Philadelphia:


You forgot to add, "with an M.Sc "

swimcash:
sum pple funny o, say na so dem dey upgrade tins? u no knw say na so e b b4 u go get HND form? stil sayin it n wil continue 2 say it, u pple shld stop dis so called upgrading tins, it's nt late, u can stil get Ur bsc, do DAT n stop making noise. if e no b b.sc e no fit b lyk b.sc

Philadelphia:


Holyghost/ Amadioha? Just another confused HND holder.

Philadelphia:


I gave three instances and you saw only one. You must be a HND holder not to have seen the remaining two

Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]

When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting

#bittertruth

MadCow1:




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HND & OND.. = BSc. equivalent for the Educationally challenged.[/size]

_{I just want to make common sense..}

MadCow1:




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HND & OND.. = BSc. equivalent for the Educationally challenged.[/size]

_{I just want to make common sense..}

Amory:

You don't have to mention my name before insulting me...and what I said was an excerpt of what you've previously wrote.....if you as a university graduate lack practical skills doesn't mean we all do...so once again speak for yourself.

scobaba:
Dats the situation we see tuday.

Its in every sector of naija's economy.

Despite the fact that some very brilliant guys and ladies come out from polytechnics, they are still marginalised in working places. I remember when i was in banking, i was actually taught cash tellering by a HND holder. He was quite good and was the best out of all the tellers. Yet they never upgraded him. He was on a stagnant 50k for straight 3 yrs, while BSC holders like myself went from 130 to 200 to 350 in that 3 yrs. Infact they use him to train freshers with BSC who end up becoming his boss. There are so many other people like that in different sectors.

To be candid, i cant advise any friend or relative to apply fr polytechnics except the person wants to do personal business after that.
Yes polytechnics give the most practical training, but out der in working environment, the graduates are terribly marginalised.

herald9:
The problem with these polytechnics is that they admit anyone without any sort of test... How can an employer trust those sort of people.

And the level of runs and examination malpractice is something else.

The worst is that some of their course combination is just absurd....

Imagine my friend offering political science in the polytechnic but still doing chemistry as a general course.... How does chemistry and political science correlate?

I'll choose University to Poly over and over again...

bollyfolly:

I can see your level of childishness from your comment.

Eve62:


I guess u are a degree holder. but do u know dat HND holders are more experienced. don't discriminate cos u just might be shocked dat dos guys could not afford HND holders. though I actually think it's there choice.

tosyne2much:
In much as I wouldn't deny the fact that these two certifications are for different purposes. Nigeria is a country where certification is more worshipped than the holder himself/herself

Let's assume after cooking beans at night, you proceeded to buy bread and all shops seemed to have closed, and the only option left for you is opt for garri.
Does that necessarily mean you are poor and can't afford bread? Please when arguing, always try to think logically and justify yourself with reasonably points.


The truth of the matter is that, the fact that you were fortunate to attend a university does not put you in a position to demean other people. Life is dynamic, not even BSC will guarantee you a fulfilling and exotic life. Mind you, all fingers are not equal, everyone can't be destined to go to the polytechnic, the same way everyone cannot live in luxury


Lemme use myself as an example, I never intended to attend a polytechnic initially but circumstances prevented me despite all effort to have met the requirements. I later opted for polytechnic since age was no longer on my side. Does that put you in a position to say that I'm inferior or something? I guess what should matter most is that, as a BSC holder, can you sweep me off my feet?


Please note that not every student who opted for polytechnic didn't meet the requirements for university, and not every student in the university actually met the requirements. However, it's paramount to know that both polytechnics and universities produce half/full-baked graduates, so stop dwelling in the belief that only polytechnics produce half-baked graduates


When an argumentative scene like this occurs, every Tom, Dick and Harry who were fortunate to find themselves in the universities and thereby managed to graduate with grades they are not proud of, will start using vulgar and aggravating words to discriminate against others.


When you manage to find your way to the top, always try to respect other people for their inability t measure up to you. Life is not a bed of roses. You may fall today and they may be above you tomorrow



To each his own opinion

Ranchhoddas:
Any idiiot can bag an M.Sc in this you dolt.So an M.Sc is the sum total of your achievements and you come here to spew garbage. You are more foolish than I initially feared.

Hahaha

Philadelphia:


But not any idiot can get a HND. Keep fearing because that's what HND holders are best at.

E pain am die

Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]

When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting

#bittertruth

Asiri1991:
Sorry bro. Blame it on schools like Kogi State Poly, Abia Poly and Delta Poly. One can hardly believe that their graduates went to school during my service year. Ask anyone that served in Otuoke in 2015 (batchB/C) of Adejoh, Chinasa and Francis.

hahahaha funny u


School does not exemplify in their character abi?

tosyne2much:
In much as I wouldn't deny the fact that these two certifications are for different purposes. Nigeria is a country where certification is more worshipped than the holder himself/herself

Let's assume after cooking beans at night, you proceeded to buy bread and all shops seemed to have closed, and the only option left for you is opt for garri.
Does that necessarily mean you are poor and can't afford bread? Please when arguing, always try to think logically and justify yourself with reasonably points.


The truth of the matter is that, the fact that you were fortunate to attend a university does not put you in a position to demean other people. Life is dynamic, not even BSC will guarantee you a fulfilling and exotic life. Mind you, all fingers are not equal, everyone can't be destined to go to the polytechnic, the same way everyone cannot live in luxury


Lemme use myself as an example, I never intended to attend a polytechnic initially but circumstances prevented me despite all effort to have met the requirements. I later opted for polytechnic since age was no longer on my side. Does that put you in a position to say that I'm inferior or a dullard? I guess what we should be concerned about is that, as a BSC holder, can you sweep me off my feet and prove to me that you are academically better I am ?


Please note that not every student who opted for polytechnic didn't meet the requirements for university, and not every student in the university actually met the requirements. However, it's paramount to know that both polytechnics and universities produce half/full-baked graduates, so stop dwelling in the belief that only polytechnics produce half-baked graduates


When an argumentative scene like this occurs, every Tom, Dick and Harry who were fortunate to find themselves in the universities and thereby managed to graduate with grades they aren't even proud of, they will be the ones that will be arrogantly using vulgar and aggravating words to discriminate against others.


When you manage to find your way to the top, always try to respect other people for their inability to measure up to you. Life is not a bed of roses. You may unfortunately fall today and those you have demean may be fortunate to be above you tomorrow



To each his own opinion

ojinuocheibi:
another fool

scobaba:
Dats the situation we see tuday.

Its in every sector of naija's economy.

Despite the fact that some very brilliant guys and ladies come out from polytechnics, they are still marginalised in working places. I remember when i was in banking, i was actually taught cash tellering by a HND holder. He was quite good and was the best out of all the tellers. Yet they never upgraded him. He was on a stagnant 50k for straight 3 yrs, while BSC holders like myself went from 130 to 200 to 350 in that 3 yrs. Infact they use him to train freshers with BSC who end up becoming his boss. There are so many other people like that in different sectors.

To be candid, i cant advise any friend or relative to apply fr polytechnics except the person wants to do personal business after that.
Yes polytechnics give the most practical training, but out der in working environment, the graduates are terribly marginalised.

Philadelphia:


I gave 3 instances and you saw only 1. You are just another HND holder.

Ranchhoddas:
'Fearing'.What kind of abominable English is this? Na so you just waste your papa money get M.Sc. Which school did you get this M.Sc from because you deserve a refund ASAP.Collect your money and start English lessons immediately.

Ephemmm:


Bill gate never went to a University, but now he is the world richest man. Albert Estein went to Polytechnic Of Munich, but he later lectured at HAVARD. Charles Lecobucier went to a Polytechnic, but today he is the most greatest ARCHITECT of all time. Nikolas tesla began his career at a polytechnic, but he later a drop out of school, but today he is on of the greatest ENGINEER OF ALL TIME. Also, most tertiary institution in Europe and Asia are all Technical not theoritical orienteted e.g Technical Univesity Of Munich,MADRID,Polytechnic University Of Instanbul,China e.t.c......also most of the best research institution in the world e.g Havard,Stanford Univesity,MIT,CALIFONIA INSTITUTE OF TECH e.t.c are all based on european polytechic model,that is why you see a secondary school graduate in china,europe building and making technological device,and a Nigerian Elect/elect University Graduate will not be able to assemble a simple electric CIRCUIT.

Oyedepo is an OND holder
Sam Adeyemi is an HND holder
Ogun State governor is an HND holder
Oyo State governor is an HND holder
Bill Gate dropped out of school
Nice withdrew from UNILAG while in 200level

I knew some Universities satellite campuses which offer admission to students based on 5 credits in NECO back in the year 2008/2009 without writing JAMB at the initial stage. University of Ibadan: Ilesha Campus, University of Uyo Satellite Campuses, OAU, Adeyemi College of Education campus etc were perfect example as at then: why the fuss?

My brother who is an English Lecturer in one of Nigerian Universities did not have Credit in English Language up till date and he did not hide it from us: he obtained preliminary form and he was given English Language as a course of study latter.

Don't be surprised, some Polytechnic students have better qualifications and professional wherewithal than you: how people like you reason despite being the product of self-acclaimed University is surprising:

Ephemmm:


Bill gate never went to a University, but now he is the world richest man. Albert Estein went to Polytechnic Of Munich, but he later lectured at HAVARD. Charles Lecobucier went to a Polytechnic, but today he is the most greatest ARCHITECT of all time. Nikolas tesla began his career at a polytechnic, but he later a drop out of school, but today he is on of the greatest ENGINEER OF ALL TIME. Also, most tertiary institution in Europe and Asia are all Technical not theoritical orienteted e.g Technical Univesity Of Munich,MADRID,Polytechnic University Of Instanbul,China e.t.c......also most of the best research institution in the world e.g Havard,Stanford Univesity,MIT,CALIFONIA INSTITUTE OF TECH e.t.c are all based on european polytechic model,that is why you see a secondary school graduate in china,europe building and making technological device,and a Nigerian Elect/elect University Graduate will not be able to assemble a simple electric CIRCUIT.

Oyedepo is an OND holder
Sam Adeyemi is an HND holder
Ogun State governor is an HND holder
Oyo State governor is an HND holder
Bill Gate dropped out of school
Nice withdrew from UNILAG while in 200level

I knew some Universities satellite campuses which offer admission to students based on 5 credits in NECO back in the year 2008/2009 without writing JAMB at the initial stage. University of Ibadan: Ilesha Campus, University of Uyo Satellite Campuses, OAU, Adeyemi College of Education campus etc were perfect example as at then: why the fuss?

My brother who is an English Lecturer in one of Nigerian Universities did not have Credit in English Language up till date and he did not hide it from us: he obtained preliminary form and he was given English Language as a course of study latter.

Don't be surprised, some Polytechnic students have better qualifications and professional wherewithal than you: how people like you reason despite being the product of self-acclaimed University is surprising:

Sammyblaq:

I respect you for this scripting.

HND holders : U argue on such a matter when you don't know ur stand on ur certification.

Bsc holders : What makes you think you worth more than the other. Discard that in you and focus on ur course.

Different school...Different degree. Know that.

Thank God the both holders serve the nation.

You have said it all bro

RAFZY:
I dnt knw y people take pride in blowing grammer n recite in other's language whilst our's is dying, som wil complain u ar makin grammatical blonder, pls i wana ask is English ur language? we keep promotin western culture, we av becom consumers rather than manufacturers, we wana import everytin, pls where ar d holders of PHD, MSC, BSC and HND, we never focus on contributing to technological n economical advancement of this country, rather we derive joy in discriminating. Pls we ought to reason n lets focus on somtin more productive.

Philadelphia:
[size=20pt]The one big question has always been "Did they force you to go for a HND programme?"[/size]

When others wrote JAMB and passed it, why did you not write/ fail/ meet the cutoff? Since you can always go back to school, or convert your HND to a degree, I don't see the need for your ranting

#bittertruth