Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,193,894 members, 7,952,621 topics. Date: Wednesday, 18 September 2024 at 07:31 PM

Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (693) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 (2448772 Views)

R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld / Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) / Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (690) (691) (692) (693) (694) (695) (696) ... (3651) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 11:11pm On Jan 17, 2016
Yes, blame Ramsey. When Norwich played Santi off the park before he got himself injured, or his sh*t performance against west Brom or when Dele Alli bossed him. Where were you then? Smh. Can't even believe some people will blame Ramsey for this draw. Cazorla fans. This same Cazorla was present against Newcastle at Emirates and we couldn't do shit because özil wasn't there, but PLS let's blame Ramsey. Put Cazorla beside Flamini in midfield and let's see what's going to happen.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Pataki: 11:26pm On Jan 17, 2016
If I am right, I think we acquired more points and pushed ourselves to the top of the league after the injury to Coq, Cazorla and Sanchez.

All of you guys looking for a scapegoat should zip it. That said, we really missed Coq, Cazorla, Ozil and Sanchez today. A point is still a point. Top of the table still.

Next is that useless club called Chelsea. Hopefully Ozil and Sanchez should be back in the mix. I was hoping to see El Neny playing today. sad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:21am On Jan 18, 2016
Keky:
Yes, blame Ramsey. When Norwich played Santi off the park before he got himself injured, or his sh*t performance against west Brom or when Dele Alli bossed him. Where were you then? Smh. Can't even believe some people will blame Ramsey for this draw. Cazorla fans. This same Cazorla was present against Newcastle at Emirates and we couldn't do shit because özil wasn't there, but PLS let's blame Ramsey. Put Cazorla beside Flamini in midfield and let's see what's going to happen.
Oga nobody was blaming Ramsey for the draw. The point is that he is well suited as a more forward player.

If Ramsey gives you a 3star performance from midfield which is quite decent, expect a 4.5star from the flanks.

So why have him in the middle when someone can offer you the same or better.

My first team when all are ok

Cech;
Bellerin, Per, Koschielny, Monreal;
Coquelin, Cazorla;
Ramsey, Ozil, Sachez;
Giroud.

2 Likes

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:28am On Jan 18, 2016
Keky:
Honestly I'm happy with this point. Still top of the league. Now bring on the rent boys. TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!!!!!
The point is good. If we had gone for a win with this depleted side, we could have ended up losing.

Let us try to maintain top spot till March, we have guys who haven't played this season, fresh legs to help us finish the race - Welbeck, Wilshere, Rosicsky, plus the likes of Coquelin, Sanchez and Cazorla having had a much needed rest.

We will win the league.

#COYGs
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:43am On Jan 18, 2016
Spy360:

Oga nobody was blaming Ramsey for the draw. The point is that he is well suited as a more forward player.

If Ramsey gives you a 3star performance from midfield which is quite decent, expect a 4.5star from the flanks.

So why have him in the middle when someone can offer you the same or better.

My first team when all are ok

Cech;
Bellerin, Per, Koschielny, Monreal;
Coquelin, Cazorla;
Ramsey, Ozil, Sachez;
Giroud.

That's the problem I think Keky has, he is construing opinions.

I have never blamed Ramsey or any player for any defeat, infact I have always maintained blaming a single player for defeats is tantamount to "Akara analysis" (cheap analysis).

If he objectively reads your post which I believe hits the nail about this issue he should realize that..

Ramsey is best when he plays from the wing and motions into the middle to support and make runs, as it becomes difficult for opponents to track him..he is a free spirited player and I value his talent.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edoyad(m): 3:08am On Jan 18, 2016
This is a rough patch for us, gratefully we are top of the league. If I look at us doing it without all the guys you all have mentioned, Oezil, Santi, Coq and Alexis, it gladdens my heart. Nobody even misses Welbeck or Wilshere, which is evidence of our squad.
That being said, I would have been glad if Giroud had buried that sitter.

NB: Mancity, United and Leicester didn't get 3 points at Stoke too, in fact only Leicester did as good as we did.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:00am On Jan 18, 2016
Roland17:


That's the problem I think Keky has, he is construing opinions.

I have never blamed Ramsey or any player for any defeat, infact I have always maintained blaming a single player for defeats is tantamount to "Akara analysis" (cheap analysis).

If he objectively reads your post which I believe hits the nail about this issue he should realize that..

Ramsey is best when he plays from the wing and motions into the middle to support and make runs, as it becomes difficult for opponents to track him..he is a free spirited player and I value his talent.
Spot on.

If Elneny can live up to expectation, it will free up Ramsey for a more attacking role. As Sanchez returns, he and Campbell will then share the responsibility of the RW. Our midfield should be

Flamini, Elneny;
Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez;

Campbell becomes a super sub while Walcott continues to support Giroud at CF.

Talking about Walcott, he looks like shit on the LW.

Campbell has been great so far. His improvement really covered our lack of key players.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:05am On Jan 18, 2016
edoyad:
This is a rough patch for us, gratefully we are top of the league. If I look at us doing it without all the guys you all have mentioned, Oezil, Santi, Coq and Alexis, it gladdens my heart. Nobody even misses Welbeck or Wilshere, which is evidence of our squad.
That being said, I would have been glad if Giroud had buried that sitter.

NB: Mancity, United and Leicester didn't get 3 points at Stoke too, in fact only Leicester did as good as we did.
If Giroud had scored that goal, I would have compared him to Aguero (people will then begin to shout cheesy).

Butland was quick off his marks and spread himself so well, the angle was tight, it takes an exceptionally good striker with great calm to finish that one.

Ozil scored a similar against Bournemouth.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edoyad(m): 7:32am On Jan 18, 2016
Spy360:

If Giroud had scored that goal, I would have compared him to Aguero (people will then begin to shout cheesy).

Butland was quick off his marks and spread himself so well, the angle was tight, it takes an exceptionally good striker with great calm to finish that one.

Ozil scored a similar against Bournemouth.

If Giroud can't score goals like that for us then what's the point? It's instances like that you get league winning points.
Fingers crossed sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 7:58am On Jan 18, 2016
Roland17:


That's the problem I think Keky has, he is construing opinions.

I have never blamed Ramsey or any player for any defeat, infact I have always maintained blaming a single player for defeats is tantamount to "Akara analysis" (cheap analysis).

If he objectively reads your post which I believe hits the nail about this issue he should realize that..

Ramsey is best when he plays from the wing and motions into the middle to support and make runs, as it becomes difficult for opponents to track him..he is a free spirited player and I value his talent.
Like he did in 2013/2014 when he was our best player. I'm sure you know more than ex footballers and pundits that rate him as one of the best cms in the league. If you don't want him in CM, go and remove Him.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 8:01am On Jan 18, 2016
Dude gave us his best season from the middle. Even his managers both club and in national level believes he is a box to box midfielder. But our nairaland pundits believe he is best suited on the wings, looool. These pundits ehn looool.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 8:20am On Jan 18, 2016
Spy360:

Oga nobody was blaming Ramsey for the draw. The point is that he is well suited as a more forward player.

If Ramsey gives you a 3star performance from midfield which is quite decent, expect a 4.5star from the flanks.

So why have him in the middle when someone can offer you the same or better.

My first team when all are ok

Cech;
Bellerin, Per, Koschielny, Monreal;
Coquelin, Cazorla;
Ramsey, Ozil, Sachez;
Giroud.
I've already explained why Ramsey plays on the wings. He is there to help Cazorla and Coquelin, without Him there they can't do sh*t. We saw that when he was out for weeks and your Cazorla was clueless. Ramsey is not a winger but a box to box midfielder, get him the right DM not the Flamini type. Have you thought about how Cazorla would perform with Flamini with Him in midfield? It will be a disaster. That tells you the quality of Aaron Ramsey. SHALOM.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:15am On Jan 18, 2016
Ramsey on the wing is a no no for me its just like ozil on the wing.
He neither scores,assist nor create chances from the flanks, no pace to run at defenders, and often moves to the middle, which makes us pass,posses and no penetration.

I maintain that Rosciky,Ramsey and wishere are the best box to box we have, as they are energetic, runs to and fro the picth, look at Ramsey tackle that lead to the goal at Aston villa, he started the tackke,attack and goal and that is good for the Epl

See the same with rosciky against danny rose of spurs and he went ahead to score, good again for English football..

Ozil and carzola has the brains and technique and the offesnsive mildfield position is their besr position, they assist and score(carzola) alot from the position,

but wenger with his problem will want to accomodate them all by shifting ozil to wing for wilshere at 10,Ramsey to wing for carzola in the middle..

Ramsey just needs to be talked to for some of his selfish and indivudual glory style of football , not covering in time.

and/or he be punished on the bench if he persists.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Pataki: 2:11pm On Jan 18, 2016
I don't know what is Mathieu Debuchy's problem is. You don't mouth off your club in such a pathetic disgusting way.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:42pm On Jan 18, 2016
edi287:
For the people asking why Santi starts over Ramsey, I hope today answers your question. Ramsey for all his hustle and running is simply not as creative as Santi. All he and Ox did was run all day without end product. Joel Campbell was the only one making creative and penetrating passes. Can't wait for Ozil and Alexis to come back for the chelsea game.
wa gbayiiiii
Just tell dem
Ramsey is good but not santi class

2 Likes

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by IZUKWU(m): 3:56pm On Jan 18, 2016
Both coquelin, carzola and ramsey are all good but if all are fit. They three will play but ramsey will play from the wing.
Why?
Because they are better than him in the middle but we need ramseys energy and we will sacrify our natural wingers to play him there and allow bellerin to operate as a winger and ramsey cover up for him and also operate as an extra man in the middle of the park popping up every where. Na wenger tactical tweaking.

1 Like

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:09pm On Jan 18, 2016
IZUKWU:
Both coquelin, carzola and ramsey are all good but if all are fit. They three will play but ramsey will play from the wing.
SIMPLE
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 8:04pm On Jan 18, 2016
Need Alexis and Özil back, need to start ElNeny. Walcott/Chamberlain/Flamini bench and Arteta in a suit!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudlysports: 10:08pm On Jan 18, 2016
This one everyone is shouting Elneny, you guys should give him a break abeg. Have we seen him play? Do we know if he'll fit into the English game? Even top players take time to settle.

Barring any massive injury issues, Elneny should still remain on the bench (maybe occasional 2nd half appearances and FA Cup games). It will be a big risk to throw him into any big game now and every game from now till end of the season is a big game.

We should hope to see more of him next season.

2 Likes

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by hariorh: 10:13pm On Jan 18, 2016
proudlysports:
This one everyone is shouting Elneny, you guys should give him a break abeg. Have we seen him play? Do we know if he'll fit into the English game? Even top players take time to settle.

Barring any massive injury issues, Elneny should still remain on the bench (maybe occasional 2nd half appearances and FA Cup games). It will be a big risk to throw him into any big game now and every game from now till end of the season is a big game.

We should hope to see more of him next season.

Couldn't agree more. Its not like we are lacking heavily in midfield. Ninja needs time to learn more about our game instead of just throwing him into the mix in blind gamble.

Look at Gabriel for instance... Slow Mertesacker still benches him on a daily simply because he's yet to fully understand our game.

A few subs and FA cup starts won't be a bad idea IMO
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 10:55pm On Jan 18, 2016
proudlysports:
This one everyone is shouting Elneny, you guys should give him a break abeg. Have we seen him play? Do we know if he'll fit into the English game? Even top players take time to settle.

Barring any massive injury issues, Elneny should still remain on the bench (maybe occasional 2nd half appearances and FA Cup games). It will be a big risk to throw him into any big game now and every game from now till end of the season is a big game.

We should hope to see more of him next season.
Just because you've not seen Him play doesn't mean others haven't. He is better than what we have in the middle of the park now. He is quality.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 11:17pm On Jan 18, 2016
Another Monreal appreciation post. What a man. Best LB in Epl right now.

1 Like

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:38am On Jan 19, 2016
Keky:
Need Alexis and Özil back, need to start ElNeny. Walcott/Chamberlain/Flamini bench and Arteta in a suit!!
Hahaha...

He should get his badges...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by dmcdad: 7:10am On Jan 19, 2016
A group of 'Gunners' fans demonstrated their devotion to Özil with this song that goes: "I just don't think you understand. He's Arsene Wenger's man. He's better than Zidane".

Source: Marca.


One can only imagine Arsenal fans' delusion.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 9:46am On Jan 19, 2016
Keky:
Just because you've not seen Him play doesn't mean others haven't. He is better than what we have in the middle of the park now. He is quality.
OK....I'm sure u av seen him in ur dreams playing epl
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudlysports: 12:47pm On Jan 19, 2016
Keky:
Just because you've not seen Him play doesn't mean others haven't. He is better than what we have in the middle of the park now. He is quality.
Ok. Let's throw him into the mix then. It's the same fans that will come out and criticize him and then blame Wenger for buying him when he has his first bad game.

The same Ramsey and others you guys are hitting with a cane today was undroppable last season.

I'm not saying Elneny isn't good, all I'm saying is that we fans should be patient with Wenger if he doesn't play him. Swiss league is very different from the EPL. The position he plays has very little margin for error. You can lose the ball as a striker and still hope your midfield or defence will win it back but lose it as a DM and the opposition may have only the goalkeeper to beat.
Even Ozil needed a whole season to blend in. Throwing him into the mix at Stoke (as some suggested) or against Chelsea may not be a good idea (unless ofcourse we have no choice). Let's wait till we play FA Cup, give him the opportunity to blend into the team and league.

2 Likes

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:42pm On Jan 19, 2016
dmcdad:
A group of 'Gunners' fans demonstrated their devotion to Özil with this song that goes: "I just don't think you understand. He's Arsene Wenger's man. He's better than Zidane".

Source: Marca.


One can only imagine Arsenal fans' delusion.
Sharrap!

Did Zidane give as much assist as Ozil? He is the most creative player ever.

Love it or loath it.

1 Like

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by hariorh: 3:51pm On Jan 19, 2016
Look at Monreal. He had to go past 2 seasons before blending in with the boys.


Now a few comical peeps can gladly say, he's the best LB in the EPL while ignoring how it all began angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:50pm On Jan 19, 2016
Some of our fans are too protective, rest ozil, give sanchez break, let Enny start next year grin
..This attitude only make us look like buch of kid/weaklings that do want to struggle

you ill even think Enny just came from his mums pampers and just crawling grin

HE IS an international,capped in club football and fit to play

He may be an instanct player, not all players require months to settle, He is said to be physical, energetic with good work rate

Throw him in,if he is ready and gunning to play he can not do worse than flanini/Arterta
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 6:42pm On Jan 19, 2016
Fkhalifa:
Some of our fans are too protective, rest ozil, give sanchez break, let Enny start next year grin
..This attitude only make us look like buch of kid/weaklings that do want to struggle

you ill even think Enny just came from his mums pampers and just crawling grin

HE IS an international,capped in club football and fit to play

He may be an instanct player, not all players require months to settle, He is said to be physical, energetic with good work rate

Throw him in,if he is ready and gunning to play he can not do worse than flanini/Arterta
Thank you ooo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Pataki: 9:44pm On Jan 19, 2016
You either have it or you don't have it as a player. All these silly excuses some of you Arsenal fans are spewing is ridiculous.

A good example is Alexis Sanchez. He played a full season for Barcelona, went straight to the World Cup, joined Arsenal, played a fantastic season for us (without pre-summer training), thereafter went for Copa America, playing all the way into the final, returned to Arsenal and immediately played in our first match this season against West Ham.

No excuses were made that Sanchez needs time to blend in with the team.

As for me, this new Arsenal should be men who are ready to play and work their socks off for this team not men we are pampering their legs and making up excuses for.

Get Elneny cracking into this team asap - and get me singing: Watch me Whip, Watch me Neny! grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by dmcdad: 10:06pm On Jan 19, 2016
Spy360:

Sharrap!

Did Zidane give as much assist as Ozil? He is the most creative player ever.

Love it or loath it.
Cc: raumdeuter, airmark, Coded01, ibime, Nihilist... cheesy

Shey una dey see these boiz...?

(1) (2) (3) ... (690) (691) (692) (693) (694) (695) (696) ... (3651) (Reply)

Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" / Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion / Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 70
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.