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Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by FreeBoss: 7:14pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
Christianity or Islam which religion first existed? Bible or Quaran which one was first written going by history? From veteran historians and history lovers, I want to know from you which one of the two first existed, christianity or islam? |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by jerryunit48: 7:25pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
Ah Ah , light and dark which one first exist ? See question o 1 Like |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by emorse(m): 7:54pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
Christianity is about 500yrs older than Islam. 2 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by emorse(m): 7:54pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
jerryunit48:Funny you. 1 Like |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by ajokebelle(f): 8:03pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
Christianity came first. Even the Muslims say Mohammed came after Jesus . |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by uckennety(m): 8:26pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
FreeBoss: |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by uckennety(m): 8:27pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
FreeBoss:Islam!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 8:38pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
uckennety: Which islam? Christianity! 1 Like |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by tonie123: 4:38am On Feb 27, 2016 |
uckennety: Olodo Ram Any question asked, the answer is Islam How are you? Islam What's your name? Islam Where are you from? Islam Zombies....... go carry bomb don't you want to meet your virgins and a dick that will stand foreva...lol 5 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 7:51am On Feb 27, 2016 |
Islam came first because the Monotheistic creed of Islam is what Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and even Jesus (peace be upon them all) practiced. Christianity was formed by Paul -the criminal - who was a Jew and enemy of Christ in his lifetime then claimed to have been inspired by a 'spirit' to preach trinity. This trinity doctrine is alien to the Prophets of God and is very similar to the misguided creeds of the pagan Greece and Rome who say Zeus married a mortal woman and begot half human and half god i.e Hercules. Even Britannica mentions that Jesus was more likely to have been known during his lifetime as a teacher and not one of three. This type of deviation is not peculiar to christians alone, it is something common to all messengers that after their demise many of their followers will deviate from the true teachings they left. Usually, a bit of this deviation appeared in the lifetime of the messengers and they would warn against it only for the followers to return to it after their demise. examples: The Jews deviated from Moses' teaching from his lifetime by worshipping the calf, then he warned them against it. After his demise they returned to disbelief and murdered a lot of messengers and even attempted the murder of Jesus! Jesus forbade his followers from worshipping him during his lifetime stating that he was nothing but a teacher only for most of them to follow Paul and his innovated trinity doctrine which was strange to the path of the messengers. Muhammad - alyhissolaat wassalaam - only came to complete the message of those before him. And as usual the people have deviated a lot from his teachings. Worship of grave, excessive veneration of righteous men till they raised them to divine status e.g the shia worship the grave at karbala. Killing of people and tagging it jihad, one great indicator of the falsehood of these jihadists is that they kill Muslims, attack mosques and most importantly they do not have any scholar among them. They are not guided by knowledge except spontaneous combustion of emotions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 7:52am On Feb 27, 2016 |
emorse: Christianity is actually over 600yrs older than islam. |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Ovacoma: 9:48am On Feb 27, 2016 |
Newnas:Lies and deceit as expected. But, quran calls muhamad d first muslin. 4 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 10:22am On Feb 27, 2016 |
Ovacoma: Quran refers to the last Messenger -alyhissolaat wassalaam - as the first Muslim and Moses also as the first Muslim, and even Ibrahim as the first of the Muslims. The meaning of first here is relative first i.e first Muslim in my era or location. Every messenger is the first Muslim in his era and place. Then you should quote where that is stated. As for your claim that what I've said is lies and deceit then it's nothing but a mere claim that is backed by no argument or proof, therefore it is equal to the braying of an arse. So, I recite the verse unto you [say (oh Muhammad alyhissolaat wassalaam to these disbelieving folks) bring forth your evidence if indeed you are truthful] 1 Like |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by jcross19: 10:40am On Feb 27, 2016 |
Newnas:islam is idle worshipping even confirm in the bible in ezekiel 8 vs 16. That depict who allah. Islam is evil before God , desist and give your life to christ. 4 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 12:15pm On Feb 27, 2016 |
jcross19: Sheer stubbornness. no wonder a single atheist will not find any difficulty in crushing 50 Christians! |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 12:23pm On Feb 27, 2016 |
Newnas: Islam is 1400 years old. ![]() https://www.quora.com/How-many-years-old-is-the-religion-of-Islam We need proof. That a religion of 1400 years ago, is greater than a religion which broke out from Judaism, which is would I say the oldest ( asides the ones of the old religion - magic) show us in history (remove the quran and bible) where islam is older than Christianity. Even hinduism, Old religion, Taoism is older than Islam by far! And for the atheist, ![]() Now let's hear you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 2:18pm On Feb 27, 2016 |
Newnas: As someone earlier said on this forum, even the devil will be shocked at some of the lies muslims tell to promote islam. 2 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Amberon: 2:32pm On Feb 27, 2016 |
no wonder the Arab world has not invented anything or contributed to any scientific discovery. inbred fellow. Newnas: 2 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Ovacoma: 10:49pm On Feb 27, 2016 |
Newnas:What proof do u want? How can a true prophet at the same time be a murderer, rapist, highway robber, liar, womwniser, etc etc.? 3 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 4:11am On Feb 28, 2016 |
you all don't know how to answer questions instead you change the subject of discussion from the original topic. It's not something that surprises me because this mental slowness is a characteristic of your path. My point is Abraham and all the prophets after him and before him called to the same monotheistic creed that the last of the Messengers - Alys missolaat wassalaam - called to. Even Jesus himself was referred to as teacher during his lifetime. It is that criminal called Paul that innovated this trinity doctrine which is alien to the way of the Prophets. And it is similar to the same erroneous and misguided creeds of the pagan Greece and Rome who say Zeus married a mortal woman and begot half human and half god i.e Hercules who was later raised to Olympus. So, Islam is not the religion of Muhammad neither is it the religion of the Arabs. Rather it is the path of all prophets. So if you want to give a reasonable answer, what y'all will do is to prove that Abraham and the prophets before and after him all preached trinity or at least a verse where Jesus himself expressly states that he himself should be worshiped. As for these questions that you're asking, I won't answer for two reasons: first; It would be tantamount to digression from the original topic. And I won't be as unwise as you are to indulge in such. second; this is not the first time you are raising these points and enough energy has been used in explaining matters to you. I believe that the one who has any intellect should have found satisfaction in those answers but you disbelievers are as the Quran described you... rather they are an arguing people. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 6:50am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas: Islam , always proving points with sheer pointlessness.... read this The largest Abrahamic religions in chronological order of founding are Judaism (2nd millennium BCE),[6] Christianity (1st century CE) and Islam (7th century CE) Fro here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions For Gods sake, if you are NOT sure of something do not post it to support your claims, Islam is one of the worlds newest religions, Who is even telling you that islam is old, how old, 1400 years? when there are religions like the old religion that has existed for nearly 2000 years (6 A.D) 2 Likes |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 7:08am On Feb 28, 2016 |
gimakon: Man, I taya4u!!! Can't you see that these three religions are in clear contrast to one another. And two opposites can't be true at the same time. The fact that all of them are attributing themselves to Ibrahim doesn't mean they are all from him. So definitely only one of them is truly the religion of Ibrahim. And that is the monotheistic Islam. please open your heart and ponder better before typing! I asked you, did Abraham preach trinity? Did Jesus say worship me? Islam is the only religion that truly follows the path of our father Abraham, all others are innovated and bastard religions especially the one born and falsely attributed to Jesus by that criminal called Paul. |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 7:21am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas: Indirectly , you call Christianity False. ![]() and abraham, whats his business with preaching? Where in your quran did it show that abraham preached the gospel? |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 7:46am On Feb 28, 2016 |
gimakon: You worship God through Jesus?! That's a big lie, you people are just too confused. Many of you call Jesus and ask him for your needs. One of you here on nairaland even called God incarnate. So, stop lying that you don't worship Jesus. Don't you say Jesus is lord? Even if I accept that, for the sake of argument, the fact still remains that your religion is a pagan religion. why? There is hardly no pagan that denies the existence of a Supreme God, but their problem has always been that they took other creators as intermediaries between them and God and thus give one or more forms of worship to these intermediaries besides this Supreme God. Just as the Yoruba have olodumare and took sango, obatala etc as intermediaries. and that is they say "it's the same God we are calling, it's just the way we call that's different" The Arabs before Islam had Allah and took laat and manaat etc as intermediaries. The Christians too chose Jesus as intermediary. Today, many deviated Muslims too take Sheikh AbdulQaadir, and that man Niyas, and the shia too took Ali and his family as intermediaries. So, you see, it's the same misguidance but in different forms. Satan makes people develop extreme and wrong love for the righteous till they transgress the bounds and raise them to divinity. And the argument has usually been the same, they say these men were righteous people and are therefore closer to God than us. So let's take them as intermediaries. And that is where the deviation starts. So, worshipping God true anybody is not justified not even an angel or prophet born by miracle. As for Abraham, The story of how his people threw him into a pit of fire in suratul Anbiyaa suffices as answer for you. |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Exponental(m): 8:05am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Who cares? |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 9:45am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas: And you think muslims don't worship mohamed ![]() ![]() |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by stonemasonn: 9:57am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas:Everything you said make sense except "Monotheistic creed of Islam is what Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and even Jesus (peace be upon them all) practiced" the Jews and some Christians would be offended by it. Now tell me what is the "Monotheistic creed of Islam" ? |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 10:31am On Feb 28, 2016 |
stonemasonn: To worship the One and Only Supreme God without associating any partner with Him in any way.. Not an angel or righteous being should be called upon besides Him nor even under the guise of calling Him through them (i.e taking intermediaries), all forms of worship should be directed to non but Him. |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 10:37am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas: But muslims take mohammed as alllah's partner now, they are partners in crime. ![]() |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 10:51am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Annunaki: Seems you've taken it personal, I understand how it feels when you are out of point and still need to give a reply! As for the cartoons, then it is part of faith to detest the mockery of a pious person, I also have a similar feeling when I see the image of 'Jesus' around in the churches, mockery righteous people is very offensive. it doesn't mean I worship them. However, this does not mean that I support the killings by angry but ignorant people. we don't go to his grave to worship, in fact it is not right to travel to madinah with the intention of visiting his grave alyhissolaat wassalaam. rather you leave for the mosque in madinah but it is not right to pass by any grave without doing the proper prayer for them i.e pray for the believers' graves and give the disbelievers tidings of hell. The madinah mosque is one of the three sacred mosques in Islam, Haram of Makkah, Madinah mosque and Qudus in Palestine. If not for the criminal Jews we would also be performing pilgrimage to Palestine! Actually, whenever we mention him alyhissolaat wassalaam it's only of two cases first; when affirming belief in his messengership i.e I testify that Muhammad is his Messenger. And this is not worship. second; whenever his name is mentioned, we say alyhissolaat wassalaam i.e peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. We are even praying for him, do you pray for God or your deity. So, we worship Allah without any partner, not even Muhammad alyhissolaat wassalaam the last and best of the prophets. Allah says in the Quran after mentioning a number of prophets and saying that he is pleased with them all (..... and if they associated partners (with Allah) all their deeds would be destroyed) 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 11:20am On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas: One question, when you say your prayers, you say in mohammeds name? If the answer is no, we say in Jesus name, O lord hear our prayers, guide and protect us, in Jesus name. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father only by me. If we solicit for our selves and we ask God for things through his own child, I don't see it as wrong doctrine. The same way we see it, is the same way you see mohammed. What if I say the mosaic laws of moses, you worship moses, because virtually old testament laws is what every Muslim follows. See how silly and dragging you talk. Ok your Quran speaks of Jesus as Al mashish,i do hear muslims saying they have accepted Jesus as prophet and Allah as his god, so many things... I would conclude and say the only confused religion in the world is islam. as much as they confuse you,they confuse themselves also. I didn't bother to read about your ibrahim, false tales are what your imams preach, I wonder how one person would practice a religion and would make you come here to say islam is the oldest religion, do you realise that a religion is accepted by many? Let someone like me form one new religion and see how people would look at me. No day confuse me jare. |
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Ovacoma: 12:54pm On Feb 28, 2016 |
Newnas:I say you always lie to promote Islam. So, anyone who is a monotheist is a Muslim? Mention the name(s) of the Gods of the Jews and that of the Christians. |
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