Barnabaseloka:

What you did to defend yourself was to lay hold on this post. Did I not write series of posts before I wrote this? Was it not when I tried to make you see where you inferred me wrongly that made me post this? Did I write this before or after the issue of circumcision that you questioned me about?

Afta

On 8th of december is d feast of Immaculate conception. As a catholic u are expected 2 go 2 church 4 mass dt day

Why Catholic's pray through Mary? Because they can't find Jesus.

brocab:
Why Catholic's pray through Mary? Because they can't find Jesus.

Says who?

The Catholic's all agreed, it was Mary who led them to Christ?
1 Corinthians 1:9 "God is faithful, who had called you into fellowship with His Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
Mary has not got this authority, all the authority was given to Jesus by God, It's God who calls us to Jesus.
Mary died with the apostles back then, we are the new disciples spreading the word of God further into our time flame, while our youth will take it even further to the next generation.

Jusmudi:

Says who?

Why don't Catholic's pray straight to God?
Matthew 6:6 "But when you pray go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen, Then your Father who see's what is done in secret, will reward you.
Why do Catholic's pray to the dead? Mary can't reward you-only God can.
Give your life's totally over the Christ give Him all the glory he's Blessed with.
Say this prayer.
Lord I ask you to come into my heart-forgive me Lord from all my sins, I ask you to deliver me from the evil one of this world-give me the light that shines from you, into me, that I now become a follower of Christ, I believe God had raised you from the dead-I believe Lord, you are my savour, my Lord and my king. I repent for the crimes I have committed against my fellow brothers and sisters. I Thank God the Father has given me this opportunity to have this choice to believe. I believe' Jesus Christ is Lord. Amen
Jesus is the only way into heaven-He said to Nicodemus one must be Born again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.
He was giving Nicodemus a Choice.
Theirs no-other way, Mary can't save you-but once you are their, she can meet you, with all the saints, Jesus, your families, friends, they are all waiting for us to come.
The way and the truth and the life, is through Jesus.

Mcowubaba:
Exempt for the hail mary prayer.....
'Holy Mary Pray for Us sinners now nd @ the hour of our Death'
Even the memorare-
'Remember O Most Blessed Virgin Mary, that is a thing unheard of, that anyone who impored your help was left forsaken, here i come, before thee I stand, a sinful nd sorrowful sinner, despite not my poor words O mother of the world incarnate'
All this things na Prayer na...
Jesus Christ Clearly said ' I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMMET TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME' =This is the summary of this discussion QED!!

Nd ps..u don't need any mediator/ intersesor to connect to JESUS CHRIST.... But u need JESUS CHRIST to connect to the FATHER...
Tanks

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Religion and doctrines of men won't do you any good if you are not a true worshipper of the living God, whether you are an Anglican, Catholic or Pentecostal, because on that judgement day, your denomination will become as useless as mercy. All your works will be passed through fire both Catholic works, Anglican works, Pentecostal works, Presbyterian works etc and if they are not born out of purity of heart and love for God, it will profit you nothing.

brocab:
Why Catholic's pray through Mary? Because they can't find Jesus.

Tel me d relationship b/w u nd ur mum nd dt of ur u nd ur dad

brocab:
The Catholic's all agreed, it was Mary who led them to Christ?
1 Corinthians 1:9 "God is faithful, who had called you into fellowship with His Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
Mary has not got this authority, all the authority was given to Jesus by God, It's God who calls us to Jesus.
Mary died with the apostles back then, we are the new disciples spreading the word of God further into our time flame, while our youth will take it even further to the next generation.

Bt Jesus gaav his disciplines his word dt dey ll sit 2 judge d 12 tribe

bxcode:
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Religion and doctrines of men won't do you any good if you are not a true worshipper of the living God, whether you are an Anglican, Catholic or Pentecostal, because on that judgement day, your denomination will become as useless as mercy. All your works will be passed through fire both Catholic works, Anglican works, Pentecostal works, Presbyterian works etc and if they are not born out of purity of heart and love for God, it will profit you nothing.

Use a beta bible because Jesus is nt rude 2 say woman

What?

Jusmudi:

Bt Jesus gaav his disciplines his word dt dey ll sit 2 judge d 12 tribe

When Mary was alive I am sure everyone had a great relationship, but after she had died, they had none.

Jusmudi:

Tel me d relationship b/w u nd ur mum nd dt of ur u nd ur dad

brocab:
When Mary was alive I am sure everyone had a great relationship, but after she had died, they had none.

Do u bliv in Angels?

Mary was never called to be an angel, matter of fact she was the mother of Jesus a human, like you and I.

Jusmudi:

Do u bliv in Angels?

brocab:
Mary was never called to be an angel, matter of fact she was the mother of Jesus a human, like you and I.

Just answer me, do u bliv in Angels

Of course

Jusmudi:

Just answer me, do u bliv in Angels

brocab:
Of course

Do u bliv Angels can pray 4 people?

The bible doesn't say the angels pray for us, and the reason is because, One far greater than the angels already is praying for us, the Lord Jesus Christ.
He alone is the divine Son of God, who sits in heaven interceding for us, {Hebrews 7:25} is your faith and trust in Him, both for today and eternity?
Are you Catholic-or are you a JW? If you are a Jehovah Witness this is what Rothschild had told the people about angels. Watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JnngqQYvc

Jusmudi:

Do u bliv Angels can pray 4 people?

brocab:
The bible doesn't say the angels pray for us, and the reason is because, One far greater than the angels already is praying for us, the Lord Jesus Christ.
He alone is the divine Son of God, who sits in heaven interceding for us, {Hebrews 7:25} is your faith and trust in Him, both for today and eternity?
Are you Catholic-or are you a JW? If you are a Jehovah Witness this is what Rothschild had told the people about angels. Watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JnngqQYvc

Sorry 2 divert, bt hv u heard abt Angel Raphael? If yes, were in bible did u com across dt name Angel Raphael

Yes one the angels with Michael, Catholic's believe Raphael was the angel stirring the water in John's gospel.
The book of Tobit is only found in a Catholic bible. But not in the protestant bibles.
The Queen of heaven-Mother of God is found in the Catholic bible's too. But not in the protestants.
We don't pray to angels, nor to Mary.
Matthew 6:6. Makes it quite clear who we pray too, and who we worship.
I gather you are Catholic.

Jusmudi:

Sorry 2 divert, bt hv u heard abt Angel Raphael? If yes, were in bible did u com across dt name Angel Raphael

brocab:
Yes one the angels with Michael, Catholic's believe Raphael was the angel stirring the water in John's gospel.
The book of Tobit is only found in a Catholic bible. But not in the protestant bibles.
The Queen of heaven-Mother of God is found in the Catholic bible's too. But not in the protestants.
We don't pray to angels, nor to Mary.
Matthew 6:6. Makes it quite clear who we pray too, and who we worship.
I gather you are Catholic.

So 2 ask do u bliv in Angel Raphael ?

I believe Raphael maybe one of the angels.
Daniel 10:13, 10:21 12:1, talks the archangel Michael, Jude 9, and Revelation 12:7.
Gabriel is mentioned in Daniel 8:16, Luke 1:19 Luke 1:26-38.
And of course Lucifer the fallen angel.
But no Raphael? He is only found in the Tobit, But you need to show me in scriptures where the angel Raphael is written?
If Raphael isn't written in Scriptures, then I can say no-I don't believe in Him.

Jusmudi:

So 2 ask do u bliv in Angel Raphael ?

brocab:
I believe Raphael maybe one of the angels.
Daniel 10:13, 10:21 12:1, talks the archangel Michael, Jude 9, and Revelation 12:7.
Gabriel is mentioned in Daniel 8:16, Luke 1:19 Luke 1:26-38.
And of course Lucifer the fallen angel.
But no Raphael? He is only found in the Tobit, But you need to show me in scriptures where the angel Raphael is written?
If Raphael isn't written in Scriptures, then I can say no-I don't believe in Him.

U want 2 use logic 2 get me, bt am asking just a question, do u bliv in Angel Raphael

Get to the point. Stop wasting my time.

Jusmudi:

U want 2 use logic 2 get me, bt am asking just a question, do u bliv in Angel Raphael

brocab:
Get to the point. Stop wasting my time.

Am sorry 4 wasting ur tim, bt just answer dis question do u bliv in Angel Raphael?

Did you watch the video?

Jusmudi:

Am sorry 4 wasting ur tim, bt just answer dis question do u bliv in Angel Raphael?

As I have quoted in my last page, show me in the bible where Raphael is written.
If you can't show me, then why are you asking me this question?

Jusmudi:

Am sorry 4 wasting ur tim, bt just answer dis question do u bliv in Angel Raphael?

Would just like to say here that the bible clearly refers to angels as ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation Hebrews 1:14

Jusmudi:

Do u bliv Angels can pray 4 people?

brocab:
Did you watch the video?

I don watch video

brocab:
As I have quoted in my last page, show me in the bible where Raphael is written.
If you can't show me, then why are you asking me this question?

because if Raphael is nt found in ur bible bt only catholic bible yer u bliv, u ll also agree wit me what hapd 2 Moses wen e interceded 4 d israelites, y can't mary interced

madammamus:
Would just like to say here that the bible clearly refers to angels as ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation Hebrews 1:14

Tank u 4 telling me dt u must also agree wit me dt according 2 u, Angel are meant 2 serve, den wat of ur pastor wu always intercede 4 his members un dia behalf. I u telling u hv nt called ur pastor 2 assist u in prayers nd e ll receive wat u demanded nd lera com nd give testimony, if ur pastor can pray 4 u y nt d mother of Jesus wu interceded @ d wedding feast of cana. She showed us dt she is 2ruly a woman dt ll never abandon u in tim of need or difficulty

Did I say angels intercede? How does my post relate to your intercession talk? You know what? When it comes this Mary issue, I don't discuss it online because people do not like to let go even when it's true...its a revelation/insight thing not an argument thing...just like the bible isn't what you understand with a carnal mind but a mind that submits to the holy spirit for understanding, counselling, and insight.

Shalom...am out of here

Jusmudi:

Tank u 4 telling me dt u must also agree wit me dt according 2 u, Angel are meant 2 serve, den wat of ur pastor wu always intercede 4 his members un dia behalf. I u telling u hv nt called ur pastor 2 assist u in prayers nd e ll receive wat u demanded nd lera com nd give testimony, if ur pastor can pray 4 u y nt d mother of Jesus wu interceded @ d wedding feast of cana. She showed us dt she is 2ruly a woman dt ll never abandon u in tim of need or difficulty