crowngold:
1937 PICTURE CAN'T TELL LIES.... Modern
day historical fabrication put to lie, by this
photograph(Ooni Adesoji Aderemi@centre,
To his left next is Colonial British, Governor
of Nigeria, next,Oba Akenzua of Benin and
Oba Ademola, Alake of Abeokuta, To Ooni's
right, Oba Oladigbolu, Alaafin of Oyo town,
and Oba Adesanya Gbelegbuwa, Awujale of
ijebu ode)...if their predecessors knew their
seniors as as far back as 1937 and even before, wherein lies the wisdom of
challenging what the Alake said.

seunajia:
The palace chief can please explain why the decapitated heads of past Obas of Benin were buried in Ife until recently.

But there's no need for attaché by force here. Yorubas are cool with Bini. This is just setting the record straight.

bendeniceguy:
This goes the same way you bloody cowards tell dirty lies in your desire to twist history and turn it on its head. Now, here is a simple question for you and your likes on here who love to run their dirty little fingers typing and filling up the worldwideweb with LIES drawn from the pit of HELL. You shamelessly claim that Lagos is yorubaland, now my question is, what is the yoruba name or title for Lagos? EKO? which is undoubtedly EDO(quarter or camp) or LAGOS which is Portuguese for lake. If Lagos is yorubaland like you all unashamedly claim everywhere,then tell the world why you have no name or title for that piece of real estate that is indigenous to you loud-mouthed yorubas. Ibadan is yorubaland no doubt same as Abeokuta, Illorin (funny) or Ijebu ode. Those are yoruba names or titles and thats why i challenge you to use this opprtunity to tell the WORLD your yoruba name or title for LAGOS or forever keep quiet when history and not FABLES is discussed anywhere. The Great OBAS of Benin are way and above any title or appellation you choose to hang on any of your yoruba ruler. By the way, ever cared to ask yourself why you have so many ADOS eg Ado Ekiti appended to your yoruba towns and cities? Go ask the Dahomians why they by-passed all of yorubaland to seek permission from the great OBA of Benin to rename the country the republic of BENIN and not the republic of Ijebu ode, Ibadan or Abeokuta. To hell with you and your sickening lies and brazen distortions of historical facts. You had this rebuttal coming.

riddler4real:
You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
I am a yoruba man and I am not ashamed to tell the truth.

The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?

Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne..... You do the math..

And please Oduduwa didnt come from Mecca or fall from the skies with a chain.

One of the problem with this part of Africa is the lack of detailed historical record and research

sybarite7:


Being a grown up entails letting go of certain issues rada dan arguing&fighting like toddlers.itz such a pity dere aint any rehabilitation center to tend to ur level of bitterness,ill character dat ooze&results in stench frm afar.pls child grow up,focus on ur buisness,discover ur career, build ur life to attain success&great personality.
I WISH U ,WAT IS WRITTEN ON UR SIGNATURE

EGBON IF U WANT THE KINGSHIP ,COM AND COLLECT

YoruBadGoon:


Yes, Bini people aren't Yoruba. But ya crown is a Yoruba crown and "Oba" is a Yoruba word.

Obalufon and Obamakin ruled Ife even before Oranmiyan who was the father of Eweka the first Oba of Bini. Obalufon head is older than any Bini head, based on carbon testing and the knowledge of Bini artworks came from Ife and Owo.

And Obatala was the supreme sky king even before Ogiso started claiming the sky.

You also worship Yoruba's orishas and a lot of ya artworks are dedicated to them.

chiefobdk:



he said dat in Ur dreams?

Ejemehn:




Nonsense? Think that should be for you......you're Yoruba I guess. I'm so disappointed you don't know your history. No wonder you can come here and blab. Well, I won't be responsible for your lack of knowledge. Get a book, read. It'll do you lots of good

chiefobdk:



he said dat in Ur dreams?[/quote

YES! AND FULFILLED THEM WITH THIS. SO THERE...

[quote author=princechinedu post=20550675]One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis. Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently name The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine.
In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:
“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”

In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that:

“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.

Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that…
Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria…

“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”
A few cardinals in the Catholic church are against Pope Francis’ latest declarations. Watch out for the report.

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chiefobdk:



he said dat in Ur dreams?

princechinedu:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis. Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently name The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine.
In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:
“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”

In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that:

“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.

Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that…
Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria…

“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”
A few cardinals in the Catholic church are against Pope Francis’ latest declarations. Watch out for the report.

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chiefobdk:



he said dat in Ur dreams?

princechinedu:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis. Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently name The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine.
In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:
“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”

In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that:

“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.

Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that…
Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria…

“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”
A few cardinals in the Catholic church are against Pope Francis’ latest declarations. Watch out for the report.

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pdpchangeapc:


Is the word 'Benin', a bini Language? And what is the meaning? I think you need to check the picture posted above your comment and reason with that sitting arrangement.

miszeno:


U are a fool at 30,were u born then ozuo, what makes u think that those idols are youruba pls say what u know

chiefobdk:



the thunder wey go fire u for dis talk. dey do press up.


obi = head.

obi = palace

obi = man male masculine. boy. first boy.

obi = heart

clefstone:
You don't know your history boy

ayodara77:


unlike you ranting fool I actually did Yoruba in sec school, I know everything about my culture intoto, even General African studies in university which everyone that has ever passed through d 4 walls of any university in Nigeria has studies says Ogun, sango, olokun are all Yoruba deities, even d ogboni which you Bini can not do without originated from Yoruba but we have since jettisoned them for Jesus , i was shocked at d zeal and passion with which you guys serve all these idols during my service year. not being born then has nothing to do with knowledge, get educated, mediocre.

FuckTheMod:

Ode

E pain am

miszeno:


No wonder, u did yoruba, i cud tell words coming oit from a maggot infested puss.y, u read it in school doesnt make it true dis is history not chemistry. As for ogboni, u are foolish not to have heard of osokpikan... Ogboni is childs play. Rubbish dirty yoruba funky

chiefobdk:


I don't argue wit yoruba..

OPCNAIRALAND:


We should ask them self, since they claim Oba is a recent adaptation by Yoruba to then tell us how we came about the name prefix.

Obafemi
Obayemi
Obadare
Obaseki

chowlade:

Ipod youth on rampage why r u so pained ?
D binis should go nd join ur zooafrans though lol Yorubas dont care.

Go and read d cheap story of yoruba and d binis formed by d Edo miscreants sud knw is totally false.

1.Oba is a yoruba world directly translated to "To reign over"
2.Binis is a yoruba word
3 . Edos bears yoruba names that they dont even know d translation
4 . Oduduwa, Iranmiyan, Eweka are yoruba names
5. D binis practices d yorubalands traditional and religions

chowlade:

Ipod youth on rampage why r u so pained ?
D binis should go nd join ur zooafrans though lol Yorubas dont care.

Go and read d cheap story of yoruba and d binis formed by d Edo miscreants sud knw is totally false.

1.Oba is a yoruba world directly translated to "To reign over"
2.Binis is a yoruba word
3 . Edos bears yoruba names that they dont even know d translation
4 . Oduduwa, Iranmiyan, Eweka are yoruba names
5. D binis practices d yorubalands traditional and religions

bayulll01:


who is this one,don't u dare quote me again so of bitterness

crowngold:
1937 PICTURE CAN'T TELL LIES.... Modern
day historical fabrication put to lie, by this
photograph(Ooni Adesoji Aderemi@centre,
To his left next is Colonial British, Governor
of Nigeria, next,Oba Akenzua of Benin and
Oba Ademola, Alake of Abeokuta, To Ooni's
right, Oba Oladigbolu, Alaafin of Oyo town,
and Oba Adesanya Gbelegbuwa, Awujale of
ijebu ode)...if their predecessors knew their
seniors as as far back as 1937 and even before, wherein lies the wisdom of
challenging what the Alake said.

Anayordike:


The Chief said the "adaptation" started in the 1950s. So the question is did any body bear Obafemi, Obayomi, Obasanjo, Obaseki before the 50s? Lolz!

OAFMods:
I hope no miscreants will turn up to start wailing on this thread. The word "oba" might be alien to the Yoruba as confirmed by the name of each monarch stated by the chief. It's an adaptation signifying the post of the kingship instead of having to cram the title of the several kings that rule YorubaLand.

Borrowed lexicon varies from culture to culture so chief should cool down for Jesus. If there's any superiority contest at play the regret is that of the chief for being a chief in a once great Benin empire To becoming a chief at the lowest ebb of its sagacity. You might be correct by taking us down the memory lane, but you failed to give the total records as it were, anyway, maybe you do not know or you were not told that part of history. Yes, it is true that Oduduwa was a Prince from Benin kingdom that wandered to Ile Ife after a ganging up against him to forced him out from Benin to Ile Ife to start what we have today as Yoruba Kingdom.(How the oracle has predicted and spoke about his coming to ile ife , his reception and how his enthronement brought peace to the then settlement, Ile ife and the neighboring communities and kingdoms including Benin is another story entirely.)

He became king and dominate all the extended kingdom around him of that time, then and then (Which is where you missed it) after some long when Oduduwa was aged, the nemesis of haven a true prince that was entitled to replace the then Oba of benin of forcefully chased out came upon them, and there was no person accepted by the oracle, they have to go looking for him when he has already established himself and has became a ralling king known far and near down to Arabia and beyond.

Then in Benin, there was no peace nor progress and the oracle demanded except Oduduwa is sought for and brought back to rule over his father's throne. They then sent word to Ile ife after information revealed that he is that radiating Force ( Oduduwa ) of Ile Ife but it was too late, maybe because of age or by virtue of his power and responsibility, he couldn't return but have to send one of his son to go and become the Oba of Benin as he did to other places where he sent his children to head which include the following ;

Orogun of ila Alafin of Oyo
Onisabe of sabe Oniketu of Ketu
Onibini Of Benin etc

So, Alake of Egba was very correct and do not forget that Oranmiyan was not the first son of Oduduwa, who replaced Oduduwa as the Oni of Ife, so it is not by person, it is the sit Oni of Ife is occupying.

Etinosajay:


What clarity have you given to prove your own bias (if u decide to call it point)?

crowngold:
1937 PICTURE CAN'T TELL LIES.... Modern
day historical fabrication put to lie, by this
photograph(Ooni Adesoji Aderemi@centre,
To his left next is Colonial British, Governor
of Nigeria, next,Oba Akenzua of Benin and
Oba Ademola, Alake of Abeokuta, To Ooni's
right, Oba Oladigbolu, Alaafin of Oyo town,
and Oba Adesanya Gbelegbuwa, Awujale of
ijebu ode)...if their predecessors knew their
seniors as as far back as 1937 and even before, wherein lies the wisdom of
challenging what the Alake said.