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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:28am On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


Welcome to Nigeria! Wow. That's Noah's Ark grin I'm sure the owner is one of ya paddyman living abroad. Unfortunately, there's nothing to do about it.

Shockingly to the uttermost dismay of everyone, I don't ever want to be a landlord. House flipping is it for me. Anything else, I'll take a pass. I'm too young to die worrying over unrealistic figures or doing Baba Ijebu permutations. At least not in Nigeria. My humble opinion though.
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As per the plot hunting, I hope my junior has gotten in touch with you sire.

Junior hasn't contacted me yet, maybe he will when I'm home and we can trudge together.

Re landlording, definitely not my cup of tea. My idea of Nigeria is as a total retirement base and from there travel. There are lots if places in Nigeria and Africa that I need to discover.

On one hand I am kinda happy though that someone see's value in that area to sink the vast amounts of money that is required for that edifice.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mujeebmuhsin: 5:59am On Mar 08, 2016
[I find these questions really interesting because I have an open courtyard in my house up North (kano).... interestingly, mine is quite different from the one EgunMogaji showed here. The open courtyard is in approximately the middle of the building and four walls are erected round the courtyard. The walls are very high and they serve as the king post of the roofing. The roofing only slant outwards. Though adequate drainage system was provided but even when it rains, the water that falls in to the courtyard isn't that much. Unfortunately, I don't have a picture that was taken from the top of the courtyard. An open courtyard is really amazing and poses no security issues. By the way, I have a silent follower of this section for quite a while.]@EgunMogaji


What's that non sand filled area of your foundation? If I can remember, you said somewhere that your floor plan includes a "courtyard" or something. Is that the courtyard? Again if I can remember you also talked about an area in your building where you can come out at night to the sky and on a moonlit night but feel secure....Right? So is it like a panic area as in panic room?

What's the roof design for the mentioned area? Are you going to roof the area inline with the entire building or you are not going to roof it to access the sky at night and day? These questions throw a lot of implications and challenges that need careful thought and planning:

If the area is an island courtyard with no roof, did you include in your foundation water drainage from the area? What happens during the rainy seasons? Water accumulates in the void and sip into your foundation if there are no drains. Your foundation will be near permanently wet. A constantly wet foundation is a serious cause for concern. There is also the potential of algae growth on the walls.

If you are going to roof the area, it means the area will be constantly dark, dank and damp without natural sunlight and air circulation. And why did you elect not to sand fill the area? Even if it's a courtyard it has to be at same level with the rest of the house so one does not come out into a "hole". [/quote]
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:50am On Mar 08, 2016
mujeebmuhsin:


I find these questions really interesting because I have an open courtyard in my house up North (kano).... interestingly, mine is quite different from the one EgunMogaji showed here. The open courtyard is in approximately the middle of the building and four walls are erected round the courtyard. The walls are very high and they serve as the king post of the roofing. The roofing only slant outwards. Though adequate drainage system was provided but even when it rains, the water that falls in to the courtyard isn't that much. Unfortunately, I don't have a picture that was taken from the top of the courtyard. An open courtyard is really amazing and poses no security issues. By the way, I have a silent follower of this section for quite a while.


There are many courtyards in the north. Courtyards make sense in Nigeria.

While doing my research on courtyards I found out that the north has some Mediterranean influence.

I would like to travel through Kano, Sokoto, Maiduguri to see the old buildings there.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:26am On Mar 08, 2016
abdulwastecx:
I bumped into a block named 'alistdevelopers. . Com. The blogger is a registered architect (according to him). 100% of his write up are my write up here on nairaland property section ( proper analysis of design and cost of a foundation for bungalows). He copied all my work world by world without referencing me.

Sorry about this, people are generally lazy and tend to pirate other people's intellectual rights in this country. But don't relent to help people or share your knowledge, the good you do surpasses the evils they do. Keep the good work going bro.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:37am On Mar 08, 2016
Courtyards are fun. It replicates a desirable outdoor environment by sheltering us from the harsher elements of extreme temperatures, rain and winds.

Although at this point, it's good to discuss about the advantages and disadvantages of having an open courtyard but I don't see EgunMogaji's foundation facing any of the water challenges highlighted above cos it's a slope (a gentle one). The only thing he needs to worry about is how to play with the water runoff. Luckily, he's having a type of runoff that can easily be tamed by sealing the perimeters of the foundation and redirecting it out of harms way.

I once said it that a slope site is a mixed-blessing. Here's one of the many positives.

As per the courtyard, he's still on course. He can choose to go for a horizontal glazing of the top, operable louvre Windows or skylight to deal with the harsh elements. Or build a rain garden.

And if he choose to build a drainage, it's never too late to do so. You can only trench in utilities/drainage pipes after you've completed the sandfilling. Not before.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:49am On Mar 08, 2016
spyder880:


Sorry about this, people are generally lazy and tend to pirate other people's intellectual rights in this country. But don't relent to help people or share your knowledge, the good you do surpasses the evils they do. Keep the good work going bro.

Thank you sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 9:34am On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I tell you brother, Nairaland and property section has quite a bit of nefarious characters on it.

I'm not busy this week so let me see what trouble I can cause for the character grin

It's really funny how cheats thinks they will go undiscovered for so long. I was actually the one that bumped into the site alistsdevelopers.ie and saw the abdulwastecx calculations on the guys site and requested abdulwasteteczx to clarify if he is the same person trading as alistdevelopers because the same calculations he did in his blogg was presented their verbatim. Suprised he got back to say that it was a different guy entirely.

It would be good to expose such professional cheats before serious damage is done. I doubt if the cheat is a qualified architect as he claimed, afterall advertising for services as the guy did in his site I learn't is against professional ethics of real Architects. #letsexposethecheats -alistdevelopers#.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:16pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:
Courtyards are fun. It replicates a desirable outdoor environment by sheltering us from the harsher elements of extreme temperatures, rain and winds.

Although at this point, it's good to discuss about the advantages and disadvantages of having an open courtyard but I don't see EgunMogaji's foundation facing any of the water challenges highlighted above cos it's a slope (a gentle one). The only thing he needs to worry about is how to play with the water runoff. Luckily, he's having a type of runoff that can easily be tamed by sealing the perimeters of the foundation and redirecting it out of harms way.

I once said it that a slope site is a mixed-blessing. Here's one of the many positives.

As per the courtyard, he's still on course. He can choose to go for a horizontal glazing of the top, operable louvre Windows or skylight to deal with the harsh elements. Or build a rain garden.

And if he choose to build a drainage, it's never too late to do so. You can only trench in utilities/drainage pipes after you've completed the sandfilling. Not before.

My boss, you hit the nail on the head.

I'm waiting to fill the courtyard before doing the plumbing. I want specific topsoil in the courtyard and must oversee the positioning of the waste pipes. If the courtyard should flood then the whole house will be flooded so this is an important aspect for me.

So what the group of pimple faced fraudulent malcontents on here consider a slow pace build due to lack of funds is actually a coordinated natural compacting filing process and calculations made to time critical stage of build to my time on the ground.

Ikan ti agba fiju omodelo opo grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:48pm On Mar 08, 2016
Baba ijebu got balls now to use condescending words again here.....small change don enter their pocket. Www.gofundme.com is working now and also we are seeing new pictures cos
Its tax season grin and now we no go rest again...feb - april. After that they crawl back under their rocks.. ibanuje loojo ori...olowo lagba o!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:01pm On Mar 08, 2016
3strike:
Olowo lagba o!


Baba, point of correction. Iriri lagba. Some fucking rich people are on this thread just to acquire experiences which money can't buy.

I'm opportuned to have met a few of them.

No pun intended o.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:12pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


Baba, point of correction. Iriri lagba. Some fucking rich people are on this thread just to acquire experiences which money can't buy.

I'm opportuned to have met a few of them.

No pun intended o.

Reminds me of Linda Ikeji and her alleged rants about how rich she is.

It's easy to spot poor folks by their fixation on moola grin

If opportuned, pick up a copy of "The Millionaire Next Door". Some eyinbo Ijebu pass my own sef grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:20pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


Baba, point of correction. Iriri lagba. Some fucking rich people are on this thread just to acquire experiences which money can't buy.

I'm opportuned to have met a few of them.

No pun intended o.


It will be beta if u keep shut and go pay ur debts than taking sides here and leave me and the next door NL millionaire alone. Btw no pun intended too.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:37pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Reminds me of Linda Ikeji and her alleged rants about how rich she is.

It's easy to spot poor folks by their fixation on moola grin

If opportuned, pick up a copy of "The Millionaire Next Door". Some eyinbo Ijebu pass my own sef grin


No one is talking about if you are rich or not bro.....we all know the answer already. Just face your lane or park well and also stop trying to make smart comments.. Anyways entertain us with new pictures today abeg grin..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:46pm On Mar 08, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/2977759/photos-building-collapse-lekki-lagos

Would love to read intelligent discussion about this from astute professional builders that are building in that axis.

How can a 5 story commercial building collapse in 2016 in Lagos with all the stringent government process in place?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:46pm On Mar 08, 2016
3strike:



It will be beta if u keep shut and go pay ur debts than taking sides here and leave me and the next door NL millionaire alone. Btw no pun intended too.

cry And I was only trying to explain o... and this happened.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:49pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


cry And I was only trying to explain o... and this happened.

I salute your resilience Brabus grin

Why, you're almost more resilient than that dashing character, EgunMogaji baba gbogbo awon omokomo ori Nairaland cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:53pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:
https://www.nairaland.com/2977759/photos-building-collapse-lekki-lagos

Would love to read intelligent discussion about this from astute professional builders that are building in that axis.

How can a 5 story commercial building collapse in 2016 in Lagos with all the stringent government process in place?

No other comment. The great Opalu has issued a statement on that thread.

opalu:
May the souls departed rest in peace. God protect and deliver those wounded.

I advise all those who want to build houses to give it to the very best hands who are EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD! For the fact that a man is building houses here and there though he is an Economist or a Banker or a Computer guru or in other fields not related to structural engineering doesn't make it right.

Most clients are moved by finishes but finishes are mere cosmetics!! A sick body does not get well by applying cosmetics likewise imported finishing from Italy cannot deliver a wrongly constructed concrete.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:53pm On Mar 08, 2016
I understand that it rained heavily last night in Ibadan. Good and bad. Good that my filing is getting the necessary water. Bad because I might have Lake EgunMogaji inside my "korting yadi" - sigh.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:54pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I salute your resilience Brabus grin

Why, you're almost more resilient than that dashing character, EgunMogaji baba gbogbo awon omokomo ori Nairaland cheesy


like father like son....Sound familiar? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:57pm On Mar 08, 2016
3strike:



like father like son....Sound familiar? grin

grin

Baba 3strike, I just don't want you and EgunMogaji's fight anymore whether on Nairaland or anywhere else. I'm not taking sides.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:02pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


grin

Baba 3strike, I just don't want you and Egun's fight anymore. I'm not taking sides

Fight ke? Egun no dey fight anyone o, na comic relief cheesy

If only Seun will provide that ignoreuserfilter that I've been asking for grin

EgunMogaji Adakejeje a Jabi Esu grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:09pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:
https://www.nairaland.com/2977759/photos-building-collapse-lekki-lagos

Would love to read intelligent discussion about this from astute professional builders that are building in that axis.

How can a 5 story commercial building collapse in 2016 in Lagos with all the stringent government process in place?

I learnt its one of the projects belonging to the estate firm that I mentioned in my post yesterday.

Such development is called GIGO in computer language. Rush in, Rush Out.

brabus:
8:50am March 07, 2015

Interesting! You're lucky you found that out. One of the leading real estate firm in Nigeria (with over 20,000 units of residential apartment built in Lagos) organized a training for all their registered contractors and they used one of my works on Nairaland (2012 Detached Duplexes) for the training even to the extent of showing my car in their presentation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:10pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Fight ke? Egun no dey fight anyone o, na comic relief cheesy

If only Seun will provide that ignoreuserfilter that I've been asking for grin

EgunMogaji Adakejeje a Jabi Esu grin

me and Egun go soon share beer on this thread..... thats if he no go cheat me sha like one of his son undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:17pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


I learnt its one of the projects belonging to the estate firm that I mentioned in my post yesterday.

Such development is called GIGO in computer language. Rush in, Rush Out.


I guess it goes back to choice of two between cheap, fast and good.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:20pm On Mar 08, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I guess it goes back to choice of two between cheap, fast and good.

Cheap and Fast can NEVER BE GOOD. Sadly, that's what 90% of people (young and adults) want nowadays. The question to ask ourselves is this "Between a road and a house, which one do we think should take longer time to construct?" Most road projects takes between 18 months - 30 months with periodic breaks, but here we are a company that is less than 10 years in operations has built over 30,000 units of houses in Nigeria and we are clapping. Even the industry giants and govt corps (like UPDC, LSPDC, Union Homes etc) can't boast of achieving this feat.

We believe its money for hand, back for ground (a typical naija mentality). The difference will show. It's only a matter of time!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 4:03pm On Mar 08, 2016
It's not all building that collapse during construction. The interesting thing about building is that, some times it may take between to 5years to 10 years before you can either rejoice with your builder or start cursing your builder. While some builders want to frustrate you with your project. Because you give a house to a builder to build does not mean he wishes you well.

Iyan ogun odun, oshi gbona...ni oro ile.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:05pm On Mar 08, 2016
babalose:
It's not all building that collapse during construction. The interesting thing about building is that some times it may take between to 5years to 10 years before you can either rejoice with your builder or start cursing your builder.

Iyan ogun odun, oshi gbona...ni oro ile.

Well said Brabus grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:09pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


Cheap and Fast can NEVER BE GOOD. Sadly, that's what 90% of people (young and adults) want nowadays. The question to ask ourselves is this "Between a road and a house, which one do we think should take longer time to construct?" Most road projects takes between 18 months - 30 months with periodic breaks, but here we are a company that is less than 10 years in operations has built over 30,000 units of houses in Nigeria and we are clapping. Even the industry giants and govt corps (like UPDC, LSPDC, Union Homes etc) can't boast of achieving this feat.

We believe its money for hand, back for ground (a typical naija mentality). The difference will show. It's only a matter of time!

I'm okay with cheap and good and not expecting fast. I mean I won't hit retirement age (purpose for the Ibadan build) for almost two more decades so what's my hurry?

I do thank my Nairaland "well wishers" that has given me an advanced age already, it means that I will at last reach the 70 or 80 years age that they have given me grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 4:12pm On Mar 08, 2016
@ 3strike.....time proves all, Brabus work will be tested with time even though he thrives at the detriment of his clients.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PropertyBoxNG(f): 4:24pm On Mar 08, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/2974345/must-read-property-owners-real


mufutau55:
Off-Topic Thread - To Discuss Anything and Everything that doesn't fit into an individual thread.
Let's discuss everything pertaining to Building Constructions, Real estate and some more.

Note: Please no products or services advertisements... there are plenty of other threads for that already.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Onuokwu: 5:37pm On Mar 08, 2016
brabus:


I learnt its one of the projects belonging to the estate firm that I mentioned in my post yesterday.

Such development is called GIGO in computer language. Rush in, Rush Out.




Does this estate firm/developer have a name? If so and your are sure they own that property, i think it is in order to mention it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:27pm On Mar 08, 2016
Onuokwu:


Does this estate firm/developer have a name? If so and your are sure they own that property, i think it is in order to mention it.

I agree it is in order to mention the name but the info relayed to me is yet to be confirmed and as such I don't think it's fair to give bad press to anyone until there's a confirmation.

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