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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by nasiest(m): 1:38pm On Jan 29, 2016
No be the mumu graduates wey go for the stupid intenship program

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 1:39pm On Jan 29, 2016
DgRaNdShErifF:


I am astoundingly nonplussed on how you used the words "Nigerian graduates" so loosely when you happen to be one.

I'm afraid you are a big disgrace to the universe.

What would have been more acceptable words? I'd like to know. Learning never ends.

Nonplussed sounds so smooth. New one to my vocabulary.

As for disgrace....well.. LOL to that

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Kelklein(m): 1:41pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:


1. Telling you i have a 2:2 is to serve as motivation for people with that class of grade. There is hope for them. Not sure how you are viewing it.
2. A company looking for only ready made graduates will never give a cleaner a chance. So i think our company ethic deserves some credit for that.
3. Are you sure you are fine? You seem to have so much bile to spill. Im genuinely concerned for angry people. cry
yes I'm angry... that is exactly what I want you to notice


I'm angry at you and your likes who keep pissing at Nigerian graduates and telling them it's raining.

and for your information...I graduated top of my class and gainfully employed with the FG
but that doesn't mean I'd look down on those not so privileged like they wish it for themselves

we are all victims of a very bad system

+ all my post are always in red..get that!

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by PubLlcEnemy(m): 1:41pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:


You should win an OSCAR for MR ASSUMER OF THE YEAR. LOL. Never seen anyone that assumes so much. Whew. Im done with you. smiley

Ofcourse ur done with me. U know am telling the truth.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by atama27(m): 1:41pm On Jan 29, 2016
@O.P, I wasn't expecting you to respond to all the comments about your post because I believe your "Multinational Coy" will keep you busy, but since you did, Kindly Spell out the coy's name and leave us with shame Mr H.R. Manager.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 1:42pm On Jan 29, 2016
Kelklein:

yes I'm angry... that is exactly what I want you to notice


I'm angry at you and you likes who keep pissing at Nigerian graduates and telling them it's raining.

and for your information...I graduated top of my class and gainfully employed with the FG
but that doesn't mean I'd look down on those not so privileged like they wish it for themselves

we are all victims of a very bad system

+ all my post are always in red..get that!

oh i see.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 1:44pm On Jan 29, 2016
atama27:
@O.P, I wasn't expecting you to respond to all the comments about your post because I believe your "Multinational Coy" will keep you busy, but since you did, Kindly Spell out the coy's name and leave us with shame Mr H.R. Manager.

Sorry i cant give out names here. And no im not in HR. The potential person we are to give the job will happen to be under my division and that's simply why i was part of the process. smiley
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by spicyuzo(m): 1:46pm On Jan 29, 2016
No need for the hating and badmouthing.....

That Job was Divinely Ascribed To the Cleaner.


Yes that's the Truth....God has Simply Blessed the cleaner, and we all should accept it in good Faith.

If you doubt, This should clear your doubt.....

1. 6 graduates doesn't in anyway represent a fraction of unemployed graduates in any Nigerian state, yet only this six were lucky enough to reach the interview stage.

2. Another Interviewer may have been sent in-place of this one that requested for the cleaner.....but No.

3.This particular clearner may have been absent today maybe as his off day, but guess what? He was on duty, he may also have had an encounter with the company staff that requested that he be interviewed.

It may not be reasonable enough for us to understand but guess what?

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the Lord.
"As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:8-9


Congratulations To the Cleaner !!!!!

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Elparaiso(m): 2:33pm On Jan 29, 2016
I don't get it tho.
The O.P. Was just trying to point out that some graduates do not take the time to research the company they are about to be interviewed at and all this "reject mail" recipients are bashing him?

OP, please leave them.
I don't know the cause of their stupid anger.
Awon oni iranu.

Learn, you will not learn.
Later you will be commenting on threads about how you spent 25 years at home after NYSC.
Nigerians can do themselves.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by endtimesblog: 2:53pm On Jan 29, 2016
Hmmmm endtime gradaute
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by MadCow1: 2:54pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry





This your story sounds fishy..

On what premise did he decide to give the office cleaner a chance?

Why stop at the cleaner, why not the drivers as well, security and co?


If its true, then this is one of those stranger than fiction type stories.. If its not, pfft!

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 2:55pm On Jan 29, 2016
simple!!!...find a senator or a governor and get your runs clean and secure a job...tired of all this shitty interviews...just employ and freaking train people.... angry angry angry

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by ocheejemb: 2:55pm On Jan 29, 2016
6 graduates do not define the entire cohort you know. I must admit that our tertiary sector leaves a lot to be desired.

monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by SantiCiboura: 2:57pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:


Funny enough there was NO such restriction. I myself had a 2:2 in school, and still got a job with them. So no excuses here.
thank God you are also a Nigerian graduate. i think your company wasn't lucky enough to have employable applicants

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by toprealman: 2:58pm On Jan 29, 2016
So if the foreigner was not around, you guys would not have given the cleaner a chance? Typical Nigerian mentality!
You HR people should also try to think outside the box. I'm not surprised with how those graduates performed though, given how graduates reason here in nairaland.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by braimeddy: 2:58pm On Jan 29, 2016
Op what what the question asked and what was the cleaner's response?
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by ojuolu(m): 2:59pm On Jan 29, 2016
nasiest:
No be the mumu graduates wey go for the stupid intenship program
Are you gainfully employed?

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by tammie24: 2:59pm On Jan 29, 2016
Hmmm
six graduates
and not even educated

how's that possible?
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 29, 2016
dejianu:
hmmm well play... that is how you pple do say, coming in here to write jaguns... So You are an Inyerviewer and you use words like WTF... What is the name of the multinational company you work for, if not GNLD multinational...

train your cleaner and make him serve you more... smh
yeparipa...my belle don't burst ooo
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:02pm On Jan 29, 2016
MadCow1:



This your story sounds fishy..

On what premise did he decide to give the office cleaner a chance?

Why stop at the cleaner, why not the drivers as well, security and co?


If its true, then this is one of those stranger than fiction type stories.. If its not, pfft!

Just out of nowhere to be honest. His exact words were "I always seem him idle and sleeping after his cleaning. He just might have more to offer"
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jan 29, 2016
All liars shall go to hell

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:04pm On Jan 29, 2016
toprealman:
So if the foreigner was not around, you guys would not have given the cleaner a chance? Typical Nigerian mentality!
You HR people should also try to think outside the box. I'm not surprised with how those graduates performed though, given how graduates reason here in nairaland.

Well as i said im not in HR but was simply there as the hired person would work under my division. I do have to admit on the naija mentality part. I learnt a lot today.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by bigtt76(f): 3:04pm On Jan 29, 2016
Well don't blame the graduates. Everyone feels tensed when it comes to such interviews knowing fully well that its you against 5 others. In the process of trying to impress your interviewing panel, you end up fumbling.

Been to such interviews and I was asked what is IP Address ...I just couldn't but Laugh out Loud (LOL) becos it was shocking to me being asked such. I ended up not getting the job though I answered well the questions thrown at me.

The point here is that the 'cleaner' had nothing to lose ...he did not apply, he just got called in but we must give it to him for taking time to learn more about the company he's working for. Most employers would start calling for 1:1/2:1/2:2 as if 3rd class or pass graduates are not humans. Some of them graduated in such class due to errors in their results and not due to lack of knowledge.

I always try to encourage cleaners where I work to take opportunity of the environment and improve themselves. It would be wicked having worked for IBM as a cleaner to end up in Microsoft as a cleaner!

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Djshyne007(m): 3:05pm On Jan 29, 2016
Nice one @OP and kudos to ur company...I remembered few years ago my mother shared something similar to ur story...after all d 'graduates' messed up...it was d company's messenger dat finally got the job cos he was summoned on a trial and asked same questions and he did excellently well...
Nice one wink

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Brunel(m): 3:05pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me make a few things clear.

1. This is NOT gnld or whatever you call it company.
2. I will assume those of you asking for the company name simply want to try and apply, that's fine, but i do not entertain rudeness so i wont mention the name.
3. We have enough resources for proper advertisement including via linkedin but it wasn't used in this case. Everyone interviewed was based on just referrals. It just an internship role so why spend so much on linkedin.
4. 80% of comments i see make me quite saddened as to the mentality of today's youths.

Hello, you shouldn't be saddened because of comments from Nairalanders, most of those who rush to comment and talk down/bully others here are actually jobless and intricately unemployable.
So, don't let this weigh you down, truth is there are millions of Nigerian youths round the world who are excelling from the formal to the informal sector.
Take the good, ignore the bad, advance in your pursuit of happiness.
Cheers.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Okies27(m): 3:05pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



. See why Kanu called naija a zoo. They all messed up, agreed but the OP couldn't state the questions in his post. OP go hug transformer.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by zheroes(m): 3:08pm On Jan 29, 2016
You Guys are funny . Years back I wrote a bank test, out of 470 candidates only about 68 passed, I was invited for interview only to be told am above the desired age. Since then I have been working hard enough to be on my own and make good money where no one will use my age or qualification to discriminate. One thing is certain if its not your company, you will eventually be subjected to: 1. Resignation 2. Retrenchment or 3. Retirement.

A word is enough for the wise...

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by musicwriter(m): 3:09pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry




What you're talking about is an Africa-wide problem, which yourself and everybody else is a victim. It's due to western education which is not fit for the training of an African mindset.

Western education train us to pass exams, instead of teaching us to conceptualize a subject/topic. So, at the end we're just making photocopy of education from Britain and France, instead of learning on our own terms. There's no real education happening anywhere in Africa. Our government even made it worse in Nigeria due to underfunding of education.

Africa is on a looooooong thing.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:09pm On Jan 29, 2016
Brunel:


Hello, you shouldn't be saddened because of comments from Nairalanders, most of those who rush to comment and talk down/bully others here are actually jobless and intricately unemployable.
So, don't let this weigh you down, truth is there are millions of Nigerian youths round the world who are excelling from the formal to the informal sector.
Take the good, ignore the bad, advance in your pursuit of happiness.
Cheers.

Thanks for the words. cool
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by judedwriter(m): 3:11pm On Jan 29, 2016
What do u xpect when u have 5000 graduates srtuggling for 5 jobs most don't qualifa for? All sorts of...
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by philomental: 3:12pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly
educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked
Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.
Naija graduates, please get your shit together.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A "COCK AND BULL" STORY TO ME.

BESIDES YOUR WRITE UP ON THIS POST IS TERRIBLE, for instance you write "im" instead of I'm or I am; also

Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain INSTEAD OF It's taking a lot.... or It is taking a lot....

As the first person singular you are suppose to say "I" but more often you write "i" instead.

Therefore I conclude that if your story is true and you are a graduate too working in "whatever" multi-national you claim, then YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOURSELF TOO.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by me69: 3:12pm On Jan 29, 2016
What do u expect from a graduate? He was taught academic stuffs not to do a specific job.

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