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Annunaki:


Are you so depressed you believe your own lies Cause every muslim I know admits that that mohamed was a perverted paedophile who molested aisha when she was only nine years old and it's clearly recorded in several of your pathetic sahih islamic books so no sane muslim can deny it.

the guy is still trying to balance the our holly prophet he knew when he was young, to the prophet of sexual depravity, armed robber, slave trader, wife snatcher, gigalo + love-vendor , copy and paste and liar personified he is now seeing.

I don't blame them.

Psychopath you are....!!!Do you think Isaac Newton or Mohammed could be more influential than their creator?

facheux:
if indeed the marriage of Aisha was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.

But the fact that this hadith had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.

Secondly - we have to look at the life of Aisha afterwards. She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is even said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti - someone capable of giving religious rulings - a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.

She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.

If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.

And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.

No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought.

The marriage of aisha to mohamed as a baby and it being 'morally' and traditionally accepted at that time only goes to show how pathetically low the moral standards were at that time and also how islam's best man subjected himself to such low standards by abusing baby aisha. One would have expected a supposed prophet to have higher moral standards than his people and for him to bring his people up morally and not succumb to their low standards. Remember mohammed is supposed to be an example for all muslims till eternity and not just for seventh century barbarian muslims. Now sane muslims all over the world do not support child marriages meaning they have higher standards than paedophile puppet mohamed and yet these same muslims are supposed to see mohamed as their best example Do you see how ridiculous this is?

That said, how do we know it's not because of the abuse aisha was subjected that she conspired with her father to murder mohamed and takeover the leadership of islam from him? Remember it was the same aisha that asked "how come allaah was always giving revelations to favour mohamed?" meaning she saw through his lies and doubted his claims to be a prophet.

Blackfire:



the guy is still trying to balance the our holly prophet he knew when he was young, to the prophet of sexual depravity, armed robber, slave trader, wife snatcher, gigalo + love-vendor , copy and paste and liar personified he is now seeing.

I don't blame them.

I can imagined the average muslim has his brain screwed in the wrong direction as far as mohamed is concerned after growing up to believe mohamed is "the best of mankind" based on several years of repeated lies and made up stories of how nice mohammed was. I can understand the confusion he is now facing when being told with glaring evidence that his most cherished beliefs are just sweet lies formulated to make mohamed look good but he we still rather believe the lies than own up to the ugly truth and have his cherished myths busted.

facheux:
if indeed the marriage of Aisha was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.

But the fact that this hadith had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.

Secondly - we have to look at the life of Aisha afterwards. She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is even said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti - someone capable of giving religious rulings - a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.

She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.

If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.

And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.

No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought.

My altaqiyya merchant, your criminal prophet had no good record, even among his wives. He supported wife beating and oppression of women as narrated by his youngest wife, Aisha, whom he married when she was 6 while mohammed (hiss be upon him) was 51 years old.

Hadith and Sira Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she
was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women (muslim women)'" Muhammad's own wife complained of the abuse that the women of her religion suffered relative to other women.

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's fathers- in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.

So is this how responsible muslim husbands treat their wives? That means that muslim husbands have relegated their wives into slaves and second class people.

Can you show me a single prophet in the bible that beat his wife? One.

true2god:
My altaqiyya merchant, your criminal prophet had no good record, even among his wives. He supported wife beating and oppression of women as narrated by his youngest wife, Aisha, whom he married when she was 6 while mohammed (hiss be upon him) was 51 years old.

Hadith and Sira Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she
was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women (muslim women)'" Muhammad's own wife complained of the abuse that the women of her religion suffered relative to other women.

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's fathers- in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.

So is this how responsible muslim husbands treat their wives? That means that muslim husbands have relegated their wives into slaves and second class people.

Can you show me a single prophet in the bible that beat his wife? One.

More women abuse by the prophet of allahh:

Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

Abu Dawud (2126) - "A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: 'I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).' The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: 'She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her'" A Muslim thinks he is getting a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad tells him to treat the woman as a sex slave and then flog her after she delivers the child.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 969 - Requires that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.

Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525) - [Muhammad said] "Hang up your scourge (cain or even belt for beating your wife) where your wife can see it"

Annunaki:


I can imagined the average muslim has his brain screwed in the wrong direction as far as mohamed is concerned after growing up to believe mohamed is "the best of mankind" based on several years of repeated lies and made up stories of how nice mohammed was. I can understand the confusion he is now facing when being told with glaring evidence that his most cherished beliefs are just sweet lies formulated to make mohamed look good but he we still rather believe the lies than own up to the ugly truth and have his cherished myths busted.

the more reason we who knows the depth of destruction this cult like religion had done should continue to bombard there 'our holly prophet' image, send send in commandos to finish off the remaining mujahadins holding on to al taqiya.

Am telling u people are listening and reading all our truth- grenade thrown at lies built by Islam.
For example when i was young i was told that the quran was hand craft from heaven and delivered to mohamed our holly prophet, (just like Moses ten commandment) that it was not written by men.. I grew up researched on my own and find out that it was a BIG FAT LIE..
1. I saw other works of pseudo- sects of chritains and Judaism and Hinduism , stories like the people who slept in the cave and wake up many years, infant Jesus stories like talking in the womb, substitution on the cross,and so on. On Judaism work ... We Muslim s used to pray toward Jerusalem, but when they rejected our prophet he face ka'ba in mecca, the quote from the quran' if u kill a person is like u ve killed a whole nation' was actually from the Jewish rabbis, and so on. On Hinduism u should know that all u Muslims do during hajj is pure... .... Hinduism, the circumventing of the ka'ba, killing ram after the thru religious rite, washing in zam zam water, wrapping yourself in white cloth, kissing of the stone , and so on .

2....
Let me stop here.
I am blackfire.

true2god:
More women abuse by the prophet of allahh:

Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

Abu Dawud (2126) - "A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: 'I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).' The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: 'She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her'" A Muslim thinks he is getting a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad tells him to treat the woman as a sex slave and then flog her after she delivers the child.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 969 - Requires that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.

Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525) - [Muhammad said] "Hang up your scourge (cain or even belt for beating your wife) where your wife can see it"

Mr kaffri u don't know what u are saying.
They are not from the hadiths.
*receives e- slap*.
Ok they are from the hadiths , but they are not authentic .
*receives another slap*.
Ok ok they are authentic, but u don't know Arabic .
*about to receive another e- slap*.

---runs away---

annunaki i see u, annalice109, parisbookaddict, gimakon, truthman, nina4u, true2god, unphilaz.

Blackfire:


Mr kaffri u don't know what u are saying.
They are not from the hadiths.
*receives e- slap*.
Ok they are from the hadiths , but they are not authentic .
*receives another slap*.
Ok ok they are authentic, but u don't know Arabic .
*about to receive another e- slap*.

---runs away---

annunaki i see u, annalice109, parisbookaddict, gimakon, truthman, nina4u, true2god, unphilaz.

Ya, I am a proud kafir who will continue exposing the arabian death-cult and the most successful mafia organization, that is Islam. Bros, it is difficult to defend Islam and mohammed rationally, using their own hadith and their quran against them.

Mohammed (hiss be upon him) is the greatest evil to walk on the face on the earth. Hitler is an lightweight to mohammed.

The writer of the article is a dunce. Perhaps the op added his/her own word. How can they be the most influential THAT EVER WALK ON EARTH?
So you know how old the earh is? What about those that built the beautiful monuments across the world? What about builders of civilizations?

True, all of those on the list has made some influence in the ages, but ever on earth? that does not make any sense.

true2god:
Ya, I am a proud kafir who will continue exposing the arabian death-cult and the most successful mafia organization, that is Islam. Bros, it is difficult to defend Islam and mohammed rationally, using their own hadith and their quran against them.

Mohammed (hiss be upon him) is the greatest evil to walk on the face on the earth. Hitler is an lightweight to mohammed.

You are very correct, hitler's evil pales in comparison to that of mohamed when you consider the number of lives that have been wasted/destroyed over the centuries based on mohamed's evil teachings. Mohamed is surely the worst vermin to have ever ravaged this earth.

why did the christians ignored the head post and resorted to abusive comments? The writer of the book 100 most influencial people in history is not a muslim he was a christian by name MICHAEL H HART. Criticism and praises of muhammad (p.b.u.h) will be from the mangod worshipers and haters of al-amin

nativefowl:
why did the christians ignored the head post and resorted to abusive comments? The writer of the book 100 most influencial people in history is not a muslim he was a christian by name MICHAEL H HART. Criticism and praises of muhammad (p.b.u.h) will be from the mangod worshipers and haters of al-amin

We already addressed the head post and it is just the daft ill informed opinion of the writer of the book(if he actually wrote it) though mohamed was influential, he is clearly not the most influential man in history and his influence is not worth celebrated cause his influence is the cause of the biggest problem in the world today and in human history(islamic terrorism) mohamed(curses be upon him) would best be relegated into the dustbin of history.

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Visitor700:


These are some of the punishments meted out to women for crimes that are just laughable.

[size=17]1. Cutting off her hand because she rescued her husband from his assailant[/size]

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."
(Deuteronomy 25:11-12[NIV])

[size=17]2. A man can dissolve his marraige at any time on grounds that his wife wasn't a virgin when he married her. Her father must prove that his daughter was a virgin otherwise she will be stoned to death[/size]

"If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels[ a ] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house."
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21[NIV])

[size=17]3. Stoned to death for not crying out during rape in the city unless it is carried out in the country-side[/size]

"If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto a man, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die: the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife; so thou shalt put away the evil from the midst of thee. But if the man find the damsel that is betrothed in the field, and the man take hold of her, and lie with her; then the man only that lay with her shall die."
(Deuteronomy 22:23-25)

please when in debate with me, try not to use copy and paste, thanks.

Now u will agree with me , that mohamed shariah- listic code was derived from the Torah , which the Christians says the messiah ve come to abolish... Typical example is the incident of a woman caught in adultery.. Law confront grace, where grace tries to save sinners from sin from spreading,while law tries to destroy sin and sinners from spreading.

Now mohamed came and hold tenaciously to a destroyed code that has been abolished in Christ..

*i am using both facts from the religious book to say all this*

if a man stole... Torah law says let him pay double of what he stole.. Grace in Christ says i condemned what u did, but am touching your heart to go and steal no more, well shariah by the jusdipense of mohamed , says cut of his hands.. My Muslim friend you see the difference.
The old testament is there to remind Christians of what Christ has redeemed them from, and what they must never put there neck under that yoke..
*damn, somebody give me a pulpit *

Blackfire:


please when in debate with me, try not to use copy and paste, thanks.

Now u will agree with me , that mohamed shariah- listic code was derived from the Torah , which the Christians says the messiah ve come to abolish... Typical example is the incident of a woman caught in adultery.. Law confront grace, where grace tries to save sinners from sin from spreading,while law tries to destroy sin and sinners from spreading.

Now mohamed came and hold tenaciously to a destroyed code that has been abolished in Christ..

*i am using both facts from the religious book to say all this*

if a man stole... Torah law says let him pay double of what he stole.. Grace in Christ says i condemned what u did, but am touching your heart to go and steal no more, well shariah by the jusdipense of mohamed , says cut of his hands.. My Muslim friend you see the difference.
The old testament is there to remind Christians of what Christ has redeemed them from, and what they must never put there neck under that yoke..
*damn, somebody give me a pulpit *

Brilliant post especially coming from an atheist. Onetrack, ifeness, plaetton come and read what an atheist who has more sense than you lot wrote.

Annunaki:


Brilliant post especially coming from an atheist. Onetrack, ifeness, plaetton come and read what an atheist who has more sense than you lot wrote.

not sure why you bring me into this. I am a regular and harsh critic of Islam. I just can't respond to every post. Take a look at my post history--lots of criticism of Islam.

onetrack:


not sure why you bring me into this. I am a regular and harsh critic of Islam. I just can't respond to every post. Take a look at my post history--lots of criticism of Islam.

When you criticise islam, like most other atheist, you claim christianity is as bad which is far from the truth. The problems christianity has are mostly man made and not inspired by the christian testament.

INJESUSNAME:
[s]Ye, there is negative influence and there is positive influence. If your followers imitate you and they cannot impact the world positively, you are negative, a bad, and evil influence.[/s]

e pain am.shouldn't Hitler be number one then

no xtian is yet to give any reasonable reason why their god should be number one.

tartar9:

e pain am.shouldn't Hitler be number one then

Hitler comes far behind mohammed in terms of negative influence.

tartar9:
no xtian is yet to give any reasonable reason why their god should be number one.

The fact that there are a lot more christians than muslims today says it all.

[s]

Annunaki:


Hitler comes far behind mohammed in terms of negative influence.

[/s]

That's a douchy comment even for you.

facheux:
[s][/s]

That's a douchy comment even for you.

Hitler's evil influence lasted for only a few years but that of mohamed has lasted for almost 1,400 years and far more lives have been lost and destroyed based on mohamed's evil influence than hitler's.

How on earth would christians be commenting on this kind of write up, how will someone be placing MY SAVIOUR,REDEEMER,DELIVERER,THE KING OF KINGS, THE LORD OF LORDS E.T.C. with mere mortals like one mohamed or whosoever, for me Jesus is too big to even be on this so called list of ranking, mohamed can not even be compared to apost. Paul, did i just mention paul, even Judas who betrayed Christ.So lets not dishonour Jesus by placing him with mortals, HE IS FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Greater.God bless you

I am glad my friends that we used to argue are hear to read this nyc OP's, whether you like it or not He will be the most influential, and your overflogged claim of him being pedophile cannot stand as it is wrong to use term on him, a pedophile will never enjoy any other thing than children, don't you get it? And as grievous as such disorder may go, it is established that the victim may fall on his BIOLOGICAL child when the disorder tends to be triggered, so what are you now saying in this instance, you better consult physicians and they will explain to you better. You are just misusing the terms and it's meaning.

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Visitor700:

Why? If a claim is not substantiated then it is not a fact.




He didn't abolish the law.

[size=13]17. Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

18. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

19. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
(Matthew 5:17-19)[/size]



He also imposed punishment for adultery.

[size=13]28. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

29. So if your eye--even your good eye--causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
(Matthew 5:28-29)[/size]

1. Copy and paste is like cheating in the exam hall, where in a bid to copy your friend who u think he / she knows, u end up falling the exam.

2. If we are to judge by that verse 28 , mohamed will be in hell.. Do u remember how he collected his adopted son's wife, after seeing her succulent b.o.Obs

3. And as u read the verse did u see him after condemning adultery, did u hear him say stone her to death? .

4. If u are under grace u will abhor sin , but somehow in your heart u still love the sinner... Not murder them.. That is the difference between grace and law.

Now let me give u an example.. 50 workers who ve pass the govt working age were discovered, the law demand that they be disgraced and asked to return the salaries of years back... Now that is the law, But But But and But the govnor came studied the situation, condemned the teachers illegal attitude, but ask them to go.... Now that is grace.
A condemned criminal who is on deathrow condemned by the law, was granted state pardon by the govnor, now that is grace * tears in my eyes*

i will come back later

Annunaki:


The fact that there are a lot more christians than muslims today says it all.

you mean the number of people who bear xtian names?

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