agaugust:


Liar, you are a Lawyer not an air force man or airport staff. You told us you are a Lawyer.

Meanwhile, SAAF C2 is operating telephone conferencing and Skype TV as their own C2....see your own C2 also holding a microphone like Buhari did....so SAAF too is doing what Nigeria is doing....means you have no C2 according to your own half brain logic
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Agaugust I may have studied law but I am now currently serving in the force and I was even before I went to study.

I made such claims before.


https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=msauza+drc+beni&board=0

agaugust:


....and you want to be the leader of the whole of Africa....fool !....You cherry pick which nation is easy to 'help'

Who said we want to be the leader of the whole of Africa?

Unlike Nigerians we are not motivated by superficial things

Henry240:
[s]This is how the interior of the Eagle system looks like. Based on the description given, i can comfortably say the interior looks like this.



I remember in 2013, before Nigerian Troops were deployed to Mali, I recall the then COAS presented command vehicles ( Pingzuaer trucks), all of them with communications equipments ( MFDs, Surveillance cameras etc etc[/s])

bullsh1t - no one gives a fvck about your opinion, we all read the same article... it is vauge and general.

Meanwhile... this is what our Command post actually looks like

agaugust:


[s]Burundi was never truly stable, you left it hanging in the balance. Stabilizing an African country is NOT a one year job. See Somalia and Congo.

Nigeria stabilized Liberia 20 years ago, we stook them from civil war to democratic elections, yet Nigerian army battalion is STILL in Libera today, Nigerian military stabilizes other African countries and we stay there at our own expense to make sure they stay stabilized. You South Africans are NOT loving and caring enough to do that for your fellow African brother nations in crisis. You jump out when it gets hot.[/s]

1. Burundi had democratic elections and then we left

2. Liberia was stabilized by Americans

Fact is this: South Africa stabilized lesotho in a week and burundi in 18 months. Now that crises has resumed in Burundi we are leading the charge to INVADE them and ENFORCE peace upon them.

Nigerians, you are obsessed with image and presitige... we just get the job done

agaugust:



[s]You are the one deceiving people on every thread just to make your country look greater at the expense of other countries.

My source is South African Defenceweb and is official !!!!!

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⦿ Chaka C2 is ONLY for brigade sized forces and below....means maximum 5,000 troops coordination limited capability.

"Exercise Ndlovu, now underway, is expected to provide the South African Army and Joint Operations (J Ops) Division a first opportunity to test the recently-delivered Chaka brigade-and-below C2 system . "

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20892



⦿ Chaka C2 system is ONLY for small brigade sized military operations, NOT an entire battle space the size of Scotland


⦿ Nigerian Eagle C2 is superior, it commands and controls, manages whole battle space for a WHOLE ARMY OF 30,000 TROOPS and A WHOLE AIR FORCE OF 100 AIRCRAFT, Chake C2 of SANDF is limited ONLY to 5,000 troops.....Brigade size and below to battalion of 600 troops [/s]
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No where does it say that Eagle can do that.

We all read the same article, do you really think that we would not notice you making things up??

Also, we have enough Chaka systems to have 3 brigades operational at one time.

agaugust:




LOL....that means the entire South African air force C2 system is ordinary video conferencing, see your SAAF telephone and TV screen in your South African air force command and control post

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2009/034_2009.htm



SAAF has NO C2 systems according to your definition !!!!!!!
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Is he veiwing data on the screen or is he calling someone via skype?

Grow up man, you are killing this thread

agaugust:


Fool, that is NOT the command post vehicle, that is a TV monitor brought outside for the president to use with a large crown watching him, the inside of the vehicle is NOT shown at all .....Fool.

So there isnt space inside for the president to communicate via VOIP?

Why cant your president use the vehicle for real time communication?

This is so boring... nigerians dig a mole-hill and then act as though it is a mountain

agaugust:

[s]
Nope, this is NOT data link or ATC system, this is the official command and control post of SAAF, your Southie Air Force !!!!!

LOL...that means according to all South African's arguments against Nigerian army Eagle C2, the entire South African air force C2 system is ordinary TELEPHONE conferencing, see your telephone and TV screen SAAF command post

It is your SAAF combat command and control post C2...

"Through the installation of new Air Picture systems at the sector, it makes the command and control more effective and also creates more space for the staff of BACS. It has the ability to operate twenty-four hours should the situation necessitate any action to be taken.

Furthermore, the sector would be able to provide a real-time accuracy air situation picture by tracking and identifying all aircraft in the area of operation with the help of ground-based radar and radio systems in order to compile a flight plan statistic directory used by identification officers and controllers. For this purpose Command and Control personnel have developed a unique system in order to restrict flying over certain zones.

The mission controllers control all services to military aircraft engaged in the operation, and guide pilots to Combat Air Patrol positions. They also repel any possible renegade airplanes and exercise close control of interrogation missions."

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2009/034_2009.htm [/s]


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What exactly is your argument here?

Because... I see you posting very specific information for our capabilities.

And I dont see you being able to post anything about yours

agaugust:

[s]
Who cares who installed it, we have it, simple. Who installed Nigerian navy situation control room equipment? We don't know but we have it.

SANDF Chaka C2 is limited capacity to only one brigade of 5,000 troops, nothing more ! Low power C2 for brigade level and below.

NA has Eagle C2 for a whole army and air force in a whole battle theatre. High power C2 for complete national armed forces and above.

Meanwhile, SAAF C2 is operating telephone conferencing and Skype TV as their own C2....see your own C2 also holding a microphone like Buhari did....so SAAF too is doing what Nigeria is doing....means you have no C2 according to your own half brain logic [/s]

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1. No where does the Eagle system have the capabilities that you claim

2. The only one who is applying half brain logic is you - you posted the capabilities of the SAAF APDS but you arent able to post anything of your own.

Have you lost your mind? DO you not realize that you are killing yourself with your argument??

agaugust:


Liar, you are a Lawyer not an air force man or airport staff. You told us you are a Lawyer.

Meanwhile, SAAF C2 is operating telephone conferencing and Skype TV as their own C2....see your own C2 also holding a microphone like Buhari did....so SAAF too is doing what Nigeria is doing....means you have no C2 according to your own half brain logic
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And the most autistic post of the year goes to..... agaugust

agaugust:


Who cares who installed it, we have it, simple. Who installed Nigerian navy situation control room equipment? We don't know but we have it.

SANDF Chaka C2 is limited capacity to only one brigade of 5,000 troops, nothing more ! Low power C2 for brigade level and below.

NA has Eagle C2 for a whole army and air force in a whole battle theatre. High power C2 for complete national armed forces and above.

Meanwhile, SAAF C2 is operating telephone conferencing and Skype TV as their own C2....see your own C2 also holding a microphone like Buhari did....so SAAF too is doing what Nigeria is doing....means you have no C2 according to your own half brain logic

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Do you think we have only one C2 system for a brigade? We have procured a lot for many brigades and even for future brigades. We have procured almost 40 mobile command posts not just a single vehicle like in your sad case.

Gentlemen just look at this picture
It has all the properties of a video conferencing. Look at how the cam caught that man. Major Olukoju has shiboboed Nigeria here. This is video conferencing, No doubt about it.



http://www.elombah.com/index.php/reports/4359-nigerian-army-launches-eagle-mobile-central-command-post

agaugust:


Liar, you are a Lawyer not an air force man or airport staff. You told us you are a Lawyer.

Meanwhile, SAAF C2 is operating telephone conferencing and Skype TV as their own C2....see your own C2 also holding a microphone like Buhari did....so SAAF too is doing what Nigeria is doing....means you have no C2 according to your own half brain logic
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You have told us that you are a military researcher/Accountant/Finance Manager, you apparently live in Apapa and the US at the same time, you have also aged backwards from being an old man to being a young man within a year!

Msauza:
Gentlemen just look at this picture
It has all the properties of a video conferencing. Look at how the cam caught that man. Major Olukoju has shiboboed Nigeria here. This is video conferencing, No doubt about it.



http://www.elombah.com/index.php/reports/4359-nigerian-army-launches-eagle-mobile-central-command-post

Bwahahahaha… you caught him


Video conferencing only need
-Monitors
-Telephone
-Microphone
-Computer Network
-Camera

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/V/videoconferencing.html

This is what we have found. Just Zoom the last picture of the man inside the truck in front of computers and you will see images of Buhari wearing his hijab on his monitors.

Know more about VTC or video teleconferencing



http://www.video-conferencing-guide.org/benefits-of-video-conferencing.html

FighterPilot:


Bwahahahaha… you caught him


Video conferencing only need
-Monitors
-Telephone
-Microphone
-Computer Network
-Camera

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/V/videoconferencing.html

This is what we have found. Just Zoom the last picture of the man inside the truck in front of computers and you will see images of Buhari wearing his hijab on his monitors.

I have been always right that it was a video conferencing.

Just read how Nigerians condemn Nigeria's army video conferencing.

https://www.nairaland.com/2878276/army-mobile-central-command-post

BwahahahahBwahahahaha…

patches689:


bullsh1t - no one gives a fvck about your opinion, we all read the same article... it is vauge and general.

Meanwhile... this is what our Command post actually looks like

Actually everyone, including you.


The article was concise, straight to the point and clear. The reason you cant seem to grasp it is, South-Africans in General lack critical reasoning, you can't "think on your feet".



A mobile C2 vehicle is different from a command center.




The Nigerian military has moved its command centre to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.
This, according to a press statement released by the
Nigerian Army, is in line with President Muhammadu
Buhari’s directive that the military high command be
relocated to Borno State, the hotbed of the Boko Haram
insurgency.
President Buhari had, during his inauguration on May 29,
said the command centre of the military would be relocated
to Maiduguri and remain there until Boko Haram is
completely subdued.
The establishment of the command centre for ‘Operation
Zaman Lafiya’ was contained in a press statement signed by
the Acting Director Army Public Relations, Colonel Sani
Kukasheka Usman, and made available to press men.
“In compliance with Presidential pronouncement and the
Chief of Army Staff’s directive, a reconnaissance and
advance team for the establishment of Military Command
and Control Centre (MCCC) for Operation Zaman Lafiya for
the fight against terrorism and insurgency has moved to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.


“The team, which is led by a Two -Star General, has already
commenced work in earnest and it is comprised of elements
of the officer of the Chief of Army Staff, all the relevant Army
Headquarters Departments and other combat support
components. The centre will serve as a forward command
base for the Chief of Army Staff and other service chiefs.
The authorities of the Nigerian Army said arrangement had
been made for all Service Chiefs to move into Maiduguri
tomorrow (Tuesday).


“The centre is essentially an elaboration of an already
existing Army Headquarters Command and Control
arrangement. From now on, the fight against terrorism and
insurgency would be monitored, coordinated and controlled
from this centre.



“I wish to inform you also that its establishment would not
create another layer of Command structure but would add
impetus and renewed vigour to Operation Zaman Lafiya, all
aimed at bringing terrorism and insurgency to an end.
“However, an alternate command centre is also being
established in Yola, the Adamawa state capital of the North
east”. Colonel Usman stated.

Henry240:


Actually everyone, including you.


The article was concise, straight to the point and clear. The reason you cant seem to grasp it is, South-Africans in General lack critical reasoning, you can't "think on your feet".



A mobile C2 vehicle is different from a command center.




The Nigerian military has moved its command centre to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.
This, according to a press statement released by the
Nigerian Army, is in line with President Muhammadu
Buhari’s directive that the military high command be
relocated to Borno State, the hotbed of the Boko Haram
insurgency.
President Buhari had, during his inauguration on May 29,
said the command centre of the military would be relocated
to Maiduguri and remain there until Boko Haram is
completely subdued.
The establishment of the command centre for ‘Operation
Zaman Lafiya’ was contained in a press statement signed by
the Acting Director Army Public Relations, Colonel Sani
Kukasheka Usman, and made available to press men.
“In compliance with Presidential pronouncement and the
Chief of Army Staff’s directive, a reconnaissance and
advance team for the establishment of Military Command
and Control Centre (MCCC) for Operation Zaman Lafiya for
the fight against terrorism and insurgency has moved to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.


“The team, which is led by a Two -Star General, has already
commenced work in earnest and it is comprised of elements
of the officer of the Chief of Army Staff, all the relevant Army
Headquarters Departments and other combat support
components. The centre will serve as a forward command
base for the Chief of Army Staff and other service chiefs.
The authorities of the Nigerian Army said arrangement had
been made for all Service Chiefs to move into Maiduguri
tomorrow (Tuesday).


“The centre is essentially an elaboration of an already
existing Army Headquarters Command and Control
arrangement. From now on, the fight against terrorism and
insurgency would be monitored, coordinated and controlled
from this centre.



“I wish to inform you also that its establishment would not
create another layer of Command structure but would add
impetus and renewed vigour to Operation Zaman Lafiya, all
aimed at bringing terrorism and insurgency to an end.
“However, an alternate command centre is also being
established in Yola, the Adamawa state capital of the North
east”. Colonel Usman stated.

You bloody liar, that's not mobile C2 vehicle. Where in that source did they ever said it is a mobile C2 system? Look here in SA our sources do not hesitate to call our system a C2. We procured 40 mobile C2 systems.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/print-version/south-african-army-to-get-command-and-control-system-2008-08-29

Henry240:


Actually everyone, including you.


The article was concise, straight to the point and clear. The reason you cant seem to grasp it is, South-Africans in General lack critical reasoning, you can't "think on your feet".



A mobile C2 vehicle is different from a command center.




The Nigerian military has moved its command centre to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.
This, according to a press statement released by the
Nigerian Army, is in line with President Muhammadu
Buhari’s directive that the military high command be
relocated to Borno State, the hotbed of the Boko Haram
insurgency.
President Buhari had, during his inauguration on May 29,
said the command centre of the military would be relocated
to Maiduguri and remain there until Boko Haram is
completely subdued.
The establishment of the command centre for ‘Operation
Zaman Lafiya’ was contained in a press statement signed by
the Acting Director Army Public Relations, Colonel Sani
Kukasheka Usman, and made available to press men.
“In compliance with Presidential pronouncement and the
Chief of Army Staff’s directive, a reconnaissance and
advance team for the establishment of Military Command
and Control Centre (MCCC) for Operation Zaman Lafiya for
the fight against terrorism and insurgency has moved to
Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.


“The team, which is led by a Two -Star General, has already
commenced work in earnest and it is comprised of elements
of the officer of the Chief of Army Staff, all the relevant Army
Headquarters Departments and other combat support
components. The centre will serve as a forward command
base for the Chief of Army Staff and other service chiefs.
The authorities of the Nigerian Army said arrangement had
been made for all Service Chiefs to move into Maiduguri
tomorrow (Tuesday).


“The centre is essentially an elaboration of an already
existing Army Headquarters Command and Control
arrangement. From now on, the fight against terrorism and
insurgency would be monitored, coordinated and controlled
from this centre.



“I wish to inform you also that its establishment would not
create another layer of Command structure but would add
impetus and renewed vigour to Operation Zaman Lafiya, all
aimed at bringing terrorism and insurgency to an end.
“However, an alternate command centre is also being
established in Yola, the Adamawa state capital of the North
east”. Colonel Usman stated.

1. Nobody is talking about C2, we are talking about C3 and its derivatives.

Remeber: Officer + map + Radio = C2

2. Nothing in that article indicates sophistication of the level that the SANDF has achieved

Chaka C2 system: In detail!!

Unfortunately i couldn't download the pdf

African Armed Forces Journal
October 2012

FighterPilot:


You surely don't know SA. You are foreigner here but you surely have a lot to learn. The biggest mall in Africa will not be in Menlyn.

Isn't it gonna be "Mall of Africa" in Midrand when its completed. I heard its gonna be the biggest Mall in AFRICA

patches689:


bullsh1t - no one gives a fvck about your opinion, we all read the same article... it is vauge and general.

Meanwhile... this is what our Command post actually looks like

Fool, that is NOT a vehicle mobile command post, of can you fit all those men into one single Toyota vehicle?

LOL....your command post too has telephone boxes and uses laptop screens as TV screen....LOL....now you guys never knew that the Nigerian Eagle telephone and Tv screen you were laughing at is exactly what SANDF and SAAF also uses for command post equipment...fools !

Now we can say that your South African army commqnd post is just a few laptops that are doing internet browser communication equal to a civiliqn cybercafe, so you have no C2, what you have ;is a cybercafe of some soldiers sending yahoo emails to SANDF troops on the battlefield !

SANDF has NO military grade command post !!!
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jln115:
Chaka C2 system: In detail!!

Unfortunately i couldn't download the pdf

African Armed Forces Journal

October 2012

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Stop mixing different photos dude ! The many computers lined up in that first photo is NOT a vehicle mobile Chaka C2, that photo is a simulator room playing for war games . All we see in a real Chaka C2 MRAP is one single tiny computer !



LOL....we have seen your Chaka C2 data and specs, it is confirmed to be a low capacity C2 platform for commanding ONLY a maximum of 5,000 troops.....it's for brigade level and below on a small piece of land space, maybe just a city.

Nigerian Eagle C2 commands a whole army and a whole air force in a whole battle theater as big as a country, Eagle is 100 times superiror and more powerful than your toy Chaka C2 !!!
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agaugust:
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I didn't mix any photos dude, they are numbered 15-18

Also i suggest you read the article, especially were it says that all the systems can be Linked thanks to LinkZA.

Also see your still living in denial.....A single army General cannot create a C2 system thats even 10% as effective as one which took dozens of Scientists millions of dollars and years of development to produce!

agaugust:


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Stop mixing different photos dude ! The many computers lined up in that first photo is NOT a vehicle mobile Chaka C2. All we see in a real Chaka C2 MRAP is one single tiny computer !



LOL....we have seen your Chaka C2 data and specs, it is confirmed to be a low capacity C2 platform for commanding ONLY a maximum of 5,000 troops.....it's for brigade level and below on a small piece of land space, maybe just a city.

Nigerian Eagle C2 commands a whole army and a whole air force in a whole battle theater as big as a country, Eagle is 100 times superiror and more powerful than your toy Chaka C2 !!![/s]
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1. Each INDEPENDENT Chaka system is designed to command 5000 men. We have 3, so that is 15 000 men on the feild commanded by C3. These systems can then be linked together for a broader picture via link ZA AND then you can integrate the air-forces APDS

2. You do not have those capabilities, we all read the same article, stop claiming you do.

You have clearly lost your damn mind.

agaugust:


Fool, that is NOT a vehicle mobile command post, of can you fit all those men into one single Toyota vehicle?

LOL....your command post too has telephone boxes and uses laptop screens as TV screen....LOL....now you guys never knew that the Nigerian Eagle telephone and Tv screen you were laughing at is exactly what SANDF and SAAF also uses for command post equipment...fools !

Now we can say that your South African army commqnd post is just a few laptops that are doing internet browser communication equal to a civiliqn cybercafe, so you have no C2, what you have ;is a cybercafe of some soldiers sending yahoo emails to SANDF troops on the battlefield !

SANDF has NO military grade command post !!!
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1. Yes, it is a mobile command post

2. We dont use our screens to SKYPE people

3. Your last paragraph is pure autism, I guess you are now suffering a complete mental breakdown. I recommend you seek medical attention.

patches689:


1. Each INDEPENDENT Chaka system is designed to command 5000 men. We have 3, so that is 15 000 men on the feild commanded by C3. These systems can then be linked together for a broader picture via link ZA AND then you can integrate the air-forces APDS

2. You do not have those capabilities, we all read the same article, stop claiming you do.

You have clearly lost your damn mind.

15 000! Over kill if you consider we have never deployed more than 3000 soldiers even during full on war!!......and we have 4 Chaka systems....So its actually 20000

jln115:

I didn't mix any photos dude, they are numbered 15-18

Also i suggest you read the article, especially were it says that all the systems can be Linked thanks to LinkZA.

Also see your still living in denial.....A single army General cannot create a C2 system thats even 10% as effective as one which took dozens of Scientists millions of dollars and years of development to produce!

Thief, your first photo is a simulation training room of many students with many computers, that's NOT C2 command post or is it trainee students that command SANDF officers in battle zone ?

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38905:successful-simulation-exercise-at-ctc&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

Fraud ! SANDF C2 is just one tiny laptop computer in one MRAP called Chaka C2 for 5,000 troops command only !

Eagle C2 of Nigeria beats SANDF Chaka C2 by 100 times more power/capacity ! Eagle commands a whole army and air force for Nigeria.

We own you, your army CANNOT command and control in remote area once the troops exceed 5,000 men !
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agaugust:


[s]Thief, your first photo is a simulation training room of many students with many computers, that's NOT C2 command post or is it trainee students that command SANDF officers in battle zone ?

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38905:successful-simulation-exercise-at-ctc&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

Fraud ! SANDF C2 is just one tiny laptop computer in one MRAP called Chaka C2 for 5,000 troops command only !

Eagle C2 of Nigeria beats SANDF Chaka C2 by 100 times more power/capacity ! Eagle commands a whole army and air force for Nigeria.

We own you, your army CANNOT command and control in remote area once the troops exceed 5,000 men ! [/s]
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Not even worth responding to

Are you intentionally killing this thread?

And yes we can, each system commands 5k men... we have 3 right now... they can be linked via LinkZA

jln115:

15 000! Over kill if you consider we have never deployed more than 3000 soldiers even during full on war!!......and we have 4 Chaka systems....So its actually 20000

Show us proof you have 4 Chakas.

Do you know how many Eagles we have too?

Conclusion, one Chaka C2 commands ONLY 5,000 troops. One Eagle commands A WHOLE army + air force combined !

Thanks for admitting that One Nigerian army Eagle C2 = Hundred SANDF Chaka C2

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