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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 8:05am On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus: Thanks for your matured response, Brabus. I would be SHOCKED that Maverick would/could still be making those calls to Brabus's Wife (l said "would" simply because l am trying to locate the DATE on those calls so l can confirm authoritatively, that they were made over TWO DAYS), after we have initiated this settlement. I note that Maverick has also not commented on the proposal we are working on here. Is it that he is not aware? .... is it that he is not interested in it? I want to make it clear that l am "neutral" in this matter and just want PEACE to reign..... the sort of Peace that is meaningful. Can Maverick please comment on being aware of the proposal (l am sure he read N.Land regularly as well) .... and if true he has been calling Brabus's wife, over those two days (I am giving him the benefit of doubt here). Having said that, l want to make it clear that Brabus is the one involved in this issue............ and NOT his wife! I want to make clear that "Threat" over the phone to her "is NOT NICE", and that is me putting it mildly. I dont want to say more than that, on it, because we are focused on settling matters and extended family members should not be included in the fracas, moreso they were not 'signatory' to the matter. Maverick PLEASE desist on that route, let us seek an amicable solution here. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 8:41am On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus: Brabus, allow me to tackle you on the above: I am aware that "IF", you are processing your "proof of ownership" (C-of-O/Gov's Consent) ..and because you need it to EVEN BEGIN the processing of your Building Approval (Approval wont even start without proof of ownership since no authority wants to give someone a building approval for a land that may belong to someone else ) ... once the Proof of ownership application is in order and has been submitted, the Authority will ISSUE YOU A LETTER stating so, which is used to seek the Building approval. That letter says that your ownership of the said Land is verified and the proof of ownership is under processing (it takes some time to be signed by the Governor) but that letter acts as a substitute and it is ACCEPTABLE for a Building approval. - I have not read where it is written that Maverick brought such a letter (correct me if l am wrong). - You said he sent you "status of the Consent processing? What exactly do you mean by "status", if not the LETTER that they issue, pending completion of processing of the C-of-O - If he had that letter, which should have been attached to his Building approval application, then the application should have been successful. - why did you or the "Approval guy" not demand for the letter? Instead, we hear that the Approval failed due to no 'proof of ownership' .... which you said was 'under processing'? My deduction are that: *Maverick may not be able to even get a C-of-O/Consent on that Land because HE CANT. (i read somewhere in your post where you said the land is on "Govt Acquisition"! Could that be the reason he could not get the LETTER stating that his C-of-O is under processing? * All of you involved, know this ........ or Maverick knew this (and concealed the info from you, while telling you his "proof of ownership" is UNDER PROCESSING..... without bringing forward a letter to show such. As to your first paragraph: Maverick and indeed almost everyone in Lagos, does those things! (Scaling down to meet statutory requirements). Enforcement people will come and mark that "X", once you start development and they cant see a valid building approval. They then give you some days to come to their office and present it, if you have it. If you dont, they seal the place up.... and in very extreme case, they may demolish, after getting a court order!. I never said you are "setting a trap" for him. No! I said you are (maybe) protecting your own contract (since if the place is sealed, your own work also STOPS!) but what you did is also beneficial to the Client, that much we must agree on. It helped the Client to continue building (and you too, to continue your contract), protecting against sealing-up, while the Consent is being processed. But l think the Consent was/is grounded/stuck, ......once the land is on Govt acquisition. The Governor wont sign it. Except you can show me the "status of the Consent" you referred to, which gives you the confidence that the C-of-O is actually being processed in a way that it would be successful. I am saying you knew (correct me with 'proof', if l am wrong) .....you knew or you have an idea that he would never get a "GENUINE building Approval", ....... yet linked him with a fraudulent Agent who was not honest enough to say look, "What you are getting is just a PROTECTION to PREVENT DISTURBANCE, when you are building your house, but except you bring a "proof of ownership", you cant get a GENUINE BUILDING APPROVAL. *That Agent swindled Maverick *You introduced the Agent *Maverick could not produce a Letter of Ownership nor a C-of-O, needed for the Approval Most of the "good things" we are discussing here, were picked from your post so, a lot of good things came out of your post. Maverick is yet to respond. We are all waiting for his response. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 9:13am On Feb 01, 2016 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 9:29am On Feb 01, 2016 |
agarawu23: Calculate current value of land the area plus N250k for the foundation done. At that height they couldn't have used the following: 50 bags of cement 1500 blocks 1/2 ton of 12mm rod 8 loads of filling 1 sharp sand And miscellaneous which shouldn't be more than 400k. So if you divide into 3 and take 2/3, you should have 250k or thereabout. Let them understand your analysis and tell them the other option you have. Buying a land and doing your own foundation to taste without need for remedial work. But if it's distressed sale, use your church mind price am. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akorkor(f): 9:37am On Feb 01, 2016 |
how many block can we use for 3 bedroom flat please? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 9:46am On Feb 01, 2016 |
twinskenny: Oga twinskenny, business conflict will always arise. Also, there will be difference in opinion where two or more people are gathered. Resolution is the key to keeping the properties section family together. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 9:50am On Feb 01, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: Oga EgunMogaji, I agree. But the matters arising haven't been resolved through and through yet. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:58am On Feb 01, 2016 |
KolaShangOne: You re right my brother... 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brag3: 10:58am On Feb 01, 2016 |
Mr Brabus (Bosun) here we are again. The same issues keep following you around. Let me make this clear before I comment on your response. I have nothing whatsoever against you. For all I know you may be a smashing bloke. You may even be the next best thing since sliced bread but what is clear here is that your business practices leave a lot to be desired. You may knowingly and even unknowingly have done this but one thing that is crystal clear for all to see is that you have misled your clients on a number of occasions with false pretences of being able to deliver certain things. Again these could have all been done to get things done (as is the case here in Nigeria) but please bro let’s call a spade a spade and admit there is a pattern here with your clients including myself of such activities. Everyone here is aware of my experience with you on a few issues so no need dredging all that up. I will however say that this approval thing is not new to you. As you may or may not recall we had exactly the same issue with you. Our site in question already had an approval for a certain type of structure but since we wanted to change it you agreed that you can get what is called an amended approval and for this you were paid 220k (no need for screenshot unless you insist). The comments on the bank transfer even state this clearly so our state of mind or expected outcome cannot be disputed. You then provided signed (and somewhat) sealed copies of what we were led to believe were our signed approval (ope oooo). When we realised that this was indeed a fake approval I confronted you via emails and also on here about it and your response was that we did not pay for approval but for clearing the way so that work can continue (your exact words). Obviously we all know now that approval cannot be gotten without Consent or CofO which we did not have at the time so I guess you took advantage of our naivety/ignorance. I know you mentioned a few times that you had to pay some fees to local authorities when they came to site. It could be even possible that you exhausted the 220k to cover these fees. I can neither confirm nor deny this as you never sent us any receipts. I can also say that since we parted company we have had to pay fees to the local authority who disturbed us due to lack of approval. You will recall sometime late last year we spoke to you about this and you said it was not your concern but due to the fact that we had another structure. I even sent you the letter that the authorities brought and you said it was not issue. Fair enough we let it go. I have not contacted you since then as all parties have moved on and made progress in their own ways. I did mention to you a while back that one day you will meet someone who is not ready to back down for you and in Maverick I think you may just have met him. Now, I am not encouraging this drama to go on neither do I condone any threats/calls to your wife but sometimes we seek Justice in different ways when the RED midst comes over us. Oga Maverick please we beg you not to continue down this route. Having said this, this guy deserves some kind of Justice. We can’t all remain silent while people lose out on hard earned money. I am sure 400k will not affect Oga Maverick in any way as we have all seen what he is building and even Brabus always comments on how much money he has spent so far. I think he is driven by the principle of Justice. I am also confident that 400k cannot affect Brabus in any way as he seems to have a good thing going for him so why not settle this matter and let us all move on. And before I forget Happy belated birthday and wedding anniversary brabus: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Arnoldfish(m): 11:05am On Feb 01, 2016 |
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOSS BRABUS...May God continue blessing u brabus: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:59am On Feb 01, 2016 |
Oga brag3, thanks for the birthday wishes. I would normally not like to comment on this issue any more to allow the thread for its intended purpose. But here are few facts to take away on your issue. 1. I came out point blank to tell you that your building wouldn't require approval before I took the project and not after or during the course of the project. So you weren't misled and there was no time you were called back to come and pay any other sum of money for anything even when the officials came, I just called the guy I question to attend to the issue and it was cleared without your involvement. 2. Is there any time I discuss the approvals with you one on one or even the payment required for it? I may have forgotten but whether you believe me or not the fund I requested was not up to half of what you paid. Now, it may not matter what I did with the balance anymore because you paid me and not .... But it is what it is. And if only one can obtain call records from network operators, it would have been a perfect evidence in this case. You're not there so you would never know if I didn't tell you. 3. That approval can't be gotten without C of O or consent isn't something I'll like to discuss here. But I tell you, airin jina ni ai ri abuke okere. Toto se bi owe. Let's leave that part for LAWMA. 4. I didn't deny that fact that I told you that the approval for your new building is not my remit according to my letter on 28/10/2015. Experienced have shown me to learn to say No when you need to say no. 5. There's never a receipt for backdoor operations. Again, thank you for your time. Also as per Maverrick obtaining his money. I don't hold on to what is not mine but I asked a simple question in my posts. What would have done if you were in my shoes? Ask him to go ahead and settle the officials? Or get him to commence his processing and get the approval in process? I've asked him to come with me to the office where they did the stuff. How hard can it be? How hard is it to set up a conference call and get everything recorded to substantiate his claims. He had direct link to the guy even though he's trying hard to convince the guy to say I'm a fraud. That's the reason why Alausa confirmed it fraud and not the office that was right in front of his house that have jurisdiction. I'm sure if the guy had said something of such, we will have seen multiple screenshots. Baba, thanks for you time again. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brag3: 12:15pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Oga Brabus, We wont go on too long with this. The battle has long finished but if you claim that we did not need an approval then I don't understand a) what 187K was paid for (even though the comments on it say for Building Change Order Approval and b) why you furnished us with a fake approval with our architectural drawings ( or is this incorrect)? I always promised not to come on NL for any of your matters. we have moved on so lets leave it here. There will always be claim and counter-claim and we will end up derailing the thread so lets agree to disagree. Apart from you,I and my siblings God definitely knows what transpired between all of us and he will judge us accordingly. brabus: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:23pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
^^^^ A big amen to the last line and I want God to even reward me a billion fold the way treated your project. Let me hear a big amen well wishers 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by venex(f): 1:20pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus: Hi dear, Hebron Gardens Ibeju Lekki with C of O is selling at a fast pace. This estate of the future is conceived to be a model for a serene gated and serviced residential community. The estate provides the appropriate blending for all aspects of interactive human activities which includes residential, commercial, educational, institutional, and recreational, inclusive of services. 400sqm is selling for N2.8m for outright payment. Easy plan (installment): 30% initial deposit of N900,000 balance spread over 10 months @ N210,000(zero interest) 550sqm selling for N3.7M outright payment. Easy plan (installment): 30% initial deposit of N1.2M balance spread over 10 months @ N280,000(zero interest) For more enquires call Veronica on 07063200943 Notable Landmarks in the Neigbhourhood: Greensprings Schools FaraPark, Lekki Lekki Free Zone Lagos Business School Amen Estate Mayfair Gardens Facilities: Good Road Network Recreational Facilities Environmental Security Perimeter fencing with security gate house Motorable road Electricity Good drainage system Ultra modern Borehole Sewage Disposal System Project will be Executed in 3 Phases Phase 1: Land Acquisition Scheme Phase 2: Infrastructure Development Phase 3: Housing Development Sheme This property has the following title(s): Deed of Assignment Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) Gibeon Park, Ikorodu Gibeon Park, Ikorodu Fast selling 648sqm @: Outright Payment of N600,000.00 Flex Plan Payment: 750,000.00 @ 150,000.00 Initial Deposit, spread installmental payment @ 100,000.00 over 6 months. Easy Plan Payment: 850,000.00 @ 50,000.00 spread over 17 months. Instant Allocation= 750,000.00 of total invoice, balance spread for 3 months. Notable Landmarks in thge Neighbourhood Egbin Power Plant The Metro Ferry Jetty Barachel Park & Garden Numerous Estates and Instituion Facilities: Good Road Network Recreational Facilities Environmental Security Perimeter fencing with security gate house Motorable road Electricity Good drainage system Ultra modern Borehole Sewage Disposal System Project will be Executed in 3 Phases Phase 1: Land Acquisition Scheme Phase 2: Infrastructure Development Phase 3: Housing Development Sheme This property has the following title(s): Deed of Assignment Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) Havilah Park & Garden Fast selling @648sqm: Outright Payment of N630,000.00 @10% discount Flex Plan Payment: 700,000.00 @ 100,000.00 Initial Deposit, spread installmental payment @ 30,000.00 over 20 months. Instant Allocation= 50% initial deposit document inclusive & balance spead over 3 months. ** Registered Survey Plan Notable Landmarks in thge Neighbourhood Nestle PLC Chrisland Milenium University Numerous Estates and Instituions Facilities: Good Road Network Recreational Facilities Environmental Security Perimeter fencing with security gate house Motorable road Electricity Good drainage system Ultra modern Borehole Sewage Disposal System Project will be Executed in 3 Phases Phase 1: Land Acquisition Scheme Phase 2: Infrastructure Development Phase 3: Housing Development Scheme This property has the following title(s): Deed of Assignment Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:49pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
venex: Please no advertisements here... Hajji M. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:53pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
@Excuzeme and ALL Others. Excuzeme, you have been real good... and thanks for all the fair proposals . I hope they solve this amicably and out of this thread too.. Peace is the only thing we want here... To ALL Others in this thread, thank you for enduring all the commotions. Everything shall come to end. Let's keep learning about building constructions.. To ALL THE PARTIES involved, I have communicated with some of you, please give PEACE a chance. Settle your disputes amicably and move on to better thing. Thank you ALL. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:16pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus:thank u for this. Though the owner isn't giving me the exact amount he spent to make the foundation but from your breakdown and what I have in mind too, the foundation is BTW 250-300k. Hopefully he can dance to my tune with my offer sha cos it's a good area with people already leaving there. I just pray we shouldn't face financial problem that will make us sell our properties. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:57pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Oga agarawu23, buy make am we wash for hajji's joint o. If the environment is good enough, step up the offer and you'll be happier for it. Make it a WIN-WIN. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 5:17pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus:haa! Na una be oga for here o we na young shall grow so make I no go fetch water for basket Yes! its a good environment and the seller won't stop pressuring me on whatsapp and I am sure the deal will be sealed this week or next. You are one of those I am stalking their thread in this section but e b like say na only billionaires una dey help build 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:31pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
agarawu23: Yeah, you're right. I only build for billionaires and potential billionaires while I am hoping to reach that mile stone myself soon. May God grant all your good wishes. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 5:35pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
brabus:same here Sir. BIG AMEN!!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EndiaSami: 5:45pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
befto: Baba. I Done set alarm clock, mark calendar, dey sip kunu dey wait. Your control number would b needed...buzz please |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 6:20pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
I really don’t want to be trading words with Bosun, but it will be rude if I do not reply to all the good peace seekers comments and totally ignore them. What did I Pay for/made to believe i would get ? Full building approval as Bosun confirmed below, no facilitation payment/bribe. Assessment without any official document, does a bribe come up with calculations like this ? Was I told about any conditions, absolutely not. I was told full approval will come back in a week and I made it clear I dont have a consent yet. What did I get ? A fake approval. So why the lies that an approval was never done. It was only fake, see some of the pages below. The figures on the pages, where are the receipts ?? Did I make other payments to others that came, yes on several occasions, environmental, council, some other group who Opeyemi said if we didn’t pay, they would cause us problems at Alausa. Why all the irrelevant talk ? From Bosun to digress from the matter at hand. As said, will do whatever it takes and I will ensure that Bosun and family are taught a lesson that he will NEVER forget. Excuzeme: 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:30pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
@ Maverrick, thank you for helping me to make my point. 1. You were aware of the Oko Ado issue of no approval. 2. You were aware of the plan to go ahead to do the approval while awaiting your consent which you said it's not ready yet. Remember, I said beautiful that you have a consent in that chat. It means we asked you and you said it is still been processed. 3. I confirmed everything up to your consent number before asking you to make payment. If I didn't do all these then you have a point that you were not made to be aware of any conditions. 4. I even told you of the need for tax id of 3 years. I'm sure if you check your archives very well, you'll find those details. 5. That you paid environmental or local government had absolutely nothing to do with approval except that became a law just yesterday. The man you routed the environmental/local govt money through is someone I knew (he's still alive and not dead) so no need to bring that up. If you check your chat, you'll find the record there. 6. That there's no receipt. Yes, until you arrange to meet the necessary conditions. But let me tell you the approval you have is not a fake. Meet me up at the office. It's that simple. You can never have a receipt yet when all you require to start the processing is not in place. mavverick: Just had to quote the above so that I can add to the ever growing list of threats from you. All these empty threats won't take us anywhere. Last year, you said you're going to Punch and Castles and I was just waiting for the good opportunity to be the next billionaire everyone is waiting for. Go ahead! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:39pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
oga Brabus and oga Maverick, can you meet up at a location or the council office to have this solve? at least the money was paid to someone....its better to meet face to face and solve this amicably... God will surely bless you both if you can do this and move on. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:00pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
@ Maverrick, Just keep making your calls to my wife. Sorry she won't pick up because we already got what we needed from the first call. Today it was 7 missed calls between 8am and 11:20am It's not my duty to expose the fake. In due time they'll expose themselves. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rushtec(m): 9:16pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
SIR Mavverick PLS PLS CALLING ANODA PERSON 4GIV BRABUS 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 10:28pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
expert in the house, pls how many tons of sand is contained in the 6 tyres truck? thanks. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:45pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Barryton: It is alleged to be 10 tons at my site though I'm not there to verify.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 10:52pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Barryton: Where is the picture of the 6-tyre dump truck with the sand? There are different types of 6-tyre trucks and with different capacities. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Slim101(m): 11:36pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
[quote author=mufutau55 post=42443570] Hajji, sorry to bother you but I need help concerning the likable cost (measurement of sheets, woods, types and pricing)of my building which plan I posted below. I knw if I quote u, some others might be willing to help even if u can't. Its urgent as my landlord has issued us quit notice which takes effect from April 30. The building is in Ibadan. Thanks everyone. I hope I'll be able to see the dimensions.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 11:38pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Brabus! If I were u the best things to do is to vex..........I will refund the whole money.Trust me this guy will respect u 400k? What a coins! ---------------- A guy here gave me a project sometimes last year From the onset I knew there will be problem hence reluctant to take it because his brother requested for 700k . But a colleagues who is less busy eager to take it. .He intend to rough it -------- But the project got stuck at the roofing stage and the client came on here to tarnish my hard earned integrity. I was mad and exposed everything. .he was shocked! ...then asked his brother to refund the 700k for us to complete the project(The money wey e don chop ) .......I exposed all then vex help my guy out to roof the funking project. --------- Anyway, that's my own attitude towards money 5 Likes |
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