TLAX:


So who is your care taker? Diya Fatimilehin? I will seriously like to be in touch with a caretaker who can deliver so quickly.

My caretaker is my stop gap and if pushed I will get diya involved. To be frank he can only truly handle properties in this area ipaja ayobo and the environment. The likelihood is that I will be speaking to Diya fatimilehin in the next week or so to handle the ajah one.

Caretaker was introduced to me by another landlady who has now become a friend met her while investigating a potential tenant.

Diya Fatimilehin and co have offices in

Yaba - mrs fasan - 08053217387
Island - lettings-08154990432 - mr bakare
lsland - mgt08053214109 - mr fowokan
Agege -

Good morning all

Please can someone tell me the Cost of the foundation on this land below?

Its a standard 4bedroom flat.

Couldn't get full pics from the seller.

Thanks for this very important info

gabbytabby:



My caretaker is my stop gap and if pushed I will get diya involved. To be frank he can only truly handle properties in this area ipaja ayobo and the environment. The likelihood is that I will be speaking to Diya fatimilehin in the next week or so to handle the ajah one.

Caretaker was introduced to me by another landlady who has now become a friend met her while investigating a potential tenant.

Diya Fatimilehin and co have offices in

Yaba - mrs fasan - 08053217387
Island - lettings-08154990432 - mr bakare
lsland - mgt08053214109 - mr fowokan
Agege -

gabbytabby:


I get involved in the letting process and ensure that notices are issued if I suspect that a tenant Is struggling to pay be it rent or service charge. On average the alarm bells start to ring once you start owing service charge close to 3 months.

I am currently owed about 1m. I choose to be a little flexible but they should be paid soon. 1 is already served and the other 2 will be if I don't receive shortly. My caretaker was granted 2 evictions in the last 2 months one is for a friend's house and the tenant was not even owing rent but was really problematic. It got wrapped up in less than a month cost next to nothing.

If I get pushed I now have a real estate firm that are strictly business Diya fatimilehin that am told do the business.

Madam I can't thank you enough. I appreciate the info.

So folks please can anyone recommend a very good aluminium roofer (pro)? My roof style is the type designed to have gutters to channel the water outside. Some how its leaking. Here below is what the building looks like please help a brother out if u know how to fix leaking roofs / gutters or can recommend someone very very good. Please no trial and error o. This is very urgent please.

Thanks all for making me a landlord to be

Madam Gabby,
Please can you share your caretaker details? Has She/he been very effective for you?
I may need their Services.

gabbytabby:



My caretaker is my stop gap and if pushed I will get diya involved. To be frank he can only truly handle properties in this area ipaja ayobo and the environment. The likelihood is that I will be speaking to Diya fatimilehin in the next week or so to handle the ajah one.

Caretaker was introduced to me by another landlady who has now become a friend met her while investigating a potential tenant.

Diya Fatimilehin and co have offices in

Yaba - mrs fasan - 08053217387
Island - lettings-08154990432 - mr bakare
lsland - mgt08053214109 - mr fowokan
Agege -

Oga 3strike. This your 3D na to die for. It looks awesome. Very fine oo.

3strike:
So folks please can anyone recommend a very good aluminium roofer (pro)? My roof style is the type designed to have gutters to channel the water outside. Some how its leaking. Here below is what the building looks like please help a brother out if u know how to fix leaking roofs / gutters or can recommend someone very very good. Please no trial and error o. This is very urgent please.

Thanks all for making me a landlord to be

befto:
Oga 3strike. This your 3D na to die for. It looks awesome. Very fine oo.

Thanks Chief!

This seems very interesting but here is my take on this. As we all know you cannot get approval here in Lagos without Consent or CofO. That much is very clear so this poses a few questions which both parties need to answer. First of all Oga Maverick, you calling/talking to Brabus wife is not the right way to go. I understand your grievances and feel your pain but please let’s try and keep our families sacred. Same goes for Oga Egun. We all know that you come from a good family but please if you have any issues with Oga Brag3 or any member of his family, please settle it with directly.
There is no need for families to be tarnished or threatened by you good members.

Back to the issue at hand. Oga Brabus I have followed a few of your threads with great interest and I, like some others think you are doing a good job but some of your practices need to be questioned.

I, like others are not privy to what transpired between you and Oga Maverick but from what has been mentioned and counter-mentioned plus some of the screenshots and finally your reply here it seems that there has been some miscommunication/misunderstanding as to what the 400k was paid for. Now Oga Maverick insists that this was paid for approval. Something he claims you guaranteed but you on the other hand say that it was not paid for approval but to allow work to carry on uninterrupted on Maverick’s site from our lovely approval people (LASBCA).

So in essence the 400k was never for approval hence no receipts.

Oga Maverick, did you and Brabus meet this guy together? Was this agreed by all parties at the time?

Have you incurred any costs from LASBCA during this time?

Oga Brabus, I seem to recall another client a while back who made the same allegations and you said the same thing that it was not paid for approval but for clearing the way. I am glad you guys were able to settle but this seems like a pattern that needs to be corrected. I may be wrong here and apologies if I am but it seems like you are obtaining these fees on fake pretences of providing approvals which is not a good practice. It’s just fraud. Simple as that.

I am sure you, like others are constantly adapting your business models to suit our ever changing country so I am sure we won’t be hearing anymore of these types of allegations.

In the meantime, as many others have said you need to avoid such bad press by all means. It’s not good for business. You may think that you have a lot of clients on your books so you don’t care but for every bad press you get you are losing a lot of potential clients.
If Maverick knew that this was just to clear the way then sorry Oga Maverick the money is gone and we need to close this matter but if this was indeed paid on the proviso of approval being done then Oga Brabus you need to rightful thing and refund the amount (or some of it) and let this matter be put to bed. As it has been said above the amount is not that much so it should be easy for you guys to come to some amicable agreement.

This is my 50 cents on the matter.

brabus:
I guess since there's no comment so I can fire on.

The Approval Thingy

It's never my thing to get involved in anything documentation especially on projects where I didn't do the designs and drawings.
Everyone (including all engineers in the house) on the island knew how much the LASBCA guys do disturb sites without approvals and detailed representations.
So I clearly explained to my client Mr Maverrick that I'll prefer he get an approval document for the proposed development to avoid issues with the LASBCA guys prior to construction period. I've witnessed the task force operations before and ever since I've vouched not to have anything to do with them again. So, I told him I knew a guy on the island here who can help with securing approvals for the building. He works in the office and blah blah. The client even requested the guys number and they talked.
The first thing the guy told me was that there's no approval for the area by the govt yet but we can still go ahead to start the processing to avoid issues with those boys because they'll definitely come around. The guy said if there's anything or anyone that calls we should inform him and he'll be there to talk to them directly.

Now, when it comes to real approval. There's more to it than eye meets. No one can do the real approval on your behalf because of the processes and the requirements. And more importantly the Governors' consent or CofO. I asked for this details from Mr Maverrick and his response was that the consent was been processed. I can still remember when he visited Naija and I had to quickly drop a document for him at Ikota that he wants to take to Alausa for his consent.

The Big Question - Is the approval fake?

I can't really say Yes here because of the following:

1. The owner knew everything from the onset. No need to prove too much. There's possibility of forgetting some things. But our chat of on the 15th July 2015 on consent been turned back due to land falling on government acquisition and on 22nd July 2015 when LASBCA came to serve contravention order and mark X on the site should buttress the fact that payment was made to the guy to get us clearance while we get the necessary supporting documents to complete the approval. I can remember the discussion then was "Who came to mark X on the site?" "Isn't that what XYZ ought to have sorted?"

2. The built structure was 10m x 33m (6 units of 2 bed flats) but the drawing was scaled down to 10m x 21m (4 units of 2 bed flats) by the owner through his architect to get a lesser figure from the approval guy which is clear to us (Mr Maverrick, myself and the approval guy) all. The approval guy was also saddled with the responsibility of taking
care of any issues that may arise from the officials which he did without fail on both occasions when the officials came visiting.

It's pertinent to note that the client and the approval guy were having direct contact during the period. The only role I played was that I received and paid the money to the guy. And that I received the scaled down plan from the client and printed and handed over to the approval guy.

When the documents were delivered to the client, the approval guy delivered directly to the client and a photocopy was handed to me for site use by the client.

Ever since this issue was raised. The client has been in touch with the guy to the extent that the guy said he'll issue him a cover note or something which I'm really not clear about. That once his other documents are ready, he will complete the process. I told the client why put all the blame on me. We were all on this together. I never do a thing in isolation hence my reason for asking him to let us go to the office and fight dirty with the guy for defrauding us. At least maybe to clear my own name. But deep down, we both knew what was done. The scaled down building plan, the mandate given to the guy to clear up all issues from the boys that may come to disturb and the turned down consent which halts everything.

Let me rest here. If there's any question.

agarawu23:
Good morning all

Please can someone tell me the Cost of the foundation on this land below?

Its a standard 4bedroom flat.

Couldn't get full pics from the seller.

All I know is that I'm totally envious of you folks with low foundation walls

@fyguy, the money paid is meant for approval. The guy agreed to do the approval but he said the client needs to bring in all the necessary supporting documents when they're ready so as to complete the process. Pls don't get me wrong.

The thing is the client want to build and I told him I won't want to have a face off with the government agencies which made me to ask the client to try and tidy up loose ends before moving to site. So in essence, it will mean it's a work in progress and not that nothing has been done and we are building without approval when the Lagos guys comes.

Yes, I realized this may be a bad pattern to follow but what I did was to avert paying huge sum for settlement when you can actually use the same to commence the processing legitimately. The same thing applied to the other guys you mentioned. The Lagos guys went to the site and the client never had to pay anything at the time they visited because I've already asked the guy to take care of it.

Now, coming back to tell me the approval was fake. Alausa has confirmed it fake is not something I can understand. The same guy did the approval for my site at Agungi and I never had issues with the Lagos boys and everything was cleared out when all the processing documents were complete. I can recall a Nairalander building on the same axis with me at Agungi calling to ask for how to go about it. I just forwarded the details of the guy to him and asked them to deal directly.

Now, if the best way to go is to leave all third party operations to client to deal with whoever directly. I think I'll do just that to have my peace. But I'm only acting as a broker between the two parties and more importantly protecting my clients interest while building the structure.

One thing I want the client to be sincere of is this. He knew I did all my best on his project and what made me mad is that he chooses to pick on my innocent self all the time and ran away from the real issues crumbling his project.
Will you ever believe that we spent almost 3 days to do the DPC of a house that's less that 340m²? Why?

The same way I told him about securing approval from the govt, I told him to offset Omo oniles so that we can work without disturbance. But even after paying the Omo oniles the sum of 400k directly by himself through his good friend who helped him purchase the land, the guy still come back at every MINUTE (even seconds) to demand for payments from the client and had to delay work and cause all sort of nuisances. Everybody involved in the payment were just playing games with the client and I told him why should you pay 400k to someone and still end up getting billed another 900k plus for the construction itself. This is insane. Something needs to be done about it. It was at this point that all the territorial powers in the dynasty ganged up against me saying that I am blocking their way. I ensured the client terminate his relationship with that his friend when he came to meet me right in the presence of the same me mavverick to ask for his percentage on the job that I was doing and I told him you can come and collect the job that I owe him nothing.

Too much stories but in all honesty I feel pity that mr Maverrick chose to be played by all the people he associated with and he feel good about it so long they are not related to Brabus.

Lots of accusations here and there. But here's the big question.

1. When material are purchased? Who confirms the quantity?
2. How many occasions did I tell him the granite been supplied to him is not 30 tons that 30 tons truck cannot get to the site?
3. The wood supplier keeps pressurizing him to buy woods to the extent that bamboo for the decking were supplied at lintel stage and I was like why the succumbing to pressure. Has wood become a scarce commodity? Problem starts when materials are kept without on site without a good goal keeper.
4. At a point in time, I got so mad that the man is loosing too much on materials because it's like he was been held down at gun point. I then told him to compare the estimates and confirm it everything is going according to plan. I even went ahead to tell him to recheck the expenses during the foundation stage when we managed the work viz a viz other stages that he managed. That was there any time we went over budget or come back asking for extras/variations?
5. What would mr mavverick have done when the officials came to mark X on the site if there was no prior arrangement? I'm sure we can read that there's no where he can claim to pay twice for the same thing here. Maybe, he will be happy to pay whatever the guy charged him and be happier for it so long it wasn't handled by Brabus. So refund is completely out of it if no money was paid to settle the boys during the period of construction.


As much as DIY is good, if you choose to turn blind eye to good advices, just consider yourself as another Moses leading the Israelites to the promise land. The suppliers will be happier for it.

For those who do not know, sand sells for 9 and 13k for 15 and 20 tons in the mining site. Every other cost is transport, profit and settlements. Isn't it fair enough to look for ways to cut excesses in other to avoid project overrun?

Trouble started looming when mr Maverrick is offshooting his target at every phases and I asked him if you paid the sum of money to me and I come back to you, what will you have done? He said I cannot do it because I'm not a Santa Claus and I told him. Yea, you're right but what he's doing is what I did for 3strike for N10m and we did all that was required of us without asking the client for any dime extra. No accusation of stealing whatsoever. I handled the payment of Omo Onile fee at 3strike site when the boys had turned themselves into militants and we never had to pay any extra till completion of works. If anything is paid to anyone, it'll be after I was gone and I knew that man (3strike), he will not pay any kobo.

Again, let me rest here. Mr mavverick, I'm not your enemy and I'm sure your main enemies will be happy the obstacle is pushed out but I'm happier for it and at the same time feel pity in the sense that you're living with enemies within. Sorry if you misconstrued my actions as a means of exploiting you but I've been there before you, walked the walk and not just talk the talk, so I know how it feels when you are paying too much and getting too little.

In real estates, there's no one to impress!

EgunMogaji:


All I know is that I'm totally envious of you folks with low foundation walls

oko afusa, good evening.

I didn't do the foundation, its a offer to me but I am just considering the cost of the foundation to enable me beat the price of the land.

At mere looking at it and your experience in building, how much do u think the foundation cost.

Well, I might raise the foundation if i win the bid.

[quote author=EgunMogaji post=42480655]

$37 but Hajji it's ridiculously heavy (in a good way) and then I got bored so I looked it up on YouTube. Not sure what to make of this nut jobs because they showed it being defeated in like seconds

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Master-Lock-Magnum-Security-Lock-and-Guarded-Hasp-M736XKADCCSEN/202260772


Well, this sure spells defeat to this lock.
Meanwhile i must commend you for taking the extra step to find this flaw out.

brabus:
@fyguy, the money paid is meant for approval. The guy agreed to do the approval but he said the client needs to bring in all the necessary supporting documents when they're ready so as to complete the process. Pls don't get me wrong.

The thing is the client want to build and I told him I won't want to have a face off with the government agencies which made me to ask the client to try and tidy up loose ends before moving to site. So in essence, it will mean it's a work in progress and not that nothing has been done and we are building without approval when the Lagos guys comes.

Yes, I realized this may be a bad pattern to follow but what I did was to avert paying huge sum for settlement when you can actually use the same to commence the processing legitimately. The same thing applied to the other guys you mentioned. The Lagos guys went to the site and the client never had to pay anything at the time they visited because I've already asked the guy to take care of it.

Now, coming back to tell me the approval was fake. Alausa has confirmed it fake is not something I can understand. The same guy did the approval for my site at Agungi and I never had issues with the Lagos boys and everything was cleared out when all the processing documents were complete. I can recall a Nairalander building on the same axis with me at Agungi calling to ask for how to go about it. I just forwarded the details of the guy to him and asked them to deal directly.

Now, if the best way to go is to leave all third party operations to client to deal with whoever directly. I think I'll do just that to have my peace. But I'm only acting as a broker between the two parties and more importantly protecting my clients interest while building the structure.

One thing I want the client to be sincere of is this. He knew I did all my best on his project and what made me mad is that he chooses to pick on my innocent self all the time and ran away from the real issues crumbling his project.
Will you ever believe that we spent almost 3 days to do the DPC of a house that's less that 340m²? Why?

The same way I told him about securing approval from the govt, I told him to offset Omo oniles so that we can work without disturbance. But even after paying the Omo oniles the sum of 400k directly by himself through his good friend who helped him purchase the land, the guy still come back at every MINUTE (even seconds) to demand for payments from the client and had to delay work and cause all sort of nuisances. Everybody involved in the payment were just playing games with the client and I told him why should you pay 400k to someone and still end up getting billed another 900k plus for the construction itself. This is insane. Something needs to be done about it. It was at this point that all the territorial powers in the dynasty ganged up against me saying that I am blocking their way. I ensured the client terminate his relationship with that his friend when he came to meet me right in the presence of the same me mavverick to ask for his percentage on the job that I was doing and I told him you can come and collect the job that I owe him nothing.

Too much stories but in all honesty I feel pity that mr Maverrick chose to be played by all the people he associated with and he feel good about it so long they are not related to Brabus.

Lots of accusations here and there. But here's the big question.

1. When material are purchased? Who confirms the quantity?
2. How many occasions did I tell him the granite been supplied to him is not 30 tons that 30 tons truck cannot get to the site?
3. The wood supplier keeps pressurizing him to buy woods to the extent that bamboo for the decking were supplied at lintel stage and I was like why the succumbing to pressure. Has wood become a scarce commodity? Problem starts when materials are kept without on site without a good goal keeper.
4. At a point in time, I got so mad that the man is loosing too much on materials because it's like he was been held down at gun point. I then told him to compare the estimates and confirm it everything is going according to plan. I even went ahead to tell him to recheck the expenses during the foundation stage when we managed the work viz a viz other stages that he managed. That was there any time we went over budget or come back asking for extras/variations?
5. What would mr mavverick have done when the officials came to mark X on the site if there was no prior arrangement? I'm sure we can read that there's no where he can claim to pay twice for the same thing here. Maybe, he will be happy to pay whatever the guy charged him and be happier for it so long it wasn't handled by Brabus. So refund is completely out of it if no money was paid to settle the boys during the period of construction.


As much as DIY is good, if you choose to turn blind eye to good advices, just consider yourself as another Moses leading the Israelites to the promise land. The suppliers will be happier for it.

For those who do not know, sand sells for 9 and 13k for 15 and 20 tons in the mining site. Every other cost is transport, profit and settlements. Isn't it fair enough to look for ways to cut excesses in other to avoid project overrun?

Trouble started looming when mr Maverrick is offshooting his target at every phases and I asked him if you paid the sum of money to me and I come back to you, what will you have done? He said I cannot do it because I'm not a Santa Claus and I told him. Yea, you're right but what he's doing is what I did for 3strike for N10m and we did all that was required of us without asking the client for any dime extra. No accusation of stealing whatsoever. I handled the payment of Omo Onile fee at 3strike site when the boys had turned themselves into militants and we never had to pay any extra till completion of works. If anything is paid to anyone, it'll be after I was gone and I knew that man (3strike), he will not pay any kobo.

Again, let me rest here. Mr mavverick, I'm not your enemy and I'm sure your main enemies will be happy the obstacle is pushed out but I'm happier for it and at the same time feel pity in the sense that you're living with enemies within. Sorry if you misconstrued my actions as a means of exploiting you but I've been there before you walked the walk so I know how it feels when you are paying too much and getting too little.

Brabus, admittedly I don't know jack shyte about Nigerias real estate development but my previous advice to you (most likely under my previous self deactivated letter to the NL admins monikers) is that you're big enough to get a council. It doesn't have to be a top flight law firm, it can even be paralegals (not sure if they have those in Nigeria (remember I told you I know nothing ).

I think this will force you to develop a business strategy that will not allow you to participate in schemes knowingly or unknowingly.

Oh we'll build that house for you, but we require:

1) Confirmation that the funds are in place
2) Confirmation that all plans are in place

or a detailed disclaimer is signed before ground breaking that explains who owns what part.

At my job my nick name is "further to". Why? Because whenever I have a verbal agreement with my coworkers and/or clients I always make sure to send an email that says "further to our verbal communication of today here is what we agreed to do.....) that way it removes any he said, she said

I like your resilience and actually that packaging you're accused of, you just need to initiate Brabus v2.

I don't know how to solve the issue at hand though but I wish all parties the best.

PS: You should look into politics.

Uberness:
Well, this sure spells defeat to this lock.
Meanwhile i must commend you for taking the extra step to find this flaw out.

Thanks.

When it comes to security I try to be admittedly over analytical.

They made a few other recommendations on the video that I will research. I have time since I want the compound to be finished before I install the final gate lock as I don't want anyone else but the inner circle to have a copy. Right now there's too much people that have access. And they already lost one key so who knows who has that one.

I'll continue to share my findings on this thread.

@EgunMogaji, I don't play grassroots politics. People who knew me well knew this.

Big names in politics do come to me for support. If I'm lying, e ja mi eyin boys.

Wow

agarawu23:
oko afusa, good evening.

I didn't do the foundation, its a offer to me but I am just considering the cost of the foundation to enable me beat the price of the land.

At mere looking at it and your experience in building, how much do u think the foundation cost.

Well, I might raise the foundation if i win the bid.

Good morning, Baba Onile

It's hard to calculate since we don't have dimensions. If you had dimensions then one can make a calculated guess since we know that blocks are 18 inches.

I'll share the two foundation of my "garages" and tell you the price just as a reference point.

The first two pictures are of the "main garage" 80X50 feet (4,000 square feet) and you're looking at N700,000 (parts and labor). (N350 per block)

The second two pictures are of the "apartment garage" 50X20 feet (1,000 square feet) and you're looking at N180,000 (parts and labor). (N300 per block) (No granite/sharp sand included as I already had those on the ground)

The per block thingie is my own conceived accounting method of gauging pricing for foundation. So if my foundation will take 1000 blocks then I should expect to pay N350,00 for materials and labour, I am the GC of my site.

Please understand that I'm a small boy of finite means, I manage my project from the US - do as much as it;s safe to do, lock the gate and wait till I go home next type of thing, source my supplies directly, employ a bricklayer (not a "builder", building in a village, etc,etc so your mileage may vary, as we say here

KolaShangOne:
Wow

You're late.

And the class agreed that the last person that chimes in get's to buy rounds of beers for everybody, non alcoholic Hennesey for Hajj

I am taking time to digest all these posts and l think we will get somewhere.

Now, Oga Maverick, what is your take on Brabus position viz-a-viz "It was for Approval "BUT", documents were not complete and hence the process got stuck midway due to that. But meanwhile, the Approval guy "converted" the money to PROTECTION FEE, to allow work to go on and he was providing "cover".

The above is my understanding of what Brabus said, correct me (Brabus), if you think l missed it.

So, Maverick, how do you see this response, bearing in mind the discussions that went on back then (Between you, Brabus and the Approval guy) and your knowledge of what took place?

Give us your "understanding" of what transpired please.

We will look at it and see where there was a "diversion of understanding and positions".

Then we can harmonise that diversion and then map out a way forward, which satisfies both parties.


Tnx.

..and thanks Brabus, for taking time out to explain in a very 'open' manner.

EgunMogaji:


Good morning, Baba Onile

It's hard to calculate since we don't have dimensions. If you had dimensions then one can make a calculated guess since we know that blocks are 18 inches.

I'll share the two foundation of my "garages" and tell you the price just as a reference point.

The first two pictures are of the "main garage" 80X50 feet (4,000 square feet) and you're looking at N700,000 (parts and labor). (N350 per block)

The second two pictures are of the "apartment garage" 50X20 feet (1,000 square feet) and you're looking at N180,000 (parts and labor). (N300 per block) (No granite/sharp sand included as I already had those on the ground)

The per block thingie is my own conceived accounting method of gauging pricing for foundation. So if my foundation will take 1000 blocks then I should expect to pay N350,00 for materials and labour, I am the GC of my site.

Please understand that I'm a small boy of finite means, I manage my project from the US - do as much as it;s safe to do, lock the gate and wait till I go home next type of thing, source my supplies directly, employ a bricklayer (not a "builder", building in a village, etc,etc so your mileage may vary, as we say here

en

Mere looking at your project with the amount and the level, I am not sure the work on the land I uploaded is up to 300k cos the foundation is low. Though my plan is to extend the foundation and make it a 6bedroom if my offer is accepted by the owner. (I am not a lover of duplex )

Oga, add one room join your project for me make I come dey collect breeze once once

agarawu23:
en

Mere looking at your project with the amount and the level, I am not sure the work on the land I uploaded is up to 300k cos the foundation is low. Though my plan is to extend the foundation and make it a 6bedroom if my offer is accepted by the owner. (I am not a lover of duplex )

Oga, add one room join your project for me make I come dey collect breeze once once

We have the bolded in common.

There's always room for friends at EgunMogajis garage

If you can manage to get dimensions then I can do a good guestimation for you.

Good luck on the offer.

EgunMogaji:


We have the bolded in common.

There's always room for friends at EgunMogajis garage

If you can manage to get dimensions then I can do a good guestimation for you.

Good luck on the offer.

okay sir

Hopefully I become the owner, I will update you on that.

KolaShangOne:
Wow

no be small wow egbon Kola. otojometa

agarawu23:
Good morning all

Please can someone tell me the Cost of the foundation on this land below?

Its a standard 4bedroom flat.

Couldn't get full pics from the seller.

Location?

@Brabus,

Thanks for the detailed response.

Most of the questions I have to ask have already been asked by the other members so all I can say is that I hope you and Oga Maverick can resolve this in good time.

Also as Egun has alluded to it will be worth looking into having a strong legal team behind your firm to avoid all these misunderstandings.

brabus:
@fyguy, the money paid is meant for approval. The guy agreed to do the approval but he said the client needs to bring in all the necessary supporting documents when they're ready so as to complete the process. Pls don't get me wrong.

The thing is the client want to build and I told him I won't want to have a face off with the government agencies which made me to ask the client to try and tidy up loose ends before moving to site. So in essence, it will mean it's a work in progress and not that nothing has been done and we are building without approval when the Lagos guys comes.

Yes, I realized this may be a bad pattern to follow but what I did was to avert paying huge sum for settlement when you can actually use the same to commence the processing legitimately. The same thing applied to the other guys you mentioned. The Lagos guys went to the site and the client never had to pay anything at the time they visited because I've already asked the guy to take care of it.

Now, coming back to tell me the approval was fake. Alausa has confirmed it fake is not something I can understand. The same guy did the approval for my site at Agungi and I never had issues with the Lagos boys and everything was cleared out when all the processing documents were complete. I can recall a Nairalander building on the same axis with me at Agungi calling to ask for how to go about it. I just forwarded the details of the guy to him and asked them to deal directly.

Now, if the best way to go is to leave all third party operations to client to deal with whoever directly. I think I'll do just that to have my peace. But I'm only acting as a broker between the two parties and more importantly protecting my clients interest while building the structure.

One thing I want the client to be sincere of is this. He knew I did all my best on his project and what made me mad is that he chooses to pick on my innocent self all the time and ran away from the real issues crumbling his project.
Will you ever believe that we spent almost 3 days to do the DPC of a house that's less that 340m²? Why?

The same way I told him about securing approval from the govt, I told him to offset Omo oniles so that we can work without disturbance. But even after paying the Omo oniles the sum of 400k directly by himself through his good friend who helped him purchase the land, the guy still come back at every MINUTE (even seconds) to demand for payments from the client and had to delay work and cause all sort of nuisances. Everybody involved in the payment were just playing games with the client and I told him why should you pay 400k to someone and still end up getting billed another 900k plus for the construction itself. This is insane. Something needs to be done about it. It was at this point that all the territorial powers in the dynasty ganged up against me saying that I am blocking their way. I ensured the client terminate his relationship with that his friend when he came to meet me right in the presence of the same me mavverick to ask for his percentage on the job that I was doing and I told him you can come and collect the job that I owe him nothing.

Too much stories but in all honesty I feel pity that mr Maverrick chose to be played by all the people he associated with and he feel good about it so long they are not related to Brabus.

Lots of accusations here and there. But here's the big question.

1. When material are purchased? Who confirms the quantity?
2. How many occasions did I tell him the granite been supplied to him is not 30 tons that 30 tons truck cannot get to the site?
3. The wood supplier keeps pressurizing him to buy woods to the extent that bamboo for the decking were supplied at lintel stage and I was like why the succumbing to pressure. Has wood become a scarce commodity? Problem starts when materials are kept without on site without a good goal keeper.
4. At a point in time, I got so mad that the man is loosing too much on materials because it's like he was been held down at gun point. I then told him to compare the estimates and confirm it everything is going according to plan. I even went ahead to tell him to recheck the expenses during the foundation stage when we managed the work viz a viz other stages that he managed. That was there any time we went over budget or come back asking for extras/variations?
5. What would mr mavverick have done when the officials came to mark X on the site if there was no prior arrangement? I'm sure we can read that there's no where he can claim to pay twice for the same thing here. Maybe, he will be happy to pay whatever the guy charged him and be happier for it so long it wasn't handled by Brabus. So refund is completely out of it if no money was paid to settle the boys during the period of construction.


As much as DIY is good, if you choose to turn blind eye to good advices, just consider yourself as another Moses leading the Israelites to the promise land. The suppliers will be happier for it.

For those who do not know, sand sells for 9 and 13k for 15 and 20 tons in the mining site. Every other cost is transport, profit and settlements. Isn't it fair enough to look for ways to cut excesses in other to avoid project overrun?

Trouble started looming when mr Maverrick is offshooting his target at every phases and I asked him if you paid the sum of money to me and I come back to you, what will you have done? He said I cannot do it because I'm not a Santa Claus and I told him. Yea, you're right but what he's doing is what I did for 3strike for N10m and we did all that was required of us without asking the client for any dime extra. No accusation of stealing whatsoever. I handled the payment of Omo Onile fee at 3strike site when the boys had turned themselves into militants and we never had to pay any extra till completion of works. If anything is paid to anyone, it'll be after I was gone and I knew that man (3strike), he will not pay any kobo.

Again, let me rest here. Mr mavverick, I'm not your enemy and I'm sure your main enemies will be happy the obstacle is pushed out but I'm happier for it and at the same time feel pity in the sense that you're living with enemies within. Sorry if you misconstrued my actions as a means of exploiting you but I've been there before you, walked the walk and not just talk the talk, so I know how it feels when you are paying too much and getting too little.

In real estates, there's no one to impress!

brabus:
@fyguy, the money paid is meant for approval. The guy agreed to do the approval but he said the client needs to bring in all the necessary supporting documents when they're ready so as to complete the process. Pls don't get me wrong.

The thing is the client want to build and I told him I won't want to have a face off with the government agencies which made me to ask the client to try and tidy up loose ends before moving to site. So in essence, it will mean it's a work in progress and not that nothing has been done and we are building without approval when the Lagos guys comes.

Yes, I realized this may be a bad pattern to follow but what I did was to avert paying huge sum for settlement when you can actually use the same to commence the processing legitimately. The same thing applied to the other guys you mentioned. The Lagos guys went to the site and the client never had to pay anything at the time they visited because I've already asked the guy to take care of it.

Now, coming back to tell me the approval was fake. Alausa has confirmed it fake is not something I can understand. The same guy did the approval for my site at Agungi and I never had issues with the Lagos boys and everything was cleared out when all the processing documents were complete. I can recall a Nairalander building on the same axis with me at Agungi calling to ask for how to go about it. I just forwarded the details of the guy to him and asked them to deal directly.

Let us stick to this "Approval thing" and get it sorted.

All other issues you raised are "self eulogizing" and will not assist us to settle the matter!
We can take those issues later, on a round table.

NOW, LET US SEPARATE THE TRUTH FROM THE HALF-TRUTHS

Concerning the Approval, Brabus earlier explanation implies that:

1.) There was No Approval at all! You said Documents (proof of ownership) was not available from client .....which means Approval can not be processed further. The process has STOPPED. NO APPROVAL.
Infact, you are supposed to provide all those documents, before starting the process so, the process never started....... yet money was collected! WHY! WHY!!

Client should have been told in PLAIN LANGUAGE, "APPROVAL CANNOT BE GRANTED" till you can provide 'proof of ownership" document.
At this point Approval Money should have been RETURNED to the Client. End of Story.

But you did not tell the client that he can get an approval?


2.) The implication of (1) above is that you as the builder, is now facing a situation where you wanted to build but will likely face challenges from Govt Building Regulators! House building may be stopped or even demolished.

3.) You tried to "help" by linking the Client to someone at the Agency, whom you think can......?

Okay, what can the guy do?
What did he promise?
What did you and the guy you recommended, PROMISE THE CLIENT?

Did you promise him an Approval.... or did you promise him a "Protection" while he builds his house?

Between you and Maverick, let us be honest about this part.
-If you knew that the Approval was never going to happen (without client providing the proof of ownership doc), then you should have made it clear that what the guy will be providing is just a "cover shield" to prevent agency guys from stopping the work.

-Did you do that to protect your own contract work from getting grounded.... and to protect client investments indirectly?

or did you actually MISLEAD the Client, into thinking that your link-man is going to provide him with a building approval (despite the lack of vital document)... which you knew from that point, was never going to happen?

So, when you say "you dont understand".... what dont you understand exactly? I think you understand.
Were you "in-league" with the guy, to mislead the client into thinking he was actually getting an Approval?

Ofcourse, Maverick paid 400K, thinking there is "some miracle" that will get him an approval (and believing the lie he was told by the Approval guy), without the very vital proof of ownership document!

Having said the above,
*Maverick got the benefit of his house not being SEALED as is usually the case.
*Maverick got the benefit to continue building his house .... because the guy who misled him, with you as an accomplice, continued to offer protection through out the building process.

On the other hand, can Maverick actually claim he has "no idea" that he is never going to get a Building approval, despite paying such amount? Possibly! In Nigeria, we think "money can buy ANYTHING".
As long as l can pay the Money, l can make it happen.
Well, Maverick has to bear some responsibility for that as well.
You entered a 'one-chance' bus ..........and it never worked-out!

So, we can all see that aside the "opportunistic criminal" at the Approval office, both brabus and Maverick have serious issues to answer for.

In the light of the above, l will suggest what l think is an amicable settlement which give Justice to both parties:

My own suggestion is that:

1.) Brabus repay maverick the sum of #200,000 for misleading Maverick, with his approval guy.

2.) Maverick forfeits the balance sum of #200,000 for walking into such trap, with his eyes open, and for having enjoyed some benefit (protection from sealing of premises, while building without the approval. The guy calls them off his premises.

Since both parties have some responsibility, l think they should both share the burden...and learn from it.

if the house thinks this is a fair position... and if both parties are ready to be honest about the part they both played in the matter, then, let them agree to this settlement....... which l think serves JUSTICE for both parties.

Wetin una talk?

@ Excuzeme, you're still not getting it.

If I've given half truth to Maverrick, why was he processing his governors consent then? Why did he ask if settlement of the boys isn't included in what the agent was supposed to have done when the boys came to mark X on these site? He should have fight me dirty when he saw the X mark after paying such a huge amount instead of asking the soft question. Why did he have to send me the status of the consent? Why did he agree to scale down the building to reduce the processing fees?

I made it clear in my post that it'll be better to commence the approval runnings than to settle boys while knowing fully well that approval will eventually be done whether you liked it or not. So what trap am I setting? Except we see my proposal as not been a good alternative.

What would you have suggest that I do? Wait for the boys to come and ask for their price and settle them. Or just choose to be indifferent?

This is a case of I can hold forte for you while you get your documents together. Maverrick too never knew his consent processing will hit the brick, so how am I supposed to know that he wouldn't be able to produce the documents?

This is a messy situation and the figure we are discussing is not the big deal but we need to clear the air and stop compounding issues.

I understand the self eulogizing part but it's just what it is bro. It actually happened and not made up and I'm sure you'll definitely pick one or two good points from there to connect the dots.

Meanwhile, Mr Maverrick is busy calling my wife since morning while we are here looking for resolve.

And the next thing you'll see are the usual name calling posts. Aren't we supposed to treat matters as matured men?

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My caretaker is my stop gap and if pushed I will get diya involved. To be frank he can only truly handle properties in this area ipaja ayobo and the environment. The likelihood is that I will be speaking to Diya fatimilehin in the next week or so to handle the ajah one.

Caretaker was introduced to me by another landlady who has now become a friend met her while investigating a potential tenant.

Diya Fatimilehin and co have offices in

Yaba - mrs fasan - 08053217387
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Okay Madam Gabby, Thanks for this information. Very useful.