Patchesagain:


So then NNS Thunder and Okobugugug are both 60 year old obsolete ships, big metal junk ;

OMG THINK BEFORE YOU POST!

Inside NNS Okpabana

Patchesagain:


Project Biro seeks 3 IPV's and 3 OPV's as well as 1 Survey vessel.

Nigeria is buying 1 new Survey vessel and building 1 news Landing Ship 2016.

Nigeria just bought brand new 100 IPVs in 3 months of 2016, Jan-Feb-Mar 2016....you have not bought 3 IPVs after 23 years of struggle on project Biro....your navy is dead, that is why India bypassed you to sign maritime security working deal with Nigeria.

Henry240:


Inside NNS Okpabana

And this proves what?

You have navigational equipment made in the last 15 years and a pair of binoculars?

WOW
CLAP
SO IMPRESSED

agaugust:


Dude, THALES is an European company owned by France. They only opened branch in South Africa. They own you actually. If France withdraws the technology you import from them, THALES South Africa will collapse totally.

Your long list of SA defence industries is mostly full of those producing police batons, uniforms, kit, etc

The only strong companies are Denel, German Rheinmetall, French THALES, Swedish SAAB Grintech. The rest are too tiny.

Meanwhile, check out Nigeria's shipyards where we make IPVs, MPVs and soon to build a Landing Ship LST !!!

I am sure you never expected such huge manufacturing and maintenance industry to be in Nigeria. Shock you !!!
.

Zulus who aren't smart enough to repair common trucks, cannot in their lifetime hope to build facilities such as this. It just won't happen.


......And this is not even our largest facility.

agaugust:


[s]Nigeria is buying 1 new Survey vessel and building 1 news Landing Ship 2016.

Nigeria just bought brand new 100 IPVs in 3 months of 2016, Jan-Feb-Mar 2016....you have not bought 3 IPVs after 15 years of struggle on project Biro....your navy is dead, that is why India bypassed you to sign maritime security working deal with Nigeria.[/s]

Nigeria bough 100 speed boats

India bypassed us? Really? So is that why we are on our way to India and China for exercises and you are not?

Henry240:


[s]Zulus who aren't smart enough to repair common trucks, cannot in their lifetime hope to build facilities such as this. It just won't happen.


......And this is not even our largest facility.[/s]

Epic Strawman you built yourself.

Pity even the birds can see it for what it is.

Patchesagain:


And this proves what?

You have navigational equipment made in the last 15 years and a pair of binoculars?

WOW
CLAP
SO IMPRESSED

Completely digital!!


I know you don't understand what a digital ship is seeing half of your your fleet which comprises 3 solitary vessels is obsolete.

Henry240:


Inside NNS Okpabana

Bang ! Super !

Henry240:


Completely digital!!


I know you don't understand what a digital ship is seeing half of your your fleet which comprises 3 solitary vessels is obsolete.

4 Valour Class
3 Type 209SAN

But yeah, keep parading your 60 year old ship around.. i am sure you will impress someone eventually

Are you so intellectually barren that you are sticking to your whole "SAN has only 6 ships" or "Biro is only getting 3" argument?

Really bro? Really?

Patchesagain:


So, let me get this straight

YOU say that your argument is absurd

But now you continue to make the same argument?

Citations have been posted as to why the Cubans are here, stop wasting our time with your childishness.

Only 7 operational NAF platforms, only 50% naval operational fleet, soldiers using 40 y/o ammunition... now those are National security issues

Mumu,


Address the issue and stop moving goal post. Why do you need the tiny nation of cuba to repair the vehicles you claim to have manufactured yourselves?


Is the zulu brain shortage this chronic.

Half your fleet, 3 vessels...... Lolz, that's half your fleet( LMFAO) ...... is obsolete.

Why is this?

agaugust:


Bang ! Super !

But you yourself said it was a 60 year old scrap iron ship!

Patchesagain:


Nigeria bough 100 speed boats

India bypassed us? Really? So is that why we are on our way to India and China for exercises and you are not?

IPVs are usually like speed boats dummy, or you use Frigate as IPV for inshore shallow waters patrol? Fool.

Nigeria bought 100 IPVs in 3 months , South Africa is still seeking to buy 3 IPVs in 23 years

India signed a long term joint operation deal with Nigerian navy, but for you, they gave 1 week visiting visas
.

Patchesagain:


Where was the evidence posted?

AndrewZA disagreed with you as well

Project Biro seeks 3 IPV's and 3 OPV's as well as 1 Survey vessel.

In essence you are being ridiculous... which means we have reached that stage of the argument again, where you have run out of ammunition and have to start being ludicrous in order to keep posting.

Andrewza confirms this.


Project biro does not exist. Can we please discuss vessels that actually exist...... Like your obsolete, half naval fleet?

Henry240:


Mumu,


Address the issue and stop moving goal post. Why do you need the tiny nation of cuba to repair the vehicles you claim to have manufactured yourselves?

Cubans are cheaper than private sector

We have told you this half a dozen times.

Henry240:

Half your fleet, 3 vessels...... Lolz, that's half your fleet( LMFAO) ...... is obsolete.

Why is this?

Where are you getting this number of "3" from?

Dude, it is now quite obvious that you dont actually have anything left in this discussion.

Patchesagain:


Why did SAAB buy Grintek? For fun?

To export more into your market like they sold Gripen to you and make money from you by overpriced stuff

agaugust:




South African NAVY is 50% obsolete....Oh my ! This comment makes me start my weekend fun today, can't wait till Friday o !
.

LMFAO!!!

That icon is sooo hilarious!!!!

Henry240:


Andrewza confirms this.


Project biro does not exist. Can we please discuss vessels that actually exist...... Like your obsolete, half naval fleet?

Quote where he confirmed it.

Last time you said that he himself called you out for telling lies!

Project Biro is nearing completion, deal with it.

And what of your 90% obsolete fleet?

Henry240:


LMFAO!!!

That icon is sooo hilarious!!!!

Still celebrating your discovery of the obvious?

Omg, you guys really are desperate.

Patchesagain:


So thats what you are going to do?

You called me a liar

When I told you the info had been posted again you called me a liar again

When you realized I had posted it before you quickly changed topics.

Apologize faggit

For what? I proved you wrong.

You are a known liar all over Nairaland

agaugust:


Nigeria is buying 1 new Survey vessel and building 1 news Landing Ship 2016.

Nigeria just bought brand new 100 IPVs in 3 months of 2016, Jan-Feb-Mar 2016....you have not bought 3 IPVs after 23 years of struggle on project Biro....your navy is dead, that is why India bypassed you to sign maritime security working deal with Nigeria.

Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Every month is a project biro for the Nigerian navy!


Hopelessness of the South-African navy.

Patchesagain:


Nigeria bough 100 speed boats

India bypassed us? Really? So is that why we are on our way to India and China for exercises and you are not?

You know india invited us to carry out joint training exercises with their special forces.


So not only do we get to jointly design and build 2 ships, our special forces get to train regularly with each other.


That's what we call a kung-fu by pass of the SAN!

agaugust:


For what? I proved you wrong.

You are a known liar all over Nairaland

You proved me wrong?

Ok, what are you going to do when I quote where:

1. the source was posted here before
2. the source says they are cheaper?

Tell me what you will do and I will post it straight away

Henry240:


Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Every month is a project biro for the Nigerian navy!


Hopelessness of the South-African navy.

Really?

Last I checked you only got 2 new OPV's (not 3)... and you didnt build either of them

And you have yet to buy brand new IPV's

O, yeah mean in terms of tiny boats and ancient rust buckets? lol, Yeah i guess so then

Henry240:


You know india invited us to carry out joint training exercises with their special forces.


So not only do we get to jointly design and build 2 ships, our special forces get to train regularly with each other.


That's what we call a kung-fu by pass of the SAN!

1. We allready train with their SF, and have annual full spectrum military exercises

2. Weird, India does not build the ships you have agreed to build with them

So by "bypass" you actually mean "sign an agreement South Africa signed ~6 years ago"

Patchesagain:


4 Valour Class
3 Type 209SAN

But yeah, keep parading your 60 year old ship around.. i am sure you will impress someone eventually

Are you so intellectually barren that you are sticking to your whole "SAN has only 6 ships" or "Biro is only getting 3" argument?

Really bro? Really?

Is this why your fleet is 50% obsolete?


3 IPVs equals 50% of your navy fleet.

You claimed your non-existent project biro is meant to replace half your obsolete fleet, not me.


Project biro calls for the replacement of 3 IPVs.


You shot yourself in both feet, not me.

Henry240:


Is this why your fleet is 50% obsolete?


3 IPVs equals 50% of your navy fleet.

You claimed your non-existent project biro is meant to replace half your obsolete fleet, not me.


Project biro calls for the replacement of 3 IPVs.


You shot yourself in both feet, not me.

Ok, so where does it say Biro calls for only 3 ships?

agaugust:


IPVs are usually like speed boats dummy, or you use Frigate as IPV for inshore shallow waters patrol? Fool.

Nigeria bought 100 IPVs in 3 months , South Africa is still seeking to buy 3 IPVs in 23 years

India signed a long term joint operation deal with Nigerian navy, but for you, they gave 1 week visiting visas
.

Patchesagain:


Cubans are cheaper than private sector

We have told you this half a dozen times.






Where are you getting this number of "3" from?

Dude, it is now quite obvious that you dont actually have anything left in this discussion.

360,000 rand isn't cheap you fool!

Provide evidence that supports your claim, for all we know you do not have the required skill set to fix your own vehicles.


You gave the number.

agaugust:


To export more into your market like they sold Gripen to you and make money from you by overpriced stuff

They bough JF-17 thunders for 67 million a pop. LOL!

agaugust:


[s]IPVs are usually like speed boats dummy, or you use Frigate as IPV for inshore shallow waters patrol? Fool.

Nigeria bought 100 IPVs in 3 months , South Africa is still seeking to buy 3 IPVs in 23 years

India signed a long term joint operation deal with Nigerian navy, but for you, they gave 1 week visiting visas [/s]
.

lol, maybe in Nigeria an IPV is a speed boat

Not in RSA - ours will be 50-60m with a 30mm cannon, VTOL-UAV's and dragged sonar array... you got anything like that?

No?

Ok

Henry240:


360,000 rand isn't cheap you fool!

Provide evidence that supports your claim, for all we know you do not have the required skill set to fix your own vehicles.


You gave the number.

Compared to the private sector cost it is cheap.

What will you do when I show you that the source has been posted?

Henry240:


They bough JF-17 thunders for 67 million a pop. LOL!

We bought 3rd Gen daylight interceptors?

When!?!?!

This is news to me