@gabbytabby....I concur with you. For a carcass at that price, Lekki Gardens did the maths and it made sense to them. Thats why they floated the offer, it was greed that wrecked it. For a builder who does not have integrity and believes the customer is to be blamed, they too will one day have their day in court...its turn by turn. The moment you start sacrificing quality for profit then its just a matter of time, it's a ticking time bomb.

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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.......George Santayana (The Life of Reason, 1905)

I simply do not understand this carcass business at all, not even sure why it's allowed really.

So say theres 40 units of carcass, then theoretically there can be 40 crews each working to finish each unit. Seems to be going to be a beehive of activity for a while. How can one possibly enjoy the pursuit of peace and happiness.

Check out this post comparing the scoan and lekki collapse:
https://www.nairaland.com/2978898/lekki-building-collapse-2016-vs#43599744

brabus:

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Happy hour is the time to loosen up, throw jabs and learn new punch lines. Fun time, silly time...

Happy hour used to be d time bars gave discounts on alcoholic beverages (bonanza) to encourage people to get high... until MTN Nigeria hijacked the term.

In d era of high call tariffs, MTN allowed free calls from 00h30 to 04h30 (called MTN happy hour AKA "midnight call" ). Less privileged boys used the talk time to practice toasting babes, while girls used the talk time to gossip boys & fashion. Hence it became synonymous with useless & senseless talk

gabbytabby:
No no not just so cos if lekki knowingly buys at a ridiculous price then the concept of stolen property will be applied if that item was discovered to be stolen or damaged.

Lekki gardens can sue the contractor but remember that they also employed consulants to supervise and certifiy that building is as specified and suitable for purpose. Concept of joint and severally liable comes to play.

Subscribers will hold Lekki Gardens. Then Lekki will hold the consultants and the builder. All those will be CIVIL suits.

However, for the case of manslaughter, Lekki Gardens, the consultant and the builder will all be charged. Each of them will have to demonstrate that they were not negligent. It should not be difficult for the prosecutors to prove that people were killed due to the negligence of those involved.

brabus:
@ NL1960,

There's no point saying too much here. I'll suggest you visit LCC office and ask question about the kick off of the project and how they met stiff resistance from the residents at the inception.

As for the stakeholders meeting, I was in the IT then (working on The Palms, Lekki) and we are always connected with BIG projects. So, LCC was something on mind then. Looking at what we can do together so we were at the meeting to see what's on the blueprint and things that we can do for the concessionaire. I can tell over and over again. LCC never worked in isolation and they were very transparent.

Lot of awareness were created especially on meeting days. Lots of flyers and signs were shared during the construction. And I can make bold statement that we saw the blueprint frm the inception

For those who didn't know, they'll assume they shove Lekki Toll road down our throat. No! We were carried along.

Iam sure that before you built your chateau, you were in a rental property. Did you do any due diligence by way of looking at the structural drawings and others before you paid and packed in?. What of higher institution?. Did you get the structural documents and others before you enter the hostel you were saying or the off-campus accommodation if you were off campus. You are in Sagamu. Can you show us the stakeholders meeting you attended on the Lagos-Sagamu express road.

NL1960:


Iam sure that before you built your chateau, you were in a rental property. Did you do any due diligence by way of looking at the structural drawings and others before you paid and packed in?. What of higher institution?. Did you get the structural documents and others before you enter the hostel you were saying or the off-campus accommodation if you were off campus. You are in Sagamu. Can you show us the stakeholders meeting you attended on the Lagos-Sagamu express road.

Dont mind him so full of himself yet cannot pay maverick the money back for the fake building plan. His here claiming quality and integrity, we know you here very well. Since this LG issue came up brb has been everywhere forming holier thy thou attitude where as he is worse off than LG. He will not workers same as LG, he steals His clients materials from the same site he is supervising, How wicked can one be!

back2sender:

Dont mind him so full of himself yet cannot pay maverick the money back for the fake building plan. His here claiming quality and integrity, we know you here very well. Since this LG issue came up brb has been everywhere forming holier thy thou attitude where as he is worse off than LG. He will not workers same as LG, he steals His clients materials from the same site he is supervising, How wicked can one be!

NL1960:


Iam sure that before you built your chateau, you were in a rental property. Did you do any due diligence by way of looking at the structural drawings and others before you paid and packed in?. What of higher institution?. Did you get the structural documents and others before you enter the hostel you were saying or the off-campus accommodation if you were off campus. You are in Sagamu. Can you show us the stakeholders meeting you attended on the Lagos-Sagamu express road.

Lagos/Ibadan/Sagamu Express road was done by Julius Berger (Baba of Construction). They have their office at Sagamu Interchange and Equipment/Construction Yard 4km away. Meanwhile, the workers stays in the small city.

We knew what to expect from Julius Berger in terms of quality (so there's no need for background check) and funny enough I benefited largely from the scraped up asphalts from the road. The waterlogged part of the chateau was filled up with Lagos/Ibadan scraped up asphalt. In fact, I recommended it also to some of my friends building on Lagos/Ibadan expressway as at that time. Dem dey here dem no go fit talk (I mean the beneficiaries)

The rented apartment where I lived in Sagamu belongs to one of the richest in Remoland (who had over 50 buildings which none has failed structural integrity test) and you don't need a binocular to see the quality of work. The house was built in 1989 but far better than 2015 build of so many. I fit show picture sef if you want.

I didn't attend Julius Berger Stakeholders meeting because I was out of Sagamu when the project was awarded. But even though I wasn't around, I still benefited a bit.
The first job my dump truck did was supply of earth fills on that project before moving it to Lagos in January 2015.

You may want to come and check my backyard to confirm what I used to backfill it. Na Julius Berger deliver am.

Next?

Baba NL1960, pls don't ask me about my place of birth o cos I wouldn't know what to say. But what I do know is that the house where I celebrated my 1st birthday in Oke Bola, Ibadan is still standing strong till date. My church built over 4 decades ago has not failed structural integrity test. My primary school, secondary school .... Someone must have done DD on those because it doesn't cost him anything to do so.

44chux:


Happy hour used to be d time bars gave discounts on alcoholic beverages (bonanza) to encourage people to get high... until MTN Nigeria hijacked the term.

In d era of high call tariffs, MTN allowed free calls from 00h30 to 04h30 (called MTN happy hour AKA "midnight call" ). Less privileged boys used the talk time to practice toasting babes, while girls used the talk time to gossip boys & fashion. Hence it became synonymous with useless & senseless talk

You're right on the money.

diordaves:
@EgunMogaji

What's that non sand filled area of your foundation? If I can remember, you said somewhere that your floor plan includes a "courtyard" or something. Is that the courtyard? Again if I can remember you also talked about an area in your building where you can come out at night to the sky and on a moonlit night but feel secure....Right? So is it like a panic area as in panic room?

What's the roof design for the mentioned area? Are you going to roof the area inline with the entire building or you are not going to roof it to access the sky at night and day? These questions throw a lot of implications and challenges that need careful thought and planning:

If the area is an island courtyard with no roof, did you include in your foundation water drainage from the area? What happens during the rainy seasons? Water accumulates in the void and sip into your foundation if there are no drains. Your foundation will be near permanently wet. A constantly wet foundation is a serious cause for concern. There is also the potential of algae growth on the walls.

If you are going to roof the area, it means the area will be constantly dark, dank and damp without natural sunlight and air circulation. And why did you elect not to sand fill the area? Even if it's a courtyard it has to be at same level with the rest of the house so one does not come out into a "hole".

Follow up.

So as stated, the stage to fill the courtyard has been reached and has been completed.

Next stage is the plumbing to provide a quick egress for the little moisture that will find it's way into the courtyard.

Thanks.

PS: They were supposed to use fine laterite (which they've used before) with no rocks But that's the Nigerian factor, wetin man go do?

brabus:




Lagos/Ibadan/Sagamu Express road was done by Julius Berger (Baba of Construction). They have their office at Sagamu Interchange and Equipment/Construction Yard 4km away. Meanwhile, the workers stays in the small city.

We knew what to expect from Julius Berger in terms of quality (so there's no need for background check) and funny enough I benefited largely from the scraped up asphalts from the road. The waterlogged part of the chateau was filled up with Lagos/Ibadan scraped up asphalt. In fact, I recommended it also to some of my friends building on Lagos/Ibadan expressway as at that time. Dem dey here dem no go fit talk (I mean the beneficiaries)

The rented apartment where I lived in Sagamu belongs to one of the richest in Remoland (who has over 50 buildings which none has failed structural integrity test) and you don't need a binocular to see the quality of work. The house was built in 1989 but far better than 2015 build of so many. I fit show picture sef if you want.

I didn't attend Julius Berger Stakeholders meeting because I was out of Sagamu when the project was awarded. But even though I wasn't around, I still benefited a bit.
The first job my dump truck did was supply of earth fills on that project before moving it to Lagos in January 2015.

You may want to come and check my backyard to confirm what I used to backfill it. Na Julius Berger deliver am.

Next?

Baba NL1960, pls don't ask me about my place of birth o cos I wouldn't know what to say. But what I do know is that the house where I celebrated my 1st birthday in Oke Bola, Ibadan is still standing strong till date. My church built over 4 decades ago has not failed structural integrity test. My primary school, secondary school .... Someone must have done DD on those because it doesn't cost him anything to do so.

Ok. I don hear you.

Btw, was is that you did not do any or enough checks on the guy you gave Maverick money for his approval or was it Maverick that did not do enough checks?.

NL1960:


Ok. I don hear you.

Btw, was is that you did not do any or enough checks on the guy you gave Maverick money for his approval or was it Maverick that did not do enough checks?.

Good kweshion! Mr quality and integrity and MR knowall and Chateau oya come explain yaself here.

NL1960:


Ok. I don hear you.

Btw, was is that you did not do any or enough checks on the guy you gave Maverick money for his approval or was it Maverick that did not do enough checks?.

Opeyemi Sadipe till tomorrow is a staff of the Lagos State Planning Authority. He's at Ikota Office.
I dont just pick people on the road.

You can continue from where I stopped.

His former office (where we first met) was at the Old Liason office at VI before the Lagos State Model City Master Plan was unveiled and they were relocated to Ikota, Lagos. He was recommended to me by an Officer at Eti-Osa Local Government. I hope I've been able to help.

Next?

If you need his number, I can give you. But trust me, I won't do that. Just go and do your DD before you say I gave you a fake number. It won't cost you money.

EgunMogaji:

what is this?..........buhahahaha

Egungun, this is how we roll now.

brabus:
Egungun, this is how we roll now.

Sad, I cry for my people

Iya yi ti npoju.

I wonder what Fela is thinking about all this in is grave.

PS: My idol, Alfa Buhari Omo Musa said it best, Nigeria = Anjiriya.

brabus:


Opeyemi Sadipe till tomorrow is a staff of the Lagos State Planning Authority. He's at Ikota Office.
I dont just pick people on the road.

You can continue from where I stopped.



Next?

If you need his number, I can give you. But trust me, I won't do that. Just go and do your DD before you say I gave you a fake number. It won't cost you money.

You have not answered His question. Did you do an integrity check or not . We are not interested in you mentioning His name or how he was transfered from jerusalam to jericho.
Have you returned Maverick money Since you Seems to know the person very well so it will be easy to get the money back. You mentioned the lekki toll in one of your response, i am going to take you up on that some other time as i dont want to derail this.... Some of us grow up in the street so we know your type very well.

back2sender:

Some of us grow up in the street so we know your type very well.

back2sender, I'm sorry I thought it unnecessary to dignify your comments with a response cos you're a common street guy.

I was going to give you a nasty look... But I see you already had one...

Enjoy your happy hour!

Btw, I was not a common street guy like you, while the Lekki road was been constructed I was rolling with Big Boys in 288B (if you ever know where that is).

PS: Never as an onlooker but a stakeholder. You want to know what it takes to bring Regus to Nigeria about 10 years ago. Ask me about that and not some "what killed bingo" questions? Thats for the street.

Do your DD! Dig me well

brabus:


I was not a common street guy like you

Pimping ain't easy yo

EgunMogaji:


Pimping ain't easy yo

Man I got pimpin in my veins
Pimpin in my blood
Pimpin in my swag
Pimpin in my cup

Recognize I'm the man
I tried to tell em but they won't understand that Pimpin ain't easy

~ R Kelly

Double post

hello all,how many plot of land are there in L×w of 400feet×405feet?

Donswampo:
hello all,how many plot of land are there in L×w of 400feet×405feet?

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brabus:


back2sender, I'm sorry I thought it unnecessary to dignify your comments with a response cos you're a common street guy.

I was going to give you a nasty look... But I see you already had one...

Enjoy your happy hour!

Btw, I was not a common street guy like you, while the Lekki road was been constructed I was rolling with Big Boys in 288B (if you ever know where that is).

PS: Never as an onlooker but a stakeholder. You want to know what it takes to bring Regus to Nigeria about 10 years ago. Ask me about that and not some "what killed bingo" questions? Thats for the street.

Do your DD! Dig me well

I am a street person and i dont;
Steal peoples materials from thier site
I dont sell fake building plan to people
I dont worship stones neither do i put juju in my car and pocket
I dont have shrines scattered all over even up to building shrines in clients that you work for
I dont speak with all sides of the mouth
I dont feel bitter and too big to say sorry when am wrong
I dont go about duping people under the pretence that i am a builder meanwhile building rubbish every where.
I dont plagiarise other peoples work
Epele mr regus regus naa your type dey build bad buildings in town, mr regus regus big boy in nairaland yet cannot returned Maverick chicken change.
Mr regus regus oku Igbe see as you quickly latch on the street tinzs, you are so easy to predict.
Mr regus regus jail abi juju of all trade and master of none (thats why you cant finish any job that was given to you by clients ) slayer of street boyz and importer and exporter of regus regus abi naa promoter. Have you paid Maverick money??. We are not decieved, we know the real builders here and they dont parabulate like olosho here like you do. They maintain thier integrity and show respect here with great contributions and not you a shepe Seller mr regus regus that will not allow us rest with all kind of fake post in other peoples work as yours.
Mr google is your friend.

@ back2sender

I don’t know what makes you so stupid, but I must tell you whatever it is, it really works!

#HappyHour

Brabus behaves like a criminal
He must really be a hardened one
Coming all over here to scam ppl
If you have so much
Go pay maverick
Your mouth stinks when you talk
Mr packager
I pity your next victim

You conduct integrity test on everyone
And you failed same test
Common man go pipe down

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brabus:
THE WORLD’S FIRST LUXURY MARINE STYLE RETREAT IN DUBAI!

The Floating Seahorse is a totally unique concept which has been intelligently designed, engineered and developed in Dubai. The Floating Seahorse is essentially a boat not a villa.

Read more here:
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How do you handle toilet waste?

EgunMogaji:

How do you handle toilet waste?

Fed to the fish... abi.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Fed to the fish... abi.

Hajji M.

I don't think so Hajj because they said

"According to a Kleindienst Group press release, the name of the project is connected to protecting sea life in the Persian Gulf : "We will create an artificial coral reef beneath the luxury retreats which will be a protected area in which seahorses can safely live and breed ," the company said."

But what do I know, maybe dem Sea Horses thrive on human poo

They stole the idea from rednecks though