nasiayam:
I've looked at a few different versions of the Bible, and I'm stumped.


Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 21:1)


2 Samuel 24New International Version (NIV)

David Enrolls the Fighting Men
24 Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.”


1 Chronicles 21:1New International Version (NIV)

David Counts the Fighting Men
21 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

orisa37:
Anger of God in 2nd Samuel equals Satan in 1st Chronicle. This means that anger is evil in God and in us, who are made in the nature of God. Jesus used the spirit when He ordered Judas to go and do what he had to do. God was in Heaven in the Old Testament, so we don't know how He reconciled with Uncle David. Jesus Christ, as God on earth, went straight to pray to reconcile the annoying spirit in Him with His Sceptre of Righteousness. And so God ordered David not incite David. Jesus Christ ordered Judas not incite. They both acted in Anger. Jesus, as it is in the New Testament completed the circle with Prayer. Prayer is the Solution in all circumstances to change all evil and worry in us to good and peace that Christianity is preaching. Buhari s CHANGE isn't to divide Nigeria into N and S Islam and Christians but to provide good and peace in progress and development for all , Nigerians. We are praying that he may overcome the ANGER OF GOD in bokoharam and currency devaluation plaguing Nigeria presently.

nasiayam:
I've looked at a few different versions of the Bible, and I'm stumped.


Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 21:1)


2 Samuel 24New International Version (NIV)

David Enrolls the Fighting Men
24 Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.”


1 Chronicles 21:1New International Version (NIV)

David Counts the Fighting Men
21 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

nasiayam:
Looked at several versions can't be a typo...

sonOfLucifer:

True. There were no typos when the Scripture was written. The only 'typo' could have happened over centuries of editing and reediting.

malvisguy212:
this happened toward the end of David reign in isreal, David was looking at his achievement and success rather than the mercy of God. So God wanted to bring David to his knell, God has already warn David not to numbers isreal in chronicles:
Chronicles 21:3
But Joab replied, "May the LORD
multiply his troops a hundred times
over. My lord the king, are they not all
my lord's subjects? Why does my lord
want to do this? Why should he bring
GUILT ON ISREAL ?"
So God decided it was time to bring David down to his knell, So he let him go ahead with his census, in order to find out just how much good it would do him.
So how did satan came into this ? Satan knows that numbering isreal will displease God, and it will make God punish His children, just as it say here:
1 Chronicles 21:7
7 But God was displeased with this thing,and he struck Israel.
so he also incited David to carry it through. God want to discipline His servant David.

sonOfLucifer:

True. There were no typos when the Scripture was written. The only 'typo' could have happened over centuries of editing and reediting.

sonOfLucifer:
Sometimes Yahweh and Satan trade places. They are twin demons created by Abraham.

CoolUsername:


I think the true question should be: "What the hell is wrong with conducting a census?"

orisa37:
Anger of God in 2nd Samuel equals Satan in 1st Chronicle. This means that anger is evil in God and in us, who are made in the nature of God. Jesus used the spirit when He ordered Judas to go and do what he had to do. God was in Heaven in the Old Testament, so we don't know how He reconciled with Uncle David. Jesus Christ, as God on earth, went straight to pray to reconcile the annoying spirit in Him with His Sceptre of Righteousness. And so God ordered David not incite David. Jesus Christ ordered Judas not incite. They both acted in Anger. Jesus, as it is in the New Testament completed the circle with Prayer. Prayer is the Solution in all circumstances to change all evil and worry in us to good and peace that Christianity is preaching. Buhari s CHANGE isn't to divide Nigeria into N and S Islam and Christians but to provide good and peace in progress and development for all , Nigerians. We are praying that he may overcome the ANGER OF GOD in bokoharam and currency devaluation plaguing Nigeria presently.

nasiayam:


The following verses are really stumping me.

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

plaetton:


Just to show how fake those numbers were, consider that for Israel to have had half a million to one million fighting soldiers more than 3,000 yrs ago meant that their population had to be between 3.5 to 5 million.

This figure is impossible considering that such a population never left a single footprint in neither of the lands that they supposedly occupied for a thousand years.

Therefore, the bible or should I say, the chroniclers of the bible lied or to be polite, grossly misrepresented facts.

Karlovich:
Op just wait, the faithful ones will soon bring out their e-swords to attack u for blasphemy

sonOfLucifer:

God doesn't like data.

The story goes that God, being all-knowing, already knew the exact figure. It'd be stupid to say God didn't know.. you see?

It was a test of David's faith and trust. You know, sometimes GOd works like that. Same way after creating the whole universe, and all the extra planets, he decided to plant the Tree in the same garden, same planet, with Adam. It's the same trick always. God sets you up. You fall. He blames you. You feel guilty. You start begging for forgiveness.

Same shit worked on Adam, worked on David. still works on AFRICANS.


NOw who's the Devil?

nasiayam:
The following verses are really stumping me.

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

I need help with this still. And who ordered the census

nasiayam:
I've looked at a few different versions of the Bible, and I'm stumped.


Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 21:1)


2 Samuel 24New International Version (NIV)

David Enrolls the Fighting Men
24 Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.”


1 Chronicles 21:1New International Version (NIV)

David Counts the Fighting Men
21 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

Medicis:
www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=784

CoolUsername:


I think the true question should be: "What the hell is wrong with conducting a census?"

analice107:

Hello dear. Nothing is wrong with conducting a Census, but the motive behind the Census. David was. Moved by pride to see his exploits. What he felt he accomplished by himself. How many territories he had captured and how many nations paid treaties to him. This is the reason for God's anger against him. The same sin King Nebochanezzar of Babylon committed and was cast off for 7yrs.