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Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 10:46am On Mar 10, 2016 |
koonbey:i've never seen God order mass murder for no reason. Was He off His rockers,miffed or what? I do know He is infinitely patient and before the era of grace, He , judged sin as it occured. It's interesting that you folks know these verses but have no clue or choose to be blind as to why God did what He did. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 10:54am On Mar 10, 2016 |
ValentineMary:The bible is silent about irrelevant details. How many people were they in Noah's time? It doesnt say. But it clearly states that every one had an opportunity to be saved. The minute details can be conjectured but that's it. The absence of it doesnt invalidate the authority of the scriptures. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 11:04am On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 11:06am On Mar 10, 2016 |
koonbey:Your first paragraph was unnecessary because i had explained that point previously. As for 'atrocities' , list them because those are your subjective judgements on a broad range of issues. Your judgements that don't hold up under objective scrutiny. As for the koran, the message is explicit. I dont need to harp on it. Do your research. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 11:13am On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 11:13am On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 7:01pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo: Very true, they ignore context when it suits them and play dumb when it paints their opponents in a negative light. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by ValentineMary(m): 11:00pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo:Actually it does. Did God communicate with the people of Brazil, Panama, Australia, etc and told them to worship him which they refused or did some deranged Jews invent a God and suddenly wants to world to know about it else they would drown? What of little Jimmy sitting with his dad in the fire place to keep warm somewhere in Canada, did he deserve to die simply because he has never heard of a Jewish God If all these were the work of a God, then Bleep him. 1 Like |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Anas09: 11:55pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
I have a about 30something collection of Ravi's debates with atheists. John Lenox too. i which i know to post them here. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 12:12am On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:Was there panama and brazil in Noah's time? What of lil Jimmy? What of the thousands of Isrealites that got slaughtered when Achan sinned? If Jimmy got drowned then He was a casualty of his parents sin. With sin they are casualties. Oh, and while pitying lil Jimmy, what stopped Jimmy's parent from taking the salvation offered - free entry into the ark, them and their families? And while you are at it - did you read the verse that said the imaginations of mans heart were evil CONTINUALLY? childhood may have been a time for innocence but they grew up into sinful evil adults. God had seen the trend repeatedly. So if He in His sovereignty decided to wipe the entire planet and start again , He was justified. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by ValentineMary(m): 6:50am On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo:Are u kidding me? Of course nations like Panama and Brazil existed at that time. Though they were called different names then. You obviously don't know that Europeans knew of no other nations apart from Europe, some part of Asia and some part of Africa until Ferdinand Magallen famous voyage. So, to the people of Isreal it those places were unexisting while to an all knowing God, how did he get to tell those nations of his glory considering the fact that those nations never heard of Yahweh before the Europeans came around. Or did God just pick a small set of Isreslites and punished the rest of the world for not being in that small set Listen to urself. Religion obviously kills the human conscience. Why should little Jimmy suffer for what he knows nothing about? if Yahweh could do such thing is he still all loving Face it man most of the bible stories are myth and should be treated as such. 1 Like |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by McSterling(m): 7:12am On Mar 11, 2016 |
vooks:Done. Will share my thoughts later. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Oluwaseytiano(m): 7:29am On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo:look at what religion has done to you |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 8:18am On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:the earth was young and still spreading. Bible Historians believe Noah built the ark in 120 years. You are talking of a very looooong time for any one to get 'saved'. Just like today, 2000+ years after Jesus Christ's ressurection, many people have had the opportunity to be saved but have rejected it. Many scoff ,like they scoffed at Noah. History is repeating itself. The parents could have avoided tragedy, by simply entering the ark. Even if they were doubting, they couldve still gotten in if only to laff at Noah's 'hallucination's' in the end. Construction finished. The saw Noah and his family move in, but mocked. Then the rains came... Now, you talking of lil' jimmy. You trying to paint God as unfair- dream on. When there's sin,there's death. When there's judgement,there are casualties. Get used to it. This is the unsavoury truth. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 8:20am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano: your sense of justice/morality is skewed. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by ValentineMary(m): 8:51am On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo:Seriously blind faith is a mockery to human intellect. It is quite shameful that someone like u that believes these things is regarded as tomorrow leader. Then I wonder what tomorrow holds for us. 1 Like |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by asalimpo(m): 9:39am On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary: You are having a hard time coming to terms with the truth. God is'nt looking for popularity votes. But while you are being judgemental and assuming you know better, why dont you keep your analyses balanced? You emphasis the consequence of judgement-babies dying in the flood but ignore the cause of judgement- man's sins and debauchery. You ignore God's avenue for escape- the ark You ignore God's patience and long suffering- the ark took a century+ to build. All the while,unsaved man was being preached to. Keep your analyses balanced, dont just pick and emphasize one aspect only. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by orisa37: 10:33am On Mar 11, 2016 |
I'm a Negro and I have read this and can only jump to the conclusion that I'm not alone in this Universe. So what is the problem, that there is no end to reasoning? In the beginning was The Word, The Word was with God in the beginning and The Word was God, The Supreme Spirit that Atheists are ignorant about. The word atheist is His which He threw out at the Tower of Babel, from where all Humans were separated by language, culture,tongues and characters and into bad and good. Having read this, some one will still say that my God is wicked. That God is the Judge of the wicked and the good. 1 Like |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by orisa37: 10:45am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Atheists don't have Faith. They disbelieve every thing including what they eat or drink. They are just insane fools and scraps of human species. 1 Like |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Oluwaseytiano(m): 11:01am On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo:really? how? |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Oluwaseytiano(m): 11:15am On Mar 11, 2016 |
orisa37:In the beginning. there was chaos. And out of the chaos came the mother earth Gaia. She reached to the sky god Uranus and together, they had children- Cyclops, giants and Titans. One of these Titans name Prometheus was commissioned by Zeus, the king of the gods to create humans. This is the short version of the creation storyline. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 11:28am On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:Thought I told you intelligence is not recycling half-baked semi-logic that predates your great grandparents by centuries. Try and inject some creativity |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by waice6571: 11:28am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano: What is he really saying? The atheist are funny slowpoke. They claim always there is no God but they won't leave Him out of their miserable life . |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 11:30am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Anas09:Thank you Anas09 In what format are they? DVD,MP3 ? |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 11:31am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Once again, here is the book http://www.fairladyz32.com/downloads/christian/books/Ravi%20Zacharias/Ravi%20Zacharias%20-The%20End%20of%20Reason.pdf
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Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Oluwaseytiano(m): 11:45am On Mar 11, 2016 |
waice6571:Atheist are not the one running to the pastor after an headache |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 11:47am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano:How is your Friday coming? |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by Oluwaseytiano(m): 11:50am On Mar 11, 2016 |
vooks:quite good. urs? |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 11:51am On Mar 11, 2016 |
Unlike Harris, Ravi is willing to take the claims of atheism to their logical conclusions. In fact, Ra vi’s own despair from atheism once brought him to the brink of personal destruction. Thus he is able to write not merely as a dispassionate observer, but rather as an impassioned champion of the spiritual truth that rescued him from a life of hopelessness and purposelessness. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by ValentineMary(m): 12:05pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
vooks:As I said earlier, if u can't give a solid reply, pls keep moving. |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 12:08pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:Stick to the claims of the book...but wait; the book needs some minimal intelligence to grasp. So I understand the endless sideshows |
Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by ValentineMary(m): 12:12pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
vooks:I used to think u put up better arguments than this. I am disappointed. |
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