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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:10pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
NL1960: I'm thinking either squatters or workers or family using it as temporary shelter during construction of other buildings in the cluster. Sad news all around ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:12pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
4nobody4every1: Was that going to be a rental unit or your residence? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 3:24pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Must be squatters, one of my workers rang me on the day of the incidence to say that some of his boys will not be coming to site due to this sad tale. Few years ago, I considered Lekki Gardens, even spoke to Richard Nyong self, I got that far. I thank Almighty God that I didint take the plunge. NL1960: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:29pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
NL1960: EgunMogaji: According to I'll share the link to the sordid story. Edit: Sorry, it's Vanguard. The newspaper did full coverage of the event. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/mother-child-16-others-die-as-5-storey-building-collapses/ 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4nobody4every1: 3:42pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:It was a rental, my residence is somewhere else ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:50pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
mavverick: Thank God you heed to my advice. Even though you choose not to give credit to God for using me. ![]() That time we used to chop Amala together. I remember how we choose to face Lekki II project instead of Lekki Garden then. Thanking God for you. _______ That's the reason why experience counts. I knew how disappointed you were then but I'm happy 4 years after you were able to see what I saw back then. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:04pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
@ crisisng, how many bottles have you had today? You need to stop. Let's maintain a clean house. The elders are beginning to show face. Hajji Mufutau55, eku Agba o. Ai y'aju s'oba... |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by crisisng: 4:10pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Only 3 bottles but I am at the backseat now. I am in learner mode now ![]() ![]() No more comments from me. You are my Bro so take it with plenty salt. No vex BTW, that link that you sent shows the state of our economy. Just sad how these people make Billions yet owe Artisans comon 2k per day. There is alot of Blood on these developers hands. I know our Govt will keep quiet but trust me Baba God is not sleeping. Me self be elder toooo although I feel very young ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() brabus: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 4:12pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
BRABUS... So you can come here to say this, for starters I never once ate with you, because if I went to get water, I do not know what you will put inside my food. That is how highly I place you. Our friendship has been forever damaged, you know why and I do not need to go into much details, but I still have not received alert as you promised and i am still waiting for my money.. I used my own common sense, I regret using your services BIG time. Read the comments below about workers being owed, do you know how many times that happened when you were working for me ? , what annoys me is that these people working are being paid small amounts of money, and yet you choose to owe them, you can buy big jeeps and cars, prayer stones and sculptures of animals etc and common 3k a day for workers, you were owing them and they came crying to me. It is really SAD and very WICKED of you. I think everyday you wake up, you should be seeking forgiveness. see below. brabus: 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:18pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
crisisng: Bros, you made my day with this comment. Can someone open a thread on Lekki garden make I finish them? I don't care what anyone feels about this. Aguntan wa o je labe geesi, Ise owo wa la wa nje. You go be Baba ita be dat if you're an elder. Also, I do not own multiple ID. I have just Brabus and Brabus NG (which I created when Brabus was banned by Nairaland spambot). Babalose is one of my paying client. I think you owe him an apology. I'm a friend and a harmless business man. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by crisisng: 4:22pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
OK oo. If you are not Babalose then sorry to the real Babalose but me thinks you are playing a fast one here ![]() ![]() Anyways, let's face Lekki Gardens. I know I am hoping for a Miracle but someone has to do something about this avoidable incident. Surely our Govt cannot ignore this again and again. Benin go start war with us over this ooo brabus: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:25pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
mavverick: See as you fall my hand big time for the presence of the whole world. Incidentally, you're still the only client who has ever visited me in the office, home and I visited your house. Ate in your house and our usual joint at M***chicken and Sangotedo joint. As per owing workers, you have records bro. i guess I owe when the owner hasn't reel out fund. And if there's any evidence contrary to this claim, you can provide. You know what I mean baba. Meanwhile, I don't want us to spoil this good mood. Intelligent discussion resumed. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:56pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Lagos state government halts Lekki gardens’ construction A five-storey building under construction has collapsed in Lagos on Tuesday, March 8, killing at least 30 people The state government has directed the suspension of work at the site The Lagos state government has asked the directors to report to the police within 24 hours. Read more here https://www.naij.com/758359-building-collapse-lagos-state-halts-lekki-gardens-construction.html Take note of the bolded above. Halt not officially sealed off Lekki Garden. It seems some people in the government are following this forum in ghost mode. We no care so long you do the right thing. Halt 1. a suspension of movement or activity, typically a temporary one. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:10pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:31pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Lagos State Halts Lekki Gardens' Construction http://akinwunmiambode.com/building-collapse-lagos-halts-lekki-gardens-construction/
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:40pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Interesting Reads: Lekki Gardens in ambitious projection, targets 1m housing units by 2023 With what is, arguably, an impressive outing in the last three years during which it excited the Nigerian housing market with about 15,000 housing units in a total of 48 projects, Lekki Gardens is out again with an ambitious projection that targets one million housing units to be delivered by 2023. This target, according to… http://businessdayonline.com/2015/07/lekki-gardens-in-ambitious-projection-targets-1m-housing-units-by-2023/ Average of 150,000 units yearly. If the whole threads and topics on Nairaland properties were to be a building project, it wouldn't have reached 100,000 units. Interestingly, a company which launched her flagship project about 4 years ago is promising to meet 8% of Nigeria housing challenge within 10 years. That's not ambitious, it's overzealous ambition. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:58pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Meanwhile, Nigeria as at 2013 adds about 30,000 housing units (both private and public sector) annually which is just about 6% of Millenium Decelopment Goal. Our MDG goal is to have 500,000 housing units. Now, ask me when did our houses begin to fall like pack of cards. About the same time, I guess. ______ Source: 3invest Real Estate UNITE FIRE Conference 2014 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:02pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Brabus you've been on this Lekki Garden issue since yesterday.....Everyone will agree its really a sad news but then am just wondering why you keep spreading the news about this developer or is there something you are not telling us? ![]() . 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 6:08pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
NL1960: Its all lies! Did you not notice how they have been avoiding 'naming the builder'? ![]() That house is likely inhabited by human beings. With the amount of "structural defects" they talked about, that place should have been fenced-off and a ver big Signboard erected with the inscription: DANGER! KEEP OFF, BUILDING LIABLE TO COLLAPSE ANY MOMENT!! ![]() ![]() ![]() But then, we know some of these quack builders forming "G-CAPPA" over here! The worst of them all even had the temerity to be lecturing us on this thread! If this one did not collapse, l bet he would also be posturing about how many solid buildIngs he had built. Lesson is: If it was Brabus/BrabusNG/Bosun Davies that built your house, you are still in the "Grace Period of God",.... get an independent and diligent Structural Consultant to give it a thorough examination. Its the sensible thing to do I hate Sad stories like this! Death Toll now at 30 people, ....yet they tell us it is not occupied, right? ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:14pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Comparative Apples with Apple Lekki Gardens targets 1,000,000 affordable units in 10 years. That's an average on 100,000 units per annum Gran Imperio Group (GIG) projected to deliver a minimum of 1000 upscale but pocket-friendly housing units on a yearly basis. LSPDC was only able to deliver 20,000 units of affordable houses within 15 years. Average of 1,300 units per annum 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 6:17pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Haha 8% of CRAP !! I was watching a channels Tv documentary, come and see raw sewage behind people kitchens in LG phase 2. So Brabus, did you learn a thing or two from Lekki Gardens ? On a more serious note, Its good for developers to be up front with clients, rather than promising low cost builds, and then cutting all sorts of corners. If there was one thing i always told you when my build was under your stewardship, it was never to compromise on build quality, I had rather have cheap finishing and good build rather than the other way around. I remember when I bought hardcore, and how you used to ask me that why am i wasting money when i insisted on having hardcore before my German floor. It is to prevent issues like Lekki Gardens.... brabus: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:19pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
I believe Christ is coming soon. Obama may just have to seek third term bid for the foretold prophesy to come to pass. Meanwhile, enjoy the lectures despite what it did to you. The last time I checked I'm using my paid Internet to browse. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 6:19pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
He could have applied for a job there and they didnt give him, so its payback time.... 3strike: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:30pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Beer parlour gist resumed. I gotta move. Here's a note to my numerous boos: I’m not here right now so cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and GET OVER IT! You've got the whole world in your hand now. I'll be right back. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:39pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
3strike: Baba, the topic is Off-topic Thread - To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Constructions. I just pick my interest. Any problem with that? Just as we have individual interests. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:53pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
brabus: Oh Nah...Was just wondering..... ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:57pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
mavverick: Brabus, you can tell me to go pound sand and I'll understand but did you make this promise? I thought you were suggesting that both you and your client to go and meet the approval guy at his office down the street from h2. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 7:06pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
I don't see anything wrong in contributing to this thread at anytime, i deem fit. I use Nairaland mainly for gathering information and i ask question as at when due, depending on which topic i need to be more informed. I have been using Nairaland since November 2012 so referring to me as Brabus is baseless. Nobody has the monopoly of wisdom. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:31pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: As a peace loving person, I resolved with my Oga to pay him 50% of the said amount to which I ve transferred 50k almost 3 weeks ago. The wahala just resumed yesterday when Oga say where is his balance. I will go back to Nairaland to make trouble. I will transfer back the 50k to you. Blah blah blah. And wetin I go when the money no dey! 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by crisisng: 7:33pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Baba Egun, Thank you very much for this comment. The problem with this case is that neither Maverick nor Brabus have come to tell us what they have agreed on so we are all in the dark. All we get from time to time is snippets of what they may have agreed but none of us are sure so it's left to Maverick/Brabus to shed some light on this. Maverick/Brabus wetin be you na final conclusion? Has payment been agreed or have u guys agreed to close the matter in some other way? EgunMogaji: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:42pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Chekitaut: You can build anywhere provided proper engineering principles are followed. If you build high rise building in ikotun without adequate soil analysis, good structural analysis considering all the load and some environmental conditions you will still experienced structural failure. Geotechnical and structural engineers are not magicians they undergo training in the use of mathematical principle, materials properties and economy to evaluate the suitability of soil for engineering construction and the capacity of each members that can be use to build a house or other structure that will be save for the occupancy or general public to use. Most design are done using limit state ( Ultimate and serviceability). When you build high rise building without proper soil analysis ( which may cost less than 1% of project sum) you are playing with people's life If you build any building higher than a Bungalow without proper structural analysis and design (always ask for the calculations sheet to be examined by different person) you are playing with people's life. When you build without building codes and lay down designs (you are playing with life) 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:48pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
brabus: Money was N400k I think, you offered 50%, was it accepted and the alert being expected is the N150k? Yes. If so then great development I think but it's not my money on either side. As for the approval guy I thought someone was going to have him in kirikiri? Did that happen? Do you have any recourse to compel the approval guy to cough up the money? You can add that to the incidental cost of doing business but mi amigo por favor don't let this thing happen again. You're a builder, let the client come with his paperwork. Okay I'll go back to my padlock chicken coop now. |
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