girlvyn:
No Tithing for Christians.
At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death on the torture stake. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14) It is true that Levitical priests continued serving at the temple in Jerusalem until it was destroyed in 70 C.E., but Christians from and after 33 C.E. became part of a new spiritual priesthood that was not supported by tithes.—Ro 6:14; Heb 7:12; 1Pe 2:9.
As Christians, they were encouraged to give support to the Christian ministry both by their own ministerial activity and by material contributions. Instead of giving fixed, specified amounts to defray congregational expenses, they were to contribute “according to what a person has,” giving “as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” (2Co 8:12; 9:7) They were encouraged to follow the principle: “Let the older men who preside in a fine way be reckoned worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching. For the scripture says: ‘You must not muzzle a bull when it threshes out the grain’; also: ‘The workman is worthy of his wages.’” (1Ti 5:17, 18) However, the apostle Paul set an example in seeking to avoid bringing an undue financial burden on the congregation.—Ac 18:3; 1Th 2:9.

Ken4Christ:


Yes, it is true that when you pay more than 10%, it is no longer tithe. But that is what should be encouraged. We are not practicing the Law of Moses because we are not under the law. But how many people are really willing to give more than 10%? That is why I think most Pastors just decide to stick with the expected minimum which is 10%. Remember, God loves a cheerful giver. The bible encourages us to sow bountifully. Anything less than 10% in my opinion is not a bountiful giving. Government of many nations collect tax as high as 40% of their income to build and maintain infrastructures and I have never heard about workers protesting or anyone attacking these governments. Why should we be attacking 10% that people give to build his church that is giving life to a dying world?
No one will count you a sinner if you do not tithe but you will be seen as one if you do not give a proportionate amount of your income to God which should not be less than 10%. It is commonsense. If the saints of old were require to give 10% of their increase to sustain the workers in the church and other logistics purpose, why should the new creation in Christ do less especially when we know the importance of money to the spread of the gospel?

Eronmosele:

Thank you Ken for taking out time to write. I read every word in your response and I respect your position. However I disagree with you on some counts. It is quite obvious that what is encouraged from reading the new testament is that the believer is expected to give willingly as he has so proposed in his heart to give. Throughout the new testament there is absolutely no stipulation with respect to proportion that predetermines how much a believer is to give. What is see is a conflict. The new testament believer bound by strings which proceed from the law of Moses or from the old covenant. It has become the major motivation for breakouts and new church founding and member poaching prevalent in our setting which I am sure you can attest to. For a long time, I had reasoned just like you do on the need for money to spread the gospel but for lack of a scriptural basis for this statement, I have long discarded the notion. If the templates we are following for church planting are such as we saw in the new testament, then I think we might have exaggerated the relevance of money in spreading the gospel. Can you in all good conscience say that the tithe you pay is for propagating the gospel? or is it rather for the procurement of advanced air conditioning systems to cool our auditoriums where we sit in relaxation while souls are perishing with wanton abandon? is it not the money that is used to fund the extravagant lifestyle of the people who are supposed to be gospel bearers, erroneously demonstrating to the world that Christianity is as frivolous as materialism and financial gain. we are continuously being conditioned to set our affection on the things of this world contrary to the expectation of scripture. What is even more suspicious about the practice of tithing is the fact that it is a recent practice introduced as recently as in the 18th century. The early Christians did not tithe. I give and participate in church missions but I don't tithe because I am unable to see where in scripture I am in grace required to do so. I cannot be in law and grace at the same time. I give freely and willingly.

LEGALAide:

...following

Eronmosele:

I'm sorry LEGALAide, but I like to be as blunt as blunt can be. My nature is to be easily irritated at unnecessary ambiguity. I am not obstinate, if it were possible for anyone to open the scriptures, correctly divided, and explain to me in the right context that God requires me to tithe then I would by no means do so. But let me assure you that up till this point no one has been able to without very despicable manipulations and misinterpretation of scripture. Time will fail me to go through some of these misconceptions I have come across. Believe me, they are many!
Have a great day LEGALAide.

LEGALAide:

obontami:



Are you an atheist ??

LEGALAide:

DEFINE AN ATHEIST.
PERHAPS MY POST BROKE DOWN YOUR IRRESPONSIBLE AND IRRATIONAL SUB-CHRISTIAN BELIEF!
YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH AN ASININE QUESTION!
BEAT IT DUDE!
SOMEONE THAT HAS "toto just dey hungry me to fccck" AS HIS SIGNATURE IS ON NAIRALAND, TALKING FROM BEHIND HIS HEAD

ChoCandyDiamond:

GOD is not demanding for money from anybody in return for blessing,do good things,help the needy and the poor,pay tithe if it is good for you,God blesses everyone,some atheist are milloniers,God causes rain to fall for everybody,that someone is poor is not because he not paying tithe,the greedy people are the richest people on earth e.g politicians,ritualist,cultists,armed robbers,corrupt business men etc, modern Christians like to see wealth as a sign of blessing from God,but Jesus ask us to build our wealth in heaven where maggot will not devour it, the wealth and riches of this world is for a while and not a sign of a blessing from God,anybody can be rich be it Christian,Muslim,pagan,Atheist etc

obontami:



Are you an atheist ??

Dee235:


Come on brother you wrote a lovely article. We are just trying to help you put the verses you missed out. And you should not shy away from an article you originated. Stay true to it.

And it is never weakness to admit when you are wrong.

success10:


PLS READ


DEUTERONOMY 14 V 22-29

Manueleee:
Tithe is something many dont understand. Sumtimes i laf d way sum young guys give dia tithe. Sum will b gving 500 evry sunday. For me, i prefair to give it onec a month base on my salary.
Mal 3:10 is always effective to any christain dat pays his tithe. I rember wen my salary was 12k evry month my tithe should b 1200. So i d next month i made a prayer holdin my tithe. Askin God for increase of salary, so i gave 1500 as tithe. After dat tithe dat sunday, not upto 3days my salary was increased to 15k. Since dat day, i stop joking wit my tithe.

kennycanny:



Try pay 15k in faith this month
And let us know when you salary increase to 150k

Dee235:
Despite the so many scripture verses from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

For Christ is the end of the law to everyone who believes.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law.

But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.

But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

openmine:


Jesus never disputed the existence or relevance of tithe just d same way he didn't dispute animal sacrifices or other laws that were in existence..And that was because jesus was still leaving under the law....

Christ came to fulfill or accomplish the purpose of the mosaic law in order for us to be free from the curse and dictates of the law...

Thats why Christ said in Matthew 5:17-18,



dats y Romans 10:4 states that;



Galatians 3:21-26 states dat....


Tithe and other laws of moses like animal sacrifices are no longer practiced in the new covenant where christ is the high priest!

kennycanny:



Try pay 15k in faith this month . And let us know when you salary increase to 150k

Manueleee:
Why will you know? Is bw me and my God. And for d mata of fact, i collect more dan 15k evry month.

LEGALAide:

AND DOES THAT VERSE SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT?

Manueleee:
Why will you know? Is bw me and my God. And for d mata of fact, i collect more dan 15k evry month.

kennycanny:

I like you to share it to encourage others.

After all , you told us when you were receiving 12k

u used faith to pay 1500 tithe and your salary

was increase to 15k.

kennycanny:



I like you to share it to encourage others.
After all , you told us when you were receiving 12k u used faith to pay 1500 tithe and your salary was increase to 15k.

elantraceey:
Abraham paid tithe generations before Moses and the law came in Genesis 14:20 and Paul repeated it in Hebrew 7. Just because it wasn't written that the apostles paid tithe in the Bible doesn't mean they didn't or God told them not to.

Come to think of it, why is it that don't you guys also stop paying offerings too since they were both mentioned in Mal 3?

Paying tithe is Gods own instruction, he even wanted Adam and Eve to pay tithe of just one tree and they still ate it , there are some spiritual principles you shouldn't just break for your own good, you can't have an intimate relationship with the holy spirit and he will tell you not to pay tithe , never.


But in all things all that matters is your motive , pay with the wrong heart/ motive and you'll just be wasting time.

Paying tithe is Gods own instruction, he even wanted Adam and Eve to pay tithe of just one tree and they still ate it , there are some spiritual principles you shouldn't just break for your own good, you can't have an intimate relationship with the holy spirit and he will tell you not to pay tithe , never.

But in all things all that matters is your motive , pay with the wrong heart/ motive and you'll just be wasting time.

Tallesty1:
Tithing is a christianized Yahoo Yahoo business. Simple.


A pastor who owns lands, schools and fleet of cars will ask someone earning below the minimum wage to bring 10% of his salary so that God will bless him and the Educated idiot will do it.

If eventually he gets salary increase he will say it is because he tithed, how about none tithers and unbelievers that are most times the boss?

Jesus is now the high priest and where there's a change in priesthood, there's equally a change in the law. The law of tithing passed away when the law of feeding the hungry, the poor, helping the needy, widows etc was established.

I don't serve a broke god that needs to invest 10% of my money in what I don't even know and then give me whatever he gains.

I serve a living God who meets all my needs according his riches in glory by Christ.

Chukazu:


your own definition of new testament

your own definition of new testament

When the time came to completion, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.

LEGALAide:

...following

fairheven:


I asked you a question that you haven't been able to answer.

If you say Christ was referring to pharisees alone and that such doesn't apply to Christians, that also means that every other things Christ said to the pharisees cannot and wil not apply to us right?

That simply means that if christ said to the pharisees not to commit SIN ;that automatically excludes us,since we are not pharisees but Christians.?

That means we can go ahead and commit sin?
Please do reply

Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well. For the one of whom these things are spoken belonged to another tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
This becomes even more evident when another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek, who has become a priest, not on the basis of a legal requirement concerning bodily descent, but by the power of an indestructible life. For it is witnessed of him,
“You are a priest forever,
after the order of Melchizedek.”
For on the one hand, a former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness (for the law made nothing perfect); but on the other hand, a better hope is introduced, through which we draw near to God.

Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

openmine:



Bro let me help u....
consider dese scriptures....Hebrews 7:11-19



Ephesians 2:11-16


Also consider Galatians 3:


Now that these scriptures have established that believers are no longer subject or under the control of the mosaic law,let consider your question...since the law has been annulled and done away with including tithes,does that open a path for us to commit sin....? Absolutely not...
The intent of God was for believers to be imitator or better still be like jesus christ in terms of his attributes and charisma....in other words,believers sud emulate the virtues of christ which was given to us tru the gift of salvation the very day we accepted christ as our lord and personal saviour.....

So how do we know the virtues of jesus christ?

Galatians 5:22-26


Romans 13:8-10


We as believers must take up the very nature of Jesus Christ.....NOT to observe the laws of Moses.....that are obsolete and imperfect...
but if you seek to observe just one part of the law of Moses which is the payment of tithe,then simply do the rest of the laws of moses instead of observing Just one of them......Galatians 5:3

I will stop here...if you have any questions...i will gladly reply...God bless You!