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Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 9:36am On Feb 01, 2016 |
Prayer is respectful communication between man and God. Christians are free to pray to their God from anywhere, from any direction, in any (respectable) position, at any time of the day or night and they can be assured that their beloved God would listen to them. To insist that you have to face a specific direction to talk to God is an insult to his Almightiness. Psalms 4:1: “When I call, answer me, O my righteous God.” However, whenever Muslims want to pray to Allah, they are commanded to do so at certain specific times, face a specific direction and follow a specific ritual. Surah 2:144: We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces (when ye pray) toward it. (Pickthall) QUESTION : 1.At the time when Allah revealed Surah 2:144 to change the Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca, the Ka’ba was still a pagan shrine housing 360 pagan idols. Why would Allah permit his Prophet to bow towards the Ka’ba while it was still polluted with 360 pagan idols? 2. Why must the prayers of the Muslims be directed towards the pagan shrine in order to reach the ears of Allah? 3. Since the Blackstone was venerated by the pagans during pre-Islamic days, why are Muslims all over the world commanded to face this very pagan Blackstone whenever they pray? 4.If you say it to unify Muslims, why are these very same Muslims who while praying unitedly in Arabic, still fighting and killing each other? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 9:56am On Feb 01, 2016 |
FROM FIFTY TO FIVE DAILY PRAYERS Surah 17:1: “Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, Whose precincts We did bless, – in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He Is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things).” (Yusuf Ali) According to the Qur’an, Allah allegedly took Muhammad on a journey from the Ka’ba in Mecca to the farthest Mosque at Jerusalem. Muslims view Muhammad’s Night Journey with great importance for the reason that this journey determined the Islamic ritual of praying five times a day. In other words, Muhammad’s Night Journey has an impact on the lives of more than a billion Muslims all over the world – five times – each and every day. Allah ORIGINAL plan was for the muslims to have 50 times a day prayers until it was reduce to 5 after muhammed plead. There are twenty-four hours in a day. If Allah’s original plan is for Muslims to pray fifty times a day, Muslims would hardly have sufficient time left for work, sleep or family. Let’s do the maths. If we were to allow just fifteen minutes for each of the fifty prayer rituals along with the ablutions, it will amount to 12.5 hours (15X50 mins.). And this does not include the time it takes to travel to the mosque and back for those who prefer to pray there. However, on Fridays all Muslim males are required to pray at the mosque. A day has only 24 hours. Even going by the very bare minimum, a Muslim is now left with 11 and ½ hours. Most employment requires a person to work at least 8 hours a day on the average. What about the time spent traveling to and fro from work? If we were to deduct an average of just 10 hours for employment, the Muslim is now left with just 1 and ½ hours. And humans need at least 7 or 8 hours of sleep to remain healthy. OUR QUESTION IS: Does not Allah know that there are only 24 hours in a day? Does not Allah know that his worshippers need to work, eat, sleep and care for their families? Why did not Allah know that even going by the bare minimum, Muslims will not be able cope with his absurd demand to pray fifty times a day? Did not Allah know that it would be impossible for Muslims to accomplish this unreasonable command to stop every 28.8 minutes for prayer? Can Allah really then be the all knowing God as you claim? Since a Muslim will have to stop working twice each hour to pray, would any employer, in his right mind, employ a Muslim? Why did not Allah tell Muhammad to pray five times a day in the first place? Does not this show that Moses was much wiser than Allah? Does not this also prove that Moses was more in tune with reality than Allah? How could Moses – a mere human Even the reduced number of five daily prayers at specific times has proven to be counter productive to the economy growth of many Muslim nations. Prayer works through love. In Christianity, there is no such compulsion. God wants heartfelt prayers. Not scripted prayers that are demanded to be expressed in a specific number of times and at certain specific times. There is no such thing as fixed time prayers in Christianity. According to the Bible, a Christian can pray at any time before his God. The Bible prescribes neither the form nor the amount of prayer required of the believer. In the Bible, prayer is always voluntary, never a compulsion, although this does not contradict the fact, that God has told his worshippers to persevere in prayer. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 1:50pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Cc OLAJADON |
Re: Islamic Prayer by true2god: 3:05pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:The saudis have really fooled millions of people worldwide with mohammed's family idol called allahh. Mohammed have to join Jewish prophets into islam so that the Jews can accept his new religion, but when the christians and the Jews rejected his 'prophethood' he declared WAR (quran 9:29). The product of mohammed's excessive ambition is what led to the factionalization of his new religion into the shia and sunnis who have been killing each other for over 1400 years. Only God will end their fight, but their fight is good for us 'infidels'. At least they can engage themselves instead of christians. 5 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 3:12pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
@ OP Good, very good. |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 3:14pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
true2god: Succinct !!! |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 3:33pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
true2god:God bless you my brother, nice one. 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 3:36pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
truthman2012:Good afternoon bro. Read more here https://davidiqbalkarim./2013/08/03/cross-examining-islam-questions-to-ask-muslims/ 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 3:48pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:since olajadon has slept off let me extend my greeting to DeathStroke007 and hockeyoilers malvisguy212: malvisguy212:since olajadon has slept off let me extend my greeting to DeathStroke007 and hockeyoilers 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 5:05pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
[s] true2god: malvisguy212:[/s] Why do y'all kiriyo re.ta.rds always wa.nk on issues that have to do with Islam No one gives a fvck about you but you keep trying to get attention with all these your copy and paste jargons We don't even talk about you lol 2 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by OLAJADON: 5:11pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:malvisguy02 do u know y i like you, u kip enlighten ur christian brothers...HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE WORD "DEDICATION TO SOMETHING SOMEONE OR RELIGION"....a ayat of the quran explains that mankind and jinnkind was created for the purpose of worshipping....WE SHOULD BE THE ONE WORRIED ABOUT OUR RELIGION NOT YOU OR ARE U NOW HAVING A DOUBLE MIND ON UR JESUS AS LORD.... IF NOT THEN RELAX U SHALL HAVD YOUR CRIB IN HELL. A AYAT ALSO EXPLAINS THAT DO NOT DIE EXCEPT BEEN A MUSLIMS BCOZ IF U DID NT JOIN ISLAM D LAST DAY AINT GONNA B EASY FOR U INFACT UR PUNISHMENT WILL START FROM THE GRAVE.....WHAT DID YOUR BIBLE SAYS ABOUT GRAVE PUNISHMENT FOR UNBLIVER OR IS UNBLIVER ALSO GOING TO HEAVEN. 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 5:44pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
OLAJADON: kaakulator4:if you cannot answer questions relating to your belief, how do you conclude that islam is the right religion ? Because the quran say so ? Does it mean that Islamic belief is blind faith ? You muslims are the one who need to be worried concerning judgment, the quran has already revealed your destination , and it is hell. 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 5:48pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Lmaoooo another kiri.yo lunatic on the loose Kiriyo boy you're the one being paranoid not me.If not, you won't be wan.king around,scavenging the whole internet for anti-islamic articles You obviously know you'll be used as kilishi in hell fire 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islamic Prayer by OLAJADON: 5:58pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:which quranic verse proves that .....LOLZ........I SHOULD BE THE ONE WORRIED ABOUT MY TIME FOR SOLAT NOT U...funny dude. |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 6:19pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4: When you find yourself in hell, you will discover your soul is more important than your religion. Smh !!! 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 6:21pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
truthman2012: Really? you sound like your father sent you a telegram from hell. 6 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 6:26pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4: OLAJADON:[quote author=kaakulator4 post=42527192] Is a shame you guys are here without even attempting to refute the op. Keep on making noise. OLAJADON Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that EVERY ONE OF YOU will be taken to HELL.” Surah 19:72: “Then (Thumma) We shall RESCUE those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.” (Pickthall) You only “rescue” someone who is in some kind of danger. However, this RESCUE operation will only take place on “Judgment Day.” Until then, for centuries , pious Muslims will be consumed by fire. Only the dark spots on the skin of their foreheads caused by years of prostration to Allah will escape the effects of the fire. This is Allah’s reward for their faithful prayers to him. Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349: “They (the angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration , for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt …” Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770: ...... Then Allah will come to them again and say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say, ‘You are our Lord.’ Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across HELL AND I (MUHAMMED) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, ‘O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.’ 2 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Scholar8200(m): 6:28pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
OLAJADON:Now that highlighted is coming from one who has created 3 threads which focuses Christianity!!! Bible Condemns Jesus Crucifixion. by OLAJADON: Religion / Bible Condemns Jesus Crucifixion. by OLAJADON. 2 posts & 13 views. 5:59pm (OLAJADON) Religion / What Bible Says About Women In Church (1) by OLAJADON. 61 posts & 307 views. 12:11pm (OLAJADON) He that comes to equity . . . (finish it) However, since you created a thread to answer questions, why not 'pieces' the ones raised? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 6:33pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212 It's not like I can't even refute all the nonsense y'all are fond of posting.I just don't feel the need to.It's not neccessary because deviants will always remain deviants and besides this section is more of a section for insults not neccessarily to pass knowledge.I'm not a scholar but I'm a little bit knowledgeable than your average muslim/muslimah on Islamic matters so it won't take much time for me to refute but even If I do,you won't accept it and you'll retort to insults which is typical of you kiriyos when you're losing arguments.I've been following everything that happens here from the sidelines and I know how things work.What y'all do is attack in multitude and intimidate the person you're debating with 3 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Annunaki(m): 7:33pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4: Unfortunately you and your fellow daft musilm e-jihadists are not able to refute or defend the numerous evils perpetuated by mohamed and justified by his terrible book called the quoran. Bring proof to us that islam is not evil, then we will keep quiet. |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 7:40pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4:I don't think you have any excuse here, if you know the answer to my questions, you would've response on your first post. I don't insult people like you guys do here. |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Rilwayne001: 7:50pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4: Hehehe |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 7:51pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
Annunaki: I'm not here to refute lunat.ics.How many times have they refuted you here.you are an illiterate so there's point doing that.I already told you what I'm here for so no need to shift the goal post.Of all the kiri.yo re.t.ards here, you are the most re.tar.ded I'm not schooling you.I just want to cure your madness.Okay? 3 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 9:22pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4:you are not here to refute the op, but to read and understand ? Alright. |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 10:37pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
kaakulator4: No, it is your allahh that sent you a signal of hell: [Quran 3:185 Pickthal] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. WHOSO IS REMOVED FROM THE FIRE and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion. You are going to hell as soon as you die, waiting to be removed on the Day of Resurrection. It is the decree of your god that all muslims will taste hellfire before the pious will be RESCUED (Qur'an 19:68-72. If you taste hellfire for only an hour, you will curse your birth into this world, talkless of spending indefinite number of years inside it. I pity you. 5 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by Nobody: 11:40pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
truthman2012: Lmaoooo the coward cometh at ungodly hours while I was preparing for next day's work Kiriyo boy, you're morbidly daft! I've told you animals to stop boring me with these repeated lines.I'm hardly impressed.You're all basic.Just copying and pasting the same things the jews used to say during the time of the prophet Is it my fault that your s.en.ile,one-eyed father is currently dancing Azonto in hell? He should've listened Why direct your anger at me? E pain you so tey you go find Quranic verse.IDd1ot boy! You think I'm here to insult christianity? No! I'm here to insult you.That's the new dimension Look! there's nothing i haven't heard from you foo.ls so I'm not expecting anything new. I swear I'll make y'all lives miserable in this section.You haven't seen anything yet.I'm just starting.You just met someone whose Nairaland job is to slap your flat as.ses on a daily basis Tag all your fellow monkeys so I can know the number of monkeys i'm serving. F.U.Ckin Kiriyo oafs 4 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 8:36am On Feb 02, 2016 |
kaakulator4:why are you muslims like to insult people who questions you of your belief ? Do you not known ,when you insult someone, it show that the questions being thrown at you really hit you hard ? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 9:21am On Feb 02, 2016 |
kaakulator4: Taking pride in abuses. It is the character of the slaves of the Devil, allahh. Sorry for you. You are not making any sense. You qualify for a female terrorist. You must have just escaped from sambisa forest. 2 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by truthman2012(m): 9:33am On Feb 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212: What do we expect from people filled with jinns (demons)? A muslim lady spoke on TV saying for every muslim allahh attaches two jinns (demons). This is the reason you can hardly find a well a behaved muslims. They are under the control of evil spirits, jinns/demons. They can abuse, kill and maim, like Muhammad did. I pity them. 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 9:44am On Feb 02, 2016 |
truthman2012:EXACTLY 3 Likes |
Re: Islamic Prayer by maverickboy: 10:22am On Feb 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212:What's this, story or questions? 1 Like |
Re: Islamic Prayer by malvisguy212: 11:15am On Feb 02, 2016 |
maverickboy:No, fairly tale. Does it look like story ? |
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