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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 9:50pm On Mar 07, 2016
sebod:

You know I hardly get involved on issues like this. But, so many people have been misinformed by all these campaign of hatred and one has to remind them of some certain facts. Imagine someone saying I said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? What a funny world with so many funny people grin grin grin
Bruv, you need not look further than the glaring fact that their club is at its lowest ebb for years now, hence the frustration and misinterpretation of facts.

Na siddon look I dey. The same people crying foul about hypocrisy are the chief hypocrites themselves. When it comes to Lampard vs Zidane or Xavi, then stats doesn't count. But it when it involves Iniesta, then stats come into play. And no one should tell me about formations blah blah blah because at the end of the day, when your stats are put up, no one will include the formation you played in alongside the stats. If they put up Messi's stats, no one would include how he played in a 4-3-3 formation.

Imagine someone saying Hazard is a better passer than Neymar. I mean, how is that person still alive? Some people should just be shot! Hazard with his schoolboy-inspired dribbles a better dribbler than Neymar. Hazard is like JJ Okocha and Neymar like the great Ronaldinho in terms of dribbling. And of course everyone knows what it means. It's not about making dribbles with no vision or end products. The aim is to make a dribble with a view to either scoring or assisting a teammate in scoring.

There is nothing Hazard does that Neymar doesn't do better. Then Neymar has tons of goals and assists to spice things up. And if someone wants us to lay those (goals+assists) aside, then that's fine. We will have to bring in trophies won. Both personal and team trophies won. If we have to include international football to it then it gets worse for Hazard. Or do we have to highlight their big-game performances? Especially in finals?

Abeg which criteria remain sef?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:51pm On Mar 07, 2016
dmcdad:

Thanks for giving him that advise. He needs it. Imagine!
Hazard is a better dribbler.... Gbam
Hazard is better at creating chances...Gbam....Hazard is having his worst season yet I can bet he has created more than Iniesta
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 9:56pm On Mar 07, 2016
Dadehmola:


Lailai...

Figo only went to MF during his spell at Inter - he was primarily an attacking winger during his prime!

I ask again - did Figo fail as a player? ?

A winger is a midfielder in a 4-4-2 Figo stats for players like Figo would be similar to other wingers in his era who played as Wingers
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:07pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Iniesta has 3 strikers ahead of him.

Tell us about the 2 left legged Hidden pius Ikedia

Though i would nt call iniesta unproductive, but this excuse of iniesta having 3 strikers ahead of him for not scoring is stvpid at its best. Is he the first CB that would be having 3 strikers ahead of him? I saw that you were asking who were the 3 strikers playing ahead of lampard from 2002 to 2013 or so. Where in TX are you taking those stuffs making you to ask foolish questions nowadays? When you were in that police country you were not this silly. As regards hazard go and ask ribery or your boatank who was hiding when pius ikedia was about to screw your keeper. Neuer can give you details how great hazard was and how foolish boatank was.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 10:07pm On Mar 07, 2016
bigkesh:

Hazard is a better dribbler.... Gbam
Hazard is better at creating chances...Gbam....Hazard is having his worst season yet I can bet he has created more than Iniesta

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 10:08pm On Mar 07, 2016
bigkesh:

Hazard is a better dribbler.... Gbam
Hazard is better at creating chances...Gbam....Hazard is having his worst season yet I can bet he has created more than Iniesta

What an insult! I'll rather have Munir than Hidden Ikebe in my team this season because

Munir has scored, assisted and created better chances and goals this season than Hazard.

This is a fact
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:22pm On Mar 07, 2016
dmcdad:
It's not about making dribbles with no vision or end products. The aim is to make a dribble with a view to either scoring or assisting a teammate in scoring.

I could swear you were talking about Iniesta here rather than Hazard.

I mean someone told us his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men, not to score or assist.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 10:29pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Tell us the 3 strikers who played ahead of lampard for chelsea between 2002 and 2014

So now is how many strikes that played infront of Lamp? Now have Lamp EVER played as a striker?..... With your answer, compare him to Iniesta and draw your conclusion
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 10:45pm On Mar 07, 2016
airmark:


Though i would nt call iniesta unproductive, but this excuse of iniesta having 3 strikers ahead of him for not scoring is stvpid at its best. Is he the first CB that would be having 3 strikers ahead of him? I saw that you were asking who were the 3 strikers playing ahead of lampard from 2002 to 2013 or so. Where in TX are you taking those stuffs making you to ask foolish questions nowadays? When you were in that police country you were not this silly. As regards hazard go and ask ribery or your boatank who was hiding when pius ikedia was about to screw your keeper. Neuer can give you details how great hazard was and how foolish boatank was.


This is an example of why you are known as the most foolish poster on this forum
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 10:46pm On Mar 07, 2016
Obere4u:


So now is how many strikes that played infront of Lamp? Now have Lamp EVER played as a striker?..... With your answer, compare him to Iniesta and draw your conclusion

Iniesta has 3 strikers playing in front of him most times at Barca who were responsible for scoring

Who were the 3 scorers ahead of Lampard between 2003 to 2014
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:51pm On Mar 07, 2016
[quote author=dmcdad post=43570956][/quote]
Are you kidding me??
Hazard vs Iniesta is the argument, why Neymar
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by incredible70(m): 10:55pm On Mar 07, 2016
Una get time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 10:59pm On Mar 07, 2016
bigkesh:

Are you kidding me??
Hazard vs Iniesta is the argument, why Neymar

Iniesta plays as a CM, Hazard plays as a Lwinger

Iniesta has 3 strikers ahead of him and isnt responsible for scoring

Iniesta has been MOTM in a CL final, In a World cup final, In a Euro final

Tell us about Azadus
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:11pm On Mar 07, 2016
For the past 2-3 days now, I have been reading a lot of rubbish from some respected people and a lot of foolish people..

Make PSG come abeg, Make I meet Barcelona for Quarter final..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:13pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


So how is someone who plays behind 3 strikers equal to someone who plays behind one striker?

Thats why its foolish to say Iniesta and Hazard play the same role. In the role Hazard plays he is much closer to opposition goal than Iniesta
reason hazard scored 14 goals and assisted 13 last season. As a LMF him do well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 11:15pm On Mar 07, 2016
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 11:16pm On Mar 07, 2016
hensben:
reason hazard scored 14 goals and assisted 13 last season. As a LMF him do well.

With that stat last season he did well I only had problems when you his fans started comparing him to wayy better players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:16pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Iniesta has 3 strikers playing in front of him most times at Barca who were responsible for scoring

Who were the 3 scorers ahead of Lampard between 2003 to 2014
How many assist did iniesta give to the three attackers since they are the one scoring.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 11:17pm On Mar 07, 2016
diggz:
In a bid to win arguements or make a point I see loads of people displaying heavy double standards but,wetin concern me? When person claim say fernadud score 38goals for world cup just to rubbish Rooney..... then to further buttress same point said, ronaldos 60plus goals compared to Suarez 25goals last season is inferior because saurez sabi draw map of Nigeria pass then I give up lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 11:17pm On Mar 07, 2016
hensben:
How many assist did iniesta give to the three attackers since they are the one scoring.

Over 150 assists for barca meaning he was averaging double digits every season for the past 13 yrs from a CM position
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:21pm On Mar 07, 2016
Ibime:


I could swear you were talking about Iniesta here rather than Hazard.

I mean someone told us his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men, not to score or assist.
dmcdad and co always shoot their foot by themselves. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:22pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Over 150 assists for barca meaning he was averaging double digits every season for the past 13 yrs from a CM position
Him try.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:27pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Over 150 assists for barca meaning he was averaging double digits every season for the past 13 yrs from a CM position

Why is it that he has only 1 assist this season in all competitions?

With over 85 goals scored between the World best football trio (Messi, Neymar, Messi) in all club competitions this season, why does Iniesta have only 1 assist to contribute to their course.?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 11:27pm On Mar 07, 2016
Ibime:


I could swear you were talking about Iniesta here rather than Hazard.

I mean someone told us his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men, not to score or assist.

150 assists over 13 seasons is an average of double digits per season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:29pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


With that stat last season he did well I only had problems when you his fans started comparing him to wayy better players
which Chelsea fan compare hazard to messi or cr7 huh was it not zidane that was describing hazard's ability then further describe his swag with the ball as that of cr7 and his dribbling skills as that of Messi. Mou said last season, he preferred what hazard did for his team than what cr7 did for Madrid because trophies matters to him than individual award.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 11:29pm On Mar 07, 2016
Bimffo:


Why is it that he has only 1 assist this season in all competitions?

With over 85 goals scored between the World best football trio (Messi, Neymar, Messi) in all club competitions this season, why does Iniesta have only 1 assist to contribute to their course.?

Iniesta is no longer in his prime. He is already over 30. When he was in his prime he was delivering top notch performances season after season most seasons he was delivering double digit assists for Barcelona

There's a reason he has over 150 assists in 13 seasons

Its like asking why Schweinsteieger has 1 assist all season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 11:31pm On Mar 07, 2016
hensben:
which Chelsea fan compare hazard to messi or cr7 huh was it not zidane that was describing hazard's ability then further describe his swag with the ball as that of cr7 and his dribbling skills as that of Messi. Mou said last season, he preferred what hazard did for his team than what cr7 did for Madrid because trophies matters to him than individual award.

You and several fans here compared hazard to neymar.

Mourinho compared him to Ronaldo

When actually hazard is several rungs below those people

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:39pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot:


Iniesta is no longer in his prime. He is already over 30. When he was in his prime he was delivering top notch performances season after season

There's a reason he has over 150 assists in 13 seasons


Dayo, I will shift my eyes from the outrageous assists number you are posting for iniesta just to win an argument!


Lol. 150 assists for Barcelona and Spain? grin

Maybe in Charity games sha. grin

Please Iniesta does not have Up to 70 assists for both Barca and Spain..

And please let's know the meaning of Assists!

Thank You.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:41pm On Mar 07, 2016
sleekdot post=4357292p2:


You and several fans here compared hazard to neymar.

Mourinho compared him to Ronaldo

When actually hazard is several rungs below those people
In my post you quoted did you see Neymar there huh. Who is Neymar huh is it the same guy that was spoon fed by messi last season after failing to show up in his first season comparing his signing fee.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:43pm On Mar 07, 2016
Please Iniesta stats of All time is


45 goals and 65 assists (Passes that led to goals)

We don't have to lie to win an argument.

Some of Us are just here to read and learn.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:47pm On Mar 07, 2016
Or please am I missing the meaning of Assist here


Cc: Airmark, Sleekdot, Ibime, Nihilist, hensben, Bigkesh, FBS, all of Una.

Am I missing the meaning of assist here?

Because if I go with my meaning of assist, Andres Iniesta Lujan does not have Up to 70 assist in all competition for both country and Club.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 11:49pm On Mar 07, 2016
150 assists for Iniesta?

Chaiii. and a lot of people actually agreed to this number without verifying.

I am disappointed!

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