uncjay:


I guess you have sight, reading and comprehensive disabilities.....sorry if I sound insulting, but you did not only give yourself out but also disgrace yourself.....maybe you should check again, because it is your brothers that brought your name in here....mtcheeew.....always priding it! Jezzzzzzz!

Onye nkea asi noo gini?

Efulefu! Mtcheeeewwwww

There's no need arguing with a people who aren't sure of Oduduwa's origin.

Onijagidijagan:

you see your life..you are being sentimental in all ur posts.
starting frm d word "Oba" what is "O"in bini? i'm sure it has no meaning in ur language. what is "ba" in bini? these are too separate words.
"O" means a person "Ba" means King or Father in yoruba also....
Another yoruba word "Ode" O is d person "de" is his conditition..is also applicable to other yoruba words like Obo, Ona, Olu, Oko (husband) Ore (friend) Ode (hunter) e.t.c

The binis use alot of yoruba words that they dont even knw aside Oba e.g:

Pepeye
Okobo
Omo
Agbegi
sha
nko?
ni?
jor
jare
pele
Ashewo
Wole wole
Oba
Aiyelala
olokun
ishango

e.t.c

All Obas came frm ile ife...go and check the Akoko edo history, they will tell you they migrated frm Ife also go check Ibilo's history u will find out they are sourced frm d great IFE.

I met a old woman in benin of recent who was able to tell d truth that d binis are frm ife.

Lol!

D old woman is an oghion'ba kevbe oghien'do, tell her when next you see her.

Your points aint valid coz Yoruba n Edo alphabets(cosonants/vowels) are similar.

I can list 100 Edo words that begins with Ö and used as a person i.e Odion which is Kehinde in Yoruba.

iwadobo:


Blasphemy, may God forgive you

Please what is blasphemous in my comment ?

SoNature:

Onye nkea asi noo gini?
Efulefu! Mtcheeeewwwww

The best you're taught to do.........vry obvious...lol

opal4real:


Epistle according to you.

What's the meaning of Eweka in Youruba?
How come d first Ogiso was Obagodo?

The last Ogiso (d father of Ekaladerhan aka Oduduwa) name was Owodo,it sounds yorubish right? Lol!

You didn't counter other points, you only mentioned the part that you think you can talk about.
Learn more about your true history.
I m a Yoruba man, the one that thinks logically not with myths alone.
Eweka means my leaf (trado medicine) conquers it. And if its Owomika, it means my hand conquers it.
This is Oranmiyan's expression for naming is child Eweka.
It is Yoruba word.
You should tell me Benin's gave Yorubas their language too.
Only one thing is debatable, the migration of Oduduwa to Ife.
Even if he was Ekaladiran, the fact remains that his last son Oranmiyan was the 1st Oba of Benin.
Oranmiyan has elderly bro & sis. Alaketu, Olowu, Onipopo, Onisabe, Orangun of Ila Owa of Obokun. These towns still exist till today.
So...technically, Oba of Benin is younger than those listed above.
Why Benin's skip these part is what is not clear.
And claiming seniority over a group that is far advanced than you makes a mockery of your origin.
Benind should be logical with their story...

opal4real:


Lol!

D old woman is an oghion'ba kevbe oghien'do, tell her when next you see her.

Your points aint valid coz Yoruba n Edo alphabets(cosonants/vowels) are similar.

I can list 100 Edo words that begins with Ö and used as a person i.e Odion which is Kehinde in Yoruba.

clearly...
the two cultures borrowed a lot from another.
but who really owned Olokun, Obatala, etc.
Why didn't we have their concrete version of story for Benins.
why is it only the Yoruba ones that we have.
why is Benin not begger than yorubaland.
why is their culture influenced sonmuch with Yoruba stuff.
its logical to accept that Oduduwa may be from Benin.
but its senseless to think the Benins created yorubaland like some lying elders in Benin do

bokohalal:


I understand your problem now.
There is an OGIAMIEN family in Benin City.
After the banishment of Ekaladerhan, there was a period of republicanism and Evian was chosen to administer the affairs of the kingdom. On his death, his son took over and the Binis revolted that the family was not of royal blood. A search for the banished Ekaladerhan led them to Ife where he now resided and reigned as Oduduwa.

Heard the above before?
Do you want to come see where Evian had performed a heroic feat that made the people to appoint him the head of the Kingdom?
Oliha family is still there.
The site of the Palace of the Ogisos is still there.

Or are you saying that the Ogisos never existed?
E
History was oral and has been from time in Benin and most of Africa. That the Yoruba wrote their version down before the Edos did due to western education getting there first does not and should not suppress a more verifiable Edo version of same event.

"No to who first reach Police station dem dey take win case " is a popular Nigerian Pidgin proverb.

u nailed it in this narration. Bravo!

erunz:
The truth of the matter is that even if anyone rejects the fact “that Ife Monarchy is derived from Igodo monarchy”, it changes nothing about the reality that the Monarchy in Benin City is still Number One among Oduduwa’s children. I mean: let it be assumed that Oduduwa came from Egypt, Mecca, Sudan, Ethiopia (where the Oromo Region has a nationality fraction called Oromiyas) or from Orun, as heaven or a place we do not know, with a chain made of iron if not some other metal, it does not change the fact that the dumb one who learnt to talk by naming himself Owomika, ‘my hand has stuck it’, the first Benin monarch after the Ogisos, was the first child of Oramiyan whose children built the empires that our part of the world remembers.

I am a Republican, not a Royalist. But, in a country in which we have all conceded the coexistence of Republican and Royalist values, it should be considered quite unseemly to watch one set of the interacting values being rough-handled, muddied or treated with improper decorum without feeling a need to intervene on behalf of rectitude. I have been so challenged since the eruption of the controversy ignited by the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo, who allowed himself to do a ranking of Yoruba Obas that placed the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy. In one sense, as Chief David Edebiri, the Esogban of Benin, immediately retorted, it is wrong to rank the Oba of Benin among Yoruba Obas because the Oba of Benin is not a Yoruba and therefore cannot be placed on a list of Yoruba Obas. I call it ‘in a sense’ because the Esogban’s position may be disputed on the grounds, as will soon be clear, that there is too much siblinghood between Yoruba and Benin traditional rulers for the ethnic difference between them to be rendered in cast-iron terms.

The special relationship between Yoruba and Benin obas, not unlike the relationship between Benin and Onitsha kings, or between Lagos and Edo kings, makes it all the more impolitic to do a ranking of the Benin monarchy in Yoruba royal affairs without abiding by certain inter-subjective and shared norms. And let me note, very quickly, that it is the presence of such norms that makes it quite normal for Chief Edebiri to put the Oba of Benin as Number One without appearing to contradict himself. In his response to the Alake, Chief Edebiri has argued, quite simply, that the term oba was not used to describe Yoruba kings until the Oba of Benin got there. This may well be disputed. Except that it has the merit of being close to verisimilitude when he argues that the king of Ibadan was called Olu, the king of Abeokuta was called Alake, the king of Oyo was called Alaafin; only the Benin monarch was Oba. With the backing of glotto-cultural studies, however, we should be able to impute that the term, Oba, is a root word shared by both the Yoruba and the Edo languages and that among the sixteen kings that reigned in Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa’s party, many had Oba as prefix to their names. To say this amounts to jumping ahead of the argument a little. But let me add, for those who are not familiar with this piece of anthropology, that Oduduwa, the acknowledged founder-ancestor, the progenitor of the Yoruba nationality, was a stranger who met a historical line of obas in Ile Ife, the last of whom was Obatala, the leader of the Igbo, the autochthons, later deified as god of creativity or creation, sometimes synced with Orunmila, for wisdom. Make your pick.

Let me also add that from the studies of the Ifa divination system made by several scholars, as imbibed from traditional Ifa devotees, it is those sixteen elders whom Oduduwa met in Ife that provided the sub-structure of Ifa as a formal system of wisdom into which people could be initiated in the way that we all go to tertiary institutions to learn philosophy, jurisprudence and mathematics. Or mathemagics, if you like. It is of very grave significance in this narrative that we should acknowledge that the Ifa Divination system, before the intervention of Islam, Christianity, and Lord Frederick Lugard’s balkanisation and regionalisation of traditional gnosis, was based on the existential patterns or prowess of the sixteen elders, or kings, who formed the planks upon which the wisdom of the people, by ritual accretions, was organised. Every good student of Ifa should know that in the Edo Divination system of Igwega, two of the sixteen elders have been displaced by Edo personages who are not to be found in the Ife version as designed by Agbonmiregun, the Master, who went from Ekiti to Ile Ife and established the rounded system of Ifa Divination as passed by other masters between the Edo, Nupe, Igala and Yoruba devotees. It can be imagined that, as a matter of ritual, they gathered at Ife, which was quite the centre of their world, for a divination that transcended ethnicities but was based on a common worship of the earth mother, Efa. All the forest peoples, from Dahomey to the Cameroon mountains, across the Nri of Igboland and past Ogoja, were devotees of one form or other of Ifa Divination. The historian, Ade Obayemi, has imputed that so many concepts in Yoruba Ifa, which some devotees may regard as mumbo jumbo, are actually Nupe terms that proper glotto-cultural analysis and translation could redeem. This partly explains why Benin Kings could induct or abduct and adopt Igbo medicine men who became part of the common national culture, as Egharevba, the Benin historian vouchsafes. What a linguistic, glotto-cultural analysis tells us is that in Ile-ife, before the dispersal occasioned by Oduduwa’s emergence, the Yoruba language, as one among many in the Kwa language complex, was once the same language with others including the Igbo and that they still share common root words beyond the simple ones like Omi and miri.

So if Chief Edebiri’s resort to linguistic analysis wont help a resolution of the ranking of the Yoruba obas, what will? I suppose it is the discomfort of trying to answer such a question, and the fear of being wrong-footed in a bid to dabble into what appears to be quite esoteric, that has warded off many of the dignitaries who have been asked by journalists to respond to the controversy. Some of them think it a needless controversy that could detract from more worthwhile issues of the moment. True, there are crying problems that our society needs to face and resolve. Some political entrepreneurs who require a united front in order not to disperse collective energies have been quick to advise against worsening of the already existing inter-ethnic divisions in our midst. Somehow, they do not consider that to ignore the controversy or down play its driven logic, could harden the ranking that has been attempted and, to that extent, make it quite affirmable with the accretion of time. Of course, those who are already convinced of its veracity and have lived in the shadow of its ritualised affirmation, all their lives, would want the ranking to remain as they know it. Hence, they act bored by the controversy and would therefore wish that we move on quickly to other matters. Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on how you see it) the controversy won’t go away.

It happens to be the case that the ranking of the Obas takes on a life of its own within every effort to build a sense of common nationality among Yoruba people. Every bid by the Yoruba to unite under a common leader or in conformity with a presumption of common ancestry, has always yielded one form of such ranking or the other. It has become part of a modernist or modernising project which nation-builders escape only when they are able to put the knowledge industry at the centre of their quest.

At any rate, this is not the first time it has visited or reared its head. The ranking, as it happens, is so deeply rooted in the ethnic unconscious of some people that there is good reason for the palace in Benin City to wish, with each eruption of the controversy, to put the records, or lack of records, straight. It happens to be the case that the ranking of the Obas takes on a life of its own within every effort to build a sense of common nationality among Yoruba people. Every bid by the Yoruba to unite under a common leader or in conformity with a presumption of common ancestry, has always yielded one form of such ranking or the other. It has become part of a modernist or modernising project which nation-builders escape only when they are able to put the knowledge industry at the centre of their quest. Especially, with the establishment of the Egbe Omo Oduduwa on home ground in 1948, the business of building up such a knowledge industry, creating a formal historiography to get it right, has been part of every bid at nation-building. With bounding successes in research and publications, everything seemed to be going fine before the regression that came with political crisis in the sixties and the virtual abandonment of the enlightenment project that Obafemi Awolowo is still rightly praised for.

http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/benin-kingdom-vs-yoruba-race-why-oba-of-benin-is-number-one-by-odia-ofeimun/

this crap again?

Dindondin:
clearly...
the two cultures borrowed a lot from another.
but who really owned Olokun, Obatala, etc.
Why didn't we have their concrete version of story for Benins.
why is it only the Yoruba ones that we have.
why is Benin not begger than yorubaland.
why is their culture influenced sonmuch with Yoruba stuff.
its logical to accept that Oduduwa may be from Benin.
but its senseless to think the Benins created yorubaland like some lying elders in Benin do

Traditional Edo form of worship is more of ANCESTRAL worship. Edos borrowed some DEITY worship from Yorubas. Both forms are practiced across Edo till date. Ogun, Ishango, Osun were borrowed from Yorubas, and maybe Olokun as well.

You asked why Benin isn't bigger than Yorubaland? Why isn't England bigger than USA? Why isn't Portugal bigger than Brazil? Why isn't Spain bigger than Mexico?

Why is their culture so much influenced by Yoruba stuff? Not much. Edo language, mannerism, worldview and culture are totally different from Yoruba. It's natural for neighbours to share some words. Yoruba and Igbo even share some words.

No Benin elder ever said Benin created Yorubaland. You should learn to differentiate between a people and a stool. Ekaladerhan who was heir to the throne was banished from Benin. He wandered into Ife, became king and renamed himself Imadoduwa (I did not miss the path to glory). Yorubas corrupted this as Oduduwa. Upon Ogiso Owodo's (Ekaladerhan's father) demise, Benin king makers insisted that the rightful person ruled Benin, so they sought him and found him in Ife. Oduduwa refused to return to Benin but appointed his son Oranmiyan to rule in Benin. Oranmiyan's first son, Eweka I, began the Oba dynasty in Benin. Oranmiyan fled Benin and migrated northward, founded Oyo and became the first Alaafin of Oyo. Oranmiyan then ended the cycle by returning to Ife to take over his father's throne.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Bring it here. You dont tell us to research Ile Ife history, do you? You tell it to us as if you are an expert on it.

It's Benin's turn. Bring your history here, tell it, and stop hiding behind macof. No Yoruba person deflects the history of Ife to a non Yoruba to tell. Bini must tell their own history and not deflect to Yoruba's account.

The truth of the matter, if you review threads here in Nairaland is that never has the story of Bini been told without using the greatness of Yoruba civilization as its anchor to shore credits and regal power. Never!

That nonsense is stopping now!

Since you believe you gave Yoruba its civilization and State, tell us your own beginning as a civilized and state power. Go to your beginning.

Where did Igodomigodo come from, who were the indigenes of the land prior, how was the land conquered, how did Ogiso dynasty take root, whats the chain of rulership, whats the structure of state, who were the heroes, the legends, the conquerors, the priests, .....showcase your greatness now or shut up forever and accept what Ooni said, Bini (not Edo) is a Yoruba dynasty.

Yorubas own the title Oba, no other society use Oba but Yorubas. Anywhere you hear Oba, its a Yoruba kingdom and state. Bini never used or use Oba.....you have Omo n'Oba.

You can twist Omo n'Oba into any fanciful meaning you want....but everyone know what Omo means, what Oba means....and they are not stewpid not to know what the combination of Omo and Oba stand for.

I don't think I have ever heard of Omo n'oba Eweka before but Oba Eweka!

Yoruba allowed the conjecture for too long, waving it as the work of drunken Oba in Bini. Now we know they actually believe their own lies.

The "obagodo" too is a recent phenomenon that was thrown around me lately but, they couldn't defend it when I asked them to show where he was ever mentioned. They make up stories that can't stand each day. It's now "Imaduwa" not "izoduwa". The more they hear full meaning of a Yoruba word, the more they go rewrite their history. We haven't see the last of this, the more we allow their stories with no leg or tail to continue the more brazen they get.

The so-called oba in Bini is not even a real king, and this is what happens when A SLAVE IS ALLOWED IN THE HOUSE, HE BEGINS TO INSULT THE ROYALS.

History is very sweet, can you people continue tomorrow with fresh facts and not a repeat of today. A country without history is going into extinction just like Nigeria will in the next generations to come, sad. Since our educated illitreates have decided to abolish history from schools, very sad. Anyway, they don't their children yet unborn to know they were criminals, pen rubbers and hardened THIEVES. History must be taught in schools.

frisky2good:
The current one chose "Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Erediauwa I" while the previous one was "Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, Akenzua II". Look stop deceiving yourself. The official title of Benin king is Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo

Hehehe Yorubas and s tupidityy Sha are like Siamese twins. Please don't even write anything about the bini empire you obviously don't know nothing,please leave the bini empire out of your dead brain.

An essay for the forest peoples....

You wonder why the author of this essay strives to drive the Igbo into this useless tussle of archaic proportions...

Fat ObAs justling for recognition in a world moving past then....I suggest they all seat back in their tax-haven palaces and watch Keeping up with the Kardasians....Kim could give them a lesson or two in attention seeking.

Wyttcat:
Yoruba allowed the conjecture for too long, waving it as the work of drunken Oba in Bini. Now we know they actually believe their own lies.

The "obagodo" too is a recent phenomenon that was thrown around me lately but, they couldn't defend it when I asked them to show where he was ever mentioned. They make up stories that can't stand each day. It's now "Imaduwa" not "izoduwa". The more they hear full meaning of a Yoruba word, the more they go rewrite their history. We haven't see the last of this, the more we allow their stories with no leg or tail to continue the more brazen they get.

The so-called oba in Bini is not even a real king, and this is what happens when A SLAVE IS ALLOWED IN THE HOUSE, HE BEGINS TO INSULT THE ROYALS.

Lol look who is calling bini Oba slave, you Yorubas are the real slaves that's why majority of you were sold during the slave trade. You people will continue to be slaves, you have been conquered several times not only by the bini kingdom.

Lol descendants of returned slaves always want to be heard.

frisky2good:
The current one chose "Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Erediauwa I" while the previous one was "Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, Akenzua II". Look stop deceiving yourself. The official title of Benin king is Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo

Incredible! Some of you kids will never ever learn with the way you go about being proud of your ignorance. I am not really interested in the fight. I just wanted to enjoy the thread but was shocked at the level of ignorance among some of you. How can the Benin king title be Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo? Do you even know what that means? Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo is just like when you call someone a name like " the slayer of the mighty" or "the champion of the people". How is that the title of the stool?

Dindondin:

You didn't counter other points, you only mentioned the part that you think you can talk about.
Learn more about your true history.
I m a Yoruba man, the one that thinks logically not with myths alone.
Eweka means my leaf (trado medicine) conquers it. And if its Owomika, it means my hand conquers it.
This is Oranmiyan's expression for naming is child Eweka.
It is Yoruba word.
You should tell me Benin's gave Yorubas their language too.
Only one thing is debatable, the migration of Oduduwa to Ife.
Even if he was Ekaladiran, the fact remains that his last son Oranmiyan was the 1st Oba of Benin.
Oranmiyan has elderly bro & sis. Alaketu, Olowu, Onipopo, Onisabe, Orangun of Ila Owa of Obokun. These towns still exist till today.
So...technically, Oba of Benin is younger than those listed above.
Why Benin's skip these part is what is not clear.
And claiming seniority over a group that is far advanced than you makes a mockery of your origin.
Benind should be logical with their story...

Lol Yorubas and lies eh, so Eweka don turn to Yoruba word.
Please stick to your version of Yoruba history and leave out bini in your misery.
We didn't skip nothing and have no reason to do that to an inferior people.

In Yoruba version your Oronmiyan was the last born which is non of our business,stick to what you know and we stick to what we know.

snailspeed:


Incredible! Some of you kids will never ever learn with the way you go about being proud of your ignorance. I am not really interested in the fight. I just wanted to enjoy the thread but was shocked at the level of ignorance among some of you. How can the Benin king title be Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo? Do you even know what that means? Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo is just like when you call someone a name like " the slayer of the mighty" or "the champion of the people". How is that the title of the stool?

Don't waste your time replying the mofos, it's obvious they don't think with their brain but with their anus.

I find all their jargons very funny Sha, they are seriously trying to be heard because they have disgraced themselves on here.
Jeez you need to read some of their histories especially their version of Lagos history. Them wan be on top everything lol, I think it's a sign of inferiority complex because the binis don't even care.

That's one of your made-up stories as always. You have no good traceable history or heritage save for MADE TO ORDER you make up daily as you go.

Yoruba were the last sold to slavery, ask yourself why. And guess what, we came back bigger and better than your people will ever be in a hundred lifetimes, and then still colonised you within Nigeria there. You can't trace your ancestry. Your impostor you call oba is a slave that is suffering from inferiority complex.

Everything that makes you human beings has Yoruba written on it, it shows you have always be under us, and nothing can change that. If Yoruba were the kind that do not allow the small around them to grow, your people won't have the gut to talk trash today.

gentleheart1:


Lol look who is calling bini Oba slave, you Yorubas are the real slaves that's why majority of you were sold during the slave trade. You people will continue to be slaves, you have been conquered several times not only by the bini kingdom.

Lol descendants of returned slaves always want to be heard.

Slayer of the mighty or champion of the people but not "KING" of the people. Go back home and tell your uncles to tell you the truth. Ajagungbade is different from ajibade.

snailspeed:


Incredible! Some of you kids will never ever learn with the way you go about being proud of your ignorance. I am not really interested in the fight. I just wanted to enjoy the thread but was shocked at the level of ignorance among some of you. How can the Benin king title be Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo? Do you even know what that means? Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo is just like when you call someone a name like " the slayer of the mighty" or "the champion of the people". How is that the title of the stool?

frisky2good:
Slayer of the mighty or champion of the people but not "KING" of the people. Go back home and tell your uncles to tell you the truth. Ajagungbade is different from ajibade.

Wow! You even have a comprehension problem to add to your ignorance? At this point, I can't help you. I give up! Aaahhhhh!

When a stupid person is losing an argument, he devites from the facts and brings in insult. You can't help me cos you need help yourself.

snailspeed:


Wow! You even have a comprehension problem to add to your ignorance? At this point, I can't help you. I give up! Aaahhhhh!

frisky2good:
When a stupid person is losing an argument, he devites from the facts and brings in insult. You can't help me cos you need help yourself.

so you join believe too say oduduwa fall from sky. Lol. My guy Oba of Bini na the highest because na there father of Yoruba land(izoduwa a.k.a oduduwa) hail from.

frisky2good:
When a stupid person is losing an argument, he devites from the facts and brings in insult. You can't help me cos you need help yourself.

You have an argument? You couldn't even comprehend the post, how can you possibly have an argument? Your response was hilarious. I was almost rolling on the floor.

I said, Omo n Oba N'edo Uku.Akpolokpolo is just like when you call someone a name like " the slayer of the mighty" or "the champion of the people" then you went on to say that proves your point since there is no king in the phrase? You mean you don't understand the meaning of "it is just like"? What school did you attend? I am ashamed I am explaining this to you like a primary school pupil. Just ashamed honestly

Wyttcat:
That's one of your made-up stories as always. You have no good traceable history or heritage save for MADE TO ORDER you make up daily as you go.

Yoruba were the last sold to slavery, ask yourself why. And guess what, we came back bigger and better than your people will ever be in a hundred lifetimes, and then still colonised you within Nigeria there. You can't trace your ancestry. Your impostor you call oba is a slave that is suffering from inferiority complex.

Everything that makes you human beings has Yoruba written on it, it shows you have always be under us, and nothing can change that. If Yoruba were the kind that do not allow the small around them to grow, your people won't have the gut to talk trash today.

Hehehe very funny please stop trying to deny that you Yorubas are slaves. The whole world knows that majority of you were sold during the slave trade and that's why some of you were able to trace your way back even from Sierra Leon.
You don't know nothing about your yeye history, a slave will always be a slave. Have you ever wondered why majority of your Obas are always installed based on who is the richest in Yoruba land because you people don't have regard for royalty and it's worthless to you all.

Wyttcat:
That's one of your made-up stories as always. You have no good traceable history or heritage save for MADE TO ORDER you make up daily as you go.

Yoruba were the last sold to slavery, ask yourself why. And guess what, we came back bigger and better than your people will ever be in a hundred lifetimes, and then still colonised you within Nigeria there. You can't trace your ancestry. Your impostor you call oba is a slave that is suffering from inferiority complex.

Everything that makes you human beings has Yoruba written on it, it shows you have always be under us, and nothing can change that. If Yoruba were the kind that do not allow the small around them to grow, your people won't have the gut to talk trash today.

You Yorubas don't have good traceable history that's why you claimed that your Oduduwa the masquerade fell from the sky and created you nutheads and I guess that's why y'all can't reason properly.
Don't worry your Oduduwa will fall from the sky again and redeem you all from your misery.

opal4real:


Lol!

D old woman is an oghion'ba kevbe oghien'do, tell her when next you see her.

Your points aint valid coz Yoruba n Edo alphabets(cosonants/vowels) are similar.

I can list 100 Edo words that begins with Ö and used as a person i.e Odion which is Kehinde in Yoruba.

You are the biggest dunce on nairaland, would you like me to list Yoruba words that are similar to igbo language?
mumu that will never learn will remain a mumu for life.

Interesting thread, however lots of ignorance being displayed. What you are, can be vastly different from what you wish to be. Carbon dating has actually shown one civilization to be older than the other, yet people are still here arguing. My 2 kobo! mtsheew....kissing teeth!

Political ooni who has to be sanctioned by a constitutional governor. Yorubas ought to be ashamed. They are evading the question regarding the father of oduduwa or his place of origin. The bini tradition has the eldest son succeeding to the throne not like one former Banker accused of graft and has to be selected through palace politics after bribing all the king makers and APC political godfathers. You wonder why he is paying homage to all those who contributed to making him ascend the throne. What history of his throne does he know. At the height of Benin empire. Dahomey was a tributary of benin...that why in the 1970s, the people of benin republic came to benin city to seek approval from Oba Akenzuwa to rename Dahomey Benin republic in honour to Benin.

The fact that the obas in yorubaland always want to rank themselves to feel good or get threatened when they here the word eze Ndigbo is a sign of inferiority complex and the lowest level of pettiness the obaship in yorubaland had fallen.


You wonder why they have rapist,london roadside bread eaters or corrupt ex police offices who are not different from agberos, all as obas in yorubaland..?..



Btw why are binis crying,I thought after biafra you will go with the yorubas since you share a lot in common?

All those bini we niger deltans always attacking anything biafra or igbo where are u guys, come and defend your oba abi na kabiasi...mtchewwww


Shame, shame shame

You lot should leave Benin people alone. We're not Yorubas and never will be. The only similarities between us is that we're both members of the Black race and live in Nigeria, that's it.