GBR1:

The season does not start tomorrow, does it? and i have already projected the PL to gain more this season either way this season so we definitely going to be starting ahead of Italy next season.
Now and again listen to yourself, have you forgotten the coefficients of 2016/17 season would be needed to compute the rank of the leagues for 2018? so how can you determine the PL would be 4th by 2018 when you have no idea how PL teams would perform by then?
so what is this statement in bold supposed to mean? I'm very curious to see how you would spin this.

This is the part about you I dont like unnecesary agidi (I no go gree) when you are in the wrong

You clearly didnt know or overlooked that the 11/12 coeffcient drops of which is why you were confidently telling us Lazio alone cannot overturn it. As at the time you posted Europa draws havent been made and you didnt know EPL is guaranteed a place in the quarters.

Admit that you have learnt something you didnt know and move on

GBR1:
So 4 spots for 2017-18 are secured for PL. PL teams though should really use this opportunity to capitalize so as to negate last season when Italy gained 5.5 coefficient points on England.

4 places is not secured for the EPL like you claimed above. It only becomes assured when they can get an additional 0.3 points more than Italian representatives remaining

ollah1:



They don't need to win on both grounds. Their first leg is away, if they can do that comfortably. A draw is more than enough to see them thru.

Man u has defeated Liverpool on 4 occasions. LVG has a perfect record of them but u shld note that Rodgers anchored three matches while Klopp anchored just one.

It won't be a walk over for either team and Liverpool will put up a fight. The two biggest teams go head to head in the second tier European club competition

We beat them home and away this season, klopp- 2

GBR1:

The season does not start tomorrow, does it? and i have already projected the PL to gain more this season either way so we're definitely going to be starting ahead of Italy next season.
Now and again listen to yourself, have you forgotten the coefficients of 2016/17 season would be needed to compute the rank of the leagues for 2018? so how can you determine the PL would be 4th by 2018 when you have no idea how PL teams would perform by then(in 2016/2017)? so what is this statement in bold supposed to mean? I'm very curious to see how you would spin this.

Ramuzaki for you!!!

GBR1:

The season does not start tomorrow, does it? and i have already projected the PL to gain more this season either way so we're definitely going to be starting ahead of Italy next season.
Now and again listen to yourself, have you forgotten the coefficients of 2016/17 season would be needed to compute the rank of the leagues for 2018? so how can you determine the PL would be 4th by 2018 when you have no idea how PL teams would perform by then(in 2016/2017)?
so what is this statement in bold supposed to mean? I'm very curious to see how you would spin this.

Another false statement

The coefficient for this season 2015/16 would NOT affect slots for next season 2016/17 they would only affect from 2017/18

Thus 2016/17 would only start taking effect from 2018/19

Ramuzaki get schooled again? This time on manure thread?

Olodo afofun ni bobo weyrey yen!

Pataki:
Ramuzaki get schooled again? This time on manure thread?

Olodo afofun ni bobo weyrey yen!

Dindinrin Pataki e be like say the Barca beating still dey give you hangover

You cant even see schooling when it hits you in the face. I am the one taking Adelana1 to school here which is why he ran away

he is waiting for someone to say something so he can co-sign

raumdeuter:


Dindinrin Pataki e be like say the Barca beating still dey give you hangover

You cant even see schooling when it hits you in the face. I am the one taking Adelana1 to school here which is why he ran away

he is waiting for someone to say something so he can co-sign

You don find persin wey you go dey do shakara with abi? Kontinuuuu


Ur days of koboko lashing dey come soon.

Pataki:
You don find persin wey you go dey do shakara with abi? Kontinuuuu

Ur days of koboko lashing dey come soon.

You no get shame, No be agbalagba iya like you suppose dey educate the EPL fans. Shebi you say you get 2-2 for Osiele college of education?

But instead of teaching them critical reasoning, na "La be igi orombo, nibe lagbe sere wa" you go dey teach them all day

See what airmarks life has turned into as a result of such education you gave him.

when he was still using slate and crayon till SS3. he thinks the whole world is about gifs and pictures

raumdeuter:


Another false statement

The coefficient for this season 2015/16 would NOT affect slots for next season 2016/17 they would only affect from 2017/18

Thus 2016/17 would only start taking effect from 2018/19

It does not affect the slot, it affects the rank at that moment. That's what you should have though of when you projected England would start by 4th in 2018 without thinking properly. You should understand the difference.


[img]http://cs633122.vk.me/v633122248/17aac/FejvGVhNYkA.jpg[/img]

GBR1:

It does not affect the slot, it affects the rank at that moment. That's what you should have though of when you projected England would start by 4th in 2018 without thinking properly.

This is the "I no go gree mentality" we talked about. You already goofed on saying lazio has to overturn the 3.6 deficit when lazio doesnt have to do anything close to that. The system would automatically drop the 3.9 advantage the EPL has

All the results for this season doesnt affect the number of teams for next season it would only affect for upper season

So the statement you made here about the 4 spots for 17/81 being secured as at today is completely false. For it to be secured the EPL need to outperform Italy by 0.4 in the remaining games

GBR1:
So 4 spots for 2017-18 are secured for PL. .

GBR1:

It does not affect the slot, it affects the rank at that moment. That's what you should have though of when you projected England would start by 4th in 2018 without thinking properly. You should understand the difference.


[img]http://cs633122.vk.me/v633122248/17aac/FejvGVhNYkA.jpg[/img]

Pataki, Dayo ramuzaki has turned to a laughing stock everywhere he goes.

dopeJemi:



We beat them home and away this season, klopp- 2

Klopp wasn't in charge of the first outing

ollah1:


Klopp wasn't in charge of the first outing

Dont mind him. Klopp even wanted the fixture.

Klopp : "It's great," he told a news conference. "We deserve these games. It's not easy. I told my staff yesterday that I wanted Manchester United. "We had a good game [in January] and lost 1-0. It was not what we deserved.

"It gives us the chance to make it better. In this round, there are no easy games. Manchester United? Good."

ollah1:


Klopp wasn't in charge of the first outing

Oh yes, that is true

raumdeuter:

See what airmarks life has turned into as a result of such education you gave him.

when he was still using slate and crayon till SS3. he thinks the whole world is about gifs and pictures

Pataki see wetin we dey talk

airmark:

Pataki, Dayo ramuzaki has turned to a laughing stock everywhere he goes.

dopeJemi:


Oh yes, that is true

Liverpool na maybe the only team we fit beat for the draw am happy we just might win this thing.

raumdeuter:

This is the "I no go gree mentality" we talked about. You already goofed on saying lazio has to overturn the 3.6 deficit when lazio doesnt have to do anything close to that. The system would automatically drop the 3.9 advantage the EPL has
All the results for this season doesnt affect the number of teams for next season it would only affect for upper season
So the statement you made here about the 4 spots for 17/81 being secured as at today is completely false. For it to be secured the EPL need to outperform Italy by 0.4 in the remaining games

Lazio needs to overturn it. The 2011/12 season won't fall off. The coefficients for 2016/17 are already determined and england remains with 4 slots for that season but these are the 5 seasons that would determine 2017/18 : 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16
You really should have let this go, but you refused. Now you are confused, i can see it clearly.There i correctly stated that PL would still have 4 slots in 2017/18(but italy would start ahead of England that season) , how difficult is this for you to understand?
Who is the agidi person now?

raumdeuter:


You no get shame, No be agbalagba iya like you suppose dey educate the EPL fans. Shebi you say you get 2-2 for Osiele college of education?

But instead of teaching them critical reasoning, na "La be igi orombo, nibe lagbe sere wa" you go dey teach them all day

See what airmarks life has turned into as a result of such education you gave him.

when he was still using slate and crayon till SS3. he thinks the whole world is about gifs and pictures

Agba weyrey. How do you know of FCE oshiele sef? You be graduate from that place? Iwo boy yi, you don waka far! Onisekuse omo ni e!

airmark, keep torturing ramuzaki!

GBR1:
Lazio needs to overturn it. The 2011/12 season won't fall off. The coefficients for 2016/17 are already determined and england remains with 4 slots for that season but these are the 5 seasons that would determine 2017/18 : 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16
You really should have let this go, but you refused. Now you are confused, i can see it clearly.There i correctly stated that PL would still have 4 slots in 2017/18(but italy would start ahead of England that season) , how difficult is this for you to understand?
Who is the agidi person now?

If you have the tenacity to keep flogging a goat, ramuzaki is a higher than a goat.

Pataki:

If you have the tenacity to keep flogging a goat, ramuzaki is a higher than a goat.

I meant no harm to him but the guy simply wouldn't listen. He thought he was schooling me but he was just complicating his errors and grasping at straws.

GBR1:
Lazio needs to overturn it. The 2011/12 season won't fall off. The coefficients for 2016/17 are already determined and england remains with 4 slots for that season but these are the 5 seasons that would determine 2017/18 : 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16
You really should have let this go, but you refused. Now you are confused, i can see it clearly.There i correctly stated that PL would still have 4 slots in 2017/18(but italy would start ahead of England that season) , how difficult is this for you to understand?
Who is the agidi person now?

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/news/newsid=2298033.html

The race between England and Italy to end the season in the top three of the UEFA association club coefficient rankings is the key positional battle ahead of the 2017/18 competition allocations – and so far the Premier League maintains third place from Serie A at the midway point of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League group stages.

Having slipped behind Germany in the UEFA association club coefficient rankings, England are now looking to hold off Italy and retain the all-important third position that will ensure four UEFA Champions League berths in [size=15pt]2017/18[/size].

[size=15pt]The rankings including 2015/16 results will be used to decide allocations in 2017/18.[/size]

Details from UEFA site

Hopefully you would give up now or probably tell us UEFA doesnt know what its sayin

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3441289_uefaranking_jpeg18a83cd576f9833d690b69a7b60b03f9

Lets see how you spin this

I gave the link, I gave the screenshots straight out of UEFA site

Pataki:


Agba weyrey. How do you know of FCE oshiele sef? You be graduate from that place? Iwo boy yi, you don waka far! Onisekuse omo ni e!

How I no go sabi Osiele, No be there I see you drumming for kegites there instead of being in class. Na why you dey teach airmark "labe igi orombo" for 6 yrs

You think say I no sabi you? I even heard you use to hit Oru side sef to go runs Liberian refugees. Oloshi pataki

raumdeuter:


http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/news/newsid=2298033.html



[size=15pt]The rankings including 2015/16 results will be used to decide allocations in 2017/18.[/size]

Details from UEFA site

Hopefully you would give up now or probably tell us UEFA doesnt know what its sayin

You are seriously demented. Your link just vindicated me again, are you drunk currently or what?
[img]http://cs633122.vk.me/v633122248/17b06/HPmkyxau4dQ.jpg[/img]


see what you have been saying

This is the part about you I dont like unnecesary agidi (I no go gree) when you are in the wrong

You clearly didnt know or overlooked that the 11/12 coeffcient drops of which is why you were confidently telling us Lazio alone cannot overturn it. As at the time you posted Europa draws havent been made and you didnt know EPL is guaranteed a place in the quarters.

Admit that you have learnt something you didnt know and move on

and i replied

Lazio needs to overturn it. The 2011/12 season won't fall off. The coefficients for 2016/17 are already determined and england remains with 4 slots for that season but these are the 5 seasons that would determine 2017/18 : 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16

I have quoted you several times so you can't even edit or spin.

Personally I think it's a terrible draw for us. Eventually, we'll lose to Liverpool under LvG considering how we've been playing. It's also terrible for the coefficient as its ensures at least one English team goes out in this round.

GBR1:


You are seriously demented. Your link just vindicated me again, are you drunk currently or what?
[img]http://cs633122.vk.me/v633122248/17b06/HPmkyxau4dQ.jpg[/img]


see what you have been saying

and i replied


I have quoted you several times so you can't even edit or spin.

You are the morronic one here

I have told you that unless EPL is able to best Italy by the remaining 0.3. in the remainder of this season, they would lose for 17/18

WHich is what the UEFA site says that the result for this season is a determinant for what happens in 17/18

Fixture changes and announcements :
Manchester United v Crystal Palace, Saturday 12 March - postponed (due to Emirates FA Cup participation)

Manchester United v West Ham, Emirates FA Cup sixth round, Sunday 13 March at 16:00 BST, live on BT Sport
West Ham United v Manchester United , Saturday 23 April - postponed (due to the clubs being drawn together in the Emirates FA Cup sixth round)

Manchester United v Everton (originally Saturday 2 April), now Sunday 3 April at 16:00 BST, live on Sky Sports

Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United (originally Saturday 9 April), now Sunday 10 April at 16:00 BST, live on Sky Sports

Manchester United v Leicester City (originally Saturday 30 April), now Sunday 1 May at 13:30 BST, live on Sky Sports

GBR1:

I have quoted you several times so you can't even edit or spin.

You are the one known for editing your posts after you have been found out to be lying or plain ignorant

a few days ago he was claiming Mourinho never played Bournemouth

GBR1:

It would have been a factual error if i said "never" but i didn't, so now i could claim i meant otherwise so why should i apologize for an error that didn't even occur. You saw and read what you wanted to see. I didn't even have to edit the post, you quoted it.Obviously i was wrong, but you don't admit errors with raumdeter and he quoted a different post. I have followed the league for a very long time and can't ever remember Bournemouth playing in the EPL until this season, but i forgot Chelsea had already faced them earlier this season with Mourinho in charge.

The post above just shows you as a charlatan Who is wrong most of the time but would just go to any lenght. lie or edit post rather than admit wrong doing

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3441326_gbr_pngbdb82f72e62afca82e70293ce1fafe76

MrTA:
Personally I think it's a terrible draw for us. Eventually, we'll lose to Liverpool under LvG considering how we've been playing. It's also terrible for the coefficient as its ensures at least one English team goes out in this round.

bro d mata tire me oo..see manu fans happy that we drew liverpool..kooop lost to is just because of degea's brilliance which lvg downplayed...we can't b lucky everytime...e get as d match b ooo..

raumdeuter:


You are the morronic one here

I have told you that unless EPL is able to best Italy by the remaining 0.3. in the remainder of this season, they would lose for 17/18

WHich is what the UEFA site says that the result for this season is a determinant for what happens in 17/18

EPL does not need to best Italy by 0.3 to retain slots for 2017/18 because England is still ahead and the 2011/12 points do not drop off as you falsely stated
see my initial post which started the argument

Sometimes you should slow down on this. The difference between England and Italy as of now is 3.6 coefficient points. Assuming Juve and Roma both go out now and without getting any point in return legs, Lazio alone will have to make up those 3.6 coefficient points. Italy started with 6 teams so Lazio need to get 22 points including bonuses. If they win every match from now on in Europa, including final, the max they get is 17. We are also assuming here that English teams get no point from here on which is not likely. So 4 spots for 2017-18 are secured for PL. PL teams though should really use this opportunity to capitalize so as to negate last season when Italy gained 5.5 coefficient points on England. Otherwise England may start slightly behind Italy next season which will determine 2018-19 spots.

You lost this particular argument a long time ago. Anyone who has time to read through the posts would notice this.
I can make it a little easier for since it's obvious you don't really understand the process like you claim to do. This site should enlighten you.

raumdeuter:


Dindinrin Pataki e be like say the Barca beating still dey give you hangover

You cant even see schooling when it hits you in the face. I am the one taking Adelana1 to school here which is why he ran away

he is waiting for someone to say something so he can co-sign

Lool! U must think everyone here is jobless like u. U must think its everyone here that ll be waiting in front of their Laptops or phones waiting for the slightest opportunity to start an argument. But if sitting on Nairaland every day waiting for the opportunity to engage people in e-arguments and then claiming Nairaland football analyst afterwards is ur greatest achievement in life, then who am i to come and try to take away the only one insignificant and irrelevant thing in ur life that gives u any kind of joy??

Look mai fren if u like go to Aso-rock and go tell Buhari u are schooling me. I dont care. I have already told u i wont satisfy ur ignorance by engaging u in any back and forth arguments again on this forum. Besides, i dont have to engage u in an argument to defeat u. Ur level of ignorance is doing that job for me perfectly....

AdeLaNa1:
Lool! U must think everyone here is jobless like u. U must think its everyone here that ll be waiting in front of their Laptops or phones waiting for the slightest opportunity to start an argument. But if sitting on Nairaland every day waiting for the opportunity to engage people in e-arguments and then claiming Nairaland football analyst afterwards is ur greatest achievement in life, then who am i to come and try to take away the only one insignificant and irrelevant thing in ur life that gives u any kind of joy??

Look mai fren if u like go to Aso-rock and go tell Buhari u are schooling me. I dont care. I have already told u i wont satisfy ur ignorance by engaging u in any back and forth arguments again on this forum. Besides, i dont have to engage u in an argument to defeat u. Ur level of ignorance is doing that job for me perfectly....

Once again you have been schooled and ran away with your tails between your legs

Anyday Anytime anywhere. pick any topic in football including your team Man utd I would school you

Like I told you on this thread you are the weakest link. The most ignorant fellow. thats why posters from outside even Arsenal fans find it easy to pick on you

ollah1:



They don't need to win on both grounds. Their first leg is away, if they can do that comfortably. A draw is more than enough to see them thru.

Man u has defeated Liverpool on 4 occasions. LVG has a perfect record of them but u shld note that Rodgers anchored three matches while Klopp anchored just one.

It won't be a walk over for either team and Liverpool will put up a fight. The two biggest teams go head to head in the second tier European club competition

Hehehehe....
Sevilla need to show enough quality to see off Basel, won't be that easy tho but I still expect Man Utd to bundle out Liverpool...