they are not proforce made. The Chadian army use a similar APC but this time on desert pattern.

Ok, thanks.

MikeCZAR:
Upgrade.

with the introduction of the Badger ICV more Ratels will sold, meaning the company can offer them upgraded to the Iklwa standard will local input of the buyer.

It's all about negotiations. I don't remember SA refusing to sell equipment to friendly countries.

I made that comment , in-terms of much broader cooperation, and not the Ikwla per say.

Henry240:


I made that comment , in-terms of much broader cooperation, and not the Ikwla per say.

Wouldn't that be futile as the current Nigerian procurement system means equipment comes in dribs and drabs and sourced from many companies?

A contract could be signed for 50 vehicles with technology transfer design, development etc will take place in SA with a small numbers produced here. But when production is moved to Nigeria is the company in Nigeria likely to receive a follow on order? unlikely.

I am in support of skills transfer in the fields of maintanance, repair etc

Evening Gents
(This is off topic yet somewhat relevant I guess)
I highly recommend you guys see "Beasts of no Nation" either at the cinemas,Netflix or Putlocker...It's epic*Praise emoji*
Featuring a rebel group(Led by Idris Elba)
Government forces
And Nigerian/Ghanian ECOMOG forces

gottfried21:
Evening Gents
(This is off topic yet somewhat relevant I guess)
I highly recommend you guys see "Beats of no Nation" either at the cinemas,Netflix or Putlocker...It's epic*Praise emoji*
Featuring a rebel group(Led by Idris Elba)
Government forces
And Nigerian/Ghanian ECOMOG forces

Going to watch it!! NOW!!

MikeCZAR:
Wouldn't that be futile as the current Nigerian procurement system means equipment comes in dribs and drabs and sourced from many companies?

A contract could be signed for 50 vehicles with technology transfer design, development etc will take place in SA with a small numbers produced here. But when production is moved to Nigeria is the company in Nigeria likely to receive a follow on order? unlikely.

I am in support of skills transfer in the fields of maintanance, repair etc

Issues relating to erratic procuremments are about to be fixed. A new vehicle assemble line is about to be installed at DICON. Proforce has already expanded to Port-Harcourt and Abuja, Mekahog's plant is already servicing a police force order.


It can only move forward from this point. These issues would be sorted out with the military's industrial complex plan.

A local/partner company that can deliver would see an order for at-least 200 vehicles.

gottfried21:
Evening Gents
(This is off topic yet somewhat relevant I guess)
I highly recommend you guys see "Beats of no Nation" either at the cinemas,Netflix or Putlocker...It's epic*Praise emoji*
Featuring a rebel group(Led by Idris Elba)
Government forces
And Nigerian/Ghanian ECOMOG forces

lol - "beats of no nation".... a movie about a renegade African Warlord/DJ... I have a vision of the rebels ambushing a government patrol while a rebel leader drops some sick beats in the background

I have seen it, it was fantastic

Patchesagain:


lol - "beats of no nation".... a movie about a renegade African Warlord/DJ

I have seen it, it was fantastic

Took me a while to see what you found amusing I got it now
English never loved us

jln115:

Looks like we are selling of the rest of our Ratel, now that we are getting the new Badger!! I wouldn't mind if we sell/retire all our Ratel 20 , but we should definitely keep the Ratel 90, Ratel 81 , Ratel EAOS and Ratel ZT3 variants.

I am just postulating here... so this is not the word of god.

The Army has only made an order fo 236 (i know there will prob be follow on orders but anyway) and we have over 1000 Ratels.

What this means is that the 236 Ratels that are made redundant will most likely be the most worn down and knackered ones... probably ones from the first production run.

So, Ratels made available for export will only be able to be sold after extensive refurb... and judging by what LMT did for the military museum that is going to cost upwards of $20 000.