pappyyanky:
That is an email message from Ball state university admission department, does that really mean I shouldn't take SAT and TOEFL , and hope it will not be a problem at the embassy for not taking any of the test. CUs the should waive Toefl for Nigeria student, Nigeria been a English speaking country and the school does require SAT from international student. So regular admission is guarantee to Nigeria student not conditional one CUs they found Nigeria a English proficiency country and been part of the country the school waive Toefl 2, pls house which advice can u give ? I hope if I dont take the test it will not b a problem at the embassy.

pappyyanky:
That is an email message from Ball state university admission department, does that really mean I shouldn't take SAT and TOEFL , and hope it will not be a problem at the embassy for not taking any of the test. CUs the should waive Toefl for Nigeria student, Nigeria been a English speaking country and the school does require SAT from international student. So regular admission is guarantee to Nigeria student not conditional one CUs they found Nigeria a English proficiency country and been part of the country the school waive Toefl 2, pls house which advice can u give ? I hope if I dont take the test it will not b a problem at the embassy.

coobboy:


The reality is you should still take the SAT because when you get to school you will still be required to take a state based exam, for them to know you have the adequate skills or knowledge to be in college. You might have to take developmental classes and pay extra cash for no reason if you do not pass the exam. So the SAT would ease you from writing those exams, putting you in the place of college level or higher. For example math; when you have an SAT score that is high enough, you skip two or three math classes, and puts you in Calculus 1 straight up (But when you fail to take the SAT and you do not pass the state based exam for UG, you will have to start from the lowest form of math class).
It is also good for the embassy, if you want to be portrayed as a potential student, take at least one standardized test. It would increase your chances of getting a visa

ukemnseg:
Hello everyone. I'm new here and I'm really glad I stumbled across this forum.
I've just gone through some of the previous discussions and they've been really enlightening. Getting a US student visa from Nigeria seems to be even more difficult than getting admitted into a US school in the first place.

I have a few questions (for any one in a position to answer):

1. Does the school you're admitted to have any bearing on the success/failure of your visa application/interview. For eg. let's say I have an I-20 form from Harvard College. Would that 'guarantee' me a US student visa from Nigeria?.

2. Can anyone offer any 'specific' information on scholarships that can be applied for prior to admission to a US university (for Nigerian students). [I got 2280 on the SAT I, 770 (Math Level II) and 790 (Physics) on the SAT II].

3. Considering my 1530/1600 score on the SAT Verbal (CR+W), do I still need to take the TOEFL to impress the folks at the visa office? $180 is a lot of money and I'd rather not have my parents spend it if they don't absolutely have to. MIT and Harvard waived the TOEFL for me since I did well on the SAT Verbal, but I would still gladly take it if it would help with my visa application. I can't imagine being denied a student visa if I do get admitted to an Ivy.

4. And finally...in my application for a student visa (for undergraduate studies), does the bank statement I submit have to show funds sufficient to cover the total cost of attendance for all 4 years or for just the first year?

Thanks.

ukemnseg:
Hello everyone. I'm new here and I'm really glad I stumbled across this forum.
I've just gone through some of the previous discussions and they've been really enlightening. Getting a US student visa from Nigeria seems to be even more difficult than getting admitted into a US school in the first place.

I have a few questions (for any one in a position to answer):

1. Does the school you're admitted to have any bearing on the success/failure of your visa application/interview. For eg. let's say I have an I-20 form from Harvard College. Would that 'guarantee' me a US student visa from Nigeria?.

2. Can anyone offer any 'specific' information on scholarships that can be applied for prior to admission to a US university (for Nigerian students). [I got 2280 on the SAT I, 770 (Math Level II) and 790 (Physics) on the SAT II].

3. Considering my 1530/1600 score on the SAT Verbal (CR+W), do I still need to take the TOEFL to impress the folks at the visa office? $180 is a lot of money and I'd rather not have my parents spend it if they don't absolutely have to. MIT and Harvard waived the TOEFL for me since I did well on the SAT Verbal, but I would still gladly take it if it would help with my visa application. I can't imagine being denied a student visa if I do get admitted to an Ivy.

4. And finally...in my application for a student visa (for undergraduate studies), does the bank statement I submit have to show funds sufficient to cover the total cost of attendance for all 4 years or for just the first year?

Thanks.

ukemnseg:
Hello everyone. I'm new here and I'm really glad I stumbled across this forum.
I've just gone through some of the previous discussions and they've been really enlightening. Getting a US student visa from Nigeria seems to be even more difficult than getting admitted into a US school in the first place.

I have a few questions (for any one in a position to answer):


Thanks.

Mayflowa:


Boy! you are hot as they come. But MIT and Harvard are no joke. The competition is really high. Some indians and chinese are crazily hot. But I believe you stand a chance if few Africans applied to your course. Ivy leagues aim to diversify your class. Funding is almost guaranteed for anyone that gets admitted! If I were you I would apply to some three to five more schools. Just email the school with your score and ask them to grant you waiver as you are coming from developing country. Your teacher can support with a letter too.

YOU should try Pennsylvania, Cornell, Stanford and two mid schools like Notre dame and my school- University of Missouri. As per your question, you stand a very huge chance of getting visa with ivy leagues. They are always impressed to see ivy leagues whether they show the emotion or not. This comes with huge responsibility. They won't expect you to flop when they ask you the few questions in their mind. I do not expect you to flop as an intelligent guy. See? if you flopped, you don't deserve visa

imperiouxx:


And you guys will be saying funding are available at those kind of schools like it's easy. You forget about how extremely competitive it is to get ordinary admission, let alone funding. Harvard, I know of very well. Their admission doesn't come with any automatic funding. Harvard will tap fingers to collect their money in full from you. My wife is a graduate of Harvard University, her student loan is super high.

imperiouxx:


And you guys will be saying funding are available at those kind of schools like it's easy. You forget about how extremely competitive it is to get ordinary admission, let alone funding. Harvard, I know of very well. Their admission doesn't come with any automatic funding. Harvard will tap fingers to collect their money in full from you. My wife is a graduate of Harvard University, her student loan is super high.

pappyyanky:
people , SAT or TOEFL which one should I take ?

Mayflowa:


Boy! you are hot as they come. But MIT and Harvard are no joke. The competition is really high. Some indians and chinese are crazily hot. But I believe you stand a chance if few Africans applied to your course. Ivy leagues aim to diversify your class. Funding is almost guaranteed for anyone that gets admitted! If I were you I would apply to some three to five more schools. Just email the school with your score and ask them to grant you waiver as you are coming from developing country. Your teacher can support with a letter too.

YOU should try Pennsylvania, Cornell, Stanford and two mid schools like Notre dame and my school- University of Missouri. As per your question, you stand a very huge chance of getting visa with ivy leagues. They are always impressed to see ivy leagues whether they show the emotion or not. This comes with huge responsibility. They won't expect you to flop when they ask you the few questions in their mind. I do not expect you to flop as an intelligent guy. See? if you flopped, you don't deserve visa

bbdd:


Hello,
Apply to three ivy league schools
Three "New ivies" Stanford, Emory, Duke etc
Apply to two safety schools that will surely give you full scholarship.

Chinese and Indians will apply but guess what they have to be diverse in their admissions decisions so since you're black and you are clearly very bright, you stand a very good chance of getting in. Hopefully, other aspects of your application stand out as well.

Goodluck. It's worth the shot. Why are you thinking of a visa now? Get admission first.

imperiouxx:


And you guys will be saying funding are available at those kind of schools like it's easy. You forget about how extremely competitive it is to get ordinary admission, let alone funding. Harvard, I know of very well. Their admission doesn't come with any automatic funding. Harvard will tap fingers to collect their money in full from you. My wife is a graduate of Harvard University, her student loan is super high.

Mekurexx:
Edakun guys help me!. I' have tried to check for accommodation in California but the prices I'm seeing be like amount one can pay to buy land in VGC. how do i go about student accommodation search? and pls who is in California that can guide me

pappyyanky:
Hello house , SAT or TOEFL which one should I take , or is the two compulsory .

coobboy:

1. It does not guarantee it, but I am sure you will have a high chance of getting the visa
2. If you apply to midrange schools, you might get a full ride scholarship with your SAT score. But Ivy League, I do not know of. But that is some pretty good score man (If I had your SAT score, I would not settle for less, and would not come to America without a full ride scholarship.
3. Man I do not think you need to take TOEFL, because if Havard and MIT can waive it for you, man.... But I believe the SAT has covered the grounds of the TOEFL. people without standardized test even got their visas, talkless of you with a high SAT score. If you can defend yourself well, I do not think you can be denied
4. No just for one year.

Mayflowa:


Uniben won't confirm your transcript verification to WES until you pay a processing fee of N1100 to Zenithbank. So get back to your contact

ukemnseg:


I've taken the SAT and I've looked at some questions from the TOEFL so I'll answer based on the quality/difficulty of both tests.

Your understanding of written English must be quite good if you want to do really well on either test.

If you're reasonably proficient at math and are willing to put in a good amount of study time, then you should do the SAT (it's the more difficult test and is more highly regarded).

If you don't plan to give too much time to studying and would rather avoid math, then take the TOEFL.

The final decision is yours to make. How far are you willing to go...what do you want to achieve?

slystanley:

thanks,Mayflowa
I have paid the money they asked for and they told me the verification mail was sent on Friday, still yet, Wes status is waiting verification from institution or is it because it's weekend?

Mayflowa:


It's possible you may not get funding at the beginning. But there are tones of scholarship to apply to once in. However, you won't be deny enrolment in Harvard because of fund. Worse, you will be given loan. The endowment allows every admitted student to enrol.

I wonder why your wife is not in Nigeria. She would have paid her loan in two years. Harvard graduates are rare in Nigeria. After my PhD now, Harvard is my direction though I will be taking class in Jf Kennedy School of Government. I will need your input then.

Mayflowa:


It's possible you may not get funding at the beginning. But there are tones of scholarship to apply to once in. However, you won't be deny enrolment in Harvard because of fund. Worse, you will be given loan. The endowment allows every admitted student to enrol.

I wonder why your wife is not in Nigeria. She would have paid her loan in two years. Harvard graduates are rare in Nigeria. After my PhD now, Harvard is my direction though I will be taking class in Jf Kennedy School of Government. I will need your input then.

bbdd:


Enrollment and admission are two different things.
Let's put things into perspective, you can be admitted and told to take a $100,000 loan. Would you still enroll with a $100,000 burden on your head?
Theory about endowmentis still theory. We all know pubic schools are more generous despite having less endowment. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE YOU'LL GET FUNDING AT HARVARD ONCE YOU'RE IN. Heck it's very unlikely. Millions of Americans take huge loans to go to those schools.

Also, a degree from Harvard won't give you a green card. You still need to hustle for h1b like someone from any other school.
If you're admitted by Harvard and asked to take a loan of $100,000, do you expect a middle class family from Lagos to be unreasonable enough to do that? Just because he wants to go to Harvard?
I have friends that went to HSPH(Harvard school of public health) Their parents are very wealthy. It is not for the average guy.
Endowment or no endowment.

pappyyanky:

okay thanks ,so the Sat or the Toefl which one should I take ?

cseejhay:
pls can someone help me with materials like past exam questions and the likes to aid my preparation for SAT and TOEFL.pls help me.thank you.

cseejhay:


which is the most expensive of the two to reg for? SAT or TOEFL.

bbdd:


Enrollment and admission are two different things.
Let's put things into perspective, you can be admitted and told to take a $100,000 loan. Would you still enroll with a $100,000 burden on your head?
Theory about endowmentis still theory. We all know pubic schools are more generous despite having less endowment. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE YOU'LL GET FUNDING AT HARVARD ONCE YOU'RE IN. Heck it's very unlikely. Millions of Americans take huge loans to go to those schools.

Also, a degree from Harvard won't give you a green card. You still need to hustle for h1b like someone from any other school.
If you're admitted by Harvard and asked to take a loan of $100,000, do you expect a middle class family from Lagos to be unreasonable enough to do that? Just because he wants to go to Harvard?
I have friends that went to HSPH(Harvard school of public health) Their parents are very wealthy. It is not for the average guy.
Endowment or no endowment.

cseejhay:
pls can someone help me with materials like past exam questions and the likes to aid my preparation for SAT and TOEFL.pls help me.thank you.