bigblangston:
. He never used Adepoju because he thought there was nothing to play for after d loss to d swedes just wanted to use d game against england to test new players. What of the eric ejiofor that he took to d tournament (ojekeire no like dis guy) dat shitty defender all because he was able to outmuscle some ismailly fc players the guy was chosen. Pius ikedia was selected because he outperformed babaginda in training and ikedia is a yoruba right?... Comparing players frm one generation to another generation is very wrong because football is dynamic, tactics in one era may not be used in anoda era, I laff when people start comparing maradona to messi. Most coaches lik to take senior players to a major tourney so dat they can serve as a source of inspiration to the younger ones... Barthlomew ogbeche was the exception and few other players eg ejiofor, benedict akwuegbu in that star studded team. The team never really gelled cos they were hurriedly assembled because of our NFA, missed the ishaya mark aku led board

safarigirl:
na wa o....you get time me

@ mrfellory, you hate me? Hate is a very strong word to use on someone you barely know and have never met. Did I ever attack you? Did I kill someone close to you? Have I stolen from you? Does being stubborn and opinionated warrant bing hated by someone who only know an internet personality.

You all should watch the terms you use,you may dislike certain traits, but when you hate someone, you pur yourself in a bad light. If you are a Christian,you can never make heaven when you hate someone. I have altercations with many people here,but I have never attacked anyone someone else was attacking,nor have I arrived weeks after an altercation to post anything vile at one person. If you were as buy as you claim, you would not have time to read through altercations

And I can say that I certainly hate nobody, I may meet some people in reality and like their offline personalities, it is folly to judge anyone on what is said on a forum.

You don't even have your picture online, I have mine right there,anyone can see me and for those who hate me, you can even block me. I'm not talking smack and hiding my face.

97% of people who attack me here don't even have the guts to put a face to their words.

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Recall his comment when asked abt y he took Adepoju(hu was virtually called back frm retirement) and Opabunmi to the 2002 WC when it was obvious they were nt good enough at that time to make d team.Remember he dropped Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh, Tijani Babangida and Victor Ikpeba. The Nigerian press tagged him a tribalist nt jst bc he picked Opabunmi and Adepoju ahead of the above mentioned Golden generation Eagles bt bc of the ethnocentric reason behind his decision. It was d Ibadan connection though Onigbinde is from Modakeke bt was based in Ibadan jst like Adepoju and Opabunmi.

U remember what he said when appointed Shooting stars coach for the 2003/2004 season? He said he wanted to build a 3SC team that will comprise only of the Yoruba players. 3SC managed to escape relegation that season and Onigbinde was fired .
Have u noticed he is d last Yoruba to coach d Super Eagles.

Although i still respect that man a lot. U know he laid d foundation for the rise of Gambian football.

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Opabunmi too was better than Ayegbeni right?

And u have nt defended his comment after being appointed coach of 3SC in 2003

This Ojeikere that u are always mentioning sef.

forgiveness:


You see yourself! You are not been honest with the truth.

Who dropped them? Why? Was it Onigbinde or the NFF and the Sport Minister? Was it because of indiscipline or lack of form?

The last time i checked that list, i only saw four players from his region.

How come you only hand pick Opabunmi and Adepoju? How come you refused to see Vicent Enyeama, Bartholomew Ogbeche, Eric Ejiofor, Justice Christopher, Austin Ejide, John Utaka, Pius Ikedia etcetera Players we all know were not ready for the World Cup? In fact, some were flop while some became the best players in Europe.

Are you affirming that there was an ethnocentric reason behind Stephen Keshi decision to have picked 96% players from his region over Taye Taiwo, Obafemi Martins, Raheem Lawal, Sone Aluko, Peter Odemwigie, etcetera. players that were inform of their life?


@ bolded, do you have any prove?

Hmmm! Reason, I prefer a foreign coach because you have just.......

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Well, I wasn't d one that raised eye-brow over Onigbinde's inclusion of Adepoju and Opabunmi. It was d Nigerian press and close observers. Adepoju had long past his peak and was nt even part of d qualifiers. Pple saw him as retired already and all of a sudden he made d world cup squad. It is jst like including some1 like John Utaka in our 2018 WC squad. Opabunmi had jst featured at d U17 WC a few months earlier and he made d list even ahead of Yakubu and Babangida. Soccer pundits then didn't understand d rationel behind d inclusion of the 2 players in the team. Opabunmi (too young & inexperienced); Adepoju( too old and had lost steam).
Onigbinde's defence was "Adepoju is my joker. Opabunmi and Adepoju are my boys so I am taking them to d World Cup". If u remembered vividly that statement didnt go down well with Pundits and analysts including some NFA board members. Some people even said he took Adepoju to d WC jst to help him financially.

I am sure u know neither Adepoju nor Opabunmi kicked a single ball at that world cup.

bigblangston:
. Opabunmi was better than benedict akwuegbu and akwuegbu wasn't better than yakubu but akwuegbu was chosen all the same even yakuböu was better than ogbeche. Then the question shud be changed to Why was benedict akwuegbu taken and yakubu dropped? I was not aware abt the comment u claimed onigbinde made concernin 3sc players so I ve no cause to defend what I don't knw. I'm nt sure the high chief said that u might ve misquoted him or u were mis-informed by a journalist. If u can provide d source and let's check for d credibility of d source...(Ade ojeikere is my best sports analyst followed by ralph chidozie george)

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What? Opabunmi better than Akwuegbu?
Opabunmi that had jst graduated from d U17 & was still at 3SC waiting for his European offers to click. Benedict Akwuegbu a graduate of the 1989 Eaglets, verstly experienced, was our main striker to d 2000 & 2002 AFCON. Yakubu hu could also had been chosen ahead of Opabunmi was a peoduct of the 2000 Olympics, He was then playing at Macabi Haifa of Isreal and scored a hat-trick in that 4-0 demolision of Sudan enroute qualification for that 2002 WC. Most football analysts then disnt understand y Opabunmi was taken ahead of Ayegbeni. The simple answer from Onigbinde was " he is my boy".

Opabunmi's talent then was nt even any where near Victor Osimhen's talent of today.

I dnt want to drag this argument further cos this is an U23 thread. Go back in time, it is nt too long ago to remember, there were question marks as per d inclusion of Adepoju and Opabunmi in dat 2002 WC list.

As per Onigbinde's ethnocentric comment after joining 3SC I am very sure of what i am talking abt. It was even a subject of discuss in of d sports show then.I cannot give u links on that comment bc d internet was nt as widely used then as today.So probably nt documented.

2002 is jst like yesterday to me. If i can vu
vividly remember sporting events of 1984 -87 what is 2002? Jst like yesterday.

fellory:


The supernerd or whatever you call yourselfNever in your miserable life lived on the internet mention me again.I used to love that Safari girl until i saw her ranting and raining abuses on someone ciuple of months ago.Instead of the fool you are to correct her you keep patronising the girl.Be careful o i am a busy person and only come online to read football stories though regular but i hardly comment.Never in your life use stupid or any vile word to address my post if you dont want to incur my wrath.A word is enough for the wise

bigblangston:
. Opabunmi was better than benedict akwuegbu and akwuegbu wasn't better than yakubu but akwuegbu was chosen all the same even yakubu was better than ogbeche. Then the question shud be changed to Why was benedict akwuegbu taken and yakubu dropped? I was not aware abt the comment u claimed onigbinde made concernin 3sc players so I ve no cause to defend what I don't knw. I'm nt sure the high chief said that u might ve misquoted him or u were mis-informed by a journalist. If u can provide d source and let's check for d credibility of d source...(Ade ojeikere is my best sports analyst followed by ralph chidozie george)

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Well, I wasn't d one that raised eye-brow over Onigbinde's inclusion of Adepoju and Opabunmi. It was d Nigerian press and close observers. Adepoju had long past his peak and was nt even part of d qualifiers. Pple saw him as retired already and all of a sudden he made d world cup squad. It is jst like including some1 like John Utaka in our 2018 WC squad. Opabunmi had jst featured at d U17 WC a few months earlier and he made d list even ahead of Yakubu and Babangida. Soccer pundits then didn't understand d rationel behind d inclusion of the 2 players in the team. Opabunmi (too young & inexperienced); Adepoju( too old and had lost steam).
Onigbinde's defence was "Adepoju is my joker. Opabunmi and Adepoju are my boys so I am taking them to d World Cup". If u remembered vividly that statement didnt go down well with Pundits and analysts including some NFA board members. Some people even said he took Adepoju to d WC jst to help him financially.

I am sure u know neither Adepoju nor Opabunmi kicked a single ball at that world cup.

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But Onigbinde after the 2002 world cup defended Opabunmi(who I knew was a shitty player then) and Adepoju who was washed up as his boys...What nonsense. And it's ignorance to say Opabunmi who could hold a ball is better than established striker like Akwuegbu....smh.

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I am just looking forward to a friendly between the Oliseh led Super Eagles and the Siasia led U23 Team. The game can be played in either Abuja or Uyo (Two of our best pitches) and played during any of the FIFA free windows from now to June. Or 2 or 3 days after the second leg against Egypt in March won't be a bad idea.

My Team list for the Super Eagles (STARTING 11):

......................Ikeme

Balogun....Ambrose.... Obaobona.... Echiejile

..............Onazi
................................Mikel

Musa.............Uzochukwu..................V. Moses

......................Ighalo



My U23 Team list (STARTING 11):

...................Daniel

Abdullahi......Omeruo....Troost-Ekong....Madu

....................Ndidi/Azubuike

Etebor..............Iwobi.....................Simon

..............Iheanacho
..............................Success

PREDICT CORRECTLY THE SCORELINE OF THIS EPIC GAME AND STAND A CHANCE OF WINNING A TICKET TO WATCH THE DREAM TEAM LIVE IN RIO.


My good friend forgiveness, pls forgive me for not including the likes of Solanke, Ilori and Aneke. We are not sure of where their nationalities lie for now. So until then.....

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Well, I wasn't d one that raised eye-brow over Onigbinde's inclusion of Adepoju and Opabunmi. It was d Nigerian press and close observers. Adepoju had long past his peak and was nt even part of d qualifiers. Pple saw him as retired already and all of a sudden he made d world cup squad. It is jst like including some1 like John Utaka in our 2018 WC squad. Opabunmi had jst featured at d U17 WC a few months earlier and he made d list even ahead of Yakubu and Babangida. Soccer pundits then didn't understand d rationel behind d inclusion of the 2 players in the team. Opabunmi (too young & inexperienced); Adepoju( too old and had lost steam).
Onigbinde's defence was "Adepoju is my joker. Opabunmi and Adepoju are my boys so I am taking them to d World Cup". If u remembered vividly that statement didnt go down well with Pundits and analysts including some NFA board members. Some people even said he took Adepoju to d WC jst to help him financially.

I am sure u know neither Adepoju nor Opabunmi kicked a single ball at that world cup.

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I am just looking forward to a friendly between the Oliseh led Super Eagles and the Siasia led U23 Team. The game can be played in either Abuja or Uyo (Two of our best pitches) and played during any of the FIFA free windows from now to June. Or 2 or 3 days after the second leg against Egypt in March won't be a bad idea.

My Team list for the Super Eagles (STARTING 11):

......................Ikeme

Balogun....Ambrose.... Obaobona.... Echiejile

..............Onazi
................................Mikel

Musa.............Uzochukwu..................V. Moses

......................Ighalo



My U23 Team list (STARTING 11):

...................Daniel

Abdullahi......Omeruo....Troost-Ekong....Madu

....................Ndidi/Azubuike

Etebor..............Iwobi.....................Simon

..............Iheanacho
..............................Success

PREDICT CORRECTLY THE SCORELINE OF THIS EPIC GAME AND STAND A CHANCE OF WINNING A TICKET TO WATCH THE DREAM TEAM LIVE IN RIO.


My good friend forgiveness, pls forgive me for not including the likes of Solanke, Ilori and Aneke. We are not sure of where their nationalities lie for now. So until then.....

safarigirl:
na wa o....you get time me

@ mrfellory, you hate me? Hate is a very strong word to use on someone you barely know and have never met. Did I ever attack you? Did I kill someone close to you? Have I stolen from you? Does being stubborn and opinionated warrant bing hated by someone who only know an internet personality.

You all should watch the terms you use,you may dislike certain traits, but when you hate someone, you pur yourself in a bad light. If you are a Christian,you can never make heaven when you hate someone. I have altercations with many people here,but I have never attacked anyone someone else was attacking,nor have I arrived weeks after an altercation to post anything vile at one person. If you were as buy as you claim, you would not have time to read through altercations

And I can say that I certainly hate nobody, I may meet some people in reality and like their offline personalities, it is folly to judge anyone on what is said on a forum.

You don't even have your picture online, I have mine right there,anyone can see me and for those who hate me, you can even block me. I'm not talking smack and hiding my face.

97% of people who attack me here don't even have the guts to put a face to their words.

forgiveness:


@ bolded is very interesting but we know that match will never happen.

However, just like you said in one of your post, let's entice them with the opportunity of playing in the Olympics.

What do you think sir?

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Yes that match will never happen bc the senior Super Eagles players will consider it as an insult and hence won't show up

On the issue of enticement; nothing wrong in d NFF going for those Europe groomed players bt are d players interested in playng for Nigeria?

forgiveness:


But your body language proved otherwise because you concluded 'don't go the way of Onigbinde' and 'bb of his ethnocentric decision of picking... ' I think those words weren't framed by the press or closed observers but by you.

I can't see any cogent reason behind his decision to take Adepoju to the world Cup but Opabunmi is understandable because i remember he was given the task to build a new team. Remember, Opabunmi won Silver shoe and Bronze ball in 2001 U17 and he scored a goal for the Super Eagles in his debut match. Remember, Onigbinde did the same with Rasheed Yekini in 1984 and the rest is history. So, we can say atleast some of the players he introduced into National team latter became legend. But that can't be said of Keshi 2013 winning team.

You said Opabunmi made the list ahead of Yakubu and Babangida. Is Opabunmi a striker or a right winger? Because i know he plays in non of those positions.

So, you should have asked yourself, who did Onigbinde replaced Yakubu Aiyegbeni and Tijani Babangida with? I know you the encyclopedia of Nigerian football should know that Bartholomew Ogbeche or Benidict Akwuegbu replaced Yakubu Aiyegbeni and John Utaka or Pius Ikedia replaced Tijani Babangida but you turned blind eyes to that. Why?

Remember, our best match in 2002 world Cup was against England. Opabunmi started the match and was substituted in the 86th minutes. You may want to ask where is he today but i will not tell you the answer because you already knew what happened to the lad.

Are you not one of those who suggested that Kelechi Iheanacho should have been included in the list of 2014 World Cup squad?

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I am just looking forward to a friendly between the Oliseh led Super Eagles and the Siasia led U23 Team. The game can be played in either Abuja or Uyo (Two of our best pitches) and played during any of the FIFA free windows from now to June. Or 2 or 3 days after the second leg against Egypt in March won't be a bad idea.

My Team list for the Super Eagles (STARTING 11):

......................Ikeme

Balogun....Ambrose.... Obaobona.... Echiejile

..............Onazi
................................Mikel

Musa.............Uzochukwu..................V. Moses

......................Ighalo



My U23 Team list (STARTING 11):

...................Daniel

Abdullahi......Omeruo....Troost-Ekong....Madu

....................Ndidi/Azubuike

Etebor..............Iwobi.....................Simon

..............Iheanacho
..............................Success

PREDICT CORRECTLY THE SCORELINE OF THIS EPIC GAME AND STAND A CHANCE OF WINNING A TICKET TO WATCH THE DREAM TEAM LIVE IN RIO.


My good friend forgiveness, pls forgive me for not including the likes of Solanke, Ilori and Aneke. We are not sure of where their nationalities lie for now. So until then.....

opes:


Yakubu was dropped because he wasnt fit for the tournament, he had eyes surgery weeks before the competition. i believe Adepoju was included to support the defence, not the attack. udeze was red carded during the qualifier, not available for selection in the first game against Argentina.

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I am just looking forward to a friendly between the Oliseh led Super Eagles and the Siasia led U23 Team. The game can be played in either Abuja or Uyo (Two of our best pitches) and played during any of the FIFA free windows from now to June. Or 2 or 3 days after the second leg against Egypt in March won't be a bad idea.

My Team list for the Super Eagles (STARTING 11):

......................Ikeme

Balogun....Ambrose.... Obaobona.... Echiejile

..............Onazi
................................Mikel

Musa.............Uzochukwu..................V. Moses

......................Ighalo



My U23 Team list (STARTING 11):

...................Daniel

Abdullahi......Omeruo....Troost-Ekong....Madu

....................Ndidi/Azubuike

Etebor..............Iwobi.....................Simon

..............Iheanacho
..............................Success

PREDICT CORRECTLY THE SCORELINE OF THIS EPIC GAME AND STAND A CHANCE OF WINNING A TICKET TO WATCH THE DREAM TEAM LIVE IN RIO.


My good friend forgiveness, pls forgive me for not including the likes of Solanke, Ilori and Aneke. We are not sure of where their nationalities lie for now. So until then.....

BascoVanVeli:


The question is who is coaching? I would give the seniors the edge in midfield and defence and attack on would be toss up but with a good coach either side could win.

bigblangston:
Lol... Read what you typed very well and checked both of the player's stats before jumping into the conclusion of who is ignorant. Also re-read your last sentence.

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Considering that Oliseh handles the Super Eagles and Siasia handles the U23 team.

Ghang Ghang !!!

See Gobe .......

That will be a very nice match to watch you know.

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Considering that Oliseh handles the Super Eagles and Siasia handles the U23 team.

NRIPRIEST:


I don't have any stats but I know of then that Akwuegbu is more experienced and established than an upcoming Opabunmi who was yet to find his footing. And my last sentence was an oversight..guy,chill.

BascoVanVeli:


Oga right now i am still routing for the se because of love of country i dont believe Oliseh is the man for the job but it is what it is. The senior team u picked is good enough to win that match but their coaching staff could let then down.

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In other words u dnt believe in Oliseh.