Patchesagain:


Yet again,

You make a fallacious argument:



Yet that is not what heitman said! Quote what he said!

Dude, you cant even maintain a consisten argument!

And the Admiral who runs the project is an old Apartheid Era White man... so that ruins your racist arguments!

Whilst finally, we see our selves in the position where Henry is saying that the word of one man beats all the studies and opinions of all other scientists and Admirals!!

This reeks of petty envy to me

Henry240:
[s]When We Nigerians say you Zulus are brain dead dullards, we actually mean it.



The Centre for Human Rights, University of Pretoria, UP, says
Romola Adeola is its youngest doctoral graduate. In a
statement on its website, the centre said: “Romola Adeola,
26, has set a record in being the youngest person to obtain a
Doctor of Laws degree (LLD) in the 30-year history of the
Centre for Human Rights.
Furthermore, she is only the 2nd youngest person to achieve
this in the Faculty of Law, UP, since its establishment 107
years ago. She distinguished herself by completing the LLD
in under 3 years. During her undergraduate years at Lagos
State University (LASU), she was the Best Student in
International Law.
Romola’s relationship with the Centre for Human Rights
began from her participation in the 2008 African Human
Rights Moot Court Competition. In 2012, she was selected as
a DAAD scholar to study for the LLM/MPhil degree in Human
Rights and Democratisation in Africa.

She graduated cum laude, earning two awards: the Kéba
M’Baye award for the overall Best Dissertation and the
Victor Dankwa prize for the Best Performance in the
module: Human Rights in Africa. Her excellent record earned
her admission to the Centre’s doctoral programme in 2013.
In her PhD thesis, she analyzed the obligation in article 10 of
the African Union Convention in relation to the Protection
and Assistance of Internally Displaced Persons in Africa. She
has given interviews, presented papers at international
conferences and been the voice of the Centre on issues of
internally displaced persons, migrants and refugees. .


During her time here, she led the Disability Rights Clinic and
served as Alumni Coordinator. In this latter capacity, she led
a campaign calling for the release of prominent Swazi
human rights activist – Thulani Maseko, and raised funding
to support his family.
She attributes her success to her supportive parents,
personal discipline, perseverance and prayer. In her words,
‘be faithful to God, be true to yourself and be of service to
humanity.’ She also holds two diplomas from Åbo Akademi
University.”


Source: http://www.trezzyblog.com/2016/02/26-year-old-
lasu-alumnus-emerges.html


Cc: Agaugust, Lezz, Iblawi[/s]

iblawi:

You should be the 1 to shut up. Do you think we are kids here? 60m ship is what South Africans call IPV.

Henry240:


“the three 60 m IPVs now
envisaged as part of Biro are an embarrassing misstep by
the Navy and will be an entirely pointless expenditure,”

Henry240:


Address the question. Do you people even know what an IPV is?

Patchesagain:


Because of sea conditions - as confirmed by the Admiral in charge of the Operation.

IPVs will cover the current roles of the Warrior Class (60m) and the River Class (48m)

Hence the IPV will be sized inbetween these two vessels!!

While the OPV's will provide a new capability of a Frigate sized vessel for long range patrolling.

The Admiral in charge is an old white man... so that also wrecks your racist "dull zulu's" argument

[size=15pt]I think its pretty disgusting that you are having to make up stuff (only getting 3, they will be 60m) just for the sake of having an argument [/size]

jln115:
Yes.

Henry240:


No, you don't!

Henry240:


[s]-The boat cannot go out to sea because it is a small vessel,

-It cannot swim in shallow waters because it is to large.


Your inept generals do not apply any thought process before making decisions. A boat that is incapable of carrying out it's requirements is a turkey.


White man with Zula brains, not to be unexpected. Nothing surprising here.



"The offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) are too few. “They are
relatively small ships and will be limited in their ability to
conduct patrols far from home without either a base or a
local support arrangement, or a support ship in company.
he stated."


Just to be clear you actually do not have any of these boats in service, nor has a contract even been signed to procure any.[/s]

Patchesagain:


According to a man who has never served a single day in the navy


The admiral, at a briefing in late 2008, added the Navy would seek to have the Project Biro vessels built in SA, and perhaps the Project Hotel hydrographic vessel as well, if the final specification was close enough to that of the OPV to allow it. Size-wise the OPV was expected to measure between 80 and 85m in length, and the IPV 53 to 55m. "The OPV must be able to carry a helicopter. The moment you talk about carrying a helicopter, you're talking of a ship 80-85 metres. The size of the IPVs by contrast is a function of the sea conditions, available money and so forth," he said - The Navy's Chief Director Maritime Strategy, Rear Admiral Bernhard Teuteberg

Henry240:


No, you don't!

Patchesagain:


- Same size as the current OPV's which go to sea all the time

- Similar size as the minesweeps that do just that.

Really? If the requirements are for a vessel of that size then it has met its requirements. What kind of double think are you applying here?

Again, you are saying that Heitman (with no naval experience) knows more than an Admiral (with over 30 years).

You lost this argument a long time ago

Henry240:


You guys are all a bunch of confused illiterates!



You don't even know the size of the boat you claim to be getting. Multiple claims, multiple distortions feeds into what we already know is an inept navy.

First get the size of your imaginary boats right, then come back for a debate.

Patchesagain:


IPV to be a minimum length of 50m armed with 30mm cannon
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6141:navy-needs-survey-ship-pvs-by-2015-&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

Towed sonar array tested for Biro as well as VTOL drone testing has been well documented in this thread and the other one.

Why would we come to you to look at speed boats?

first follow the debate, then comment on it

Henry240:


A man from a country whose Navy/institutions are confused about the size of boats they claim to be procuring is talking about a lost argument.


Lol..... Hilarious!

Patchesagain:


The only confused person here is you.

You pulled 60m out of your arse... just like you pulled "Porject Biro is for only 3 ships" out of your arse

LOL - EXPOSED

Henry240:


However, when it comes to the inshore patrol vessels (IPVs),
Heitman is of the opinion that[b] “the three 60 m IPVs[/b] now
envisaged as part of Biro



When you brainless zulus can get the size of your own IPVs right, you can come back for a debate.

Patchesagain:
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Henry240:


Brainless white boy, or is it coloured you are?


My source is Defenceweb.co.za, talk about back firing. LOL!

Patchesagain:


So what you are showing us is that YOUR source cant get the size of the IPV's right, all SAN sources cite the vessel size as 50-55m

Wow, I havent seen an argument back-fire this hard in ages

Henry240:


Booo huuuu!!! You reported, congratulations.

Patchesagain:

Racism is the last refuge of a weak mind

Henry240:


Far from it, I'm not even remotely racist.

Patchesagain:


You really want to get into a racial discussion with a white? Do you think that is a good idea?

Your source is an opinion peice written by a man with no naval experience (and who obviously does not know much about OP Biro)

My source is a SAN Admiral as well as a report on the tender bidding process.

You just got absolutely rekd

Henry240:


I'm never one to shy away from a challenge, bring it on! But are you sure you have the mental capacity to challenge a Nigerian?



My source is defenceweb.co.za. You brainless zulus should get your own facts you claim to know right, then we can have an argument.

Patchesagain:


So generalizing that a particular race is not intelligent is not racist?

Lol

Anyway, how does it feel to realize that despite the official details being posted days ago, you have been rambling on about "60m IPV's" for a full 24 hours?

Read the posts
Understand the posts
Comment accordingly

Henry240:


My source is defenceweb, can you dispute that?

Patchesagain:


Your source is the opinion of Heitman as conferred via the medium of Defenceweb

My source is the FACTS of the tender as told to us by the SAN Admiral running the program as conferred via Defenceweb.


You fvcking id1ot, we told you days ago!! Hahahahahahahah, too dense to follow even a simple argument

Henry240:


Retaard, you are arguing with yourself. In real life this behaviour is considered as insanity.


Point still remains you South-Africans should first get your facts in order. When it is harmonised, then we can argue. My source which is South-African is from 2015.

Patchesagain:


Brah please.

- One of NASA's youngest engineers
- developed a brand new rocket fuel
- has a planet named after him

Went to school with him, top lad.

GET ON OUR LEVEL FAGGIT