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Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by wiegraf: 9:41pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/17/atheism-has-ancient-roots-claims-new-study I'll add the likes of Nobunaga were essentially atheist 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by wiegraf: 11:16pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
And here's India, circa 600 BCE wiki: then again, one simply need consider who the "fool" the bible referred to was. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by ifenes(m): 11:33pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
Atheism doesn't have its roots in modern science. It is way older than today's science. The term 'atheist' means a person doesn't believe in God. Aside from that, everything else is up for grabs. Plato himself wrote about the ancient city called "Atlantis" and how it was destroyed. The Vedas also backed this story up. Guys like Michael Angelo, Leonardo Da vinci who were born while Christianity was at its peak were very sure the God ideology was fictional and a means of control. The great philosophers of old went to ancient mystery school,while some were born with the natural knowing that there isn't a God. Mystery schools to ancient religious people but can be called school of science in our today's society. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by wiegraf: 8:13pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
ifenes: While I understand why some people may look at the article and think what's the point (as rather obviously, atheism isn't some invention strictly speaking sef. Well, depending on how you define invention. However, inventing sky men, that's an invention, any day), you'd be surprised at what some people think, even those who'd you'd assume should know better. they go as far as asserting that the burden of proof lies with the atheist, as the default position is to believe in god the article doesn't fully address this though, it just raises some mildly interesting (and relevant) points and facts 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:27pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
@Italo, atheism is older than your catholic church, your bible and your Christ. Ramen! 5 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 8:50pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Serious? Yet Atheism waited for Catholic Church to come and invent hospices, modern university system, become the single biggest charity organization in the world, etc Atheism must be useless then. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:07pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: Atheism is not a rival church or religion. By the way, why not mention the torture devices, genocidal crusades and suppression of knowledge (science) tactics your catholic church invented? ![]() 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by CoolUsername: 9:09pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: Yeah, right, after plundering the people. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:26pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: Wait......fact checking...... The catholic church did not invent charity. The catholic wealth from which they do charity is an ill-gotten wealth. Political skulduggery, Land grabs, brainwashing for offering etc. The catholic church did not invent hospices. Many early society had organised ways to care for the dying. Your Nigerian culture and ancestry had a version of hospice. See how catholic church has destroyed your brain? You even deny your own culture. smh. Italo 5 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 10:08pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: If Atheism isn't a rival religion, why did you compare the ages of Atheism and Catholicism? If the Catholic Church suppressed science, why was a Catholic priest Fr George Lemaitre the first person to propounded the big bang theory? Why are 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuits? Why did a Catholic Priest Jean-Baptiste Lamarck prefigure the theory of evolution? Why are Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon credited with helping to develop the scientific method? If the Catholic Church invented torture devices, why did torture devices exist before the Catholic Church? The Crusades were a beautiful invention. We need another Crusade against ISIS. By the way, it's very telling that you can't point out a single benefit Atheism has offered humanity. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 10:08pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: If Atheism isn't a rival religion, why did you compare the ages of Atheism and Catholicism? If the Catholic Church suppressed science, why was a Catholic priest Fr George Lemaitre the first person to propounded the big bang theory? Why are 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuits? Why did a Catholic Priest Jean-Baptiste Lamarck prefigure the theory of evolution? Why are Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon credited with helping to develop the scientific method? If the Catholic Church invented torture devices, why did torture devices exist before the Catholic Church? The Crusades were a beautiful invention. We need another Crusade against ISIS. By the way, it's very telling that you can't point out a single benefit Atheism has offered humanity...Just bitterness and destructiin. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 10:11pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Plundering which people? When and where? You're just bitter that the Catholic Church is the biggest charity in the world offering education, health care and other help to billions in the world, while Atheism only offers bitterness, emptiness and destruction. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 10:15pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Mention the Nigerian hospice you're talking about. And tell us if it was run by Atheists. And provide proof that the Catholic Church gets its charity money illegally...bitter thing. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by ifenes(m): 10:28pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
wiegraf: Atheism has never been an invention. Its just a mindset that doesn't rely on help from the unknown. Some people think Charles Darwin invented Atheism,which is not true. Atheism came first before any form of religion. Atheism will be the last man standing,it has no beginning nor end. God has a beginning and definitely an end. 5 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by ifenes(m): 10:39pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: Before the Catholic church the greatest inversions had been made e.g the Pyramids,which science of today still can't figure out. Talking of Catholic church,they are only recycling old knowledge and they burnt most books that could expose them. Giordano Bruno,an Italian Astrologer,Mathematician,philosopher,atheist,poet,was killed because he proposed that there are possibilities of other planet like the earth. Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges including denial of several core Catholic doctrines (including Eternal Damnation, the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the virginity of Mary, and Transubstantiation). He was burned at the stake You must be on a strong mind control to still be a part of this organization/religion/cult 6 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 10:50pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: Let's not derail our discussion! Did the catholic church invent some torture devices? YES! (eg heretic fork) Now....like I said, atheism is not a rival church or religion. I referred to the age of atheism and catholic church because it is commonly misunderstood that atheism is a reaction to the bible and christ. Atheism is not a religion. It is not meant to better your life. It is not meant to give life purpose. It is only a philosophical stance on the non-existence of god. Compare humanism to religion. That will make for a richer discussion where catholicism will end up looking like a relic from the dark ages 4 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 10:56pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
italo: You must be quite ignorant of the corrupt politics that the ancient popes engaged in? You are truly a brainwashed fellow. Even your username (Italo is short for italy) shows subservience to Rome (the vatican). You sound like the ancient altar boys in the Borgias play- groomed and brainwashed for servitude to the church. As for hospice, in my village and up till today, we have a "herbalist" who looks after strong cases of illness. He helps them pass on to the next life. The herbalist and his disciples feed and wash the patients till they die. Guy. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by PastorAIO: 11:06pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
wiegraf: Maybe this article will address it fuller to your satisfaction: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/atheism-is-as-old-as-religion-new-study-suggests-a6879341.html The claims, made in Battling the Gods by professor of Greek Culture, Tim Whitmarsh, throw doubt into the idea we are hardwired to believe in a higher power – referred to a ‘religious universalism’. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by Niflheim(m): 11:09pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
@Italo, you say your god created the Universe? And he does not believe in a higher being? Then your god is an atheist!!!................. And one more thing, your Catholic Church looted South America plus Mexico(which is part of North America)!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 11:21pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
Niflheim: Without proof! Bitter liar. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 11:26pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Ad hominem. JackBizzle: Aha! So you know there is a next life. ![]() Confused bitter thing. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by italo: 11:31pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Summary: Atheism is useless. It only brings bitterness, emptiness and destruction. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 7:15am On Feb 20, 2016 |
italo: www.nairaland.com/attachments/3413837_martin_jpeg09c3d75fb8eb84869c9b62883caea1cc 1 Like |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 7:16am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by UyiIredia(m): 7:59am On Feb 20, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Now you know how I feel discussing with atheists. But then we must discuss for the sake of fence-sitters. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:11am On Feb 20, 2016 |
UyiIredia: Kettle, pot, black. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by UyiIredia(m): 8:15am On Feb 20, 2016 |
JackBizzle:Whatever. |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:17am On Feb 20, 2016 |
italo: Kai ... bullet through the heart . 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:40am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:45am On Feb 20, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Oh come on ... how was that asslicking ? He's a fellow christian |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:52am On Feb 20, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Say something about the topic? ![]() |
Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:05am On Feb 20, 2016 |
JackBizzle: The Old Testament of the Bible was written centuries ago and two different verses in the book of Psalms described those who didnt believe in God as fools - meaning atheists must have existed at that time or even before it . So I agree with the topic ![]() |
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