Tval:
I know how this Bimffo and Raumdeuter's argument is going to end.
Criteria for giving assists vary according to football governing bodies and websites.

We know Assists are final passes that end as a goal.

We all play Fantasy football.

And if Dayo say Hazard had 4 Assists this season, we know he means 4 final passes that led to goals..

Weyrey oni jibiti.

sleekdot:


The deal has been made. So let me prove it quickly. Payment arrangement would be made tomorrow when nihilist comes online

Oya Prove am o. And lemme disprove You quick quick!

Iniesta assists

[size=50pt]ASSIST IS THE FINAL PASS THAT LEADS TO A GOAL. [/size]

No one should come and say rubbish here.

In Fela's Voice: Teacher no teach me Nonsense.

Where is my money

No one would back out of this

We should have adopted this long ago so we can avoid long argument

Like they say talk is cheap

sleekdot:
Iniesta assists

I know that's the foolish thing You will bring Out!!!

Please football gurus, we need Your help here!!! I wish I could wake everyone Up today.

Eledumare punish you once again.

sleekdot:
Where is my money

Niggæ, Where is my Money and Forget it! You are not backing Out too!!!!!

Onijibiti!

Bimffo:



I know that's the foolish thing You will bring Out!!!

Please football gurus, we need Your help here!!! I wish I could wake everyone Up today.

Eledumare punish you once again.

Why do you feel the need to curse? Is that a way of deflecting attention? have i cursed you since we started?

Bring your stats plus the website you got it from not some water color site

sleekdot:

Iniesta plays as a CM, Hazard plays as a Lwinger
Iniesta has 3 strikers ahead of him and isnt responsible for scoring
Iniesta has been MOTM in a CL final, In a World cup final, In a Euro final
Tell us about Azadus

The Central midfield is not just a position but an area of the pitch. When you tag Iniesta a CM, be sure to tell if he's operating as a DM, a box-to-box midfielder or an AM.

That said, on paper Iniesta is unproductive but every seasoned footie pundit knows that is hardly true.

The ninja is more of an orchestra conductor - engine room, one shouldn't expect him to be posting figures anyhow.

sleekdot:


Why do you feel the need to curse? Is that a way of deflecting attention? have i cursed you since we started?

Bring your stats plus the website you got it from not some water color site

Did you Bring Out the site You brought it from. Please give Us the Link, and I will also give You!

You will be disgraced!

^^ What is Xavi? What is Schweisteiger, What is Modric

Bimffo:



Did you Bring Out the site You brought it from. Please give Us the Link, and I will also give You!

You will be disgraced!

http://www.transfermarkt.com/andres-iniesta/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/7600/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

For my champions league stats you can verify any of the years you want by going to

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2015/statistics/round=2000548/players/type=assists/index.html

sleekdot:


http://www.transfermarkt.com/andres-iniesta/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/7600/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

For my champions league stats you can verify any of the years you want by going to

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2015/statistics/round=2000548/players/type=assists/index.html

https://www.statbunker.com/players/getPlayerStats?player_id=17798


That's it!!!

And I am sure You are very current with the meaning of Assists!

When Gurus come tomorrow, You give me my money.

Bimffo:



https://www.statbunker.com/players/getPlayerStats?player_id=17798


That's it!!!

And I am sure You are very current with the meaning of Assists!

When Gurus come tomorrow, You give me my money.

I have already proven 26 Iniesta Champions league assist using UEFA website.

So which gurus again? Are there some gurus who know more than UEFA on their own tournament?

sleekdot:


I have already proven 28 Iniesta Champions league assist using UEFA website.

So which gurus again? there are some gurus who know more than UEFA on their own tournament?

Sharap there! agbaya, I am not arguing again. You don't even know the number of what You posted again.

UEFA or no UEFA, Nihilist, Ibime etc will wake Up tomorrow and tell me how Iniesta racked Up 127 assists in his Barcelona career.

Like a foolish man will say, Put your mouth where your money is.

Bimffo:



Sharap there! agbaya, I am not arguing again. You don't even know the number of what You posted again.

UEFA or no UEFA, Nihilist, Ibime etc will wake Up tomorrow and tell me how Iniesta racked Up 127 assists in his Barcelona career.

Like a foolish man will say, Put your mouth where your money is.

Whats there to argue. Prove your point

I have already proven 26 CL assists using UEFA website

This is not the first time I'm staking money on this forum

Now All I need to is to get 74 assists for Iniesta in La Liga all time and your money is mine

Neither Ibime nor nihilist is more knowledgable than UEFA

Its when people are ignorant or out of point that they start abusing and insulting to divert attention

sleekdot:


Whats there to argue. Prove your point

I have already proven 26 CL assists using UEFA website

This is not the first time I'm staking money on this forum

Now All I need to is to get 74 assists for Iniesta in La Liga all time and your money is mine

Neither Ibime nor nihilist is more knowledgable than UEFA

Its when people are ignorant or out of point that they start abusing and insulting to divert attention

Once again, Eledumare punish You.

I am calling You out as a Liar. You said people will be the Judge of this. Then let them be.

You don't have to say UEFA this UEFA that! Let people do the judgement, Olodo..

His mouth like 150 assists, Like it is him that is producing it..


Assist is final pass that makes a goal..

But No, You went to bring Out stats that will not only give the final passer the assist but will give everyone that had contact with the ball before it led to a goal.

"Water Colour Website"

Lmao

Bimffo:
Please, Ibime, Nihilist, Pataki, A40, Airmark. Abeg help me tag people hensben!

Dayo is a fūcking Liar!!! 150 assists for Barca.

Lmaooo, Na Basket ball assists na.

You dey mind that clown?

I just dey look am since wey him dey talk say Iniesta get 150 assists only be say I no get time to factcheck.

Dayo put your money where your mouth is as Bimffo has challenged.

I sure say Iniesta does not have up to 100 assists in his Barcelona career.

I have never known that unproductive nigga to make assists in any decent volume.

Bimffo:
Please Iniesta stats of All time is



45 goals and 65 assists (Passes that led to goals)


We don't have to lie to win an argument.


Some of Us are just here to read and learn.

Definition of an unproductive nigga!!!

Bimffo:


With over 85 goals scored between the World best football trio (Messi, Neymar, Messi) in all club competitions this season, why does Iniesta have only 1 assist to contribute to their course.?

This is the definition of a "Carry me along" player.

Iniesta should be a PDP politician because politicians are the ones who beg to be carried along.

Like I said, if Iniesta played for any other club, they would have been questioning his productivity a long time ago.

His mates in AM position are busy making the key difference to their clubs in multiple games every season, while he is always waiting to be carried along. Spits.

Ibime:



You dey mind that clown?

I just dey look am since wey him dey talk say Iniesta get 150 assists only be say I no get time to factcheck.

Dayo put your money where your mouth is as Bimffo has challenged.

I sure say Iniesta does not have up to 100 assists in his Barcelona career.

I have never known that unproductive nigga to make assists in any decent volume.

You can also add your money to it

Iniesta has more than 100 assists for Barcelona in all competition

You get money we can make your stake $300-$500

Ibime if you are sure Iniesta does not have 100 assists for Barcelona stake $300

You be chairman and you get money. Moreover if you lose some of your lunch money maybe you go lose weight

Ibime:


I could swear you were talking about Iniesta here rather than Hazard.

I mean someone told us his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men, not to score or assist.

I could also swear the argument wasn't about Hazard vs Iniesta. No

You guys sure love this merry-go-round arguments. If his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men and not to score or assist, how is Hazard an attacker any different?

Besides, before you guys shift the goalpost again in order to favour your lines of thoughts and arguments, know that the initial duel was mainly about Iniesta and Lampard. Now, of course you guys won't sleep well as usual because most of you have been screaming blue murder. Why? Because, like you lot said or have been saying, Hazard is allowed to be judged with stats and why not Iniesta too? The same people will say Lampard is not better than Zizou and Xavi albeit with a better goal and assist ratio. But when it comes to Iniesta's turn, then Lampard is better than him because he commands better stats. And like I said earlier on, no one should come preach how Zidane played in a 4-4-2 formation blah blah blah... All those ones na story for the gods.

Moreover, since you guys are always fond of bringing Neymar-Hazard feud into play, hence the previous analysis of both, keeping away goals and assists. And now, you guys rather than challenge me on my post, you are looking for ways to cut short the argument by saying it was about Iniesta. Was it about Hazard too? Why did you guys not leave the Hazard-Neymar ish aside?

Like I said, you guys sure love the merry-go-round.

bigkesh:

Are you kidding me??
Hazard vs Iniesta is the argument, why Neymar

Are you freaking kidding me

Iniesta vs Lampard was the initial argument. No Why Hazard?

Jeez!

hensben:
dmcdad and co always shoot their foot by themselves.

You don't even know what's going on. So no need to answer you. You be JJC.

Griffon:


The Central midfield is not just a position but an area of the pitch. When you tag Iniesta a CM, be sure to tell if he's operating as a DM, a box-to-box midfielder or an AM.

That said, on paper Iniesta is unproductive but every seasoned footie pundit knows that is hardly true.

The ninja is more of an orchestra conductor - engine room, one shouldn't expect him to be posting figures anyhow.

simple!

No Argument, Bimffo lost this one.

As soon I as I switched on my phone and saw Bimffo shouting, I was hoping that he wasn't going to use Statbunker for reference

Statbunker only have league info from 07/08 Iniesta debuted in 02/03

Sleekdot wins...too easily

sleekdot:


Iniesta has 3 strikers playing in front of him most times at Barca who were responsible for scoring

Who were the 3 scorers ahead of Lampard between 2003 to 2014

So the three strikers ahead of Lamp are told to knock the ball down for Lamp?

Mr. When you are unproductive, your unproductive... No amount of twist and turn can bail you out....

sleekdot:
Ibime if you are sure Iniesta does not have 100 assists for Barcelona stake $300

You be chairman and you get money. Moreover if you lose some of your lunch money maybe you go lose weight

sinizia:
From what I can infer from these arguments especially from the Shekpe fans - they are peeved that Hazard was hounded, castigated and derided based on STATS by anti-Shekpes, but now the limelight is on Iniesta, there's need for the so-called benchmark called STATS to be discarded. It's hypocrisy.


To be frank, Shekpe fans are right to be pained by insults heaped on Hazard coz of stats but Iniesta is praised without it. Like many have posited including several links, stats don't tell the full story. If stats tell the full story Xavi and Zidane might end up being mediocre. Iniesta embodies what Barca midfield is all about. Like a link brought by Nihilist said, Fab4 was more direct, looking to assist from any position soon as he spotted a move thereby costing Barca possessions which they cherish so much. It ended up getting Fab sold. Iniesta and Barca midfield are all about passing the ball, holding on to the ball and wearing their opponent out. It's this reason that made Busiquet more suited as a DM for Barca than Yaya. Busiquet is tidy with passing/possession and less aggression which the average DM is known for. Lampard and Iniesta has differing qualities. Iniesta can dribble excellently, hold on to the ball, pass it around and hardly loses the ball. Lampard on other hand is more direct, making forward runs into opposition 18-yard boxes, making direct through passes to the CF and being in the opposition's 18-yard to score with a header or kick. Lampard wouldn't be THAT great in a Barca midfield, he can't pass, dribble and hold on the ball like Iniesta does. Same way Iniesta wouldn't have scored or assisted as much as Lampard did for Shekpe. Instead of arguing, we'd both appreciate the weaknesses and strengths of both legends. The are both different ninjas.

Like I opined, stats don't tell the full story that's why you'll never see me insult Hazard of last season. I remember when I started frequenting this section newly, I had an argument with Homestéady about who was the best shekpe player last season. He was telling me it's Fab or Costa. Telling me about their stats and how you guys have discussed it extensively. I simply told him that nobody on earth can convince that Fab played better than Hazard of last season. What Hazard brought to Shekpe last season, Fab can't match it. There's a reason that with ALL THE STATS of Fab and Costa, Hazard was the most feared Shekpe player of last season and the one opponents looked to nullify his potency. There's a reason Zidane chose Hazard as his best player of last season after Messi and CR7. There's a reason pundits and coaches was comparing him to CR7 and Messi. An average player can't get that much hype. Hazard, stats or no stats was head and shoulder above the rest of EPL.


Only an IDIØT can discredit Hazard of last season coz of some nonsense stats. Same way only a HATER can make a heretical statement like Iniesta is vision-less and unproductive. If there's any justice in the world, such a hater would be lynched for being irredeemably dumb!!

Nuff said!! God bless your brain.....