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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 12:19pm On Feb 16, 2016
THIZA please not so many pics...we've seen most of them before
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 12:21pm On Feb 16, 2016
Lmao...it turns out Nigeria was part of the international delegation that came to view our "crappy, obsolete" Rooivalk during the demonstration a few weeks ago. I wonder why the Nigerian Air Force would waste their time viewing that machine's capabilities if the experts on here have already stated it's a piece of crap grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:33pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Lmao...it turns out Nigeria was part of the international delegation that came to view our "crappy, obsolete" Rooivalk during the demonstration a few weeks ago. I wonder why the Nigerian Air Force would waste their time viewing that machine's capabilities if the experts on here have already stated it's a piece of crap grin grin

It turns out Nigeria could potentially also build the Rooivalk MK2. It means we would upgrade the helicopter from it state of obsolescence. It says it right there in that article.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 12:39pm On Feb 16, 2016
Lmao! Yeah....it makes sense to buy something crappy and obsolete, then put in your own money to upgrade it. Rather than just buy a brand spanking new one from somewhere else (which the experts on here claim are much better anyways)....yeah makes perfect sense.

If anyone believes that any new customer would put in equal or more work (than Denel) into an upgrade of a Denel product such as Rooivalk, they are delusional.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 12:55pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Lmao! Yeah....it makes sense to buy something crappy and obsolete, then put in your own money to upgrade it. Rather than just buy a brand spanking new one from somewhere else (which the experts on here claim are much better anyways)....yeah makes perfect sense.

If anyone believes that any new customer would put in equal or more work (than Denel) into an upgrade of a Denel product such as Rooivalk, they are delusional.

Denel upgraded the helicopter too and renamed it. It was redesigned and upgraded by Denel.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 2:59pm On Feb 16, 2016
iblawi:


Denel upgraded the helicopter too and renamed it. It was redesigned and upgraded by Denel.

You call this an "upgrade"? From Oryx to Rooivalk? Go back to sleep please.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:30pm On Feb 16, 2016
Henry240:


It turns out Nigeria could potentially also build the Rooivalk MK2. It means we would upgrade the helicopter from it state of obsolescence. It says it right there in that article.



Then why can't they do it and see?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:08pm On Feb 16, 2016
Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS WE DONT WAIT UNTIL HELL BREAK LOOSE TO ACT

Hell broke loose in Bangui 2013, where did your SANDF not stay there to stop the hell ? Cowards !!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:28pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Lmao...it turns out Nigeria was part of the international delegation that came to view our "crappy, obsolete" Rooivalk during the demonstration a few weeks ago. I wonder why the Nigerian Air Force would waste their time viewing that machine's capabilities if the experts on here have already stated it's a piece of crap grin grin

Bwahaha grin

Nigeria was invited and we went like others went. Egypt has about 40 Apaches, they wont buy a lesser rated Rooivalk that has not seen 1% of the wars Apache has fought in 20 years of combat history. Nigeria is looking at several helicopters, NAF wont spend $40 million on Rooivalk when T-129 ATAK costs only $20 million and has latest 2014 avionics and design.

Lol, Denel is desperate to find buyer for Roovalk and is inviting countries to look at its show.....Nobody has promised to spend $1 on the Rooivalk, they all looked at it and walked away back home. grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 5:38pm On Feb 16, 2016
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-42356/

"Mike Kgobe, CEO of Denel Aviation, told defenceWeb that the demonstration was based on renewed interest expressed in the helicopter, especially following its performance with the United Nations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He said February's demonstration was aimed at talking to the broader community about the Rooivalk, with interested countries present at the demonstration, including delegations from Poland and Nigeria. Poland is currently seeking new attack helicopters under its Kruk programme while Nigeria has an urgent operational requirement for attack helicopters to combat Boko Haram militants.

Egypt is also believed to be potentially interested, especially after the United States delayed the delivery of AH-64 Apache helicopters following the military's removal of Mohammed Morsi from power. Although Egypt recently ordered 46 Ka-52K helicopters from Russia, these are earmarked for its Mistral class vessels and the country still requires land-based attack helicopters."



So what have we learnt kids? That those who came did so because they expressed interest in Rooivalk.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:43pm On Feb 16, 2016
agaugust:


Hell broke loose in Bangui 2013, where did your SANDF not stay there to stop the hell ? Cowards !!!


You question is unconstructive because the SANDF primary objective of being in CAR was to upgrade the FACA military. Such deployment became possible through MoU which was signer between the two countries. The FOMAC failed to stop Seleka as it was their responsibility to enforce peace, not SANDF. Ask those unconstructive questions to FOMAC not SANDF.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:50pm On Feb 16, 2016
agaugust:


Bwahaha grin

Nigeria was invited and we went like others went. Egypt has about 40 Apaches, they wont buy a lesser rated Rooivalk that has not seen 1% of the wars Apache has fought in 20 years of combat history. Nigeria is looking at several helicopters, NAF wont spend $40 million on Rooivalk when T-129 ATAK costs only $20 million and has latest 2014 avionics and design.

Lol, Denel is desperate to find buyer for Roovalk and is inviting countries to look at its show.....Nobody has promised to spend $1 on the Rooivalk, they all looked at it and walked away back home. grin
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Nigeria went at own accord mumu. They are currently in desperation for an attack helicopter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:45pm On Feb 16, 2016
Msauza:



Nigeria went at own accord mumu. They are currently in desperation for an attack helicopter.

Quote where NAF said they are desperate for Rooivalk attack helicopter. NAF budget 2016 shows orders for brand new Mi-35 Hind E, why did NAF not order Rooivalk instead?

Denel was doing desperate marketing of a rebel worthy helicopter....Mumu.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:47pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-42356/

"Mike Kgobe, CEO of Denel Aviation, told defenceWeb that the demonstration was based on renewed interest expressed in the helicopter, especially following its performance with the United Nations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He said February's demonstration was aimed at talking to the broader community about the Rooivalk, with interested countries present at the demonstration, including delegations from Poland and Nigeria. Poland is currently seeking new attack helicopters under its Kruk programme while Nigeria has an urgent operational requirement for attack helicopters to combat Boko Haram militants.

Egypt is also believed to be potentially interested, especially after the United States delayed the delivery of AH-64 Apache helicopters following the military's removal of Mohammed Morsi from power. Although Egypt recently ordered 46 Ka-52K helicopters from Russia, these are earmarked for its Mistral class vessels and the country still requires land-based attack helicopters."



So what have we learnt kids? That those who came did so because they expressed interest in Rooivalk.


Nigeria has also shown interest in T-129 ATAK helicopter from Turkey.....so is interest = promise to purchase ? Mumu

http://www.trdefence.com/2015/05/19/nigeria-shows-interest-in-t-129-gunship/
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:48pm On Feb 16, 2016
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[size=13pt] Mi-24/35 Hind helicopter hovering...Southies say it cannot hover...fools proved wrong.[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_svJXOoHw
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:57pm On Feb 16, 2016
Henry240:


It turns out Nigeria could potentially also build the Rooivalk MK2. It means we would upgrade the helicopter from it state of obsolescence. It says it right there in that article.



Where does it say that?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:59pm On Feb 16, 2016
agaugust:


Bwahaha grin

Nigeria was invited and we went like others went. Egypt has about 40 Apaches, they wont buy a lesser rated Rooivalk that has not seen 1% of the wars Apache has fought in 20 years of combat history. Nigeria is looking at several helicopters, NAF wont spend $40 million on Rooivalk when T-129 ATAK costs only $20 million and has latest 2014 avionics and design.

Lol, Denel is desperate to find buyer for Roovalk and is inviting countries to look at its show.....Nobody has promised to spend $1 on the Rooivalk, they all looked at it and walked away back home. grin
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Actions speak louder than your words


[size=15pt]Shocking news! Nigeria desperate for South African helicopter! [/size]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:00pm On Feb 16, 2016
agaugust:


Quote where NAF said they are desperate for Rooivalk attack helicopter. NAF budget 2016 shows orders for brand new Mi-35 Hind E, why did NAF not order Rooivalk instead?

Denel was doing desperate marketing of a rebel worthy helicopter....Mumu.

1. Show us this NAF budget

2. Nigeria is desperate for this rebel worthy helicopter

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 8:25pm On Feb 16, 2016
So now it turns out that indeed Nigeria has shown interest, and was not just there on an invite as previously stated (i.e completely made up). Bad day for those who type before they think.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:27pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Lmao! Yeah....it makes sense to buy something crappy and obsolete, then put in your own money to upgrade it. Rather than just buy a brand spanking new one from somewhere else (which the experts on here claim are much better anyways)....yeah makes perfect sense.

If anyone believes that any new customer would put in equal or more work (than Denel) into an upgrade of a Denel product such as Rooivalk, they are delusional.

Evidence that shows Nigeria has shown interest?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:29pm On Feb 16, 2016
Patchesagain:

1. Show us this NAF budget
2. Nigeria is desperate for this rebel worthy helicopter
NAF has a follow-on order of 2 MI-35M, bringing total to 8 MI-35M ordered.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Lmao! Yeah....it makes sense to buy something crappy and obsolete, then put in your own money to upgrade it. Rather than just buy a brand spanking new one from somewhere else (which the experts on here claim are much better anyways)....yeah makes perfect sense.

If anyone believes that any new customer would put in equal or more work (than Denel) into an upgrade of a Denel product such as Rooivalk, they are delusional.

The Indians did it with the MKI.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-42356/

"Mike Kgobe, CEO of Denel Aviation, told defenceWeb that the demonstration was based on renewed interest expressed in the helicopter, especially following its performance with the United Nations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He said February's demonstration was aimed at talking to the broader community about the Rooivalk, with interested countries present at the demonstration, including delegations from Poland and Nigeria. Poland is currently seeking new attack helicopters under its Kruk programme while Nigeria has an urgent operational requirement for attack helicopters to combat Boko Haram militants.

Egypt is also believed to be potentially interested, especially after the United States delayed the delivery of AH-64 Apache helicopters following the military's removal of Mohammed Morsi from power. Although Egypt recently ordered 46 Ka-52K helicopters from Russia, these are earmarked for its Mistral class vessels and the country still requires land-based attack helicopters."



So what have we learnt kids? That those who came did so because they expressed interest in Rooivalk.

Nobody has pledged even a single cent. I wonder why you are masturbating.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 8:40pm On Feb 16, 2016
Shame....those that think i even want Nigeria to own Rooivalk are sadly mistaken. I prefer Nigeria not to even own it. Point is these experts on here that have been stating how crap our half French, obsolete piece of cra.p is have been out-voted and over-ruled by the Nigerian Air Force itself. The NAF leadership sent its delegation to SA because they know what the clueless here dont. Whether they buy it or not, i couldnt care less....you have simply been embarrassed by the NAF who will only show interest to platforms they believe are viable...not half French pieces of sh.it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:43pm On Feb 16, 2016
ssaengine:
Shame....those that think i even want Nigeria to own Rooivalk are sadly mistaken. I prefer Nigeria not to even own it. Point is these experts on here that have been stating how crap our half French, obsolete piece of cra.p is have been out-voted and over-ruled by the Nigerian Air Force itself. The NAF leadership sent its delegation to SA because they know what the clueless here dont. Whether they buy it or not, i couldnt care less....you have simply been embarrassed by the NAF who will only show interest to platforms they believe are viable...not half French pieces of sh.it.

Nobody is buying your half-french piece of crap! This is a fact!


The NAF was invited by Denel to see an attack helicopter which can't even hit it's target 2km short of the fraudulent 10km advertised.


Stop working yourself up over nothing.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:45pm On Feb 16, 2016
Henry240:


NAF has a follow-on order of 2 MI-35M, bringing total to 8 MI-35M ordered.

Epic citation
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:47pm On Feb 16, 2016
Patchesagain:

Epic citation
Citation for what?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:48pm On Feb 16, 2016
Henry240:


Nobody is buying your half-french piece of crap! This is a fact!


The NAF was invited by Denel to see an attack helicopter which can't even hit it's target 2km short of the fraudulent 10km advertised.

Stop working yourself up over nothing.

Who says they were invited?

Nigeria heard there was a demo and came running!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:52pm On Feb 16, 2016
Patchesagain:


Who says they were invited?

Nigeria heard there was a demo and came running!!!

Denel reached sexual climax with the participation of Nigeria, hence they ran to defenceweb to mention our name. Pretty desperate if you ask me.


Nothing more comical than a Helicopter which misses it's target, it was Comedy Central Untamed" for the Nigerian delegation.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:54pm On Feb 16, 2016
Henry240:


Denel reached sexual climax with the participation of Nigeria, hence they ran to defenceweb to mention our name. Pretty desperate if you ask me.


Nothing more comical than a Helicopter which misses it's target, it was Comedy Central Untamed" for the Nigerian delegation.

OK,


But where does it say they were invited?

Why would we invite someone who cannot afford it??
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 8:56pm On Feb 16, 2016
Patchesagain:


Who says they were invited?

Nigeria heard there was a demo and came running!!!

Lmao
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 9:05pm On Feb 16, 2016
Can imagine NAF and Denel whatsapp convo...

Denel: Hey you wana come to a demo friday?
NAF: I'm busy dude
Denel: Please bro...it will be fun
NAF: I'm really not interested
Denel: Come on...just show face for a couple of hours
NAF: This is the 1st and last time. Share your location.
Denel: I owe you one, thanks smiley

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