Dee235:
Despite the so many examples from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

Dee235:
Despite the so many scripture verses from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

WiseBully:


Flood it with your posts, my business? Nope. You can see why I said earlier that it was a demeaning act of self-contempt to engage you in a rational discussion. Now you think I am insane. This shows your "impeccable" comprehension ability. You couldn't understand what I meant when I said "observe Sunday service" as against "visiting" religious section which is strictly free choice. Spread your unwashed linen all over the place, but wise people do otherwise.

ddippset:
Your problem is this; you really do think you've got the monopoly of insults. Iam good at it too o! Be warned o! You better beat it now o! Hen!

Chukzyfcb:

I don't attend christ embassy. Rhapsody is a book they share everynow & then. And its worthy to learn from other pple because no man is an island. I even quoted matthew 5 vs 45 to buttress my point but you ignored it. Its obvious I hit you hard with those facts and got you mute!

Rawblings:
As for tithe, i don't do it because pastor will pray for me. Tithing is a way of cleansing your money. It's a way of helping the church grow, sponsor missionaries and other church activities. people don't pay because they feel the pastor is getting rich while they are growing poorer. If you can look beyond what the pastor will use the money for, God will bless you beyond imagination. Don't pay your tithe because your pastor said so.. Do it according to what God said. The thing again is that this issue is over emphasized. Again don't just pay tithe and still live in sin. The reason you won't see results with your tithe is because of your sins Isaiah 59 talks about it...

Again don't pay tithe and just become lazy and be expecting 100 million from above with laziness. If you want results with your tithe, live a righteous life... I repeat the reason you don't see results with your contribution to your church is because of your sins. THANKS

Dee235:
Despite the so many scripture verses from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

Dee235:
Despite the so many scripture verses from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

Durinsday:


Emphasis #1:
Woe unto you "SCRIBES AND PHARISEES"! We are not them, we are co-heirs with Christ

Emphasis 2:
...and have omitted weightier matters of "THE LAW". We are no longer under the law but justified by faith as Christ has died for us. If we were under the law, perhaps we should be observing burning of bulls as a sacrifice unto God, an eye for an eye etc.

Christ had not died and redeemed us by then. Do you think Nicodemus continued being a pharisee after meeting Christ, the king of glory? Did he continue taking tithes etc according to the law after meeting the light of the world? Those things did not matter anymore!

Christ has asked us to give whole heartedly and not out of compulsion.

Skills10:
Many people believe that by acknowledging the Obligation of the Jews to tithe here Jesus is teaching that tithing is also obligatory for New Testament Christians. Tithing is not even the issue in Matt 23:23. Jesus was rebuking Scribes and Pharisees who were SUBJECT to the law and obligated to tithe anyway. The issue Jesus was addressing was not their tithes, but their neglect of Justice,mercy and faithfulness toward others. To practice these was more important than being sticklers for the smallest detail of tithing(Matt 23:24-33). This is what Jesus was really leading up to in Matt 23, which precludes verse 23 from being uses to teach that Jesus was sanctioning tithing for New Testament Christians.

ChoCandyDiamond:

you are shooting yourself on the foot because Jesus was accusing them of paying tithe as religious obligation while neglecting the needy and the poor which is the weightier matter of the law which he summaries as judgement,mercy and faith, by this statement paying of tithe is not important

LEGALAide:

FIRST UNDERSTAND THAT TITHING ISN'T THE ONLY WAY ONE PLANTS.
!

Durinsday:


Emphasis #1:
Woe unto you "SCRIBES AND PHARISEES"! We are not them, we are co-heirs with Christ

Emphasis 2:
...and have omitted weightier matters of "THE LAW". We are no longer under the law but justified by faith as Christ has died for us. If we were under the law, perhaps we should be observing burning of bulls as a sacrifice unto God, an eye for an eye etc.

Christ had not died and redeemed us by then. Do you think Nicodemus continued being a pharisee after meeting Christ, the king of glory? Did he continue taking tithes etc according to the law after meeting the light of the world? Those things did not matter anymore!

Christ has asked us to give whole heartedly and not out of compulsion.

fairheven:


Seriously
What kind of summary is that.?
He is saying "why should they concentrate on tithe and forget justice and love, but that it's of necessity to do justice and love without forgetting" tithe "

It's as simple as abc naa

Rawblings:
As for tithe, i don't do it because pastor will pray for me. Tithing is a way of cleansing your money. It's a way of helping the church grow, sponsor missionaries and other church activities. people don't pay because they feel the pastor is getting rich while they are growing poorer. If you can look beyond what the pastor will use the money for, God will bless you beyond imagination. Don't pay your tithe because your pastor said so.. Do it according to what God said. The thing again is that this issue is over emphasized. Again don't just pay tithe and still live in sin. The reason you won't see results with your tithe is because of your sins Isaiah 59 talks about it...

Again don't pay tithe and just become lazy and be expecting 100 million from above with laziness. If you want results with your tithe, live a righteous life... I repeat the reason you don't see results with your contribution to your church is because of your sins. THANKS

JSayin:


'Monopoly' is as foreign to an open online forum as snow is to the Kaaba.
I know damn well I do not have monopoly.
But if you choose to act as class monitor on this thread, then I do not owe you politeness.

fairheven:


Seriously
What kind of summary is that.?
He is saying "why should they concentrate on tithe and forget justice and love, but that it's of necessity to do justice and love without forgetting" tithe "

It's as simple as abc naa

fairheven:


Very funny. What you quoted does not in any way relate to what I was saying, so don't you think you need a second quote

Check again!

1stCitizen:


So you acknowledge that tithing is a way planting in anticipation of harvest....see yourself......even from a carnal perspective your lies are obvious and completely disgusting from a spiritual angle...you allow Satan to motivate you to deceive others.

Like I told you earlier....keep your tithe to yourself if your life depends on it and let others do as they please with theirs...it will not make you poorer so I wonder why you are dedicating so much time to tell others how to spend their money.

ddippset:
With a sense of humour, I only said 'you be pastor, abi op wan knock ya hussle?' that was obviously with a great sense of humour, quite easily detectable by anyone particularly one who speaks(or writes as in this case) with a perceived sense of 'intellectual superiority' to others. So what is working you up só much with my comment? that is making me act like a nairaland class monitor

1stCitizen:


So you acknowledge that tithing is a way planting in anticipation of harvest....see yourself......even from a carnal perspective your lies are obvious and completely disgusting from a spiritual angle...you allow Satan to motivate you to deceive others.

Like I told you earlier....keep your tithe to yourself if your life depends on it and let others do as they please with theirs...it will not make you poorer so I wonder why you are dedicating so much time to tell others how to spend their money.

LEGALAide:

So in your opinion, what did Jesus mean by "and not to leave the other undone"?
The "other" they left undone are from that context: law, judgment, mercy, and faith.
And not tithing!
The passage already says they pay their tithe, but they neglect important things!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

Skills10:
Many people believe that by acknowledging the Obligation of the Jews to tithe here Jesus is teaching that tithing is also obligatory for New Testament Christians. Tithing is not even the issue in Matt 23:23. Jesus was rebuking Scribes and Pharisees who were SUBJECT to the law and obligated to tithe anyway. The issue Jesus was addressing was not their tithes, but their neglect of Justice,mercy and faithfulness toward others. To practice these was more important than being sticklers for the smallest detail of tithing(Matt 23:24-33). This is what Jesus was really leading up to in Matt 23, which precludes verse 23 from being uses to teach that Jesus was sanctioning tithing for New Testament Christians.

Dee235:


Come on ladies and gentlemen, it is clear that Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees on how they loved the tithes and neglected mercy and truth. This passage that their emphasis should first be on mercy and truth and not to leave the others undone, the others there is the Tithes. Hence they should not leave the tithes undone.

But by the way, why did not remove the verse from your write up. Your write up is rich enough not to have included it.

LEGALAide:
I had to summarize it so that Nairalanders can read it quickly.

LEGALAide:

So in your opinion, what did Jesus mean by "and not to leave the other undone"?
The "other" they left undone are from that context: law, judgment, mercy, and faith.
And not tithing!
The passage already says they pay their tithe, but they neglect important things!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

LEGALAide:

Smh.
Even after explaining to you you still chose not to understand.
Abeg no mention me again o.

fairheven:


Please stop deceiving people further.

This is living bible translation.

"SORROW AWAITS YOU PHARISEES! FOR YOU ARE CAREFUL TO TITHE EVEN THE TINIEST INCOME FROM YOUR HERB GARDEN, BUT YOU IGNORE JUSTICE AND THE LOVE OF GOD." YOU SHOULD TITHE", YES!BUT DO NOT NEGLECT THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS" luke 11 :42, Matthew23:23.

Maybe you want it translated in your mother tongue

Skills10:


Pls, I want you to know that all what you have said about tithing is the truth. You are right. Christians should speak where the bible speaks and be silent where the bible is silent.

Study to show thyself approved unto God. A workman that needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2: 15.

As a matter of fact, the first council in Christianity was in Acts 15: 1 to 24, where the apostles came together to consider the matter of Gentiles obeying the law of Moses. Peter and Paul with the rest of the apostles said Christians should not keep the law of Moses.

For all those Christians who pay tithe, you are only practising Judo-Christianity. Mixing the law of Moses with Christianity.

Gal 5:4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

What this passage say is that if you seek justification for an act of righteousness from the Old testament, Christ is of effect to you.

People are lazy to study the bible, and they will justify the teachings of the so called men of God.

Heb 7 : 1 - 28 tells us that Christ was from the tribe of Judah (and not of Levi, who receive the priesthood) and there is a change in the priesthood, there is also a change of the law.

Christians should not pay tithe.
The Apostles of Christ did not pay tithe.

For those talking about Matt 23:23, as at that time, Christ was not yet Crucified on the Cross and he was addressing the Pharisees and Scribes.

Durinsday:


Emphasis #1:
Woe unto you "SCRIBES AND PHARISEES"! We are not them, we are co-heirs with Christ

Emphasis 2:
...and have omitted weightier matters of "THE LAW". We are no longer under the law but justified by faith as Christ has died for us. If we were under the law, perhaps we should be observing burning of bulls as a sacrifice unto God, an eye for an eye etc.

Christ had not died and redeemed us by then. Do you think Nicodemus continued being a pharisee after meeting Christ, the king of glory? Did he continue taking tithes etc according to the law after meeting the light of the world? Those things did not matter anymore!

Christ has asked us to give whole heartedly and not out of compulsion.

JSayin:


"Sense of humor...?"
That was far from what your post appeared to be.
Your post was clearly an attack.
Own your own words.
Don't downgrade it to now say "I was only joking"

You did not read the previous comments I made before writing that post and you hastily assumed I was annoyed with what the OP wrote as you had already automatically assumed I was a religious fanatic and the OP was 'spoiling my market'.