oliviatwist:

Did you border to read the article and see the part about a court ruling or to is it just a witch hunt to you since you aren't affected?

DrAdonis:


Lol. Do your research well. Obama said if Nigerian doctors leave the US, it'll affect their health sector significantly. Nigerian doctors are known for their good works worldwide, even though there will be a bad few as it is worldwide. Most of them left this country because of bad working conditions and hate speech like yours. Please, change and urge the government to change too. Thanks.

MsGlobalwonder:
it is "bother". You are welcome.

otswag:
Here we go again. Another "JOHESU vs Medical Doctors" series of threads brewing. If its your right, use the law to defend your argument. Don't bring a lame excuse that because drs are paid this, u must be paid that. Plus, learn to stop painting drs in a bad image and misleading the public just to gain public sympathy for your cause.

razortruth:
I am not a doctor nor a nurse but i know by experience that a patient's life is safer in the hands and care of nurses than all those lazy and quack doctors in all the teaching hospitals in nigeria. A lot of people have died and still dying because of carelessness of these doctors who cant even practice abroad because their licences will be seized and litigation by patients will send them to jail. Local champions

drered:


What lame excuse? There has always been a ratio/relativity between the pay of MD'S and other members of the healthcare team. When there's an increase in one isn't it only logical that the relativity be maintained? Or the other members should just sit and watch the margin grow wider?

DrAdonis:


Lolaed visit qualified doctors for his treatment not pharmacists, lab people or hospital cleaners. Just on a light note oo. Lol.

drered:
These 'people' going on strike include registered nurses. It's OK to not be clear on certain issues but what is not OK is bringing it out here trying to misinform the public.. There is no time JOHESU has ever asked for equal salary with MD'S. Kindly furnish me with links if u insist otherwise..

DrAdonis:


These people going on strike are not medical doctors. Nurses who went to the university too are not part of them.



No sir, you are misinformed. A house officer (doctor) is on an equivalent of CONHESS 9 while med lab scientists and pharmacy interns are on CONHESS 8 Salary scale. And that is very fair if you ask me..

It's really funny that other health workers like lab scientists, pharmacists, porters, hospital cleaners, security etc come together and decide to go on strike because they are not receiving the same salaries and allowances as doctors.
Nigerians need to start behaving civil and Noble really. We can't be misbehaving in the name of unionism asking for equal salary with people who we had completely different training with...Even Albert Einstein said the worst form of inequality is trying to make unequal things equal.

AreaFada2:
The matter is very simple.

It's like in slum areas, poor people kill fellow poor people. Whereas in rich areas, rich people patronise each other's business, get connections from each other and all get richer in the process.

Even medical salaries are not really that big in the beginning. Big bucks come with seniority and when running own private clinics alongside.

If health care got paid generally well, what seems like envy towards doctors won't be there.

The other matter is doctors are more involved in setting the pay agenda generally, whether it's Minister of health or other senior health officials who are often doctors. Hence the perception that all is tilted in doctors' favour.

Last time I argued on NL that allied healthcare people should get more recognition, someone accused me of being JOHESU. I didn't even know what it meant then.

orelove4liff:
so u are too blind to see d part dat says government disobeyed court order dat they should be paid?

DrAdonis:


Lol. Do your research well. Obama said if Nigerian doctors leave the US, it'll affect their health sector significantly. Nigerian doctors are known for their good works worldwide, even though there will be a bad few as it is worldwide. Most of them left this country because of bad working conditions and hate speech like yours. Please, change and urge the government to change too. Thanks.

otswag:
this your point is the main reason drs protested for relativity and skipping and got their entitlement. If johesu feels there's still an imbalance with relativity, state your grievances and don't start tainting d image of drs in the process by professing lies that we don't deserve what we got.

lolaed:


so how did you know the other things you posted? Are they facts or what you think?

sarzy:


No, they can practise abroad but they dare not try the nonsense they try here.

drered:
What points? What lies? Where and Whem did JOHESU state MD'S don't deserve what they got..?

dicefrost:
The Joint Health Sector Union (JOHESU) says it will commence an indefinite strike by 12 midnight today (Feb. 17) if the Federal Government failed to meet members’ demands. The National President of the Medical and Health Workers Union who also doubled as JOHESU National Chairman, Mr Biobebelemoye Josiah, disclosed this in an interview with newsmen on Wednesday in Abuja.
Josiah explained that members are demanding for improved working conditions, including the implementation of skipping of Grade Level 10. According to him, JOHESU is asking for adjustment of the 2009 CONHESS salary table and allowances as was done for the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) in January 2014. He described government insensitivity to the demands as ``provocative, insulting and unjust in the worst dimension in a democratic dispensation’’.
Josiah lamented that members of the union were being subjected to discrimination and industrial marginalisation in the health sector in favour of NMA members.
On the issue of skipping of Grade level 10, he noted that rather than paying them the money government went ahead to pay medical doctors which he claimed were not entitle to such allowance by law.
Josiah also explained that the court ruled in their favour that they should be paid, adding that government failed to respect the court injunction. However, Josiah called on the federal government to give priority attention and capture the financial implication of the demands in this year’s health sector budget. According to him, JOHESU comprised more than 99 per cent of service deliverance in the health system, noting that government failure to meet the demands would have negative impact on the country’s healthcare delivery.
``JOHESU members and doctors are treated differently, even when it is not the right of doctors to earn specific pay they accord them the pay which is part of the problems we are passing through. ``This now brings disharmony because there is no fair administration of the health system which is part of the things that is causing disharmony and turbulence in the system, to avoid that the President should change such act,’’ he said. JOHESU is an umbrella body of all professional and non-professional health workers, excluding medical doctors.

www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/johesu-threatens-indefinite-strike-at-12-midnight/



blame buhari

otswag:
From d op's post and I quote "On the issue of skipping of Grade level 10, he noted that rather than paying them the money government went ahead to pay medical doctors which he claimed were not entitle to such allowance by law" . Im sure u can read so Read d post well b4 u decide to respond next time

SenorMcSlyl:
...and a group of people unrelated by job description can aggregate & hold a country to ransom in the western world? Why not say it as it is. Just imagine privatisation of the health sector, i wonder what will become of JOHESU. And for your information, the health sector is pretty messed up hence priority isn't placed where it shoul be.

lolaed:


whereas the nurses you are talking about use staff privilege to seek for our help within and outside the hospitals.

Just make sure every member of your family seeks consult from a Nurse henceforth.

razortruth:
I am not a doctor nor a nurse but i know by experience that a patient's life is safer in the hands and care of nurses than all those lazy and quack doctors in all the teaching hospitals in nigeria. A lot of people have died and still dying because of carelessness of these doctors who cant even practice abroad because their licences will be seized and litigation by patients will send them to jail. Local champions

otswag:
this your point is the main reason drs protested for relativity and skipping and got their entitlement. If johesu feels there's still an imbalance with relativity, state your grievances and don't start tainting d image of drs in the process by professing lies that we don't deserve what we got.

drered:
Great. Now did they make that assertion outta the blues or they have a law to back it up?

otswag:
oh interesting! Now u've changed your argument..lol. What bloody law? Is d law of johesu different from the law of drs? Drs protested and won because they had the backing of the law. Besides, is this protest about what we got or what you deserve? Get your priorities right.

razortruth:
I am not a doctor nor a nurse but i know by experience that a patient's life is safer in the hands and care of nurses than all those lazy and quack doctors in all the teaching hospitals in nigeria. A lot of people have died and still dying because of carelessness of these doctors who cant even practice abroad because their licences will be seized and litigation by patients will send them to jail. Local champions

AreaFada2:


I'm not a jambite.

I have people in 9ja healthcare system. Since over 50 years!

I'm in the system too, albeit in a different country.

otswag:
fight your battle by stating the facts without tainting d image of drs in d process. Is that too difficult to do? Or am I writing in hieroglyphics?

francizy:
Omo on only one thread, see bottles, axes and bullets flying here and there...

***Helps to hide kingtom in my toilet so stray bullet no go shatter him teeth***...

AfroKnight:
Johesu again?

Honestly I'm tired of these people. Everywhere in the world, doctors get better pay than other health pros. Is there a worldwide strike to that effect? What is the essence of hierarchy if we level out the cadre?

These people are just too antagonistic. I just tire.

drered:
I can see you're a slow one. My argument remains one and the same.

Sohot1:
Foolish Johesu! Useless bunch of non-considerate non-entities..... Your time is fast running out.