agaugust:


Liar, your sources only names Ingwe missile made by DENEL.

South Africa does NOT make any aircraft rocket pods, even THIZA cannot find one to show us. SAAF imports rocket pods from Belgium, but Nigeria makes our own rocket pods.....something you cannot do !!!!

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Links have been posted

Not our problem if you dont read them

agaugust:


Bwahahaa, your photo is the same type of Russian Mi-24 Hinds rocket pods that Libyan rebels stole from Ghadaffi's air force base !!!!!!

You are copy pasting random photos from free internet


Those are NOT made in South Africa.....they are imported Russian made rocket pods....LOL show us a source that tells us the name of tbe pods or shows SANDF using them, and the name of the manufactiring company.......fake pics for fake claims !!!
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Source has been posted

agaugust:


That plain brown single colour uniform and old whitemen with retired old FN-FAL rifles are CLEARLY APARTHEID ERA special forces you fool !!!
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No they dont.

SAPS-STF and Recces still make them wear those uniforms and train with those guns.

agaugust:


No wonder your men cannot fight war, you dance while other countries fight wars.

In Nigeria we manufacture rocket pods, and we use them in combat, not for dancing.

SA does not manufacture rocket pods for aircraft, NIG does it, and we can sell to you !!!
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Why would we buy obsolete equipment that we dont use?

You really think that we can make the latest generation of missile and not make a simple rocket pod?

You know we make MRLS systems right?

agaugust:


Your Oryx and Rooivalk uses them, but you import while we manufacture.

No jets use them.

Production stopped because it was not economical anymore.

Again, we make the latest gen of guided rockets.

You think we cannot make rocket pods? Seriously?

This is nothing but you trying to make a mountain out of mole-hill and cover up for the massive faulre of your military industrial complex and its 40 year old ammunition

agaugust:


Made in Belgium rocket pods. Show me the rocket pods made in South Africa, or else you can come buy made in Nigeria rocket pods.

So you seriously believe we cannot make rocket pods?

Seriously?

agaugust:

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What fully? Name the South African company that has manufacturing plant to produc Russian 23mm ZSU cannon and Russian rocket pods for Super Hind.....name it and prove it liar ! Even THIZA and Saengine have given up on the fact that South Africa does NOT make aircraft rocket pods like Nigeria produces. Stop lying and move forward, why must you try to prove you do what you do not do? Only you must do all things? Stop lying and accept facts as they are anx let this forum move to another topic.[/s]

This coming from the guy who spent weeks trying to tell us that air at altitude is more dense?

The same guy who argued for weeks about the speed of a falling bomb even when we posted a source here for all to see?

Go on, keep talking about the pride of nigeria - some tubes welded together

Patchesagain:

No jets use them.
Production stopped because it was not economical anymore.
Again, we make the latest gen of guided rockets.
You think we cannot make rocket pods? Seriously?
This is nothing but you trying to make a mountain out of mole-hill and cover up for the massive faulre of your military industrial complex and its 40 year old ammunition

Bwahahahahaha… these Nigerian fools

@AUGUSTUS YOU HAVE CROSSED ALL LINES OF NORMAL DEBATES AND DISCUSSIONS. YOUR DEFENCE OF UNDEFENCELESS ARGUMENTS LEAVES A LOT TO B DESIRED IN RELATION TO YOUR ANALYSIS AND THINKING.

NIGERIA IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND COMPARING IT TO SOUTH AFRICA INDICATES YOUR SHALLOWNESS IN REASONING AND COMPARISON. SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE FORGED IN BATTLES AND PICTURES ARE NOT OLDER THAN 3 YEARS. TRAINING WITH OLD FN RIFLES STILL CONTINUES TODAY.

THE MISTAKE YOU THOUGHT YOU ARE A SPECIALIST REGARDING SOUTH AFRICA, HOWEVER A DUMP SQUIP WITH NO KNOWLEDGE ON MILITARY MATTERS....ANYWAY YOU ARE PRAISE SINGER SINGING FOR HIS SUPPER. THE MORE YOU TRY TO BRING DOWN OUR ARGUMENTS EXPOSES YOUR EMPTY RHETORIC.

THE QUESTION HAS AND STILL IS WHAT DOES NIGERIA INVENTED....BOOSTING ABOUT JOINT VENTURE ABOUT RUSSIA, CHINA OR USA PROVES THE POINT THAT NIGERIA CANNOT AND WILL NOT INVENT ANYTHING AND HAS NEVER INVENTED ANYTHING...BESIDES BOKO HARAM NO COMABT EXPERIANCE WORTH WRITING ABOUT.

SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE TASK FORCE.....WHICH YOU DONT HAVE OR ISRAEL WILL COME TO HELP ESTABLISH.....EMPTY HEADS

TRUE A WORLD CLASS MILITARY...BY THE WAY@AUGUSTUS THE FLARES ARE MANUFACTURED IN SOUTH AFRICA NOT IMPORTATION.....ROOIVALK A SOUTH AFRICAN PRODUCT WHERE IS NIGERIAN HELICOPTER.....AND THANX THAT BLACKS HAVE NEVER INVENTED ANYTHING ATLEAST YOU ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR BLACK MIND REASONING.....IT COULD BE APPRECIATED BY HITLER MUMU.

TESTING A NEW ARTILERY SYSTEM SOON TO B AVAILED TO THE SANDF....AGAIN @AUGUSTUS RUBBISH IT BUT COME AND SHOW US THE NIGERIAN PRODUCT

LIW, a division of Denel, South-Africa, completed development work and test firing on their latest version of the G5 155mm towed gun system in 2003. In line with its standard artillery gun nomenclature, this version has been named the G5-52, while the truck mounted version will in future be known as the T5-52.

The biggest change is the addition of a burst loader and a complete projectile handling system. This system comprises an electrically-driven chain rammer which loads both the projectile and the charge in the gun barrel, a projectile magazine which can hold 6 projectiles in 2 layers, and a small crane which can transfer 3 projectiles at a time from a ground pile to the projectile magazine.

This latest development is in line with the South African National Defence force and other potential buyers' requirement for more ergonomic gun designs, and which consider the 47kg 155mm projectile too heavy to be handled by one person during the process of loading. The new system requires no man handling of projectiles. Only the charge, much lighter at 17kg, has to be placed manually on the loading tray, from where it is automatically pushed into the barrel chamber.

A unique feature of the system is that a firing mission can be started with one round in the barrel, one on the loading tray, 6 in the magazine and 3 on the crane. A total of 11 rounds can therefore be fired without any manipulation of ammunition, which is a world first for a towed gun system.

A firing rate of 6 rounds per minute can easily be achieved with the top charge at all elevations. With the fully integrated command system and automatic laying system, MRSI (multiple round simultaneous impact) missions can be conducted with minimum operator assistance.

The T5-52 truck mounted gun-howitzer was developed by Denel Land Systems. First prototype of this artillery system was revealed in 2002. It is a South African counterpart to the French Caesar truck-mounted howitzer, developed to meet the potential requirements of India. Development of this artillery system is completed, however there were no confirmed sales.

The T5 was previously dubbed the Condor and was armed with a 155-mm / L45 weapon. The second model, the T5-52, utilizes the G5-2000 towed howitzer top carriage. This artillery system is compatible with standard NATO 155-mm ammunition. Projectiles are fed automatically onto the rammer tray from the magazine. Charge loading is semi-automatic.

Maximum range of fire is 42.5 km with rocket assisted projectile and 55 km with V-LAP or velocity enhanced projectile, developed by Denel. The T5-52 is capable of MRSI or multiple round simultaneous impact firing. It can fire up to six rounds to hit the target simultaneously. This artillery system can fire in 360° arc, however it has to return to the 80° arc to simplify the loading process. Normally the T5-52 fires backward in relation to the vehicle. This artillery system fires forward only in case of emergency. Vehicle also has a direct firing capability.

The T5-52 has an operating crew of four and additional four crew members to prepare and supply the ammunition. A crew of four can bring the gun into or out of action within 60 seconds.

The T5-52 is mounted on the modified 8x8 Tatra T815 WN truck chassis. This truck is manufactured in India under license. Vehicle is powered by a turbocharged diesel engine, developing 355 hp. To provide a more stable firing platform, this truck has three stabilizer blades. Cab of this artillery system is unarmored, however protection against 5.56-mm rounds can be fitted as an option.

The Denel Stryker LAV III 105 mm howitzer can directly fire three shells through the same hole.

This remarkable degree of accuracy was achieved when the latest version of DLS’s 105mm Stryker was recently tested at the Alkantpan testing range in the Northern Cape. The Stryker LAV III LSPH (Light Self-propelled Howitzer) differs from previous versions in that it can now be serviced by a crew rather than being remotely fired.

Stephan Burger the CEO of Denel Land Systems (DLS) says the firing tests were witnessed by members of the SA Defence community. The tests underline the world-class characteristics of the gun and the quality of the engineering team responsible for its development, says Burger.

The 105-mm Stryker is a joint project between DLS, General Dynamic Systems and Rheinmetall Denel Munitions – another subsidiary of Denel, South Africa’s largest manufacturer of defence products.
Research and Development work on the system started in the 1990’s when a Denel/Armscor project team was set the task to produce 155mm, 39 calibre Artillery range, accuracy and lethality from a 105mm system. The end product was an artillery piece with the weight of a 105mm howitzer, but the range and terminal performance of a 155mm System -- with better precision.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/august_2011_news_defense_army_military_industry_uk/denel_stryker_lav_iii_105_mm_howitzer_can_directly_fire_three_shells_through_the_same_hole_0908113.html

@AUGUSTUS COME AND DEMONSTRATE YOUR ANGER FOR BEING A FAILURE IN LIFE AND COMING FROM A FAILED STATE WITHIN A STRUGGLING CONTINENT....YOU ARE SO BITTER WITH SOUTH AFRICAN ACHIEVEMENTS AND CANNOT EVEN HIDE IT.....REMEMBER THE BEST FORM OF DEFENCE FOR BEING IGNORANT IS ARROGANT.

NIGERIA WHAT CAN IT OFFER THE WORLD.....

Nigeria is the giant of africa in population not in productive human resources and endeavours. The greatest joke of nigerians is that in that absulute miseries and gross moral decadence,they still think they worth something. The taste of the pudding is in the eating peeps.

RSA please understand Nigerians overbloated egos because of outdated achievements does not allow them to realize they are approaching complete blindness while pointing out the specs in others eyes. They don't even know how to take a challenge or constructive criticism.

You're calling south africa 'aids infested',how many people in Nigeria don't have aids? If they say,south africa is better,accept it cos it is in every way. You complain about crime, go to ajegunle and start flaunting your phone.come back and tell me what happens.

MY dear brothers and sisters, the very fact that a lot of you are angry is proof enough that Nigeria is no longer the Giant of Africa. If Nigeria were still the Giant of Africa, it would be incontrovertible and there would be no need to argue in her defense. Assume that some said that China is God's Own Country or North Korea is the Land of the Free, then most, if not all, Americans would laugh because of the absurdity of such a claim. It is good to be patriotic, but better to be realistic.

Some facts look at Naija's power generation output which is 3800MGW for 150 million people, while RSA generates over 40,000MGW f45 million people.

JOINT TRAINING BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES (GREEN ATTIRE) AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN MARINE CORE (BLUE)

MARINE CORE

mzilakazi:


Dummy, SA does not fit Russian weapons on the hind even though you can still fit them if you want. But the.prefare SA made weapon system.


Like I told you we don't call the journalist and President when we make rocket pods because to us is just a norm.

South Africa does NOT make rocket pods. Nigeria makes rocket pods. We bëat you on that.

Case Closed !!!!
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Patchesagain:


So jealous

Of what? Your A-Darter missle that Brazil built for you after DENEL got stuck for 5 years unable to do it because you lack such level of missile technology?

Jealous of what?/A country that CANNOT produce rocket pods for its air force?

Bullshïït !!!

Patchesagain:


Guided missiles > Rocket pods

Nope.

Guided missiles can be jammed by counter measures or deceived by decoys and chaff.

Rocket pods CANNOT be jammed, stopped, or deceived by anything....and Nigeria produces this unstoppable rocket pods.

We beät yöu on this one, and its hurting every South African
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Patchesagain:


South Africa builds armored IPV's... we sell them to you

1. Nigerian navy does NOT have any made in South Africa vessel. You sold an unarmed boat to a private commercial company.

2. South Africa does NOT produce armoured sea IPV , Nigeria makes them at Proforce and other companies.

We beäting you on another defence product
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Patchesagain:


Who says we cant make them?

Why would we make something we dont use?

SAAF has moved beyond unguided rockets for jets. Its 2015, its the era of the PGM

SAAF uses unguided rocket pods on your Rooivalk helicopter and Oryx helicopter....You have NOT moved beyond rocket pods....you still import them from Belgium, but Nigeria manufactures them and we will export to you if you have money to pay
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Patchesagain:


And your army was so useless you had to get SOuth Africa/Russia/Isreal to train them for you

And your army is so useless it CANNOT defeat Rhino poachers and CANNOT secure your own homeland borders from invading gunmen, robbers, assasins, weapons smugglers, etc in a modern day 2016, your army CANNOT defeat the simplest threats in your own backyard.....and your army is so useless that Tanzania had to command SANDF in battle in Congo DRC.

Shame !!!!

Patchesagain:


No they dont.

SAPS-STF and Recces still make them wear those uniforms and train with those guns.

Hey liar, we all know apartheid era SADF special forces when we see them, old retired FN-FAL rifles and NO body armour protection.....1970s vintage white man special forces.

Show us current Zulu Bantu special forces IN A BATTLEFIELD FIGHTING REAL WAR like Nigerian SF, not your hoywood demo photos
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Patchesagain:


So you seriously believe we cannot make rocket pods?

Seriously?

Yes, seriously.

Thiza:
TESTING A NEW ARTILERY SYSTEM SOON TO B AVAILED TO THE SANDF....AGAIN @AUGUSTUS RUBBISH IT BUT COME AND SHOW US THE NIGERIAN PRODUCT

1. Show us South African made AIRCRAFT ROCKET POD

2. Show us South African made FOLDING FIN AIR TO GROUND ROCKET

3.Show us South African made INFANTRY PORTABLE UAV/DRONE

4.Show us South African made SPY BALLOON

6. Show us South African made ARMOURED FAST PATROL BOAT

7. Show us South African made 32 TROOP PLATOON CARRIER ARMOURED VEHICLE

8.Show us South African made SPACE SATELLITE

Each country produces what it needs or wants to produce at home, ALL countries import the rest
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agaugust:


1. Show us South African made AIRCRAFT ROCKET POD

2.Show us South African made INFANTRY PORTABLE UAV/DRONE

3.Show us South African made SPY BALLOON

4. Show us South African made ARMOURED FAST PATROL BOATS

5.Show us South African made SPACE SATELLITE
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South Africa has made all that. All space statellite lauched except military grade satellite were all made in SA. Even SA school girls built their own space satellite.

http://mini.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/sa-schoolgirls-build-launch-satellite-1969365


ATE makes guided pods as well as rocket pods. Not a big deal in SA and we don't call news conference when we develop them.

Spy balloon is not viable and I don't see why there should be so much talks about it. It is just a waste of time and is normally used as a close gap.

South Africa makes boats and Nigeria is as well our customer in that field. They have come all the way to.place orders down here in Mzansi.

Lastly, South Africa makes lot of UAVs and has 100 year experience in that field. It is not a new comer. Thank you.

In South Africa even civilians own portable drones manufactured in South Africa. Not a big deal and we don't call news conference for it.

South Africa re-elected in Peace and Security Council of AU. The President is pleased with SA seat.

http://mini.iol.co.za/news/africa/zuma-pleased-with-sa-s-seat-on-au-psc-1977533

mzilakazi:



South Africa has made all that. All space statellite lauched except military grade satellite were all made in SA. Even SA school girls built their own space satellite.

http://mini.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/sa-schoolgirls-build-launch-satellite-1969365


ATE makes guided pods as well as rocket pods. Not a big deal in SA and we don't call news conference when we develop them.

Spy balloon is not viable and I don't see why there should be so much talks about it. It is just a waste of time and is normally used as a close gap.

South Africa makes boats and Nigeria is as well our customer in that field. They have come all the way to.place orders down here in Mzansi.

Lastly, South Africa makes lot of UAVs and has 100 year experience in that field. It is not a new comer. Thank you.

Lies !!! Lies !!! Lies !!!

South Africa does NOT make aircraft rocket pods, infantry portable drones, armoured IPV, etc. Nigeria produces them aplenty.

LOL....South African school girls produce satellite? Why did South Africa go import satellite from Russia then ? Fool !

Did you read your source? What is the size of that school girls satellite? Your report says it was NOT launched into space, it was launched into the sky and had no rocket, LOL....it was carried by a balloon, does balloon launch satellite into space orbit ? Zulu-Bantu fool !

I think we have shocked you guys so much with Nigeria's own defence products which are exactly the ones South Africa dos NOT produce....so shocked that you guys have your brains disoriented....
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mzilakazi:
In South Africa even civilians own portable drones manufactured in South Africa. Not a big deal and we don't call news conference for it.

You cannot call conference for it because you do not have it in SANDF ! What will you show if you call conference? You have no portable drone !

Nigeria produces them aplenty, we can export to you.

American/European military are now rapidly deploying spy balloons to war zones, you say it is not viable just because South Africa does not have it or produce it....LOL....

Everything you don't have is not important according to you, well everything you too have that we don't have is not important too.

Agaugust is Cheating, REMOEYE-006 is proudly made in Korea.

Bwahahaha…

http://en.ruvsa.com/catalog/remoeye_006/