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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by trigar12(m): 8:39pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
I received a call from the Hr unit that they are sending 5 Trainees to me for confirmation. I was surprised because they didn't give me a prior notice. When I Queried the lady from the Hr unit she said the Senior Partner (HOD) contacted them that he will travelling to the UK that I can go ahead with the confirmation.

I was a bit nervous because I find it difficult relating with people, what do I ask them? Moreover I have too much on my hands already. I told Hr to give me an hour so that I can coordinate myself tongue....The truth is if you confirm a trainee and He/she under performs, it tells badly on your record. Here I am always striving to maintain a spotless record now this challenge doesn't look good.

Exactly an hour later Hr unit called again that they are on their way, I told her to take them to the conference room.....30mins later I joined them Lo and Behold I saw 5 well dressed gentlemen and ladies 3 guys and 2 ladies. I stared at them and they were looking back at me (which kind witch be this I said to myself) They thought I was testing them truth is I don't even know what to say or ask....."tell me your names I started".....after all the blah blah.....i went through their cv's it was good. 3 had first class. it was B.A trainee, I looked at their aptitude test performances read their essays great; yet I didn't know what further qstns to ask. So I wrote down a simple arithmetic on the board and I gave them 90s to solve. Only one got it right within the time frame (A lady!!!!; she bagged First class from Reading University UK). I thanked them for their interest in joining us. I sent my remarks to Hr and they were shocked. Hr Manager had to call me explaining that they have spent so such on the recruitment exercise and approving just one means they have to continue the exercise. I simply told him Mr ***a** you can confirm the rest.

This was the simple problem I wrote on the board.

€/€ - €/6 = €/12......what is the value of €?

So I am asking you, how good are you with basic reasoning?

This question you gave them to solve, is it relevant to their job in that office, if NO

You just ruined ppl's hope, NA OVERSABI GO KILL YOU!!! waray undecided

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Nobody: 8:41pm On Feb 03, 2016
Bro, u dey mind those yeye people?

E383:


If you were judged based on what you didn't know at every point you sought to have a job will you be in a position to make someone who had worked hard, bagged a good degree, excellent performance at the initial stage of the recruitment, finally get HR recommendation only to be asked to solve a silly mathematical problem which has no bearing whatsoever on performance look stupid because you were confused and didn't know how to do a simple delegated task.

You need to call HR and apologize for doing something as silly as that.

I owe you no apology.


As for you cretin, you better don't quote me ever again in this your miserable life.

Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by abbey621(m): 8:43pm On Feb 03, 2016
bezimo:



This is so easy.If your narration is true, then this is shocking that only 1 out of 5 graduates got it right.This is elementary school algebra that high school students should play with and deliver in less than 30 seconds.

€=4

I've graduated since 2008 and I didn't get the answer till after 5 minutes. I manage over 40 personnel in my department some are programmers, some are Database managers, all are good arithmetically but I'm in charge of all of them. I was directly involved in the hiring process for 25 out of 40 of them and I can't imagine asking them something as frivolous as an arithmetic question. I still don't understand the usefulness of the arithmetic question when it's been proven times without number that behavioral questions are more effective than quantitative questions when assessing job candidates!

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by PresVA: 8:44pm On Feb 03, 2016
Boeing777pilot:


People who are against what you did are exactly the type of people who will most likely never become management staff due to their infantile decision making processes. In my line of job, there is zero room for error at any stage. I salute your courage to do the right thing.
Seriously, what right thing? How could he judge them based on a single question? So you think anyone who couldn't solve the question isn't smart, can't perform well on the job or can't solve a harder arithmetic? To have reached that stage considering the thousands of trainee candidates we have in Nigeria, they must be intelligent. .
Also, considering he gave them time..there's this tension that comes with being timed, also they least expected another test at that stage... it must have come as a shock..

I'm not excusing the candidates' inability to solve the problem but op judging them based on a single arithmetic is just irrational. .

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by ladyF(f): 8:46pm On Feb 03, 2016
Ishilove:

Why do I have a feeling you're a guy?

Your profile picture is very disturbing
lol I get that a lot Ma, but ayam female grin
Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Nobody: 8:48pm On Feb 03, 2016
You have spoken the truth here. For the op to use 1 good hour to coordinate himself just to meet potential trainees, shows how unintelligent he is. Don't mind him. We sabi their kind.

truthspeaks:
U ve said it all. Imagine a Hr professional who z afraid of communicating, cld nt even rise 2 d occasion as he requested an hour 2 coordinate himself n expects trainees to knw evrytin in 90secs. OP jst used d aura of his authority 2 dash d hopes of those recruits. Imagine wat they wld hv gone thru b4 getting 2 dat stage n they wr jst 5 in number 4 dat mata considering d thousands of applicants dat wld hv applied @ d beginning. In summary, d op is a professional buffoon...sory 2 say

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 8:49pm On Feb 03, 2016
correctyourself:


I must say you are a wrong person to be in your position, just because you don't know what to do you decided to play out of the rules because you want to protect your records and thwarted the efforts of those that have been working to make sure they got to that level even when you saw that their records from the recruitment process is good, don't worry this will expose you to your organization that you lack what it takes to handle such issue, must they know everything that you knew? By the way, are they not trainees? and what did you understand by (trainee) , By the grace of God that decision will be revised while your capacity would be made known to your organization.

Have it in mind that decision will affect you, as it is now you have shown to your colleagues whom you are by making them feel having worked and gotten to this stage they did nothing. So annoying, I just hope when the main person that is in charge comes back he/she should have second/positive look on their performance and as well review your own contract/position before you run your organization's (employees retention strength) from 100% to 0%.
Lol...Complaints have done no one any good? There is no test that seems fair as long as you didn't scale through. Talking about personal evaluation; I don't think there is anyone (Nigerian) that have risen so fast as I did except few Asian guys... I will advise you to strive to be better in your endeavours....

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by 7508: 8:49pm On Feb 03, 2016
Op!, you be oponu, no be person give you chance way you take find job?, that oversabi wey you do will come back to haunt you one day o

Idiot op!

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Aremu01(m): 8:50pm On Feb 03, 2016
petiteee:
abi oooo eleda awon omo yen a ja cry feel sad for them
Imagine such height of wickedness.
Kai, I feel for those poor kids

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Mmadu111: 8:54pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
Lol...Complaints have done no one any good? There is no test that seems fair as long as you didn't scale through. Talking about personal evaluation; I don't think there is anyone (Nigerian) that have risen so fast as I did except few Asian guys... I will advise you to strive to be better in your endeavours....
pride comes first before a downfall..... easy

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Bluffly: 8:54pm On Feb 03, 2016
Boeing777pilot:
OP you did very well by confirming only one.

I'm very sure that the op wouldn't have set the question if it wasn't relevant.

And in case you didn't notice, if he confirms them and they mess up, it's on him.

If you made a 2.1 or first class, then prove it.

Is it all discipline that had maths integrated.
Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Bluffly: 8:57pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
Lol...Complaints have done no one any good? There is no test that seems fair as long as you didn't scale through. Talking about personal evaluation; I don't think there is anyone (Nigerian) that have risen so fast as I did except few Asian guys... I will advise you to strive to be better in your endeavours....
Don't be so full of yourself

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 8:59pm On Feb 03, 2016
truthspeaks:
U ve said it all. Imagine a Hr professional who z afraid of communicating, cld nt even rise 2 d occasion as he requested an hour 2 coordinate himself n expects trainees to knw evrytin in 90secs. OP jst used d aura of his authority 2 dash d hopes of those recruits. Imagine wat they wld hv gone thru b4 getting 2 dat stage n they wr jst 5 in number 4 dat mata considering d thousands of applicants dat wld hv applied @ d beginning. In summary, d op is a professional buffoon...sory 2 say
I am very sure if I had given them a simple comprehension test people like you will complain. Where did I state that I am in Hr unit let alone a Hr professional? That is the problem you have with people seek understanding before you type. I am not good at communicating so? You don't need that much around here. We only need your calculating brain. I can't remember the last time I said good morning at the office. If you are good in communication thanks. Have you not wondered why Standard chartered Bank and Shell NG don't test your verbal aptitude? Too much talk ruins the brain just be cautious. Improve your comprehension skill.....Mind your Language.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by petiteee(f): 8:59pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
Lol...Complaints have done no one any good? There is no test that seems fair as long as you didn't scale through. Talking about personal evaluation; I don't think there is anyone (Nigerian) that have risen so fast as I did except few Asian guys... I will advise you to strive to be better in your endeavours....
Bobo yi n gberaga sha undecided

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 9:02pm On Feb 03, 2016
Bluffly:

Don't be so full of yourself
that is a problem; when you start replying quotes sometimes you just go astray while trying to prove a point

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 9:03pm On Feb 03, 2016
petiteee:
Bobo yi n gberaga sha undecided
that is a problem; when you start replying quotes sometimes you just go astray while trying to prove a point

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Boeing777pilot: 9:06pm On Feb 03, 2016
Bluffly:


Is it all discipline that had maths integrated.

Well OP said they deal with complex financial theories so I presume the applicants should have some form of maths knowledge.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by tosyne2much(m): 9:06pm On Feb 03, 2016
holyFRED:

They all did solve he but he gave them a time frame(90secs).

The OP is just a guy who is so full of himself when he is pure_shit.

Imagine how he is even proud telling us that he ended people's struggles in 90secs.
Guy,this thread annoys the hell out of me and I don't care being banned as long as I say my mind to this guy.

cc: STFUa.reyouGod
Tosy.ne2much

Coman see a fool(the op) on NL. embarassed
I also see no atom of sense in what the OP did. Not everybody can think logically and critically when under intense pressure


Ironically, the said person who managed to provide an answer to the quantitative test may even be the one that will under perform when placed on the job

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by correctyourself(m): 9:07pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
Lol...Complaints have done no one any good? There is no test that seems fair as long as you didn't scale through. Talking about personal evaluation; I don't think there is anyone (Nigerian) that have risen so fast as I did except few Asian guys... I will advise you to strive to be better in your endeavours....

Over confidence! Stop deceiving yourself, I can see you have not had life experience. The day issue would warrant taking decision about you would look like an empty pack, some of the banks that has folded-up where are some of their managers today, and what was their feelings while they were still in office? Do anybody dare challenge them, but today I'm sure even fowl can.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by 4nobody4every1: 9:07pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
that is a problem; when you start replying quotes sometimes you just go astray while trying to prove a point
........... undecided undecided angry
Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Boeing777pilot: 9:07pm On Feb 03, 2016
Mmadu111:
pride comes first before a downfall..... easy

So someone should not acknowledge he's good again?

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Nobody: 9:08pm On Feb 03, 2016
STFUareyouGod:
hehehehe make I go read the story


I won't blame op tho. I guess he was only trying to avoid being responsible for their employment in case anything goes wrong. So that was his own way of minimising the risk of staining his own record. He clearly stated that he'll be responsible for whatever they do there after. And he doesn't want his record tarnished.
Why didn't he hand over the job to another person?
He also clearly stated not knowing a penny abouft confirmation but still went ahead to carry it out.

Postponing it woulda done the trick while he dedicated his little time to learn how to confirm trainees.

I bet he doesn't know the kinda stress and effort those people put in to get to that stage just to get that poo from the OP.

He was clearly after his reputation and not confirming those trainees. I tell you. Look closely into the thread and you'd spot the kinda person he is.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Bluffly: 9:09pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
I received a call from the Hr unit that they are sending 5 Trainees to me for confirmation. I was surprised because they didn't give me a prior notice. When I Queried the lady from the Hr unit she said the Senior Partner (HOD) contacted them that he will travelling to the UK that I can go ahead with the confirmation.

I was a bit nervous because I find it difficult relating with people, what do I ask them? Moreover I have too much on my hands already. I told Hr to give me an hour so that I can coordinate myself tongue....The truth is if you confirm a trainee and He/she under performs, it tells badly on your record. Here I am always striving to maintain a spotless record now this challenge doesn't look good.

Exactly an hour later Hr unit called again that they are on their way, I told her to take them to the conference room.....30mins later I joined them Lo and Behold I saw 5 well dressed gentlemen and ladies 3 guys and 2 ladies. I stared at them and they were looking back at me (which kind witch be this I said to myself) They thought I was testing them truth is I don't even know what to say or ask....."tell me your names I started".....after all the blah blah.....i went through their cv's it was good. 3 had first class. it was B.A trainee, I looked at their aptitude test performances read their essays great; yet I didn't know what further qstns to ask. So I wrote down a simple arithmetic on the board and I gave them 90s to solve. Only one got it right within the time frame (A lady!!!!; she bagged First class from Reading University UK). I thanked them for their interest in joining us. I sent my remarks to Hr and they were shocked. Hr Manager had to call me explaining that they have spent so such on the recruitment exercise and approving just one means they have to continue the exercise. I simply told him Mr ***a** you can confirm the rest.

This was the simple problem I wrote on the board.

€/€ - €/6 = €/12......what is the value of €?

So I am asking you, how good are you with basic reasoning?

But Op, may I know what position you occupy in this organization? But either way you took a cheap route out. You used an hour to prepare for confirmation and ask such a question that actually can't depict your ability to give an on the spot solution to issues. For me you only covered up your weakness. What is wrong if you take a brief chat with each of them to find out about their relativeness to the company's goals and objectives.
You should have cared to learn what they've learnt in the while, have a quick chat with their direct supervises if any, see if they are trainable
For me I am disappointed

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 9:10pm On Feb 03, 2016
Bluffly:


Is it all discipline that had maths integrated.
I spent all my time in the university studying fish ponds...you see if the trainees feel they are not sound numerically why do they want to become financial experts? don't shield mediocrity. I studied Fishries and had guys that studied Economics and Finance, but I wasn't daunted. The position requires excellent numerical ability......

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by petiteee(f): 9:10pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
I am very sure if I had given them a simple comprehension test people like you will complain. Where did I state that I am in Hr unit let alone a Hr professional? That is the problem you have with people seek understanding before you type. I am not good at communicating so? You don't need that much around here. We only need your calculating brain. I can't remember the last time I said good morning at the office. If you are good in communication thanks. Have you not wondered why Standard chartered Bank and Shell NG don't test your verbal aptitude? Too much talk ruins the brain just be cautious. Improve your comprehension skill.....Mind your Language.
ur pride is sth else.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Boeing777pilot: 9:11pm On Feb 03, 2016
tosyne2much:
I also see no atom of sense in what the OP did. Not everybody can think logically and critical when under intense pressure



Some jobs actually require you to think logically and critically under pressure.

If the applicant can't perform under pressure, he has no business being there.

Imagine the pilot of an aircraft freaking out when there's a turbulence.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Nobody: 9:13pm On Feb 03, 2016
tosyne2much:
I also see no atom of sense in what the OP did. Not everybody can think logically and critical when under intense pressure


Ironically, the said person who managed to provide an answer to the that quantitative test may even be the one that will under perform when placed on the job
500 bottles of moet champegne for this brother wink (I no care if you fit finish am tongue)


The OP was more concerned about his reputation rather than giving them a 'good' confirmation.

Those guys were already under lots of pressure and the OP decided to still add up more pressure on them.
Does he see the brain as a pressure pot or what? angry

He even took 1hr 30mins to prepare to meet the trainees and this is what his brain came up with after such a long preparation time?
Great! embarassed

I just pity those poor job seekers going home with serious psychological blows embarassed

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by 6fit(f): 9:14pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
I received a call from the Hr unit that they are sending 5 Trainees to me for confirmation. I was surprised because they didn't give me a prior notice. When I Queried the lady from the Hr unit she said the Senior Partner (HOD) contacted them that he will travelling to the UK that I can go ahead with the confirmation.

I was a bit nervous because I find it difficult relating with people, what do I ask them? Moreover I have too much on my hands already. I told Hr to give me an hour so that I can coordinate myself tongue....The truth is if you confirm a trainee and He/she under performs, it tells badly on your record. Here I am always striving to maintain a spotless record now this challenge doesn't look good.

Exactly an hour later Hr unit called again that they are on their way, I told her to take them to the conference room.....30mins later I joined them Lo and Behold I saw 5 well dressed gentlemen and ladies 3 guys and 2 ladies. I stared at them and they were looking back at me (which kind witch be this I said to myself) They thought I was testing them truth is I don't even know what to say or ask....."tell me your names I started".....after all the blah blah.....i went through their cv's it was good. 3 had first class. it was B.A trainee, I looked at their aptitude test performances read their essays great; yet I didn't know what further qstns to ask. So I wrote down a simple arithmetic on the board and I gave them 90s to solve. Only one got it right within the time frame (A lady!!!!; she bagged First class from Reading University UK). I thanked them for their interest in joining us. I sent my remarks to Hr and they were shocked. Hr Manager had to call me explaining that they have spent so such on the recruitment exercise and approving just one means they have to continue the exercise. I simply told him Mr ***a** you can confirm the rest.

This was the simple problem I wrote on the board.

€/€ - €/6 = €/12......what is the value of €?

So I am asking you, how good are you with basic reasoning?

you are like dat person dat every job seeker will pray they do not come across when going for job interview. Am sure u did not even make a First class or even second class upper....if all recruiters are like yu, i wonder how saturated d labour market will be. Did yu get yur own job experience from heaven Anyway, if u dont employ dem another coy will do

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Aremu01(m): 9:14pm On Feb 03, 2016
Boeing777pilot:
OP you did very well by confirming only one.

I'm very sure that the op wouldn't have set the question if it wasn't relevant.

And in case you didn't notice, if he confirms them and they mess up, it's on him.

If you made a 2.1 or first class, then prove it.
Come on, what are you saying? Those guys might be under pressure cos he gave them 90secs, don't forget and he could have asked another question. Op didn't try I beg.
Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Bluffly: 9:14pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
I spent all my time in the university studying fish ponds...you see if the trainees feel they are not sound numerically why do they want to become financial experts? don't shield mediocrity. I studied Fishries and had guys that studied Economics and Finance, but I wasn't daunted. The position requires excellent numerical ability......

In every job as a trainee what you consider is are you trainable. Let me tell you that the lady that solved the question could be the dullest going forward. I am a hr person and I can tell you that that was not well done.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by Marxxx: 9:15pm On Feb 03, 2016
Bluffly:


But Op, may I know what position you occupy in this organization? But either way you took a cheap route out. You used an hour to prepare for confirmation and ask such a question that actually can't depict your ability to give an on the spot solution to issues. For me you only covered up your weakness. What is wrong if you take a brief chat with each of them to find out about other relativeness to the company's goals and objectives.
You should have cared to learn what they've learnt in the while, have a quick chat with their direct supervises if any.
For me I am disappointed
I don't need your goals or objectives. I don't care if you have leadership skills or not. Infact I don't care if they are introverts or sadist. All I want is a brain that can learn how to solve complex financial problems in the short period. I am a perfect introvert myself and I dislike chatting...just solve the problem before you that is all.

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Re: Why I Refused To Confirm Four Trainees After Their Assessment Centre. by petiteee(f): 9:16pm On Feb 03, 2016
Marxxx:
that is a problem; when you start replying quotes sometimes you just go astray while trying to prove a point
did u do copy and paste for me and d oda quoter? grin tongue undecided

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