Fake Eagle VTC can only cover for a platoon.

jln115:

So your saying an army General developed a C2 system more sophisticated than one that took dozens of SAABs best engineers years and millions of dollars to develop??

You South-Africans really do need a brain or two.


Where in the report does it say the Nigerian general manufactured the equipment used in the system?

According to how the system performs, it is significantly better than anything you have in service.


Brainless in 2016 isn't an ideal way to start the year.

agaugust:

[s]
Did the story say that Nigerian army general manufactured the equipment? Does he have a factory to manufacture the TV screen, telephone, computers, network routers, power supply batteries, communication antenna, data CPU, and he built the Toyota vehicle by himself too etc ?

He designed the set up, be constructed the arrangement, he decided what was needed and got manufacturers to supply the parts, he probable assembled them into the vehicle. He likely is a highly trained super engineer and a black genius....NO ZULU OR COLORED SANDF OFFICER HAS THAT TYPE OF BRAIN, the whole of South Africa has to be spoon fed their breakfast by Europe, reason why your tactical data link failed, Europe refused to help you as they usually do, to build data link , they refused to transfer the technology, Southie engineers struggled for over 10 years, yet they only managed to produce INTERCOM instead of TDL tactical data link that can work from Submarine to Ship to jet fighter to helicopter to artillery to tanks....[/s]

[s]I have always warned you Southies that your so called advanced local defence industry is 80% European made, and the day those white masters pull the lug out, South African defence industry will be reduced to Burundi level[/s]
.

Lots of insults

No actual content

agaugust:


[s]Did you read your source before you posted it? It says further..

Just a few months ago, dozens of soldiers were recalled from the DRC on charges of misconduct and have since been dismissed from the force.

Earlier this year, a UN report, spanning 2010 to 2013, rated South African soldiers as among the worst sexual offenders on UN peacekeeping missions."

Bwhahahaa SANDF troops become evil räpists in Congo DRC ! Congrats, evil Southies spoiling the name of their fatherland abroad....räpist soldiers of South Africa, räping the wives and children of their fellow African brothers in Congo peace mission...Shame on you [/s]all !!!

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1. Recalled and diciplined

2. Nigeria was ranked just behind RSA. And it says "among" the worst... not "the worst". You illiterate buffoon

Again, you have no actual argument or criticism and so you throw insults.

Dude, why must you drag the standards of this thread so low?

agaugust:


[s]
Bwahahaha

Read your long story very well, it is NOT talking about one single Chaka C2 mobile vehicle, it is talking about the possibility of having several fixed land based and mobile Chakas combined with army and aiir force command and control rooms ground based at army HQ and airports, it even added the SAAF Air Picture land head office/HQ and airport building based command and control center as part of the integration that is IMAGINARY and drawn on a 3D artist photo which you posted above.


Fact remains....One Nigerian Eagle C2 = Hundred Chaka C2 brigade level & below only capacity.

CONFIRMED BY SOUTH AFRICAN OFFICIAL SOURCES.[/s]

You still fail to understand how the system works... which is ok, because Nigeria cannot conduct net-centric warfare so it is an alien concept to you.

Btw, still waiting for proof of your claims

agaugust:






Only ONE SINGLE Chaka C2 has been delivered to SANDF, show us proof that 4 was delivered as you claim, prove it !
.

Proof has been posted 3 times now.

Seems to me like you are stalling for time.

Henry240:

According to how the system performs, it is significantly better than anything you have in service.

Where exactly does it say this?

This is the stongest yet indication of Nigerian hubris. You are such an emotional people, you cannot accept your flaws, so you must go around making mountains out of mole hills to full your psyche as an African giant.

And the only reason you have this psyche is because South Africa was isolated. Now that we are part of Africa we surpass you constantly, this has lead to massive emasculation amonsgt Nigerian nationalists and so we see the behaviour that is common on this forum - the use of vauge and general reports to try and argue that they are "better" than South Africa.



You have made many claims, please back them up with data - or admit you have no idea what you are talking about.

agaugust:






Only ONE SINGLE Chaka C2 has been delivered to SANDF, show us proof that 4 was delivered as you claim, prove it !
.

Prove that the other 3 were not delivered.

Henry240:


You South-Africans really do need a brain or two.


Where in the report does it say the Nigerian general manufactured the equipment used in the system?

According to how the system performs, it is significantly better than anything you have in service.


Brainless in 2016 isn't an ideal way to start the year.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1

FYI i said developed NOT manufactured.

mzilakazi:


Liar we procured 40 units.

Show us proof of delivery
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jln115:



The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1

FYI i said developed NOT manufactured.

Liar, your source says designed NOT developed, you fvcing envious liar!

Useless argument about the use of English language. Face military facts, we have Eagle C2 and is 100 times more powerful than your Chaka C2
.

agaugust:


Did the story say that Nigerian army general manufactured the equipment? Does he have a factory to manufacture the TV screen, telephone, computers, network routers, power supply batteries, communication antenna, data CPU, and he built the Toyota vehicle by himself too etc ?

He designed the set up, be constructed the arrangement, he decided what was needed and got manufacturers to supply the parts, he probable assembled them into the vehicle. He likely is a highly trained super engineer and a black genius....NO ZULU OR COLORED SANDF OFFICER HAS THAT TYPE OF BRAIN, the whole of South Africa has to be spoon fed their breakfast by Europe, reason why your tactical data link failed, Europe refused to help you as they usually do, to build data link , they refused to transfer the technology, Southie engineers struggled for over 10 years, yet they only managed to produce INTERCOM instead of TDL tactical data link that can work from Submarine to Ship to jet fighter to helicopter to artillery to tanks....

I have always warned you Southies that your so called advanced local defence industry is 80% European made, and the day those white masters pull the lug out, South African defence industry will be reduced to Burundi level
.

So many words, yet so little substance.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1

If he is able to single-handedly develop a C2 system thats better than Chaka C2, THEN he wouldn't be working for your low paying Army.

Lastly LinkZA is fully operable, as proved by your own source.

#novalidargument #ResorttoRacism

jln115:

Prove that the other 3 were not delivered.

In purchasing and supply, there is nothing called proof of non-delivery, what exists worldwide is proof of delivery.

You made the first claim of having 4 Chakas without posting any source of delivery, so show us PROOF that more was delivered.

SANDF ordered 238 Badgers IFVs, but only 5 Badgers delivered, so we DO NOT believe you until you give proof of the claim you made.

First to make claim,first to provide source to prove claim,burden of proof is on YOU, until then, SANDF has ONLY ONE CHAKA C2
.

jln115:



The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1

FYI i said developed NOT manufactured.

"the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close
monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real
time information from strategic level to operational and
tactical levels."



Provide me a South-African system that comprehensively does this?

agaugust:


Liar, your source says designed NOT developed, you fvcing envious liar!

Useless argument about the use of English language. Face military facts, we have Eagle C2 and is 100 times more powerful than your Chaka C2
.

"designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army."

Henry240:


"the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close
monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real
time information from strategic level to operational and
tactical levels."



Provide me a South-African system that comprehensively does this?

Chaka C2

jln115:

So many words, yet so little substance.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1

If he is able to single-handedly develop a C2 system thats better than Chaka C2, THEN he wouldn't be working for your low paying Army.

Lastly LinkZA is fully operable, as proved by your own source.

#novalidargument #ResorttoRacism

LinkZA is operable as an INTERCOM according to South African reliable sources.

You know NOTHING about him and his work/career/training/contract as an army general.

Nobody cares who designed whatever. Nigeria has Eagle C2 and it's choking y.ou with ENVY
.

jln115:


"designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army."

Black genius, NO black or colored military officer in the whole of South Africa can match him ! Not even your SANDF,SAN,SAAF chiefs of staff

#BUTT HURT

jln115:
Chaka C2

On a brigade level, you do not have any.

Henry240:


On a brigade level, you do not have any.

4X 5000= 20000 = a Division

Remember all systems can be Linked through LinkZA.

Also the fact that it is Brigade and below, means that it is much easier to manage for Brigadier Generals, colonels, Captains ect....Commanding a Brigade,Battalion,Company ect ect.

agaugust:


Black genius, NO black or colored military officer in the whole of South Africa can match him ! Not even your SANDF,SAN,SAAF chiefs of staff

#BUTT HURT

Why would i be butthurt when basic Logic tells me its literally impossible for an Army General to design a sophisticated C2 system even remotely comparable to something like the ChakaC2.

agaugust:


LinkZA is operable as an INTERCOM according to South African reliable sources.

You know NOTHING about him and his work/career/training/contract as an army general.

Nobody cares who designed whatever. Nigeria has Eagle C2 and it's choking y.ou with ENVY
.

Nope YOUR own source states it fully operable and all the initial glitches have been rectified.

I don't have to know him, the fact that his an Army General proves his incapable of designing a world class C2 system

Actually people do care who designed what, hence the fact that systems that are designed for example by Thales or SAAB are better than others.

jln115:

4X 5000= 20000 = a Division

Remember all systems can be Linked through LinkZA.

Also the fact that it is Brigade and below, means that it is much easier to manage for Brigadier Generals, colonels, Captains ect....Commanding a Brigade,Battalion,Company ect ect.

SANDF has ONLY ONE Chaka C2 until proved otherwise. Your max capacity remains 5,000 troops....Brigade level.

Finito !!!

jln115:


Nope YOUR own source states it fully operable and all the initial glitches have been rectified.

I don't have to know him, the fact that his an Army General proves his incapable of designing a world class C2 system

Actually people do care who designed what, hence the fact that systems that are designed for example by Thales or SAAB are better than others.

Liar from the womb ! Quote where the source says your DISAPPOINTING LinkZa failures have been fully rectified. Liar, that is how you all go to the other photo thread and mess up the place with lies, making Africans look like chronic liars to the rest of the world. You South Africans are a disgrace to this continent.

agaugust:


Liar, your source says designed NOT developed, you fvcing envious liar!

Useless argument about the use of English language. Face military facts, we have Eagle C2 and is 100 times more powerful than your Chaka C2
.

Which military facts can you provide us that state it is 100X more powerfull?

agaugust:


[s]In purchasing and supply, there is nothing called proof of non-delivery, what exists worldwide is proof of delivery.

You made the first claim of having 4 Chakas without posting any source of delivery, so show us PROOF that more was delivered.

SANDF ordered 238 Badgers IFVs, but only 5 Badgers delivered, so we DO NOT believe you until you give proof of the claim you made.

First to make claim,first to provide source to prove claim,burden of proof is on YOU, until then, SANDF has ONLY ONE CHAKA C2[/s]
.

4 Chaka systems orderd.

Sources provided.

I am not going to engage in pointless arguments

Henry240:


"the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close
monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real
time information from strategic level to operational and
tactical levels."



Provide me a South-African system that comprehensively does this?

Chaka C2, LinkZA, SAAF APDS

agaugust:


[s]LinkZA is operable as an INTERCOM according to South African reliable sources.

You know NOTHING about him and his work/career/training/contract as an army general.

Nobody cares who designed whatever. Nigeria has Eagle C2 and it's choking y.ou with ENVY[/s]
.

1. Who says it operates like an intercom?

2. So one Nigerian Army General is better than all the engineers at SAAB-Grintek?

Why would we be jealous of a system we know nothing about?

agaugust:

[s]
Black genius, NO black or colored military officer in the whole of South Africa can match him ! Not even your SANDF,SAN,SAAF chiefs of staff

#BUTT HURT [/s]

Provide technical data to prove this.

Until you do your words are empty and meaningless

The only butthurt one here is you whom has to grasp at straws to try to match LinkZA+Chaka+APDS

Henry240:


On a brigade level, you do not have any.

Chaka operates at the brigade level.

Chaka intergrates via linkZA and is commanded from J-OPS for divisional level.

Again, I dont think you Nigerians are grasping what net-centric warfare is.

agaugust:

[s]
SANDF has ONLY ONE Chaka C2 until proved otherwise. Your max capacity remains 5,000 troops....Brigade level.

Finito !!![/s]

Orders have been proven.

Stop making pointless arguments

agaugust:


[s]Liar from the womb ! Quote where the source says your DISAPPOINTING LinkZa failures have been fully rectified. Liar, that is how you all go to the other photo thread and mess up the place with lies, making Africans look like chronic liars to the rest of the world. You South Africans are a disgrace to this continent.[/s]

Sources for its use as well as the use of Chaka at Soccer World cup have been provided.

Do you know what would be great? if you accepted the sources we provide so that we could have good arguments.

You are destroying this thread with your mindless arguments.

Please stop.