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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
jln115: Technologically advanced, how? Self sustainable, how? Is smoking weed in South-Africa legal? How is a defence industry which relies on europe for 80% of all components and China for 70% of it's steel self sustaining? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:53pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:03pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: You make Rooivalk engines? Badger engine is from Finland. REVA, Casspir and other MRAP engines are from Germany....and so on ! SA defence industry is NOT self sustaining, you are as exposed to risk of war time arms embargo as any other African country . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:04pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: A full half that is in the final stages of being replaced. At least we dont buy obsolete ships - 60 year old cutters, 40 year old irish patrol boats 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:05pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: Why did SAAB buy Grintek? For fun? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:06pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: Project Biro is not 23 years old. I hid information? Its obvious that they are obsolete!! Project biro has been accounted for, and tenders are ready to be issued. Why is all of your navy but 2 vessels obsolete? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:08pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: It is obvious that is what he is referring to. He says many things, but he does not know how the SANDF has accounted for funds. We dont release tenders that we cannot pay for. Half our fleet is obsolete and is being replaced, the other half is the most advanced in SSA |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:08pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: citation needed |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:09pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: Yet we built the Rooivalk, Casspir and other MRAPS during the Arms embargoes. Think before you post. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:10pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: Your link tells us none of your claims. Liar. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:12pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Patrick Lawd knows you have no shame!! So 3 vessels equals half the South-African Navy fleet. Buhahahahahahahahahaha Final stages of what, the apartheid government sent in motion project biro, heitman says you have no money. Are you supposed to fund the acquisition using voodoo? We've seen the interior of NNS Okpabana, it is a highly digital vessel, more advanced than your patrol corvettes. Anyway, that's by the way, we talking about the half obsolete fleet of the SA navy. Why is half your fleet obsolete? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:13pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Show us proof that foreign expatriates are cheaper than Zulus. Each Cuban mechanic is paid 30,000 Rands per month plus free house, free transport, and free mobile phone, How many Zulu mechanics earn that much? Even your senior army officers earn far less than that ! South Africa has NO mechanics capable of repairing the SAMIL trucks, your own home made defence products Show us proof that the Cubans are cheaper, show us the salary scale evidence or a source that confirms it. Liar. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:19pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: 8 vessels equals half the fleet Project Biro was not set into motion by them... or else we would have got them in 1998 Where did Heitman say we have no money? Does Heitman work for the Navy or Treasury? NNS Okpabana is obsolete in every sense of the term Half our fleet is obsolete because it is old, and is being replaced. Do you want me to list the obsolete vessels of your fleet? ok! NNS Aradu (F89) -obsolete NNS Thunder (F90) -obsolete NNS Andoni (P100) -obsolete NNS Ekpe (P178) -obsolete NNS Damisa (P179) -obsolete NNS Agu (P180) -obsolete NNS Siri (P181) -obsolete NNS Ayam (P182) -obsolete NNS Ekun (P183) -obsolete NNS Burutu (P174) -obsolete NNS Zaria (P173) -obsolete NNS Kyanwa (A 501) -obsolete NNS Ologbo (A 502) -obsolete NNS Nwamba (A 503) -obsolete NNS Obula (A 504) -obsolete NNS Ohue (M371) -obsolete NNS Barama (M372) -obsolete NNS Ambe (LST1312) -obsolete henry, why is 90% of your fleet obsolete? Why is 50% of that non-operational? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:23pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: been posted before Stop wasting my time. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:33pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Nope, you NEVER posted it ! Each Cuban mechanic is paid 360,000 Rands per year plus free house, free transport, and free mobile phone, How many Zulu mechanics earn that much? Even your senior army officers earn far less than that ! 100 Cuban mechanics X 360,000 Rands X 3 years...add free house, free transport, free mobile phones....Show me a Zulu mechanic tat earns that much in his life time !!!!! SANDF is paying Cuba heavily because South African defence industry CANNOT repair it's own Samil truck product, you need Cuban help . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:36pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: What are you going to do when I quote where it was posted before? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:49pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
jln115: 30 year old obsolete ship, big metal junk |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:52pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Which tank did SA build? Used by which army? In service from what year? What is the NAME of the tank ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:57pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: South African NAVY is 50% obsolete....Oh my ! This comment makes me start my weekend fun today, can't wait till Friday o ! . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:58pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Address the issue. Why is half the South-African navy fleet obsolete? Project biro is an apartheid era project, it is still a paper project. You cannot replace ships with papers, it just can't happen. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:02pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: I will address the issue when you show me that Project Biro is an Apartheid ear project |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: Zulus got no brains. The SANDF has to import mechanics from a tiny island to fix vehicles 54 million South-Africans cannot fix. Their own products.... They need foreigners to repair their own products. So absurd! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:03pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: agaugust: So thats what you are going to do? You called me a liar When I told you the info had been posted again you called me a liar again When you realized I had posted it before you quickly changed topics. Apologize faggit |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:04pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: Yes, it is absurd because your argument is absurd! Thus, since you now realize you are being absurd, you are now prepared to realize that is not why they were imported! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Evidence has been posted, Andrewza, your navy sailor also confirms project biro is an apartheid era project. Search the archives Project biro which doesn't even exist seeks to replace 3 IPVs. We know half your fleet is supposed to be replaced, In essence 3 vessels represents South-Africa's navy fleet. LMFAO This is beyond pathetic! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:05pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: So then NNS Thunder and Okobugugug are both 60 year old obsolete ships, big metal junk ; OMG THINK BEFORE YOU POST! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:07pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: Where was the evidence posted? AndrewZA disagreed with you as well Project Biro seeks 3 IPV's and 3 OPV's as well as 1 Survey vessel. In essence you are being ridiculous... which means we have reached that stage of the argument again, where you have run out of ammunition and have to start being ludicrous in order to keep posting. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:08pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Thiza: Dude, THALES is an European company owned by France. They only opened branch in South Africa. They own you actually. If France withdraws the technology you import from them, THALES South Africa will collapse totally. Your long list of SA defence industries is mostly full of those producing police batons, uniforms, kit, etc The only strong companies are Denel, German Rheinmetall, French THALES, Swedish SAAB Grintech, British BAE, The rest are too tiny. Meanwhile, check out Nigeria's shipyards where we make IPVs, MPVs and soon to build a Landing Ship LST !!! I am sure you never expected such huge defence manufacturing and maintenance industry to be in Nigeria. Shock you !!! . 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:08pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Patchesagain: How can foreigners be imported to fix your own vehicles? It simply means there are simply no Zulus out of a 54 million population remotely intelligent enough to fix your military vehicles. This is a national security issue. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:10pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
agaugust: Empty words insult no one |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:11pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Henry240: So, let me get this straight YOU say that your argument is absurd But now you continue to make the same argument? Citations have been posted as to why the Cubans are here, stop wasting our time with your childishness. Only 7 operational NAF platforms, only 50% naval operational fleet, soldiers using 40 y/o ammunition... now those are National security issues 1 Like |
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