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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 7:33pm On Mar 07, 2016
Ibime:


When we discuss elite AMs, we have to look at the full package. Hence they are ELITE.

Iniesta gives me more than what I need in terms in terms of controlling the nitty gritty of midfield play, but he does not give me what I need in terms of the business end.

Mata gives me what I need in terms of goals and assists but does not give me anything in the nitty gritty of midfield.

It is no secret that that is why I love Lampard and that is why I love Muller. They are my standard for an AM. They bring what I need in an AM to the table. Simples.

Aside stats, what exactly does Muller bring to the table and how is he a "full package"??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:45pm On Mar 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


Aside stats, what exactly does Muller bring to the table and how is he a "full package"??

When is Muller ever dominated in a match?

If things go sour, Muller pulls his weight and more.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 7:52pm On Mar 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


Luis Figo failed as a player - yay or nay??

Luis Figo was a midfielder in a 4-4-2. Figo and his figures are similar to other elite midfielders who played 4-4-2 in his generation like Zidane

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 7:56pm On Mar 07, 2016
Obere4u:
Mr. Can't you differentiate between being productive and being a passenger being.?

Mata is productive but a passenger while Iniesta is not productive nor a passenger......

When comparing Hazard and Nyemar with stats, same goes for Lamps and Iniesta...

#LeaveSentiment #TalkFootball

Iniesta plays behind 3 strikers, Does hazard play behind 3 strikers?


150 in 13 seasons thats an average of 12 assists perseason

Is that what you term unproductive? now tell us 5 midfielders who delivered over 10 assists per season for 6 years straight

Sone of you just jump into anything without giving it a thought of your own

thats how some were here shouting Iniesta didnt score or assist for a whole season now we ask them when and to put their money where their mouth is they fled

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:06pm On Mar 07, 2016
Ibime:


When we discuss elite AMs, we have to look at the full package. Hence they are ELITE.

Iniesta gives me more than what I need in terms in terms of controlling the nitty gritty of midfield play, but he does not give me what I need in terms of the business end.

Mata gives me what I need in terms of goals and assists but does not give me anything in the nitty gritty of midfield.

It is no secret that that is why I love Lampard and that is why I love Muller. They are my standard for an AM. They bring what I need in an AM to the table. Simples.

Well there's a reason why you're not a championship winning manager

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:07pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


You said Iniesta had no goal and no assist in 2014/15

I am asking you to stake $1000 and let me show you that you are wrong as usual

Deal or no deal
these are things should know if actually know the two players. Hazard is a better passer of the ball, he keeps the ball better, he is more brilliant in creating something with the ball especially when playing against defensive teams(that is, creating chances.) Hazard is also a better dribbler.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 8:08pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Luis Figo was a midfielder in a 4-4-2. Figo and his figures are similar to other elite midfielders who played 4-4-2 in his generation like Zidane

Lailai...

Figo only went to MF during his spell at Inter - he was primarily an attacking winger during his prime!

I ask again - did Figo fail as a player? ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:09pm On Mar 07, 2016
Greatihex:
these are things should know if actually know the two players. Hazard is a better passer of the ball, he keeps the ball better, he is more brilliant in creating something with the ball especially when playing against defensive teams(that is, creating chances.) Hazard is also a better dribbler.

Kids, don't do drugs

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 8:10pm On Mar 07, 2016
Before the final against Manchester United in the UCL final, this was what the legendry SirAlex Ferguson said.
"I'm not obsessed with Messi, Iniesta is the danger. He's
fantastic. He makes the team work. The way he finds
passes, his movement and ability to create space is
incredible. He's so important for Barcelona."
And after the match, Waney Rooney quipped "Iniesta is the best player in the world"
And for the innocent ones who really don't know much about the don, just go to you tube and check Iniesta's performance in the latest el classico. Check his work rate, assist and goal and tell me the definition of vision and productivity. For Madrid fans to applaud a Barca player (their eternal enemy), there must be something special about him. Iniesta was the 1st player after Maradona in 1983 and Ronaldinho in 2005 to be applauded by Madrid fans after orchestrating their demolition.
Everyone has his favourites anytime any day. Down grading a player who has won it all all out of hatred is the height of hypocrisy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:10pm On Mar 07, 2016
In a bid to win arguements or make a point I see loads of people displaying heavy double standards but,wetin concern me? When person claim say fernadud score 38goals for world cup just to rubbish Rooney..... then to further buttress same point said, ronaldos 60plus goals compared to Suarez 25goals last season is inferior because saurez sabi draw map of Nigeria pass then I give up lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 8:14pm On Mar 07, 2016
diggz:
In a bid to win arguements or make a point I see loads of people displaying heavy double standards


As In ehn. ..

The double standards for the section has to be the worst on NL!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 8:19pm On Mar 07, 2016
diggz:
In a bid to win arguements or make a point I see loads of people displaying heavy double standards but,wetin concern me? When person claim say fernadud score 38goals for world cup just to rubbish Rooney..... then to further buttress same point said, ronaldos 60plus goals compared to Suarez 25goals last season is inferior because saurez sabi draw map of Nigeria pass then I give up lipsrsealed

Who said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? It's obvious you didn't get the point and you could have asked for clarification rather than concluding.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:25pm On Mar 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


As In ehn. ..

The double standards for the section has to be the worst on NL!!

Sotey person use fernandud use buttress point! I mean fernandud torress aka shekpe keeper lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 8:34pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Iniesta plays behind 3 strikers, Does hazard play behind 3 strikers?

Prove to us that Iniesta was not productive despite dropping over 150 assists for Barcelona

150 in 13 seasons thats an average of 12 assists perseason

Is that what you term unproductive? now tell us 5 midfielders who delivered over 10 assists per season for 6 years straight

Sone of you just jump into anything without giving it a thought of your own

thats how some were here shouting Iniesta didnt score or assist for a whole season now we ask them when and to put their money where their mouth is they fled

Where did Lamp play? Infront of the 3 strikes eeh kwa?... So stats can be used for hazard and not for Iniesta?....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 8:37pm On Mar 07, 2016
Ibime:


When is Muller ever dominated in a match?

If things go sour, Muller pulls his weight and more.

Haba Ibime - what is this biko??

Aside his goals (and maybe assists ), when has Muller ever "dominated" a match??

Muller - "perfect" package of an AM??

Even Dayo no go follow you bandy this kinda argument.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:40pm On Mar 07, 2016
sebod:

Who said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? It's obvious you didn't get the point and you could have asked for clarification rather than concluding.


Oh! I get your point clearly.....but,I ain't buying it sorry.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 8:45pm On Mar 07, 2016
diggz:



Oh! I get your point clearly.....but,I ain't buying it sorry.
That's good. Then you have to change the part that said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup. There's a difference between scoring 38 goals for Spain and scoring 38 goals in world cup. People don't have to be misinformed.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:52pm On Mar 07, 2016
Nihilist:


Kids, don't do drugs
i quoted the wrong person. I wanted to quote dmcdad.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:58pm On Mar 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


Haba Ibime - what is this biko??

Aside his goals (and maybe assists ), when has Muller ever "dominated" a match??

Muller - "perfect" package of an AM??

Even Dayo no go follow you bandy this kinda argument.

E be like say you no get eye.

When has Muller ever been dominated?

I ask you question, you dey ask me question back.

Muller is always in every fight. If you did not know for example, Muller covered the most ground in the World Cup.

You will die and go to heaven before you see Mullers midfield being pushed back and he won't roll up his sleeves, get involved and be brave on the ball. Muller is comfortable in every scenario.

You think say he be passenger like your boy Mata?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 9:01pm On Mar 07, 2016
Nihilist:

Kids, don't do drugs
Thanks for giving him that advise. He needs it. Imagine!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 9:04pm On Mar 07, 2016
sebod:

Before the final against Manchester United in the UCL final, this was what the legendry SirAlex Ferguson said.
"I'm not obsessed with Messi, Iniesta is the danger. He's
fantastic. He makes the team work. The way he finds
passes, his movement and ability to create space is
incredible. He's so important for Barcelona."
And after the match, Waney Rooney quipped "Iniesta is the best player in the world"
And for the innocent ones who really don't know much about the don, just go to you tube and check Iniesta's performance in the latest el classico. Check his work rate, assist and goal and tell me the definition of vision and productivity. For Madrid fans to applaud a Barca player (their eternal enemy), there must be something special about him. Iniesta was the 1st player after Maradona in 1983 and Ronaldinho in 2005 to be applauded by Madrid fans after orchestrating their demolition.
Everyone has his favourites anytime any day. Down grading a player who has won it all all out of hatred is the height of hypocrisy.
Well said bruv. But walai you get time sha. You dey try oooooo. Na mainly waste of time.

Even god-Messi never get a standing ovation for Bernabéu, not even Cristiano, albeit Modric was once given that honour. Yet, the illusionista is just a passenger / an unproductive player.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 9:07pm On Mar 07, 2016
sebod:

Who said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? It's obvious you didn't get the point and you could have asked for clarification rather than concluding.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 9:09pm On Mar 07, 2016
dmcdad:

Well said bruv. But walai you get time sha. You dey try oooooo. Na mainly waste of time.

Even god-Messi never get a standing ovation for Bernabéu, not even Cristiano, albeit Modric was once given that honour. Yet, the illusionista is just a passenger / an unproductive player.
You know I hardly get involved on issues like this. But, so many people have been misinformed by all these campaign of hatred and one has to remind them of some certain facts. Imagine someone saying I said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? What a funny world with so many funny people grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:14pm On Mar 07, 2016
dmcdad:

Well said bruv. But walai you get time sha. You dey try oooooo. Na mainly waste of time.

Even god-Messi never get a standing ovation for Bernabéu, not even Cristiano, albeit Modric was once given that honour. Yet, the illusionista is just a passenger / an unproductive player.

Its what it is. When one useless ramuzaki would be saying hazard was useless, waste of space, last season . all you barca mumus would be buttressing it with stats and senseless memes , now you are served your own dose , you are crying foul. I will just be watching. The day you tell me rodriguez didnt deserve his la liga award last season i will declare fatwa on that your yeye thread. angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:25pm On Mar 07, 2016
airmark:


Its what it is. When one useless ramuzaki would be saying hazard was useless, waste of space, last season . all you barca mumus would be buttressing it with stats and senseless memes , now you are served your own dose , you are crying foul. I will just be watching. The day you tell me rodriguez didnt deserve his la liga award last season i will declare fatwa on that your yeye thread. angry
Mullah Airmark has spoken grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:34pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Iniesta plays behind 3 strikers, Does hazard play behind 3 strikers?

Prove to us that Iniesta was not productive despite dropping over 150 assists for Barcelona

150 in 13 seasons thats an average of 12 assists perseason

Is that what you term unproductive? now tell us 5 midfielders who delivered over 10 assists per season for 6 years straight

Sone of you just jump into anything without giving it a thought of your own

thats how some were here shouting Iniesta didnt score or assist for a whole season now we ask them when and to put their money where their mouth is they fled
No Hazard play behind 1 striker. Remember Chelsea formation is 4-2-3-1. I.e, they are using five midfielders and 1 striker.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 9:34pm On Mar 07, 2016
Obere4u:


Where did Lamp play? Infront of the 3 strikes eeh kwa?... So stats can be used for hazard and not for Iniesta?....

Tell us the 3 strikers who played ahead of lampard for chelsea between 2002 and 2014
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:35pm On Mar 07, 2016
Nihilist:

Mullah Airmark has spoken grin

cheesy salam alikum mutawa. I be reverend oo. I cant hurt a fly but can use hammer to dismember roaches. Away from this iniesta stuff, Terry wont play psg, iva's moments of sluggishness is scary, baba rahman is showing why hes not reliable. Na God's hands chelsea dey .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 9:37pm On Mar 07, 2016
airmark:


Its what it is. When one useless ramuzaki would be saying hazard was useless, waste of space, last season . all you barca mumus would be buttressing it with stats and senseless memes , now you are served your own dose , you are crying foul. I will just be watching. The day you tell me rodriguez didnt deserve his la liga award last season i will declare fatwa on that your yeye thread. angry

Your foolishness is legendary

Iniesta has 3 strikers ahead of him. tell us the 3 strikers hazard has ahead of him

Iniesta has dominated a CL final, Euro final, World cup final. Tell us about the 2 left legged Hidden pius Ikedia
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 9:41pm On Mar 07, 2016
hensben:
No Hazard play behind 1 striker. Remember Chelsea formation is 4-2-3-1. I.e, they are using five midfielders and 1 striker.

So how is someone who plays behind 3 strikers equal to someone who plays behind one striker?

Thats why its foolish to say Iniesta and Hazard play the same role. In the role Hazard plays he is much closer to opposition goal than Iniesta

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 9:42pm On Mar 07, 2016
Greatihex:
these are things should know if actually know the two players. Hazard is a better passer of the ball, he keeps the ball better, he is more brilliant in creating something with the ball especially when playing against defensive teams(that is, creating chances.) Hazard is also a better dribbler.

Like you were advised, Stay off drugs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:46pm On Mar 07, 2016
Greatihex:
these are things should know if actually know the two players. Hazard is a better passer of the ball, he keeps the ball better, he is more brilliant in creating something with the ball especially when playing against defensive teams(that is, creating chances.) Hazard is also a better dribbler.
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