| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Nobody: 11:48am On Feb 08, 2016 |
Difference is one is a Diploma the Other is a Degree.  1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by funkyglitz: 11:49am On Feb 08, 2016 |
Otsealu1:
@Funkygliz its good you read something very well to get the message before saying anything. Like I said earlier, my annoyance was that we were invited for the interview when they knew HND holders were not needed. And mind you i just dropped my CV when the building was still under construction
babe I understand what you meant and like u said you went to submit your CV while the company is still under construction meaning no vacancy yet because they haven't advertised yet but you went ahead to submit and also the companys fault for collecting all sort of CV without specification....so my point is your trying to bring up hnd and bsc discrimination which is certainly not called for and besides I have seen couple of advert that said just hnd holders should apply and u didn't open a thread for discrimination o. in BTW am not good to quote people so pls I understand your plight. 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by don4real18(m): 11:50am On Feb 08, 2016 |
In sincerity, I did not want to make a comment but I just guess you will truly need an advice.
Don't look down on yourself because of what happened because there are many BSc graduates out there who didn't study what they actually wanted but because of the challenges of securing admission, studied it nevertheless.
Look at your surroundings, identify the challenges and get back to me..... Let me make an entrepreneur out of you who will begin to employ BSc graduates within a short period of time 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Nobody: 11:58am On Feb 08, 2016 |
funskill:
HND is actually equivalent to a year 2 undergraduate going for BS.c, confirm it on google or wikipedia Very True |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by ucnwafor(m): 12:15pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Ephemmm:
Bill gate never went to a University, but now he is the world richest man. Albert Estein went to Polytechnic Of Munich, but he later lectured at HAVARD. Charles Lecobucier went to a Polytechnic, but today he is the most greatest ARCHITECT of all time. Nikolas tesla began his career at a polytechnic, but he later a drop out of school, but today he is on of the greatest ENGINEER OF ALL TIME. Also, most tertiary institution in Europe and Asia are all Technical not theoritical orienteted e.g Technical Univesity Of Munich,MADRID,Polytechnic University Of Instanbul,China e.t.c......also most of the best research institution in the world e.g Havard,Stanford Univesity,MIT,CALIFONIA INSTITUTE OF TECH e.t.c are all based on european polytechic model,that is why you see a secondary school graduate in china,europe building and making technological device,and a Nigerian Elect/elect University Graduate will not be able to assemble a simple electric CIRCUIT.
Oyedepo is an OND holder
Sam Adeyemi is an HND holder
Ogun State governor is an HND holder
Oyo State governor is an HND holder
Bill Gate dropped out of school
Nice withdrew from UNILAG while in 200level
I knew some Universities satellite campuses which offer admission to students based on 5 credits in NECO back in the year 2008/2009 without writing JAMB at the initial stage. University of Ibadan: Ilesha Campus, University of Uyo Satellite Campuses, OAU, Adeyemi College of Education campus etc were perfect example as at then: why the fuss?
My brother who is an English Lecturer in one of Nigerian Universities did not have Credit in English Language up till date and he did not hide it from us: he obtained preliminary form and he was given English Language as a course of study latter.
Don't be surprised, some Polytechnic students have better qualifications and professional wherewithal than you: how people like you reason despite being the product of self-acclaimed University is surprising:
gbam!! bros u nailed it mehn! I feel good tararararararararara!! |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by iblife: 12:22pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]
When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting 
#bittertruth truly speaking...you need head dryer treatment. What a derogatory contribution. 2 Likes |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by GboyegaD(m): 12:25pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]
When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting
#bittertruth It would have been better you kept quiet than this gibberish you wrote. Her complain was calling her for an interview when they knew they don't want to hire HND graduates. You should have complained about the inefficiency of the HR rather than thinking and trying to prove you are better than HND graduates. 5 Likes |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by juliuscarter(m): 12:30pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
The best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too ;DThe best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by cmoney22222: 12:38pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Jj carter. Cmoney was here juliuscarter:
The best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too ;DThe best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by advanceDNA: 12:45pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Seriously...I dnt see discrimination here....last time checked.. OND= ordinary national diploma HND=higher national diploma Is there a need to stress this again It's called a Diploma!!!!!!!!!!! There's no country where diploma nd university degree is seen as the same or carry same weight. There was never a time where the any education body or the federal government made a diploma nd university thesame... a company that wants a degree holder for a particular job position isn't discriminating...do u know how may times I've tried applying for a job in ExxonMobil mobil nd they say they want only HND, same for BAT...nd there are times they want BSc....just deal with it...every job post has its specification... 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by juliuscarter(m): 12:46pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
cmoney22222:
Jj carter. Cmoney was here
Correct! i sight u |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by bilazego(m): 12:51pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
l blame GEJ and IPOB guys for this discrimination between HND & Bsc holders |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by smsshola(m): 12:56pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
chigoizie7:
Then, polytechnics should be scrapped in the 1st place, what the point of after getting an HND, u den move to degree, it makes no sense.
I understand your point though, but it still make no sense. If all HND holders should go for degree then, HND should be scrapped.
What we need is the Govt to make their policy straight and clear. One man course is everyone's course. There is no blaming OP on this. If poly's were not made available,no one will attend it. My bros that is why u see an average Nigeria rich man will not put any of his Kid in polytechnic and even if the do they av other alternative. Bros though it is not a good thing to av HND and then u go back for degree but the best way to correct the anomaly is to go back and obtained d society place more emphasis on. The truth is the man who gave me the advice finish from Kad poly in 1976 and he told me since then the inequalities has bn there but till date nothing significant has bn done. So bros why wait for policy to limit and put the blame on society..take for instance my case if av not help my self and go back to sch I wl still a contract staff in the banking sector,but that decision help me so far am now a BO. I know its difficult but bros my advice to poly student is stop at ND do direct to uni after the diploma. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by scobaba: 12:56pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:
Please what is "cash tellering"? Some banks call it cash and teller. The section that pays and receives cash from customer. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Otsealu1(f): 1:02pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
stonecoldcafe:
Why didn't you write and pass JAMB? Keep learning your bead work please. Focus more on necklace, ear ring and hand chain. Leave tote bags (aint fashionable) alone. God bless That thing you saw there is a centre rugg |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Ezeibe(m): 1:13pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
One thing you should understand in life is that no one owes you anything, anywhere .......... Move on |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by henrybomb(m): 1:24pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Otsealu1:
Imagine, I was invited for an interview. In a place i dropped my CV while the organisation was still under construction. On friday i got a text from them inviting me for an interview and the instruction was that you come with two passport and nothing more. But on getting there the HR started asking for CV's and original certificates which he succeded in using to chase most people away and then he came up with the big one "If you are an HND holder please leave" and this was the same organisation that invited me, i didnt apply o, na CV I drop. My question is what crime has HND holders committed? |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by chigoizie7(m): 1:26pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Omagzee:
you nailed it bro. ONE grate of orijin for u. Lol, thanks bro, but "life" would be better. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by henrybomb(m): 1:27pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Otsealu1:
Imagine, I was invited for an interview. In a place i dropped my CV while the organisation was still under construction. On friday i got a text from them inviting me for an interview and the instruction was that you come with two passport and nothing more. But on getting there the HR started asking for CV's and original certificates which he succeded in using to chase most people away and then he came up with the big one "If you are an HND holder please leave" and this was the same organisation that invited me, i didnt apply o, na CV I drop. My question is what crime has HND holders committed? I wonder wen dis HND and BSC madness will stop..do dey want us to regret dat we went to a polytechnic but God pass dem don't worry u will get a better job 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by chigoizie7(m): 1:33pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
smsshola:
My bros that is why u see an average Nigeria rich man will not put any of his Kid in polytechnic and even if the do they av other alternative. Bros though it is not a good thing to av HND and then u go back for degree but the best way to correct the anomaly is to go back and obtained d society place more emphasis on. The truth is the man who gave me the advice finish from Kad poly in 1976 and he told me since then the inequalities has bn there but till date nothing significant has bn done.
So bros why wait for policy to limit and put the blame on society..take for instance my case if av not help my self and go back to sch I wl still a contract staff in the banking sector,but that decision help me so far am now a BO. I know its difficult but bros my advice to poly student is stop at ND do direct to uni after the diploma.
I got your point, "the heaven help those whose help themselves" I understand. Let us just advice everyone to forget anything OND and HND and then aim for a degree. As for your own case, u were just lucky(opportunity+hard work). U can't tell me that there are not many degree + masters holders that are out of job, I also know of people who work in places like FRSC, civil defence, immigration etc that are degree holders,but are working with OND, simply because there is no vacancy for degree holders, it is a two way thing, I also know one of my mum's friend, she started work with HND, she later went for degree, but ever since, she has been unable to convert, it is a two traffic scenario bro. Nevertheless, I still got your point. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by hyelhira: 1:34pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
You know nothing, Jon Snow Philadelphia! Don't be too smug in your ignorance son  . Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]
When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting
#bittertruth |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Eve62(f): 1:35pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]
When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting
#bittertruth I guess u are a degree holder. but do u know dat HND holders are more experienced. don't discriminate cos u just might be shocked dat dos guys could not afford HND holders. though I actually think it's there choice. 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by streamsofjoy(f): 1:37pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
funkyglitz:
Again??I don't see anything wrong if a company needs a particular set of people or class of degree is just like some companies will say they need private uni over federal uni just like a bank I went to submit cv they told me they don't collect my school CV,so I let it go still the same way some will advertise and tell you strictly for MSC or Lagos residents..... it's just normal my dear no need beating up yourself over that just believe in yourself because one day the opportunity will present itself #just my opinion # There is a big "wrong" in that. We are not to be reminded that in Nigeria an HND holder is seen as inferior to a degree holder- which in fact is not correct or even not true |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Bishops10(m): 1:44pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Copee:
When I see people saying they are going to the polytechnic, I cant just help but pity them. The discrimination in the labour market id massive. I finished ND and still wrote Jamb. Then I got admission to start 100L at University of Benin. My friends at the polytechnic were laughing at me saying that was backwardness. To cut the long story short, I have a very good job today and most of them are still at home and the few ones working are teachers. Sorry bro and I think the Government needs to do something about it. Bro what you did is exactly what am doing now,I just finished my ND and will be writing jamb this year to study Chemical Engineering in UniBen.Most of my friends don't think its a good idea though even my parents don't even know about it.wish I can come here latter this year and give testimony ....lol 1 Like |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by purpledferanmi1: 1:45pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Otsealu1:
Imagine, I was invited for an interview. In a place i dropped my CV while the organisation was still under construction. On friday i got a text from them inviting me for an interview and the instruction was that you come with two passport and nothing more. But on getting there the HR started asking for CV's and original certificates which he succeded in using to chase most people away and then he came up with the big one "If you are an HND holder please leave" and this was the same organisation that invited me, i didnt apply o, na CV I drop. My question is what crime has HND holders committed? Don't mind the hr manager, at least an HND holder is now the ooni of ife, God willing you will b d oba of Lagos. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by mena233(f): 1:51pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
juliuscarter:
The best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too ;DThe best thing for HND holders is to enroll for PGD then proceed for masters degree ...By then they can be higher than the so call Bsc holders unless they also apply for Masters too no. the best thing for HND and bsc graduate is to gain more experience in their area of specialty and try to be useful to themselves and the society |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by stonecoldcafe: 1:59pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Otsealu1:
That thing you saw there is a centre rugg You mean rug? Is that not bead work? Can you have a rug made out of beads? Would that be safe to step on? Or do you mean to say you are making a coaster? Oh well, whatever you're making good luck. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Philadelphia: 2:05pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
GboyegaD:
It would have been better you kept quiet than this gibberish you wrote. Her complain was calling her for an interview when they knew they don't want to hire HND graduates.
You should have complained about the inefficiency of the HR rather than thinking and trying to prove you are better than HND graduates. It's obvious you didn't read her whole story. Another evidence that you are a HND holder  |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by teebee22(f): 2:06pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
smsshola:
My candid advice to you is if its possible u change ur statues cos the policy will not change the only thing that can change is u..this is the same advice I got back then I obtained my HND back then but unfortunately I work with an organization who don't recognized the cert banking sector for ur info but my dear when I got advice I went back for my bsc and today I av finished the bsc wt 2.1 currently doing my MSc and glory be to God i got my promotion wt the bank.
Moral of the lesson is nothing will change except you my dear if u remain complaining about this believe me the policy will not change. HND and bsc syndrome in naija may not change now cos the issue has been there before now and it will be there for long. how did u convert from HND to bsc and wat are the basis or criteria to convert |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Philadelphia: 2:07pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Alexgeorgebsg:
Who told you that Nigerian Airforce does not recruit with B.S.c ? ND is for recruit level while B.S.c and HND are for commissioned officers also applicable in the NAVY I never said Nigerian Navy does not recruit B.Sc. I said they are recruiting for ND and not B.Sc. (Present continuous tense). |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Philadelphia: 2:10pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Chukazu:
ND is supposed to be the minimum requirement,so it is not the same scenario. In this case, ND is the maximum requirement and the minimum requirement is WASSCE. You didn't understand me. |
| Re: I Was Thrown Out Over Hnd And Bsc "Wahala" by Philadelphia: 2:11pm On Feb 08, 2016 |
Ephemmm:
Bill gate never went to a University, but now he is the world richest man. Albert Estein went to Polytechnic Of Munich, but he later lectured at HAVARD. Charles Lecobucier went to a Polytechnic, but today he is the most greatest ARCHITECT of all time. Nikolas tesla began his career at a polytechnic, but he later a drop out of school, but today he is on of the greatest ENGINEER OF ALL TIME. Also, most tertiary institution in Europe and Asia are all Technical not theoritical orienteted e.g Technical Univesity Of Munich,MADRID,Polytechnic University Of Instanbul,China e.t.c......also most of the best research institution in the world e.g Havard,Stanford Univesity,MIT,CALIFONIA INSTITUTE OF TECH e.t.c are all based on european polytechic model,that is why you see a secondary school graduate in china,europe building and making technological device,and a Nigerian Elect/elect University Graduate will not be able to assemble a simple electric CIRCUIT.
Oyedepo is an OND holder
Sam Adeyemi is an HND holder
Ogun State governor is an HND holder
Oyo State governor is an HND holder
Bill Gate dropped out of school
Nice withdrew from UNILAG while in 200level
I knew some Universities satellite campuses which offer admission to students based on 5 credits in NECO back in the year 2008/2009 without writing JAMB at the initial stage. University of Ibadan: Ilesha Campus, University of Uyo Satellite Campuses, OAU, Adeyemi College of Education campus etc were perfect example as at then: why the fuss?
My brother who is an English Lecturer in one of Nigerian Universities did not have Credit in English Language up till date and he did not hide it from us: he obtained preliminary form and he was given English Language as a course of study latter.
Don't be surprised, some Polytechnic students have better qualifications and professional wherewithal than you: how people like you reason despite being the product of self-acclaimed University is surprising:
Don't insult yourself. If you cannot answer the question I posed, don't quote me. |
