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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by scholes0(m): 8:55am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Who the Bleep is Esogban or Asagba , or whatever this 5th class chief of Bini's Oba chooses to call himself, who send am message? Even in The Republic of benin and Togo, that Politically were NOT part of modern day Nigeria, they cal their kings OBA.... Which is a Yoruba word that connotes "The act of Presiding over" Can this Esogban explain why that is? I blame His Royal Majesty, the Alake of Egbaland, if not, who go know say anything like esogbue exists.... mtcheew. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ahamonyeka(m): 8:55am On Feb 09, 2016 |
sparkleRed:read Nigeria peoples and culture. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aribisala0(m): 8:57am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Yorubas have borrowed words from their neighbours and vice versa. Nigeria is ethnically a crowded space. The word "Oba" has been in Yoruba lexicon for a long time whether it was borrowed? Who knows but it was not used as a honorific by any Yoruba kings that is a fact |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Ravenna: 8:57am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Ejemehn:The zoo is cracking.. We shall see where you'l stand later. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ihatesycophant(m): 8:57am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Until they tell us the meaning of Benin, Oba and the name of the first Oba that ruled them and where he came from, I won't believe them. Turning history upside down would not help them for reduce them as a clan without source. For those that want to read more check this and increase your knowledge. http://www.gamji.com/article4000/news4738.htm 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by HartIse(m): 8:58am On Feb 09, 2016 |
It's so painful that there isn't a way to screen out underage people from such fora. Even the Queens of England, the Portuguese, and other Europian leaders have duly recognized the Obas of the ancient Benin kingdom from time immemorial. A kingdom that singlehandedly waged war on the British leading to the Benin massacre of 1897 and theft of countless artifacts and records from the Kingdom. The fact you have the population doesnt mean you are more ancient, its like saying the USA is older or more culturally relevant than the UK. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 8:59am On Feb 09, 2016 |
DEGOV: This lie became oral history passed down because the chiefs wanted Edos to accept Oranmiyan, prince of Ife as their king. Do the maths yourself, Oduduwa from the East (Arabia, Egypt, Monroe - kush) came to Ife around 8th century and you are talking about after Ogisos' reigns in 12th century ( more than 400 years in between) Whereas 'Oduduwa' was a mystic name adopted by many rulers in Ife thousands of years before the coming of the one from the East due to the spread of Islamic religion not from Bini at all. 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by banmee(m): 9:00am On Feb 09, 2016 |
chowlade: "The exiled Prince Ekaladerhan died at Ogheton. Oranmiyan took up his abode in the palace built for him at Usama by the elders (now a coronation shrine). Soon after his arrival he married a beautiful lady, Erinmwinde, daughter of Osa-nego, was the ninth Enogie (Duke) of Ego, by whom he had a son. After some years residence here he called a meeting of the people and renounced his office, remarking that the country was a land of vexation, Ile-Ibinu (by which name the country was afterward known) and that only a child born, trained and educated in the arts and mysteries of the land could reign over the people. He caused his son born to him by Erinmwinde to be made King in his place, and returned to Yoruba land Ile-Ife. After some years in Ife, he left for Oyo, where he also left a son behind on leaving the place, and his son Ajaka ultimately became the first Alafin of Oyo of the present line, while Oranmiyan himself was reigning as Oni of Ife. Therefore, Oranmiyan of Ife, the father of Eweka I, the Oba of Benin, was also the father of Ajaka, the first Alafin of Oyo. Oni of Ife and Alafe of Oyo is a Bini spoken language all the Kings title in Southerner are Edo Language. In Nigeria Edo has the greatest and rich culture and most influence in West Africa and powerful King in Nigeria" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by chronique(m): 9:01am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Whoever taught you that nonsense as history,has only succeeded in messing up your brain. You need to strangle that person ASAP...lol. Edos were slaves to the yorubas? Where did you hear that nonsense from? That's totally ridiculous. When you talk about the Edos,you talk about true royalty. That's where I'm from. We were never slaves to yorubas at anytime. Edos are not yorubas,and are not part of the yorubas. The Oba of Benin is supreme to all the kings of yoruba land. The Oba of Benin doesn't pay obeisance or homage to anybody... kunlej2: 7 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by sparkleRed(f): 9:04am On Feb 09, 2016 |
ahamonyeka: I studied history nigeria pples and culture is just a preamble nt d in dept thing, am sure u re either a uniben graduate or a student of uniben, so it's just 4 gst purposes, read d textbook I wrote there, take it 4rm a history graduate of university of benin ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Juxtified(m): 9:04am On Feb 09, 2016 |
free2blast:Rest in peace bro, I have no use for you |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 9:04am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Yoruba people are quite dubious and they can claim things that have never been theirs. Bini Kingdom is one of the oldest kingdoms in sub Sahara Africa. Yorubas are settlers with borrowed culture and their version of history does not add up. 6 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YourNemesis: 9:06am On Feb 09, 2016 |
scholes0: Exactly. If one looks closely at the Yoruba and Bini Cultures, One sees that The etymology and Use of the word Oba is more enmeshed/Ingrained in the Yoruba culture that that of the Binis, which can only point to one thing.... the group and direction from which the word came into Benin's vocabulary. Take for Example, ALL KINGS in YORUBALAND are known as OBA ALADE........ In the areas ruled by Benin, who else is called Oba, apart from the ruler of Benin city and Benin alone? Even Auchi, Ekpoma, Urhomi that are other towns in the same Edo state, etc DO NOT call their kings Oba. I think original words for royalty in Edo languages are Ogiso, then Enogie, Ogie, Ovie etc.... 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 9:07am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: The binis migrated from Sudan. Their first place of settlement is somewhere around Jos in plateau state ( which still bear evidence of their staying there), before they finally settle down in present Edo state. from there they fought and conquered mant towns and and kingdoms. at the height of their peak, the bini empire stretches from Dahomey (Present day Benini Republic) to Asaba, from okene (kogi) to the river-line areas in Delta state. In those days, taxes are normally collected from conquered areas by Bini princes and returned to the palace. It was during one of such voyage to dahomey to collect taxes that Eko ( Lagos) was founded. Till date the Oba of Lagos still takes command from the Oba of Benin. Binis have a well documented evidence of their origin and history which are everywhere up till today. 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Ravenna: 9:07am On Feb 09, 2016 |
scholes0:Leave esogan/asaga aside. How is it possible for a minority specie to claim he is superior to the grand specie?! For every 1 edo man, there's 1m yoruba man. Let em keep deceiving themselves, i pray naija break up one day and every body goes their way. 6 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by seunajia: 9:08am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Anayordike: Dude WTF!? Your retort makes no sense. Olusegun Obasanjo when was he born? ![]() Obafemi Awolowo, when was he born? ![]() This is what you get when people don't do critical thinking. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Biafrarep(m): 9:10am On Feb 09, 2016 |
The Arrogance of D people on D waste side is really nauseting. What the Alake said is very wrong. Now look at the heluva of insult he brought upon himself & his group. Chai, the Oba of Benin no get joy at all. 1st, he delegated the third in command to reply the Alake. 2nd, He told them that Benin people has nothing in common with them. 3rd, he said every tom, dick & harry now bear Oba in the waste even when D name is alien to them. 4th, he called D ooni his son & that they are not in the same class. 5th, D Oba voluntered to provide palace teachers that will educate the Alake or any other "Oba" on their history since they have lost touch. Finally, the Oba of Benin provided unasailable facts & figures to buttress all the points he made. LWKMD, our waste brothers should channel their energy in getting back Illorin that was forcefully taking from them rather than this shameful land grabbing attempt on D Benin people. This is called brutality in mortal combat. Wow never knew there were real & fake Obas!!! 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by pointwise: 9:10am On Feb 09, 2016 |
[quote author=gcode123 post=42751594]But in yoruba, oba is the word for king not their title. Alake of Egbaland Awujale ijebu Etc. [/quooba King in yorubaland is called "OBA" each oba also have a throne title like Alaafin Oyo. Meaning of oba in Yoruba is "to reign over" i.e. kabiyesi (unquestionable) because he reign over everything in his domain, the Yoruba history is not confusing and benin kingdom is part of it. Long live all our kings , may your reigns be long and fruitful . kade pelori oba!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by kajoula(m): 9:11am On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: I HOPE THIS OP CAN TREAD WATER...BECAUSE ORIGIN CAN PROPEL SOMEBODY HERE IN LAGOS. ![]() |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by free2blast(m): 9:12am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Juxtified:Still same old senseless talk. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ODVanguard: 9:13am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Atlantian: Freeglobe, you and your obsession with Lagos!!!! So far no Benin/Edo person don bring up this Lagos matter because it is a non-issue that they dare not even raise. But due to Igbo land-grabbing obsession with Lagos you had to sneak that in. Look, no matter how hard you try, your people (Igbo) have no aboriginal connection with Lagos, and try as you may you can never distort nor rewrite her history to erase her Yoruba origin. You all obviously have nothing to be proud of in Igboland that you are so desperate to rewrite Lagos history for your selfish reasons. Igbos will always be settlers in Lasgidi and in due time you will all be deported back to Biafra. ![]() 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by bluaero(m): 9:14am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Ejemehn: My brother God will work tirelessly to bless you for this comment! 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by orlaryemy: 9:17am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Common sense should be a judge here; How can Oduduwa that arived in Ile-ife in 8th century be same as the prince that left in Bini in 12th century. For those who are claiming that Oduduwa fell from the skye, it is far from truth, the only person yoruba believed to have descended from heaven directly was Orunmila, if you care to know more about him you could do some research.That chief in Benin doesn`t what he is saying. 8 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by oluamid(m): 9:19am On Feb 09, 2016 |
tomholly: Small chance of that. Africans are not known to write down their history in text. Rather, they pass it down generations through word of mouth, folklore, song etc. @OP, What does it matter if one is Yoruba or Edo? We are all Nigerians. Be Edo if you want to be, be Yoruba if you want to be. How should it concern the next person, who e don help? I wonder why Nigerians just like to fight over trivial issues. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by imcam: 9:20am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Bro am highly informed by ur epistle, I just wish anybody can prove this wrong. U got me convinced, a very sound logical argument. 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by OPCNAIRALAND: 9:21am On Feb 09, 2016 |
PurpleHouse: Let me show you the official title of your king. They are correctly called Omo n'Oba nEdo ...and oh, talking of colonization. Are you aware that no Yoruba monarch throne has ever been sacked by an outsider? In 1897, did not Britain sack your king into exile? How about in 1967, didn't that were called Ojukwu sack your king's sovereingty and declated youd land a subject of Biafra? ![]() You live in a fragile house, you should not be the one throwing stone. ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YourNemesis: 9:21am On Feb 09, 2016 |
YourNemesis: I repeat. 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aribisala0(m): 9:22am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Nobody came from outside Nigeria , whether from Sudan or anywhere else. Let us put an end to that nonsense.There is no evidence for that people continue to mix up their bible stories with history. We are black NOT Arabs. Why not people going from Nigeria to other places? There is this incomprehensible need by Nigerians to seek to validate their existence from Israel or Sudan or Arabia. This is madness. Life Started in Nigeria. We did not come from anywhere Genetically we are very different from Arabs or Sudanese. There is evidence of human existence in Nigeria in archaeological digs going back more than 10000 years Rather than talk nonsense about Sudan our young people should explore more about what the NOK CULTURE was all about http://archive.archaeology.org/1107/features/nok_nigeria_africa_terracotta.html 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Ravenna: 9:23am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Atlantian:You said no tribe is superior? Are you for real?! You're saying there's no superiority btwn 50m and 5m?! Chai, sombody for your binin village don swear say you no go get sense this year. 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aribisala0(m): 9:26am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Ravenna:Please stop talking nonsense,also open a dictionary and check the word:"TRIBE" 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 9:27am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: EXACTLY! 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 9:28am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Is this Esogba or esogb.......whatever high on cheap Akure Weed? 4 Likes |
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