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Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by iHustle(m): 10:11pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
ifihearam: Itsekiri royal house are from Benin. The first Olu was prince Ginuwa. Ogiame is a benin word meaning king of the water (river). |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by AreaFada2: 10:12pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
cbrass: Well, any Itsekiri who speaks it fluently should understand a good amount of Yoruba. It is a Yoruboid language. Itsekiri were mostly Ijebu and some other Yoruba groups who settled there. The Royal family & some other noble families came from Benin. As usual, over the years, the nobles/royalty also adopted the Yoruboid ways/language. The Royal family of Sweden is French, but the Swedes are not French. Awo was said to have been surprised just how close to Yoruba the Itsekiri culturally were. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Omeny: 10:14pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
olagamalin: Neither was and is Benin palace interested in supremacy tussle too! After all, it all started here and the Binis had to reply! Are you sure u read their response very well? Let's let things that are artificial be whilst also allow Natural things to be Natural! Nobody is interested or have anything to gain inall these, but the youth and up coming ones need the truth and not confusion here and there! |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 10:19pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Shymm3x: While listenin to the 'The Documentary 2.5' by Game, I saw my brother's comment which I construed to be a jab at Ife so I paused the music to get 'atchu' ![]() Yes, Ijebu liked us back then but we annexed errrm Oke Igbo through Ooni Derin Ologbe nla. We also errrm annexed *side glance here* Ife Odan through Ooni Ogboru. Also, - ran out of citations. And at sweetgala, yes being born by a prince or Ooni makes one a prince/ess but Ife do not use or recognize princes/esses - there's no Omo Oba as a recognition, title or classification; you're a a commoner like everyone until you initiate to become a Sooko. Yes, you have to be initiated to get the recognition of your birth status but then you become a Sooko and it stops there. W/out initiation, parading yourself as a Prince in Ife will draw unfriendly reactions. This is why the appelation of prince/ess holds no weight nor makes any meaning to Ife people. Ooni Ogunwusi had to be quickly initiated as a Sooko before being initiated as an Ooni, why? Because he was no 'prince'. 4 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by iHustle(m): 10:23pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Dindondin: You have brought your ignorance to this thread. No Yoruba has ever ruled Benin or Warri. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by papparatzzi2013: 10:25pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Benin people should simply read up on Ugie Erha Oba festival. The two most important rituals of divine kingship are Ugie Erha Oba, which honors the king's royal paternal ancestors, and Igue, which augments the king's own mystical powers. These two rituals, which were introduced by Oba Ewuare in the fifteenth century, are equally concerned with the concept of divine kingship, although in Ugie Erha Oba the king is the officiant of the rite and in Igue he is the object (Ben-Amos 1980:82). Ugie Erha Oba is preceded by a ritual in which all the families of Benin commemorate their own paternal ancestors. This is followed by Ugie Igun, in which rites honoring each former king are performed individually. The rites honoring the father of the present Oba, Ugie Erha Oba itself, begin with a greeting ceremony, Otue, in which the living king receives the homage of all his chiefs and titleholders, in order of their rank. They greet him and receive gifts of kola nuts and palm wine in return, thus dramatically showing their acceptance of his superiority and of their own rank in the Benin sociopolitical hierarchy. In the central rite of Ugie Erha Oba, the Oba appears in public, dressed lavishly (fig. 11), preceded by the Ifiento, retainers who clear a path for him with magically charged bracelets (see fig. 49). Sacrifices are performed to appease evil spirits, honor the earth, and to commemorate the Oba's father, the focus of the day's events. The chiefs, dressed elaborately, again demonstrate their support and reverence for the king by dancing past him with upraised ceremonial eben swords (fig. 12). The king, dressed in his most elaborate beaded costume, then performs in similar fashion with an eben before the altar dedicated to his father. Ugie Erha Oba concludes with a ritual called Iron, in which the seven Uzama engage in a mock battle with supporters of the king, who eventually triumph (fig. 13). This part of the festival refers to the past conflicts between the Oba and the Uzama, who represent the original people of Benin as opposed to the alien rulers from Ife. The inclusion of Iron in the ceremony honoring the ancestors of the king emphasizes the supremacy of the Obas and the struggles that were necessary for them to achieve it; it also indicates the Oba's ability to vanquish any enemies who may oppose him during the coming year; finally, it illustrates the historical consciousness that has motivated so much of Benin art and ritual. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by AreaFada2: 10:26pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
sweetgala: On January 7, 1952 at the opening of the Western House of Assembly the Alake of Abeokuta said this: On my right sits the Oni of Ife; On my left, the Leader of our Government, Obafemi Awolowo. The Voice of the West is complete. This was in Ibadan, not even in Egbaland. He completely ignored Oba of Benin, Akenzua II and other minority royals & leaders seated. Of course Oba of Benin walked out and others of Delta followed. Obviously, they were not part of the West and wanted to have their own region. Midwest/Bendel was the only democratically created region/state through a popular vote/referendum. Others were by colonial fiat or military fiat. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Dexema(m): 10:38pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
sweetgala:of all the comments I have read on this power/ego tussle yours makes most sense, the bini kingdoms political and commercial power due to its strategic location doesn't remove the fact that it's current structure was inspired by a source, more like a capital. on another note, I'm sincerely tired of this back and forth historical tussles, I believe politics and modern government has created a vacuum between these Kings hence the issues. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Shymm3x: 10:39pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
9jacrip: Lol. It wasn't a jab...I just had to correct the distortion cos ya Ife brother was trying to turn Ife into Oyo. Even Oyo at the height of its empire status never annexed Epe or any part of Ijebuland. Ife and Ijebu are cool. We've got ya back like the verizon man and like we've always done. But the new Ooni needs to slow down - he's moving too fast. ![]() Duke of Ijebuland. ![]() |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 10:56pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Shymm3x: LOL, stay having our back bro - we're starting to have land issues with non-Ife and we may go to war soon. So y'all need to prepare for our call any moment from now. There's an Epe in Ondo, any connection with the one in Lagos? Hopefully, the Ooni won't put us and the throne in bad light soon. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by sweetgala(m): 10:59pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
9jacrip: And how do you conclude that I may not be a sooko ! |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by bokohalal(m): 11:03pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Dindondin:Aqra . One thing is clear the first Olu of Warri and Oba of Benin were not Yorubas. Oduduwa did not feature in Itsekiri history till recently |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by babyfaceafrica: 11:04pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Omeny:the youths should face their future and leave distorted historical facts alone..... |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by sweetgala(m): 11:05pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Shymm3x: Ife in itself was an annexed land, history makes it clear Oduduwa was the uniting force in Ife, it is also obvious that what is now oyo at some stage cam under the control of Oduduwa or his lineage, same for owo, ondo under the osemawe, Ila, Owu and if we may say for cause of argument Bini. Among many others, those areas which were dominated by the sons/garndsons of oduduwa were occupied. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by olagamalin(m): 11:07pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Omeny: Oooh.. .meaning the Binu High Chief that embarked on an inciteful voyage to Mountain Olympus to counter the excited assertions of the Alake was merely a figment of our collective imagination. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by dejavski(m): 11:17pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
ifihearam:If I may ask was Ogiame Antonio Domingo a full blooded itsekiri? Cos history has it that his mother was of Portuguese descent |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by mjoo(m): 11:19pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Oranmiyan was the founder of the Oyo Empire (The first Oba/Alaafin), and the father of Eweka I, the first Oba of the Benin empire, which marked the end of the Ogiso dynasty, and the beginning of the Omo n'Oba dynasty, the dynasty that propelled the Benin empire into its Imperial period That is the real fact for all dis little children who don't knw history 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by tpiar: 11:24pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Lewisj(m): 11:36pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Pprovost:your father is a drunkard, idiot. Learn to respect your elders. Who wants to be associated with your tribe |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 11:39pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
sweetgala: Good question, I thought of this but then I wasn't expecting a Sooko or someone involved in Ife to use 'Prince'. Apologies if you are, uncle. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by okuneddie(m): 11:46pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
bokohalal: bros I disagree with u sir.... let me show u Ada Ogun that the old Yoruba use in wars and it is even in museums abroad.....now tell me if what u said is true 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by giantstrides(m): 11:48pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
santino09: They sure don't respect you also, they respect no one. There is no sense in the direction you are driving at. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by nokingasgod: 11:50pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Shymm3x: You are very right, the level of ignorance is some times nauseating, for example, how can you refer to the Ooni as His Imperial Majesty when in all history, Ife was never recorded as growing beyond the town to become an empire. Think it would be appropriate for the Alaafin to be referred to as His Imperial Majesty. Same vein, the Alake was quoted to have purported that the Ooni is first followed by Alaafin. Though this is enmeshed in history but what is particularly curious and laughable is that he went ahead to list the Alake as pre-eminent over the Awujale when Abeokuta was only recently founded in the 19th century whereas the Awujale stool predated the 16th century. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by okuneddie(m): 12:07am On Feb 25, 2016 |
Shymm3x: keep talking about Ijebu armies......ur OKO IYA dey Ibadan....That's the best army Yorubaland had ever produced......they defeated the Fulani warriors that wanted to take over Yoruba land.....I guess they were led by El kanemi or was it Ustman danfodio 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Dindondin(m): 12:07am On Feb 25, 2016 |
iHustle:shut up! The 1st Oba of Benin, Oranmiyan is a Yoruba man. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by YonkijiSappo: 12:24am On Feb 25, 2016 |
sweetgala: It is also present in the Ondo King's Palace (Osemawe) look at the sitting servant. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 12:24am On Feb 25, 2016 |
9jacrip: I guess he was alluding to the Epe in Ondo cos nobody annexed us. The undefeated Ijebus. ![]() Shyte, just shout me when the war kicks off. As the Duke of Ijebuland, I shall send 200,000 Ijebu special forces with AK48 and Iskander missiles to annihilate whoever wants to desecrate the sacred city of Ife. Lol. The Ooni is already hooked to some Bini cum bucket with that ol'good pum, while trying to make a who.re a housewife. And he has EFCC chasing him around. Things aren't looking too good for ya Ooni, after the initial hype. ![]() |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 12:25am On Feb 25, 2016 |
This 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by tpiar: 12:26am On Feb 25, 2016 |
9jacrip: there are also Epes in Osun and Ekiti states, possibly Oyo state too, look at those ones as well. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by Nobody: 12:30am On Feb 25, 2016 |
nokingasgod: Oyo died centuries ago. What you have now is a 'makeshift' Oyo, so stop it! Not knowing the difference between the actual Oyo and the present day Oyo is another level of ignorance and not knowing military might is never a yardstick for superiority/greatness is also another level of ignorance entirely and it makes some of us retch. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi, Ascended Our Father Oduduwa's Throne" - Olu Of Warri by oluwasegun007(m): 12:30am On Feb 25, 2016 |
see historians everywhere.... ye ye. |
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