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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:06pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
DENEL PRODUCTS MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA....BY SOUTH AFRICANS

DENEL PRODUCTS MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA....BY SOUTH AFRICANS AND EUROPEAN IMPORTED COMPONENTS AND ENGINEERS
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:17pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
Is Nigeria ready for an indigenous arms industry?

Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria. The British never forgave Ojukwu for the effrontery to attempt to remove Nigeria from her sphere of influence and he paid for it during the civil war. So if Nigeria must have her arms industry, President Buhari and his planners should take a long-term view of these considerations:

http://ynaija.com/is-nigeria-ready-for-an-indigenous-arms-industry/

"IN a speech during the graduation ceremony at the National Defence College in Abuja on August 8, 2015, President Muhammadu Buhari directed the Ministry of Defence to urgently articulate a proposal for the establishment of a Military Industrial Complex to produce weapons and other equipment for the country’s armed forces and reduce reliance on reluctant foreign suppliers.

Similarly, some fabrication Units at the sprawling Ajaokuta Steel Company could be part of the Complex. The Nigerian Navy Dockyards in Lagos and Port Harcourt, the Nigerian Air Force engineering and research facilities where ‘Gulma,’ the drone was developed, the Nigerian Aluminium Smelting Company and the country’s industrial research institutes, could collectively be brushed up and turned into the nucleus of the launch pad for the Military Industrial Complex."

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/nigerias-proposed-military-industrial-complex/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:40pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
CONCLUSION NO ARMS INDUSTRY OF NOTE EXIST IN NIGERIA EXCEPT A WORKSHOP.......@AUGUSTUS SHOW ME A NIGERIAN COMPANY OF NOTE THAT CAN RIVAL SOUTH AFRICA.

WHETHER WE STEAL AND REENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY FINE AS LONG AS THE WORLD BUYS FROM US.....PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT NOT MISPLACED OPINION.

Nigerian defence industry.

1. DICON
2. AFIT
3. PROFORCE
4. INKAS
5. NIGERDOCK
6. NAVAL DOCKYARD
7. NACE
8. BADEH AEROSPACE
9. NSRDA
10. WEST ATLANTIC SHIPYARD

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:42pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
SOUTH AFRICAN MADE BOMBS AND MISSILES NOT FOREIGN PROCURED

Did South Africa make the Gripen and Hawk jets that carry those bombs and missiles? grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:44pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS WE ARE THE BEST.....AND DONT NEED YOUR ENVY TO DESCRIBE OUR SOUTH AFRICANESS

With your 80% European owned defence industry? Thales, Rheinmetal, SAAB Grintek, BAE grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:48pm On Feb 02, 2016
Thiza:
NIGERIA HAS NOTHING TO OFFER THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA OR THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER


1. Nigeria's new expanded military helicopter maintenance hanger is to serve all willing air forces of West African sub region. Official news.
2. Nigerian naval dockyard 10m to 42m IPVs and MPVs are planned for export to West African navies. Officially announced.
3. Nigeria is exporting Igirigi LAV, our battle tested armoured combat vehicle, to Libya 2016.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:00pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


DENEL PRODUCTS MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA....BY SOUTH AFRICANS AND EUROPEAN IMPORTED COMPONENTS AND ENGINEERS
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Citation needed

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:00pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


Nigerian defence industry.

1. DICON
2. AFIT
3. PROFORCE
4. INKAS
5. NIGERDOCK
6. NAVAL DOCKYARD
7. NACE
8. BADEH AEROSPACE
9. NSRDA
10. WEST ATLANTIC SHIPYARD


Cute

Babies first Defence Companies.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:01pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


Did South Africa make the Gripen and Hawk jets that carry those bombs and missiles? grin grin
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No one said we did and that is not under discussion.

Yet again, you sense defeat and desperatly shift the goalposts

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:01pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


With your 80% European owned defence industry? Thales, Rheinmetal, SAAB Grintek, BAE grin grin
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Citation needed

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:02pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:



1. Nigeria's new expanded military helicopter maintenance hanger is to serve all willing air forces of West African sub region. Official news.
2. Nigerian naval dockyard 10m to 42m IPVs and MPVs are planned for export to West African navies. Officially announced.
3. Nigeria is exporting Igirigi LAV, our battle tested armoured combat vehicle, to Libya 2016.

1. We build helicopters

2. South African shipyards will be producing 100m OPV's

3. Ratel, Casspir, Mbombe, RG-31, RG-33, Marauder, Matador, Mamba etc etc etc
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DonBobes(m): 9:02pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


Did South Africa make the Gripen and Hawk jets that carry those bombs and missiles? grin grin
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Abah, d fools go tell u say na from heaven e fall o. Shege buffoons!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DonBobes(m): 9:04pm On Feb 02, 2016
Patchesagain:


Cute

Babies first Defence Companies.


At least u were proofed wrong, u lazy gutless SA!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:37pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:



1. Nigeria's new expanded military helicopter maintenance hanger is to serve all willing air forces of West African sub region. Official news.
2. Nigerian naval dockyard 10m to 42m IPVs and MPVs are planned for export to West African navies. Officially announced.
3. Nigeria is exporting Igirigi LAV, our battle tested armoured combat vehicle, to Libya 2016.

The ugly Igirigi. A bad knockoff of a bad design, the Streit Cougar. Are you still peddling the lie that the Igirigi is an indigenous Nigerian design? Cause the truth is that all you do is assemble it, under licence. Not that you do a good job at that either. Look at your workspace. Shocking.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:11pm On Feb 02, 2016
Battle tested army with battle tested weapons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_apLhv2BCk
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:16pm On Feb 02, 2016
Nigerian navy to build its own Landing Ship, LST....big defense industry in naval ship building...for a navy that is active at sea from Lagos Nigeria, to Luanda of Angola in SADC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DRZmM0wGVk
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:17pm On Feb 02, 2016
A real air force that fightd real wars Africa's most experienced air to ground attack, intelligence/surveillance/recce, airmen special forces fighting on ground, and precision guided missile air to surface strike capability air force from Cape Town to Cairo 2016.

No rival !!!! NAF is king of Africa !!!! Young blood, experienced blood !!! Envy is killing your enemies !!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjDJJWiw_Ks

The only air force with guided missile drone strike experience in Africa and one of the only 4 in the world....NAF the klller !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5fDPP62_H8
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:34pm On Feb 02, 2016
DieVluit:


The ugly Igirigi. A bad knockoff of a bad design, the Streit Cougar. Are you still peddling the lie that the Igirigi is an indigenous Nigerian design? Cause the truth is that all you do is assemble it, under licence. Not that you do a good job at that either. Look at your workspace. Shocking.

Prove it, post proof of your false claims....while you google the ugly photos of Mamba and Ratel monkey faced armoured vehicles gringrin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:43pm On Feb 02, 2016
Video of NAF CH-3A drone destroying boko-haram logistics base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5fDPP62_H8
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:46pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:
Nigerian navy to build its own Landing Ship, LST....big defense industry in naval ship building...for a navy that is active at sea from Lagos Nigeria, to Luanda of Angola in SADC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DRZmM0wGVk

And SAN is acive from Cape Town to Hong-Kong

So what?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:47pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:
A real air force that fightd real wars Africa's most experienced air to ground attack, intelligence/surveillance/recce, airmen special forces fighting on ground, and precision guided missile air to surface strike capability air force from Cape Town to Cairo 2016.

No rival !!!! NAF is king of Africa !!!! Young blood, experienced blood !!! Envy is killing your enemies !!!!

Why would we be envious of 7 aircraft?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:49pm On Feb 02, 2016
agaugust:


Prove it, post proof of your false claims....while you google the ugly photos of Mamba and Ratel monkey faced armoured vehicles gringrin

Who cares how the Ratel or Mamba look?

They are better than anything you build and people buy them!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:04am On Feb 03, 2016
Patchesagain:


Why would we be envious of 7 aircraft?

Lol....the new 2016 NAF promo video you responded to, just that video alone shows 12 aircraft without counting the dozens of others....Patches, you have a lot to regret + envy gringrin

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjDJJWiw_Ks
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:07am On Feb 03, 2016
Patchesagain:


Who cares how the Ratel or Mamba look?

They are better than anything you build and people buy them!!

Who cares how the Igirigi looks?

23mm X 2 cannon IFV firepower plus acclaimed 150km road speed !

They are better than anything you build and Libya buys Igirigi from Nigeria!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:08am On Feb 03, 2016
agaugust:


Prove it, post proof of your false claims....while you google the ugly photos of Mamba and Ratel monkey faced armoured vehicles gringrin


So, after all these years, you never knew that the ugly Igirigi is not yours? Shameful.


http://www.armored-cars.com/company.php?p=global

For example, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) Arms Transfers Database, Nigeria last year produced 10 Streit Cougar armoured personnel carriers (APCs) under license as the Igirigi. The Igirigi is assembled by the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps and was initially thought to be a wholly indigenous design.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-38580/

http://cameroon-concord.com/news/headlines/item/2889-nigeria-acquiring-new-and-second-hand-military-hardware

https://twitter.com/ofoegbukelechi/status/685158163860074497

FAKE CLAIMS BY THE PATHETIC NIGERIANS ON THIS SITE. THE UGLY IGIRIGI WAS NEVER YOURS TO BEGIN WITH. IT'S A DESIGN BY THE STREIT GROUP. YOU ONLY BORROWED IT AND AREN'T EVEN DOING A GOOD JOB ON IT.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:21am On Feb 03, 2016
agaugust:


Lol....the new 2016 NAF promo video you responded to, just that video alone shows 12 aircraft without counting the dozens of others....Patches, you have a lot to regret + envy gringrin

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjDJJWiw_Ks

1. Who says that is up to date footage?
2. A plane does not need to be airworthy to be parked on a runway for a propaganda video

Official sources say 7
Number of sorties flown adds up to 7

You have 7 operational platforms, deal with it grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:23am On Feb 03, 2016
DieVluit:



So, after all these years, you never knew that the ugly Igirigi is not yours? Shameful.


http://www.armored-cars.com/company.php?p=global

For example, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) Arms Transfers Database, Nigeria last year produced 10 Streit Cougar armoured personnel carriers (APCs) under license as the Igirigi. The Igirigi is assembled by the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps and was initially thought to be a wholly indigenous design.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-38580/

http://cameroon-concord.com/news/headlines/item/2889-nigeria-acquiring-new-and-second-hand-military-hardware

https://twitter.com/ofoegbukelechi/status/685158163860074497

FAKE CLAIMS BY THE PATHETIC NIGERIANS ON THIS SITE. THE UGLY IGIRIGI WAS NEVER YOURS TO BEGIN WITH. IT'S A DESIGN BY THE STREIT GROUP. YOU ONLY BORROWED IT AND AREN'T EVEN DOING A GOOD JOB ON IT.

Wrong information !!!! False information !!!!! Error loaded source cooked up by envious South African journalists !!!

PHOTO 1 : Canadian Streit. Couger APC design

PHOTO 2 : Nigerian army original prototype Igirigi design

PHOTO 3 : Nigerian army final product Igirigi design

PHOTO 4 : Nigerian army original Igirigi at developmental stage of design

Now tell us how the Igirigi design is same as Couger....meanwhile, that South African website propaganda failed to stop Igirigi export to Libya as Nigeria begins to knock South Africa out of the middle east and african LATV market !!!!

If Igirigi is the same as Couger, why did Igirigi have a two stage development process starting from scratch with a unique prototype ?

"The Igirigi Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) is the Nigerian Army’s locally manufactured armoured personnel carrier.

Designed and manufactured by the army Corps of Engineers , the APC was first introduced to the media during the 2012 Nigeria Army Day celebrations (NADCEL). While actual specs of the vehicle are still undisclosed, observers noted the remote control weapons station, and its IED deflecting V shaped hull.

The Chief of Army Staff (COAS), Lt.-Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika, said the local production of APC had saved the nation at least 30 per cent of the cost of the foreign version and that the unveiling of the APC was part of the ongoing reform in the military and in line with the transformation agenda of the Jonathan administration."


http://africanspotlight.com/2015/03/01/photos-igirigi-made-nigeria-armoured-personnel-carriers-boko-haram-war/


#WRECKED.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:23am On Feb 03, 2016
agaugust:


Who cares how the Igirigi looks?

23mm X 2 cannon IFV firepower plus acclaimed 150km road speed !

They are better than anything you build and Libya buys Igirigi from Nigeria!

No one cares how it looks, except you since you keep bringing it up dumbass grin grin

Wow, unstabilized guns without optics or FCS crudely welded onto a vehicle... so impressive!

You are really saying that it is better than a Ratel? Your neighbor says Ratel is better grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:26am On Feb 03, 2016
agaugust:


Wrong information !!!! False information !!!!! Error loaded source cooked up by envious South African journalists !!!

PHOTO 1 : Canadian Streit. Couger APC design

PHOTO 2 : Nigerian army original prototype Igirigi design

PHOTO 3 : Nigerian army final product Igirigi design

Now tell us how the Igirigi design is same as Couger....meanwhile, that South African website propaganda failed to stop Igirigi export to Libya as Nigeria begins to knock South Africa out of the middle east and african LATV market !!!!

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Fact is that Igiri is a copy - if igugug is a Nigerian design, then the Badger is a South African design grin grin grin

Do you really think you have knocked us out of the market? With a handfull of these licence built vehicles? Dude, we just sold Ratels to YOUR NEIGHBOR you cant even corner the market in your own region and you think you can compete globally, Ratel is used by 12 countries around the world!! cheesy

You need to get back in touch with reality.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:30am On Feb 03, 2016
agaugust:


Wrong information !!!! False information !!!!! Error loaded source cooked up by envious South African journalists !!!

PHOTO 1 : Canadian Streit. Couger APC design

PHOTO 2 : Nigerian army original prototype Igirigi design

PHOTO 3 : Nigerian army final product Igirigi design

Now tell us how the Igirigi design is same as Couger....meanwhile, that South African website propaganda failed to stop Igirigi export to Libya as Nigeria begins to knock South Africa out of the middle east and african LATV market !!!!

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As expected, there are claims that the sources are false and envious. grin grin

Luckily, these are secondary sources and the primary source is SIPRI. Also, "under licence" means you will have the right to give the Cougar another name and to also include some variants.

You probably went for the cheapest licence you could find; and that was one from Streit. So pathetic that they haven't even thought of withdrawing it if you will work in a workspace like what I posted.

LOL, all these months you kept claiming as yours what was in fact not yours. grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:35am On Feb 03, 2016
DieVluit:


As expected, there are claims that the sources are false and envious. grin grin

Luckily, these are secondary sources and the primary source is SIPRI. Also, "under licence" means you will have the right to give the Cougar another name and to also include some variants.

You probably went for the cheapest licence you could find; and that was one from Streit. So pathetic that they haven't even thought of withdrawing it if you will work in a workspace like what I posted.

LOL, all these months you kept claiming as yours what was in fact not yours. grin grin grin grin grin

Yep, that is his standard response.

"ENVY" - how the worlds top 20 arms exporter with one of the 100 biggest defence firms in the world would be envious i dont know grin

"Propaganda" - lol, just lol

Pics related: "Envy"

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:38am On Feb 03, 2016
Patchesagain:


Yep, that is his standard response.

"ENVY" - how the worlds top 20 arms exporter with one of the 100 biggest defence firms in the world would be envious i dont know grin

"Propaganda" - lol, just lol

Pics related: "Envy"

I expected that I was gonna get that response. So predictable. God knows why people would envy an ugly knockoff.

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