agaugust:


Your South African army has 30 battalions of HIV sick soldiers ! 30 SANDF battalions that cannot fight war !

We will just make them tired running around the battlefield and your army will faint into coma, HIV infected army of South Africa, your troops are dead on arrival with about 20,000 HIV sick and weak tired half lifeless soldiers, so how many do you have left?

LOL....30 battalions half dead on arrival, HIV slaughtered.

"First six months of the project 1,089 SANDF soldiers volunteered to be tested, of whom 947 were found to be HIV-positive"

http://www.hst.org.za/news/sandf-unveils-shock-aids-data




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How many Nigerian soldiers have been tested?

Who cares, HIV sick soldiers get ARV's in South Africa - which means they live healthy lives. They are also removed from combat units.

agaugust:


Your South African army has 30 battalions of HIV sick soldiers ! 30 SANDF battalions that cannot fight war !

We will just make them tired running around the battlefield and your army will faint into coma, HIV infected army of South Africa, your troops are dead on arrival with about 20,000 HIV sick and weak tired half lifeless soldiers, so how many do you have left?

LOL....30 battalions half dead on arrival, HIV slaughtered.

"First six months of the project 1,089 SANDF soldiers volunteered to be tested, of whom 947 were found to be HIV-positive"

http://www.hst.org.za/news/sandf-unveils-shock-aids-data




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Patchesagain:


How many Nigerian soldiers have been tested?

Who cares, HIV sick soldiers get ARV's in South Africa - which means they live healthy lives. They are also removed from combat units.

jln115:


1. Black nation?? Why's it always black and white with you fvckers?? My family from my mother and fathers side have been living in South Africa for almost 400 years, I've always considered my self African rather than European.

But honestly i shouldn't be surprised people like you and @Agaugust et al always try to rubbish South Africa's achievements by claiming it was the Afrikaners/Whites did this or that and the reason Nigeria is behind is because it never had help from white people.....All this proves is your major inferiority complex you have towards Whites, luckily here in SA nobody feels that way!!

Fact is it doesn't matter if something was built by an Afrikaner,Zulu,Xhosa,Tswana ect ect ect we are all South African!!

2. Did i say we drove out the Nazi's?? Did i say it was ww2?.....No i didn't, i was talking about our WW1 campaign in SWA(Namibia).

3. Are our Frigates old? Are or Subs old? Are our Light attack aircraft old? Are our Multi Role Fighters old? Are our Helicopter Gunships old?

Also our Ratel, Mamba and Casspir were so far ahead of their time that we are still exporting them to the US,UK,Saudi Arabia,Nigeria,Egypt,Jordan,Sweden ect ect

And lastly Nigeria stand no chance against SA in conventional warfare!!

So you are indirectly telling us that more than half of SADF are not useful in combat Role.

That is sad.

South Africa will fight Nigeria with less than 20000 soldiers, 3,000 sailors and maybe another 3000 air men right?

Then you only have 3 submarines, 4 frigates and 3 OPVs. How many of these will be in your country and how many will you bring to Nigeria?
How will you even move your troops to Nigeria in the first place? Even your Gripens will need to stop in at least 3 countries before you get here.

Dummy, Nigeria should be the one talking of invading South Africa but we still don't claim such.

iblawi:




So you are indirectly telling us that more than half of SADF are not useful in combat Role.

That is sad.

South Africa will fight Nigeria with less than 20000 soldiers, 3,000 sailors and maybe another 3000 air men right?

Then you only have 3 submarines, 4 frigates and 3 OPVs. How many of these will be in your country and how many will you bring to Nigeria?
How will you even move your troops to Nigeria in the first place? Even your Gripens will need to stop in at least 3 countries before you get here.

Dummy, Nigeria should be the one talking of invading South Africa but we still don't claim such.

A study undertaken by his arm of service, the SA Military Health Service (SAMHS) , into the prevalence of HIV and Aids among soldiers, shows statistics gathered by ISN Security Watch and others to be far off the mark.

“The study included Regular Force and Military Skills Development members. It showed an HIV prevalence rate of 8,5% compared to the national prevalence rate of around 19%,” Ramlakan said.

The figure comes from the SANDF September 2011 health status report and was reconfirmed in an HIV prevalence study done last August.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-5767/

SANDF was using the MSDS programe to secretly screen for HIV and prevent HIV+ people from joining, and I didnt say that HIV+ people cannot deploy, they simply cannot deploy in combat-arms.

patches689:


A study undertaken by his arm of service, the SA Military Health Service (SAMHS) , into the prevalence of HIV and Aids among soldiers, shows statistics gathered by ISN Security Watch and others to be far off the mark.

“The study included Regular Force and Military Skills Development members. It showed an HIV prevalence rate of 8,5% compared to the national prevalence rate of around 19%,” Ramlakan said.

The figure comes from the SANDF September 2011 health status report and was reconfirmed in an HIV prevalence study done last August.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-5767/

SANDF was using the MSDS programe to secretly screen for HIV and prevent HIV+ people from joining, and I didnt say that HIV+ people cannot deploy, they simply cannot deploy in combat-arms.

Ok

iblawi:




So you are indirectly telling us that more than half of SADF are not useful in combat Role.

That is sad.

South Africa will fight Nigeria with less than 20000 soldiers, 3,000 sailors and maybe another 3000 air men right?

Then you only have 3 submarines, 4 frigates and 3 OPVs. How many of these will be in your country and how many will you bring to Nigeria?
How will you even move your troops to Nigeria in the first place? Even your Gripens will need to stop in at least 3 countries before you get here.

Dummy, Nigeria should be the one talking of invading South Africa but we still don't claim such.

How many people in the SANDF have HIV?? Because you obviously have no fvcking clue!!!

Secondly we will not send 20000 troops we will send 3000, history has proven that we need only 3000, after all we took on Angola and Cuba that had a combined force of about 80000 with only 3000 men, also Angola and Cuba were armed with the latest aircraft,tanks,SAMs,APCs ect ect of that era, fortunately same can't be said for Nigeria.

Also force projection wouldn't be a problem, as we have proved we are this far the only African force that has a capability to project a force of about 5000 men and sustian such a force. Also we have/will never invade by sea.

Also if we want, we could just nuke you if we feel like it.

jln115:

How many people in the SANDF have HIV?? Because you obviously have no fvcking clue!!!

Secondly we will not send 20000 troops we will send 3000, history has proven that we need only 3000, after all we took on Angola and Cuba that had a combined force of about 80000 with only 3000 men, also Angola and Cuba were armed with the latest aircraft,tanks,SAMs,APCs ect ect of that era, fortunately same can't be said for Nigeria.

Also force projection wouldn't be a problem, as we have proved we are this far the only African force that has a capability to project a force of about 5000 men and sustian such a force. Also we have/will never invade by sea.

Also if we want, we could just nuke you if we feel like it.

very funny

Project 5,000 troops with helicopters to Nigeria? Or will it be on 4 frigate? Or maybe they will jog down dummy.

Very Foolish post

jln115:

WTF are you talking about bro, the Ratel,Casspir,mamba,G5,G6, Bateleur,seeker have all proven themselves in battle.......it seems like you forgot that South Africa fought the longest, largest and most modern conventional war this continent has seen since WW2.

Also, if we really want we could just reassemble our ICBMs and nuke your asse$ without any of our soldiers even lifting a finger.

Dead rusted metal nuclear weapons. What was the max range of the ICBM when it was still functional, can it range 5,000 km to Nigeria?

Anyways, your nuclear missile capability is DEAD.....see all the rust on the metal....LOL....rustico bombs will probably blew up in y.our own face at home if you try to launch them

jln115:

You are one hypocritical fvcker...aren't you? Just a few days ago, you nearly shat your pants when I posted a source from 2012, calling it outdated ect ect

And now here you come and post a source that's more than 11 years old!!

Also to be included in any division that has a combat role, you have to pass a medical, thus if you have HIV you can't form part of those divisions. All our combat Soldiers are all fit and ready.

Facts remain the same, HIV has NO cure, your SANDF men who had HIV 10 years ago still have it today, NO CURE !

SANDF has 30 battlions of HIV sick and weak soldiers who cannot fight war....Ghost army...Dead on arrival




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agaugust:


Dead rusted metal nuclear weapons. What was the max range of the ICBM when it was still functional, can it range 5,000 km to Nigeria?

Anyways, your nuclear missile capability is DEAD.....see all the rust on the metal....LOL....rustico bombs will probably blew up in y.our own face at home if you try to launch them

We can still make new ones.

And you cannot

agaugust:


Facts remain the same, HIV has NO cure, your SANDF men who had HIV 10 years ago still have it today, NO CURE !

SANDF has 30 battlions of HIV sick and weak soldiers who cannot fight war....Ghost army...Dead on arrival




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“The study included Regular Force and Military Skills Development members. It showed an HIV prevalence rate of 8,5% compared to the national prevalence rate of around 19%,” Ramlakan said.

The figure comes from the SANDF September 2011 health status report and was reconfirmed in an HIV prevalence study done last August.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-5767/

Illiterate ape.

agaugust:


Facts remain the same, HIV has NO cure, your SANDF men who had HIV 10 years ago still have it today, NO CURE !

SANDF has 30 battlions of HIV sick and weak soldiers who cannot fight war....Ghost army...Dead on arrival




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They like fuckkk pass goat.

patches689:


We can still make new ones.

And you cannot

Nope, you cannot in 2016, the capability lost with Apartheid era engineers, you Zulus and Coloreds of illiterate land of Cape Colony have NO brains to build nuclear weapons. Your Gripens are not nuclear capable, and Nigeria is 5,000 km away. LOL....you will just blõw yourselves up in Soweto
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agaugust:


Facts remain the same, HIV has NO cure, your SANDF men who had HIV 10 years ago still have it today, NO CURE !

SANDF has 30 battlions of HIV sick and weak soldiers who cannot fight war....Ghost army...Dead on arrival





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That is what makes millions of Nigerians shy from taking AIDS routine tests. Nigeria suffers AIDS pandemic as much as SA does. The only difference is that SA stats are reliable while those of Nigeria only covers a particular area of Nigeria used to represent the whole if Nigeria. No aids tests are performed in embattled Northern Nigeria.

Even though AIDS may be perceived by many as death sentence, when it comes to SA it is just another manageable sickness like diabetes. We all know that Nigeria is still far behind in terms of fighting AIDS epidemic. That's why millions of Nigerians and other Africans who are HIV positive come to flock in SA for a better treatment and as well counted in SA statistics.


http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2010/jun/282.html

agaugust:


Nope, you cannot in 2016, the capability lost with Apartheid era engineers, you Zulus and Coloreds of illiterate land of Cape Colony have NO brains to build nuclear weapons. Your Gripens are not nuclear capable, and Nigeria is 5,000 km away. LOL....you will just blõw yourselves up in Soweto
.

We have more sophisticated and advanced engineers than those of past that served under apartheid. The world of technology evolved very fast.

SA universities in the past offered nuclear engineering degrees even today they still offer such courses and have produced nuclear physicists and engineers in that field of nuclear technology.

agaugust:


Nope, you cannot in 2016, the capability lost with Apartheid era engineers, you Zulus and Coloreds of illiterate land of Cape Colony have NO brains to build nuclear weapons. Your Gripens are not nuclear capable, and Nigeria is 5,000 km away. LOL....you will just blõw yourselves up in Soweto
.

You do realize we still have a nuclear power plant and are world leaders in Nuclear Research?

You fvcking jackass

iblawi:
very funny

Project 5,000 troops with helicopters to Nigeria? Or will it be on 4 frigate? Or maybe they will jog down dummy.

Very Foolish post

Nope will just drive our APCs,IFVs, Artillery,Tanks to Cameroon, and fly the rest of our equipment up with C130s.

And then we will use 2 Frigates and a Sub to besieg your ports.

agaugust:


Dead rusted metal nuclear weapons. What was the max range of the ICBM when it was still functional, can it range 5,000 km to Nigeria?

Anyways, your nuclear missile capability is DEAD.....see all the rust on the metal....LOL....rustico bombs will probably blew up in y.our own face at home if you try to launch them

If our nuclear missile capability is dead? Then why did Iran beg us to help them with their nuclear program??
secondly the Range of RSA-4 was 4500 kms, the distance from Lagos to Pretoria is 4400kms.

agaugust:


Nope, you cannot in 2016, the capability lost with Apartheid era engineers, you Zulus and Coloreds of illiterate land of Cape Colony have NO brains to build nuclear weapons. Your Gripens are not nuclear capable, and Nigeria is 5,000 km away. LOL....you will just blõw yourselves up in Soweto
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If it's dead, why did Iran beg us to help them with their nuclear program?

Secondly its 4400km from Pretoria to Lagos, RSA-4 had a range of 4500kms

FighterPilot:



We have more sophisticated and advanced engineers than those of past that served under apartheid. The world of technology evolved very fast.

SA universities in the past offered nuclear engineering degrees even today they still offer such courses and have produced nuclear physicists and engineers in that field of nuclear technology.

My Sister is studying nuclear engineering next year, going to ask her to design a nuke to delete the whole Nigeria......... Haha Just kidding about the blowing up the Nigeria part!!

jln115:

Nope will just drive our APCs,IFVs, Artillery,Tanks to Cameroon, and fly the rest of our equipment up with C130s.

And then we will use 2 Frigates and a Sub to besieg your ports.

Fool Cameroon will never allow you to land in their territory.

How many C-130 do you have and how many soldiers will die in them?

Dummy, let's assume Nigeria did not even react, we still have more vessels than the total number of missiles you have. So you will all die before you get to Nigeria.

You fool didn't even consider we have missile attack craft, frigate, corvette, fighter jets, armed Drones surveillance aircraft, satellite, etc.

You fool didn't consider that you submarine can only move 400nm submerged. It means you will still be within our EEZ when we will sink them.

If this is how your generals reason am sure Angola is more than enough to invade South Africa.

Nigeria should be the 1 taking of invading South Africa. We are in better position to project force than South Africa.

iblawi:


Fool Cameroon will never allow you to land in their territory.

How many C-130 do you have and how many soldiers will die in them?

Dummy, let's assume Nigeria did not even react, we still have more vessels than the total number of missiles you have. So you will all die before you get to Nigeria.

You fool didn't even consider we have missile attack craft, frigate, corvette, fighter jets, armed Drones surveillance aircraft, satellite, etc.

You fool didn't consider that you submarine can only move 400nm submerged.

If this is how your generals reason am sure Angola is more than enough to invade South Africa.

Sorry but we have better relations with Cameroon than Nigeria.

And we have 9 C-130/and 0 soldiers die in them

Why should our Sub sail submerged to Nigeria?

Out of your 200 or so vessels only 1 can engage our sub, but unfortunately it's out of service, so you have 0 vessels with ASW capability, also only 1 of your vessels can be fiited with SSMs but unfortunately it's the same ship as mentioned above.

You don't have corvettes, you have 3rd gen fighters, you only have 1 frigate that hadn't been operational for more than 5 years, you have civilian grade satellites while we have a $250 million dedicated spy satellite, we have a tactical data link, we also have armed drones.

jln115:

Sorry but we have better relations with Cameroon than Nigeria.

And we have 9 C-130/and 0 soldiers die in them

Why should our Sub sail submerged to Nigeria?

Out of your 200 or so vessels only 1 can engage our sub, but unfortunately it's out of service, so you have 0 vessels with ASW capability, also only 1 of your vessels can be fiited with SSMs but unfortunately it's the same ship as mentioned above.

You don't have corvettes, you have 3rd gen fighters, you only have 1 frigate that hadn't been operational for more than 5 years, you have civilian grade satellites while we have a $250 million dedicated spy satellite, we have a tactical data link, we also have armed drones.

You have better relations with Cameroon! Am speechless

You have 9 C-130 and we have 8 C-130.

I guess you should ask patrick and others why you sub must be submerged in our territory.

If we don't have corvette then tell me what NNS centenary and NNS unity is?
Tell me Aradu, okpabana and thunder are not frigate. Only two of your frigates are operational as we speak so what deference those that make if Aradu is currently out of service?
Fool NNS Siri, NNS Ayam and NNS Ekun can lunch SSM. And NNS centenary and unity can equally be refitted to carry 250km range missiles within a short time. Same thing with thunder and okpabana. NNS Aradu will soon be back to service.
We have 3 lynx helicopter capable of ASW not your own SAR lynx helicopter. Give me a good reason why a 3 generation jet can't sink a ship?

Fool you claim you have TDL that was developed base on link 11 which uses half duplex communication and it equally has slow throughput. How will that help you? no one wants to used link 11 or anything of it kind in this age, I can't keep telling the flaws of your TDL cos even UK refuse to use their Bowman.

Idiot you don't have armed Drones in SADF fool.

iblawi:


Fool Cameroon will never allow you to land in their territory.

How many C-130 do you have and how many soldiers will die in them?

Dummy, let's assume Nigeria did not even react, we still have more vessels than the total number of missiles you have. So you will all die before you get to Nigeria.

You fool didn't even consider we have missile attack craft, frigate, corvette, fighter jets, armed Drones surveillance aircraft, satellite, etc.

You fool didn't consider that you submarine can only move 400nm submerged. It means you will still be within our EEZ when we will sink them.

If this is how your generals reason am sure Angola is more than enough to invade South Africa.

Nigeria should be the 1 taking of invading South Africa. We are in better position to project force than South Africa.

Before you even speak of projecting force to SA you should first think of projecting force against BH. SANDF is more equipped than Nigerian armed forces from Airforce, Navy and Army.

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iblawi:


You have better relations with Cameroon! Am speechless

You have 9 C-130 and we have 8 C-130.

I guess you should ask patrick and others why you sub must be submerged in our territory.

If we don't have corvette then tell me what NNS centenary and NNS unity is?
Tell me Aradu, okpabana and thunder are not frigate. Only two of your frigates are operational as we speak so what deference those that make if Aradu is currently out of service?
Fool NNS Siri, NNS Ayam and NNS Ekun can lunch SSM. And NNS centenary and unity can equally be refitted to carry 250km range missiles within a short time. Same thing with thunder and okpabana. NNS Aradu will soon be back to service.
We have 3 lynx helicopter capable of ASW not your own SAR lynx helicopter. Give me a good reason why a 3 generation jet can't sink a ship?

Fool you claim you have TDL that was developed base on link 11 which uses half duplex communication and it equally has slow throughput. How will that help you? no one wants to used link 11 or anything of it kind in this age, I can't keep telling the flaws of your TDL cos even UK refuse to use their Bowman.

Idiot you don't have armed Drones in SADF fool.

Id.ot we manufacture armed drones not just only two you procured from China. We built more powerful armed drones than those you have.


Your military is seriously ill-equipped as confirmed by hundreds sources.

No subs, Frigates, 4th gen fighters, Lead in Fighter Trainer (LIFT) fighters, TDL, C3I, C2, Artillery, etc

iblawi:


You have better relations with Cameroon! Am speechless

You have 9 C-130 and we have 8 C-130.

I guess you should ask patrick and others why you sub must be submerged in our territory.

If we don't have corvette then tell me what NNS centenary and NNS unity is?
Tell me Aradu, okpabana and thunder are not frigate. Only two of your frigates are operational as we speak so what deference those that make if Aradu is currently out of service?
Fool NNS Siri, NNS Ayam and NNS Ekun can lunch SSM. And NNS centenary and unity can equally be refitted to carry 250km range missiles within a short time. Same thing with thunder and okpabana. NNS Aradu will soon be back to service.
We have 3 lynx helicopter capable of ASW not your own SAR lynx helicopter. Give me a good reason why a 3 generation jet can't sink a ship?

Fool you claim you have TDL that was developed base on link 11 which uses half duplex communication and it equally has slow throughput. How will that help you? no one wants to used link 11 or anything of it kind in this age, I can't keep telling the flaws of your TDL cos even UK refuse to use their Bowman.

Idiot you don't have armed Drones in SADF fool.

Difference is our C130s look like thisPic1)

NNS Centenary and Unity are OPVs and don't have any AntiShip or AntiSub capability

NNS Thunder and Okpabana are OPVs, same as above.

Only Aradu can be classified as a frigate, yet she's not operational

NNS Centenary and Unity can not be fitted with missles or torpedos as they were never built to accommodate them.

We also have missile Boats(Pic2)

Your lynx don't have sonar, thus no ASW capability. They are also not operational.

Your F7 don't carry precision guided bombs, they also lack the EW capability to counter a 5th generation umkhonto SAM

Firstly our TDL isn't based on link 11(Which we also have),nobody even said it was, its based on link 16 and 22

FighterPilot:



We have more sophisticated and advanced engineers than those of past that served under apartheid. The world of technology evolved very fast.

SA universities in the past offered nuclear engineering degrees even today they still offer such courses and have produced nuclear physicists and engineers in that field of nuclear technology.

Story story personal opinion with no proof. Your tales by moonlight you wrote above is NOT equal to nuclear capability, your ranting mouth does not manufacture nuclear weapons. Your apartheid nuclear experts are gone with their white man era, today you Zulus and Coloreds CANNOT even produce christmas firecrackers with your people's dull brain that is ranked second dullest in maths and science world wide.....ya all be dummies
.

jln115:

Difference is our C130s look like thisPic1)

NNS Centenary and Unity are OPVs and don't have any AntiShip or AntiSub capability

NNS Thunder and Okpabana are OPVs, same as above.

Only Aradu can be classified as a frigate, yet she's not operational

NNS Centenary and Unity can not be fitted with missles or torpedos as they were never built to accommodate them.

We also have missile Boats(Pic2)

Your lynx don't have sonar, thus no ASW capability. They are also not operational.

Your F7 don't carry precision guided bombs, they also lack the EW capability to counter a 5th generation umkhonto SAM

Firstly our TDL isn't based on link 11(Which we also have),nobody even said it was, its based on link 16 and 22

Is it the cockpit that will transport 5000 troops to Nigeria? What advantage will that give your troops?

This guy have started again. Every source prove our Lynx have ASW capabilites.

Don't worry about F7 they will be replaced dis year.

Shout up guy you know nothing about TDL. Tell me when the development of link 22 started? Tell me how you got info on link 16. YOU JUST COME HERE TO POST RUBBISH.

for you information you don't have a missile boat. All your warrior class have been stripped off that capability.

Give prove that that NNS centenary and unity cannot be upgraded to carry missiles. They were built base on existing design. And nothing was added to use up those spaces.

Tell me NNS thunder and NNS Okpabama can not be equipped with missiles too.

Have a good look at NNS Siri and NNS Ayam undergoing refit.

agaugust:


Story story personal opinion with no proof. Your tales by moonlight you wrote above is NOT equal to nuclear capability, your ranting mouth does not manufacture nuclear weapons. Your apartheid nuclear experts are gone with their white man era, today you Zulus and Coloreds CANNOT even produce christmas firecrackers with your people's dull brain that is ranked second dullest in maths and science world wide.....ya all be dummies
.

Yet our Universities are some of the best in the world, and dominate Africa's top 10

agaugust:


Story story personal opinion with no proof. Your tales by moonlight you wrote above is NOT equal to nuclear capability, your ranting mouth does not manufacture nuclear weapons. Your apartheid nuclear experts are gone with their white man era, today you Zulus and Coloreds CANNOT even produce christmas firecrackers with your people's dull brain that is ranked second dullest in maths and science world wide.....ya all be dummies
.

Except the "colored and zulu brains" developed the most advanced reactor in the world... so advanced the Chinese sent spies to steal the technology from us.

Is this what we have turned you into? Are you so destroyed and defeated that all you have is petty insults?

iblawi:


This guy have started again. Every source prove our Lynx have ASW capabilites.

Don't worry about F7 they will be replaced dis year.

Shout up guy you know nothing about TDL. Tell me when the development of link 22 started? Tell me how you got info on link 16. YOU JUST COME HERE TO POST RUBBISH.

for you information you don't have a missile boat. All your warrior class have been stripped off that capability.

Give prove that that NNS centenary and unity cannot be upgraded to carry missiles. They were built base on existing design. And nothing was added to use up those spaces.

Tell me NNS thunder and NNS Okpabama can not be equipped with missiles too.

Have a good look at NNS Siri and NNS Ayam undergoing refit.

1. No single source says YOUR Lynx has ASW capabilities

2. No one cares about NNS Centenary... it doesnt have missiles, end of story

3. NNS Thunder and NNS Okpadama cannot be fitted with missiles and ARE NOT fitted with missiles. End of story

So what? We refited a Type 209 submarine (first in Africa) and re-fitted SAS Spionkop in 6 months.... you boys slapping some paint on an obsolete vessel does not impress us.