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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:33am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza:I ask you why Nilgiri class is referred to a frigate and why the NNS thunder is not since you believe all frigates must have missile launchers and you where saying rubbish, you even posted pics that proved you wrong. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:35am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: No, Argentina refer to them as destroyers. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:38am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Deal with it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:41am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: You need a psychiatric clinic urgently. Covettes are small and are lightly armed. Mordern Frigates can do whatever destroyers can do dummy. They can shoot down fighters, launch torpedoes, destroy submarines, destroy other ships with ASM, etc. Can do everything that destroyers do |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:42am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Yes in your dreams. That's where cutters are used as frigates. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:45am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Hamilton-Class if used as a frigates will only be a toothless dog that won't even project force beyond Nigeria's shores. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:51am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: Fool even corvette are built with such features in mind but that doesn't make them a frigate or even a destroyer. The capabilities of these vessels are different. The Chinese corvette can even launch missiles with greater greater ranges than your Valour but they were not referred to as frigates. They can shoot down fighters, launch torpedoes, destroy submarines and other fighters too but they are still corvettes because their capability is limited. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:53am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Good even cutters can never be frigates. You've just unswered yourself. Bwahahaha… |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:54am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza:Your Valour class with teeth haven't done anything with it for almost 10 years same as NNS Aradu never had to use its teeth for over 30 years. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:55am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: The question is what is a frigate? Did they tell you a frigate is a vessel that can carry SSM and SAM? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:56am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Bwahahaha… at least we know that we have frigates and can project force anywhere in SSA. Just like we have done in Ivory Coast. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 9:58am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: Yes, just as I said earlier, they can project force to some part of SSA like Namibia and Mozambique but not Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:00am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Like I told you the frigates is determined by its size, the level of armament it takes and its ability to project force. The manufacturer as well will have a final say what the ship was built for and what level of self defence does it have. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 10:00am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Thanks for the time wasted I have to do some other things. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 10:02am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: If that is it. Then we have 3 frigates thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:02am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Thanks for acceding to defeat because you saw that your argument was too weak. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:04am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: Hamilton class was built as a cutter by manufacturer and Arandu as Frigates but is now OUT OF ORDER meaning you now have zero frigate. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:14am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Hamilton-Class cannot launch missile. A ship that cannot launch missile can never be a frigate or even a corvette. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 10:20am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: Your definition never said anything about manufacturer and it never said it must be better armed than any other vessel. They have the size and tonnage of a frigate and the extent to which it must be armed was not specified anywhere which leave the country to determine that based on threat level in the region. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:27am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: You are a waste, do you that? Frigates were designed for a primary purpose of projecting force and to do battle in deep blue water sea. Tell me how will a cutter have any capability to do that? Frigates have to use sophisticated weapons to intercept enemy in deep seas. A cutter does not fill that role at all. That's why whenever there is a sea battle, Navy will send frigates, submarines and destroyers to the front. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:40am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1: What happens if you don't have destroyers? Do you mean you cannot improvise and use one of your frigates to assume the role of a destroyer? However, you cannot use a cutter as a frigate because a cutter is poorly armed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:15am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1:The first Nilgiri class was built in the 70s NNS Aradu was commissioned in 1982....ten years later!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:17am On Feb 20, 2016 |
DonBobes:Seems I know more about the NN than you. The fact is, your navy only has 1 frigate, which isn't operational. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:15pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
edit.. delete please |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by upko1: 2:37pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Iblawi1:C'mon bro, I understand the need to project a well put together navy, but we can do that without the need for ficticious tales. Hamilton class cutters are specifically intended for BLUE water PATROL duties, they tag along with carriers, destroyers, cruisers and frigates just fine. Hence their impressive range. A dolphin isn't a shark 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:48pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: South African Navy Valour warships have NO torpedoes, your navy has ZERO anti-submarine warfare capabilities. Valour has been downgraded to corvettes by SAN official website due to poor armaments. Exocet 70km, Umkhonto 15 km, Torpedoes NONE !!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:52pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Msauza: Msauza: They are frigates by design and heavily armed with Harpoon anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, Phalanx CIWS, anti-submarine sonar and torpedoes, anti-missile decoys, heavy 127 mm main guns, etc. These weapons were removed by US government because they were too powerful for maritime security duties they were assigned to do.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:05pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
jln115: Fact is your navy has only 1 Valour corvette fully armed with right number of anti-ship missiles, and it has ZERO torpedoes, your Valour ship has NO anti-submarine warfare capability. After you arm one fully with anti-ship missiles and keep half load as reserve, all your remaining 3 Valour ships are reduced to anti-piracy OPVs with only main gun to fight at sea . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:17pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
ssaengine: Moving target keeps moving despite many shots fired at it by the Rooivalk, target escapes alive ! At what range is SANDF Rooivalk shooting gun ? Maximum effective range of that F2 gun is only 2 km, reason why Hinds had to help Rooivalk clear out M23 heavy machine guns in Congo DRC with far superior Mi-35 cannon firepower and range, after safety was created by the Mi-35, then the rebel worthy Rooivalk flew in to use it's weaker TOY GUN ! Lol...see the South Africans now boasting about GUN ARMED ROOIVALK HELICOPTER, they no longer talk about Denel Mokopa missiles armed Rooivalk. # South Africans Now Eating The Hmble Pie In Their Defence Industry Advertisements .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:33pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
@Patches has run away from this forum since two days now, he is waiting for the Roovalk + Mokopa + Gripen + SANDF + Denel PUBLIC DISGRACE to be forgotten....LOL. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:33pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
agaugust: Do I need to tell you that your Navy has zero frigate and 50% of its fleet is written off? We are far better off than you Bwahahahahaha |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:37pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
agaugust:[/s] I wonder if the psychiatrist would even be able to treat your mental disease. You only see what others cannot see like a mad man. Waste of energy. |
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