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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:52pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
patches689: African COIN operations aren't necessarily CQB, they are mostly FIBUA and long distances. So a CQB training is shouldn't be the core of the training. All African terrorists usually begin attacks hit targets with 14.5mm's from long distances. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:01pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Nigeria COIN
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:05pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
africaken: Many countries are carrying out COIN operations, including Algeria, however they've been able to contain the escalation. The last hostage rescue undertaken by Algeria in the gas plant, was flawless. The terrorist are now fully aware that holding hostages in Algeria is a waste of time. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:08pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240:
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:22pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240:how many times have you seen footage of american's,australian's,italian's e.t.c on capture or kill missions having to engage in close quarter combat with insurgents who have barricaded in this mud build compounds in afganistan.even some special op's getting killed,the recent terrorist attack in Burkina faso the leader of the hostage rescue team he was afraid to enter the build because he feared.his team would shot the hostages,prolonging this terror attack for hours even forcing the french to send their special forces |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stephandeswardt: 9:31pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Bouncing Betty. .... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stephandeswardt: 9:33pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:45pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240:
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:47pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Stephandeswardt:close but not the answer |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:51pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
africaken: So what are they actually teaching the Senegalese? -Your video shows the Italians like can shoot, same as the Senegalese -It shows the can return fire, same as the Senegalese - It shows, as usual with a NATO forces deployed in Afghanistan,they go calling a gunship to neutralise the threat(s) ( one wonders whether this tactic would work against a country with a proper military), which this time didn't happen, as they again came under fire. So what are they actually teaching the Senegalese? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:52pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
rugged7: Mali mortar attack kills three UN peacekeepers in Kidal Three UN peacekeepers from Guinea have been killed in a mortar attack on their base in Kidal in northern Mali.read more http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35560361 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:57pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
africaken: You don't seem to get my point. African terror attacks on Security forces are usually started of at long distances and FIBUA. CQBs are not common. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:09pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240:they are training special forces whose jobs is Busts Down Doors the photo : kenya malindi terror hideout raid
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:50pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240: basically to you its useless the whole exercise,i can't explain it to you because you seems to think that asymmetrical warfare and conventional warfare are intertwined |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:01pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240: 1. Italian Army is held to a way higher standard than any African country 2. Yes, basic soldiering isnt COIN |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:02pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240: Again, no one said the Italians were doing COIN training. Read Afrikans post. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:05pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
africaken: This One moment @Henry and @Augustine are criticizing AMANI II for its emphasis on mobility and long range operations Now they are criticizing Italians for doing close in basic soldiering training ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:07pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240: They are teaching them basic soldiering drills. The video shows the Italians can maintain a disciplined and co-ordinated base of fire, pin the enemy and call in support to destroy the enemy. IE: COIN 101 No, that tactic will not work against a country with a proper military they are fighting as light infantry in a fluid situation, they are not defending the Fulda Gap and so they act accordingly. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:10pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240: You realize that the only difference between CQB and MOUT/FIBUA is the inclusion of logistics in MOUT/FIBUA? Its essentially the same. Italians are helping them build core skills. Core skills apply to everything. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:17pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
[quote author=africaken post=42862836][/quote]tell me what they are doing ? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by horlams: 11:23pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
If according to Africom, the aim of flintlock is to gather 'counterterrorism' forces, those basic drill(s) is a waste f time and resources. They are not regular infantry. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:31pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
horlams:Define basic drills ? the biggest problem with african male is pride and ego |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by horlams: 11:49pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
africaken: That's not what I mean dude. Every skill is good, but there should be priorities. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:54pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
Henry240:https://www.facebook.com/AFRICOM/videos/vb.79227659117/10153588875579118/?type=2&theater |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:01am On Feb 13, 2016 |
patches689: Stop making comments like what the Italians did in that video is extraordinary. That's basic fire suppression. Trained soldiers would always react in a similar fashion. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:02am On Feb 13, 2016 |
Henry240:because your fighting in built-up areas FIBUA ,you won't go house to house clearing every room ! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:05am On Feb 13, 2016 |
africaken: That's not even the point. You don't start running basic drills in an elite COIN exercise. Every participant at Flintlock is an elite soldier. It is expected that the basic drills have been mastered before coming to do the exercise. "Are we taking 2 steps backwards for every step forward?". |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:07am On Feb 13, 2016 |
africaken: Again you're missing the point. I'm not saying CQB techniques shouldn't the practiced. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by horlams: 12:10am On Feb 13, 2016 |
Henry240: Exactly my point. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:12am On Feb 13, 2016 |
Henry240: So, yet again, you are judging an entire exercise based off of a solitary picture. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:13am On Feb 13, 2016 |
Henry240: Not with the level of precision and co-ordination they displayed. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:14am On Feb 13, 2016 |
africaken: The exercise would be a source of many photos..... So, in that sense it isn't useless. However, if soldiers are going to run through basic drills without incorporating their own experiences in the African battlespace, then it sure could be. Anyway, i only wanted to get the opinions of commentators. |
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