LEGALAide:

Jesus did not abolish the law (tithing).
He fulfilled it by, not just by giving a tenth of what he had, but by giving all he had - his life!

so why didn't the church reject all he had given and accept 10% of his life?? Giving shouldn't be compulsory; giving should be done willingly and not the other way round.. The worst of it, is the "First Fruit" nonsense.. I should give all my monthly earning to the pastor to service his affluent life style.. God is not a begger and can never be.. All he need is for you acknowledge him and love your neighbor as yourself

Tithe or no tithe taketh u not to heaven. Most people that are championing not giving tithe are actually the ones that love money and have pressed 10% of their income on their calculators now and in the future and just cannot let go of what the calculator is showing. Truth is everything u own belongs to God, ur tithe is just a test to know if u r faithful enough to let go of the little so He can bless u with more.

emerged01:


Technically,it says all laws need to be followed. Lesser or no lesser. It is called hypocrisy to practice one without the other.

Does your all laws also include,

1. Do not plant yaw and cassava in the same farm?

2. Do not wear a shirt of 30% polyester and 60% cotton?

Should I go on?

Btruth:
...agreed. but whatever happens to their maintenance and feeding, is that not coming back to tithing?

Are Pastors not going to work again? Are Pastors not running personal business? are Pastors not acquiring material properties? Are Pastors not the ones that started the slogan "MY GOD IS NOT A POOR GOD"? the list is endless my dear.

The inheritance of the priest is the offering while the inheritance of the Levites is the tithe. Remember that even the Levites pay one tenth to the temple. A Priest is forbidden to take inheritance of the Levites while the Levites are also forbidden to eat from the burnt offerings.

sarutobie:

That bible quotation is why I have refrained from unecessary arguments that won't further the gospel.. Christ in that passage made it clear that inasmuch as there are more important things a Christian should do,the other 'less' important ones shouldn't be neglected either..that passage made it crystal clear..from the mouth of the divine high priest himself..that passage puts this thread to rest..

That passge does not say you and every Christian should go and tithe. Where does it say that? Please tell

The devil is very smart hence he may have pushed the Op to dedicate so much time and effort to post that long trash this early Sunday morning

Op so long as no one came to beg you for money to pay tithe I see no need for all the argument

If those that pay tithe receive no reward for it they will stop paying abi? After all their tithe no affect you.

OP you are very wrong read the word of God very well and stop deceiving children of God. You said tithing is an old testament thing? Children of God mattew 23 from vs 23 Jesus criticizing the religious leaders calling them hypocrites that they are careful to TITHE even the tiniest income but ignore the more important teaching of justice,mercy and faith. Jesus said "You should TITHE yes, but don't neglect the more important things. My dear read ur Bible very well and let it guide you .
I AM A TITHER and its working for me

Rexnegro:

You mean you still summarized this chronicle ?

Na this summary sure pass

The fact that tithes have been abused by a lot of greedy men masquerading as preachers of the gospel does not make tithing a sin..Infact in the days of the apostles, the early Christians gave more than a 10% of their properties when they met together for fellowship..so what is the grouse here? That Christians these days give 10%? According to the practices of the Christians the OP(and others of same thought) use as a template,10% isn't even enough! Ananias and his wife were struck down dead because they gave little and tried to cover it up with lies..Christ told a rich young Jewish man who wanted to be perfect to give away ALL that he had and follow him..but the lad went away disappointed.. A lot of people say they will rather give to the poor than pay tithes,this is good BUT they don't even do that! It is just a way for them to justify not parting with their money.. When you can't give 10% of your monthly earning, how then can you share half your earnings among fellow Christians and the poor just like the apostles and the early Christians did? You can't give what you don't have..

Tithe, the sweetest scam in Christianity for christians that do not understand the scriptures

osothermal:
OP you are very wrong read the word of God very well and stop deceiving children of God. You said tithing is an old testament thing? Children of God mattew 23 from vs 23 Jesus criticizing the religious leaders calling them hypocrites that they are careful to TITHE even the tiniest income but ignore the more important teaching of justice,mercy and faith. Jesus said "You should TITHE yes, but don't neglect the more important things. My dear read ur Bible very well and let it guide you .
I AM A TITHER and its working for me

First, Matthew 23:23 is not new testament. The new testament started after Christ ressurected from the dead. Maybe you never tought of that before you made your post.

And also important for you to know what tithing really is. This is Deutoronomy 14. See the instruction on tithing

22 “You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23 Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the Lord your God.

24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27 And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you.

LEGALAide:

I had to summarize it so that Nairalanders can read it quickly.

Are u sure it is summary?

Op I used to believe in all you expounded on tithing but I believe the Lord freed me from that wrong standpoint. As He proved to me that tithing is a form of acknowledging the operation of the blessing of Abraham upon our lives as Christians. Remember Jacob only promised to give God the tithe of everything God gave him after receiving the promise of blessing from God. The hullabaloo today is confusing the tithes as the source of the blessing which it is not. It is our God ordained way of saying thank you physically to God for His blessing at work on our behalf.
Thanks. Peace of our lord Jesus be upon, I pray He shines His upon all our understanding. Amen

Na so my colleague dey brag wen his car was stolen , he said "I dey pay my tithe that he will recover his car, his pastor told him so that as long as he pays his tithe regularly,he will find his car" na 4yrs be dis ,he no even see the tyre talk less of the car

Integrityfarms:
This issue has been discussed so much.

If you are a tither so be it if you are not comfortable so be it!
We remain prisoners of our conscience

You haven't done the url thing I even sent you the link for?
HAPPY SUNDAY SHAA.

sarutobie:
The fact that tithes have been abused by a lot of greedy men masquerading as preachers of the gospel does not make tithing a sin..Infact in the days of the apostles, the early Christians gave more than a 10% of their properties when they met together for fellowship..so what is the grouse here? That Christians these days give 10%? According to the practices of the Christians the OP(and others of same thought) use as a template,10% isn't even enough! Ananias and his wife were struck down dead because they gave little and tried to cover it up with lies..Christ told a rich young Jewish man who wanted to be perfect to give away ALL that he had and follow him..but the lad went away disappointed.. A lot of people say they will rather give to the poor than pay tithes,this is good BUT they don't even do that! It is just a way for them to justify not parting with their money.. When you can't give 10% of your monthly earning, how then can you share half your earnings among fellow Christians and the poor just like the apostles and the early Christians did? You can't give what you don't have..

The issue isnt about whether you should give or not. You can give all you have. Thats totally up to you. The fact is the new testament does not instruct a Christian to tithe 10% of their income. If it isnt there, it isnt there. It is that simple

And the claim that those who debunk the tithing doctrine dont give is very laughable. Some of the biggest givers I know are those who dont pay tithe. Its a lame argument

sarutobie:
The fact that tithes have been abused by a lot of greedy men masquerading as preachers of the gospel does not make tithing a sin..Infact in the days of the apostles, the early Christians gave more than a 10% of their properties when they met together for fellowship..so what is the grouse here? That Christians these days give 10%? According to the practices of the Christians the OP(and others of same thought) use as a template,10% isn't even enough! Ananias and his wife were struck down dead because they gave little and tried to cover it up with lies..Christ told a rich young Jewish man who wanted to be perfect to give away ALL that he had and follow him..but the lad went away disappointed.. A lot of people say they will rather give to the poor than pay tithes,this is good BUT they don't even do that! It is just a way for them to justify not parting with their money.. When you can't give 10% of your monthly earning, how then can you share half your earnings among fellow Christians and the poor just like the apostles and the early Christians did? You can't give what you don't have..

#Word #EndOfDiscussion... You couldn't have said it any better... Read your bible and do what it says as the Holy Spirit leads u and leave God to judge the people that twist His word to suit them and their pockets.

One more thing, tithing or not tithing won't take u to heaven.

What an interesting article for those of us who could not go to church today.

The bitter truth is that most of our pastors are feeding from the flock instead of feeding them.

Its well.

JSayin:
This tithing topic has been overflogged,overcaned,overwhipped,overkobokoed, and overwwhooped on Nairaland and every other Sunday, it will still makefront page news.

I TAYA!!!

Yet you (your pastors) never learn.
That's why it'll appear next Sunday even!
Until it sinks in properly!

snailspeed:


That passge does not say you and every Christian should go and tithe. Where does it say that? Please tell

And it didn't say we shouldn't tithe either...Christ and his apostles taught us that we should give our all, that we should share our belongings with the needy, the widows,the inmates, the sick...that was how the early Christians acted..they sold their stuffs,brought it together in their meetings and shared among each other...since you say tithing shouldn't be done,how many times have YOU kept to the examples of Christ and his followers in the new testament?

LEGALAide:

Well put then, I suggest you read the entire Old Testament too and then do OBEY ALL THE LAWS there, come back to this thread, and receive an award for that!
Until then, excuse me please!

Lol! No need to read all the old Testament for laws to obey! All one need to do is to just read mark 12 vs 30:31 and if one can oney,heavenly award is so sure, yours is worthless.



Have a good Sunday brother!

Codyt:
This particular topic is over rated. To tithe or not to tithe?
As far as I'm concerned, your opinions, in no way, should change the mindsets of people who engage in it.
Either old or new ways, it's by choice.
Colossians 3:23 says "And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and NOT to men"
The people who do(paying of tithes) for the right reasons are been blessed by God openly...

Well put.
However some men of *** threaten their members with Hell for not paying.
Well put once again.

mazidavos:
May God bless you Op...

Insha Allah

JideJamez:
Guy u dey spoil business for the pastors o..... Jet cars mansions etc

We shall get there.

BumbleDevil:


Are Pastors not going to work again? Are Pastors not running personal business? are Pastors not acquiring material properties? Are Pastors not the ones that started the slogan "MY GOD IS NOT A POOR GOD"? the list is endless my dear.

The inheritance of the priest is the offering while the inheritance of the Levites is the tithe. Remember that even the Levites pay one tenth to the temple. A Priest is forbidden to take inheritance of the Levites while the Levites are also forbidden to eat from the burnt offerings.

well understood. Let every pastors fend for themselves then. And enough of this pressure on the congregation about paying your tithe. Some pastors will even go to the level of raining curse on the people in the church too.

snailspeed:


Does your all laws also include,

1. Do not plant yaw and cassava in the same farm?

2. Do not wear a shirt of 30% polyester and 60% cotton?

Should I go on?

My brother all laws have been put to two! Read mark 12 vs 30: 31. If you can obey,then you will willingly surrender yourself to the guidance of the holySpirit. Then you will know what to do and what not to do.

sarutobie:

And it didn't say we shouldn't tithe either...Christ and his apostles taught us that we should give our all, that we should share our belongings with the needy, the widows,the inmates, the sick...that was how the early Christians acted..they sold their stuffs,brought it together in their meetings and shared among each other...since you say tithing shouldn't be done,how many times have YOU kept to the examples of Christ and his followers in the new testament?

First, you are arguing backwards my brother. The issue is simple

1. There is no instruction for us to tithe in the new testament.

2. Like you acknowlegded, there is an instruction to keep; cheerfully and willingly, not of compulsion

3. You seem to assume that because someone refuses the tithing doctrine, it means he or she does give. This is quite funny. One of the biggest givers in the world is bill gates who is not a Christian and who does not tithe. So how you connect givers to only those who pay tithes is funny. I have seen many Churches were they dont ephasize giving and they still get people giving in multimillions. People will freely give if they see you are using it for a good cause. they dont need to be coarsed

Manueleee:
Tithe is something many dont understand. Sumtimes i laf d way sum young guys give dia tithe. Sum will b gving 500 evry sunday. For me, i prefair to give it onec a month base on my salary.
Mal 3:10 is always effective to any christain dat pays his tithe. I rember wen my salary was 12k evry month my tithe should b 1200. So i d next month i made a prayer holdin my tithe. Askin God for increase of salary, so i gave 1500 as tithe. After dat tithe dat sunday, not upto 3days my salary was increased to 15k. Since dat day, i stop joking wit my tithe.

COMPLETE RUBBISH.
Christians keep deceiving themselves!
You don't give God to receive in return.
God is not a savings account!
You didn't get an increase because you tithed.
You must give not because God needs the money in order to have some money to increase!
Poor Christian beliefs.
Pathetic!

For years as a Christian I was decieved by the devil about tithing like the OP

The devil does this by making you question how the tithe is used.I used to believe it was an old testament mandate.

Even without paying tithes things were going ok for me and I was doing well and used to console myself that I am still blessed without paying tithe.....until God opened my eyes to the devil's deceit. I saw that Christ even acknowledged it's importance.

When I started paying in full obedience I could not believe the way I leapfrogged from one level to a higher one. Favour became more abundant to me beyond my comprehension . I was like wow....why did I not obey before now.

Just go ad pay ur tithe oo! Does proofs ar just too much for back-up; Ad is still 10% No increment like order tins in 9ja.

Etizz:
OP if you have a church I will love to be a member....

I do not have a church.
And I need not have.
There are so many true, Bible believing churches out there already.
Setting up new churches ain't the solution.
We have enough.
We only need God in our hearts.

1stCitizen:
Op stop trying to decieve people. Below is a verse in the new testament highlighted where Jesus acknowledges the importance of tithing.

If you don't want to tithe no one is forcing you but leave others that want to do so after all its their money and not yours.

Matthew 23:23
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

The former is about tithing the harvest from the LAND i.e. farm produce, not so
Do you think Jesus Christ (Prophet Isa to the Muslims) deliberately omitted mentioning money instead of FARM produce?
I don't think so!
Rather he was making reference to the complete, comprehensive, whole idea of tithe as established in the Old Testament for Jews.

Deuteronomy 14

The Law of the Tithe

22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. 23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, 27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

My people perish for lack of knowledge. Knowledge of the Word of God.
May the Good Lord open our eyes and give us enlightenment to do His Will- Amen
That way we do not remain WORSE than pagans/idol (man) worshippers while thinking that we are serving God.