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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by sundoj08(m): 3:17am On Mar 15, 2016
ikechuk0:


Dude I live in USA. I've moved around the states in USA, majority of the food USA is imported from Mexico. Unlike Nigeria, USA actually stamp each product they sell. Anyone that tell you, USA export more than they import in terms of food is lying to you. Any data you read that on is lying to you. I know this for cause I've been around the states in USA and it's the same pattern in all the states I've lived in. Even the most self producing states of USA aka Florida and Texas is dominated by Latinos thus, no doubt that's why those states are the most producing states in USA. The only thing USA is self suciffient in is their meat production. That's it.

Dude get your facts right. The U.S. produces most of it's own food and even exports a lot of it. The only foods imported are stuffs that can't be grown here e.g coffee erc. It's funny how u think the U.S will survive by importing food considering that the U.S. populace are the highest food consumers in the world.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by sundoj08(m): 3:19am On Mar 15, 2016
Duru1:


Are you sure you have set foot in USA? USA imports agricultural products from South American countries especially tropical products for certain reasons. One instance is to help the economy of those countries exporting the products. One wonders why people from Mexico, Central and South American countries are crashing the USA borders to form farm hands. No country is actually self-sufficient hence international trade. However, USA is one of the few countries on earth that can feed itself.


Exactly pls tell him before he misguides a whole lotta folks. Menace2society pls take note and don't let some dude feed u garbage

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by iyb(m): 3:20am On Mar 15, 2016
Northern Nigeria has more mineral resources than southern Nigeria even the oil that the south are so proud of is found in the north they are oil deposits in the Lake Chad basin. When it comes to agriculture whether you like it or not the north feeds the country if food stops pouring from the north to the south it won't take long before food becomes very expensive in the south after all southerners tend to put prices higher for their goods than the north.
Tin,columbite,iron,bauxite, gold, sapphire, limestone etc
Gum Arabic,cashew, groundnut, cotton, moringa, ginger, chilli, tomatoes, banana, oranges, Apple, strawberry, grapes,mangoes, yam,sweet cassava wheat,maize,millet in fact most agricultural produce of Nigeria come from the north.followed by the south west
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MIKOLOWISKA: 3:24am On Mar 15, 2016
san316:
The social media senator himself.

However, I agree with him. The south believes because oil comes from the south and Nigeria depends on oil, the north is dependent on them.

Fact is, the average northerner does not even benefit from oil money, they mostly live off agriculture, business and menial jobs.

The so called southerners who claim to be feeding the nation have no input whatsoever to the economy other than the fact that the resources were naturally deposited in their region.
correction. Northern politicians depend on oil

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by atoleybaba(m): 6:01am On Mar 15, 2016
medpren:


Listen Oga, you can not outpreach the 'one nigeria' preaching i have done for the past 15 years before the 2015 election. I'm a public speaker and a youth leader in a popular volunteer organization.

We've pretended for too long and it's time to face the truth, WE ARE SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE. I'm an Igbo, you are Yoruba, Musa is Hausa.
The hausa man believe i'm a 'kaffir' whose house should be burnt and relatives killed, now what do i do? Keep preaching to him as he cuts off my neck. Do you know that hausaland which is in nigeria is one of the most dangerous place IN THE WORLD for a christian like me to live? and i should still keep preaching peace to him as he slaughters me in a country that is supposed to be mine too? Are you daft?

Enough of the deceit, let's face the truth, the country in chaotic will different interest pulling it from every angle. If something good is proposed for the Igbo, the Yorubas find a way to kill their conscience and destroy it, If a project is to be sited in the SS, hausas go to the National Assembly and shoot it down. Chaos evereywhere!

The Pope loves everybody even the muslims but that doesn't mean the Vatican and Saudi have the same political future.

Enough of the deceit, farm on your own land and let me farm on mine. WE DO NOT HAVE ONE DESTINY WITH THE HAUSAS AND YORUBAS. Our placentas are not tied together. Let us peacefully undo the lugardian evil like normal humans with brains and save humanity from a possible humanitarian crisis. There is no law written in Gold that i must share the country with Yorubas and Hausas.
Let's call it quit and save precious lives. Unity is not by force!
no say am not daft...I understand ur points but u don't get mine. Am not saying if we stay together there will be peace. There will never be peace(Na d bible talk am) going ur separate ways self won't bring peace it will only bring more problem I can bet that (d bible talk am) what am only trying to say is look forward to God's kingdom where u all will live together in peace
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by billyG(m): 6:17am On Mar 15, 2016
3xtr6r:


Lies of hypocrisy and propaganda from a parasitic ingrate to divert attention from the very obvious!

It's preposterous the extent a group of confused lots would lie and spread wicked propaganda just to share a mere geographical expression with the same Igbo Nation they have nothing but hatred and envy for. It indeed defies all logics known to humanity!

https://www.nairaland.com/2535543/why-yorubas-afraid-biafra-actualization

https://www.nairaland.com/2839356/kemi-olunloyo-blasts-illiterate-yorubas

https://www.nairaland.com/2668808/opinion-todays-yoruba-youths-too

If you really passed through the four walls of a tertiary institution you would have known that every group of people in the world is entitled to self-determination.

https://www.nairaland.com/2708477/oil-producing-states-nigeria-facts/9

Igbos are not interested in anything Yoruba. Yorubas are free to merge themselves with any group in Nigeria. It's a free world!

Yorubas and their partners in crime cannot dictate for Igbos on how self-determination should be carried out to suit Yorubas interest and narratives when many Yorubas are wallowing in illiteracy, abject poverty and squalor.

A people who are barely existing cannot dictate to another how to live their lives!

https://www.nairaland.com/2769778/osun-state-now-failed-state

https://www.nairaland.com/2125679/yorubas-traitors-dont-care-loss

https://www.nairaland.com/2692549/only-bark-land-wont-dare

If indeed one state in Yorubaland produces oil than the whole of SE, while would miserable bigots like you currently earn a living on pay-per-post basis just to attempt to quench the call for self-determination by Igbos?

https://www.nairaland.com/2967468/yorubas-now-disgrace-awolowos-education

BTW, what kind of deluded people think that bile-filled hatred is their way of displaying love and therefore expect others to appreciate such evil?

If Yoruba elites believe in 'One Nigeria' they wouldn't hustle to have dual passports and sending their children abroad to live and school with our commonwealth.

If 'One Nigeria' apologists like you are willing to risk their life for their country the way the Biafrans are doing now, Nigeria would have been a better place.

I shall reveal your latent fear: the fear of Fulanis plundering your entire land, islamisation, no free crude oil wealth and eventual low economic activities in your land once BFR emerges.

Yorubas desparately want Easterners to remain in this fraudulent union so that they can help them wade off Dan Fodio's descendants whenever they recommence their jihad.

Wake up from your delusion, the 1966 charms of propaganda and lies against Igbos is no longer working. Your once poisonous fangs has lost its potency.

That your Yoruba folks rarely stand for anything should not be an excuse for you to come in the public to castigate Igbos for seeking to have a separate existence. You shouldn't expect Easterners to follow foolish ways of delusion. 

Leave Igbos out of your home troubles. Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for!
only 2 likes 4 all this thesis?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by 9jii(m): 6:19am On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:
Ben Bruce makes me laugh with this postulation. Are the Notherners giving us this food for free? But the Northerers are taking the proceeds of oil for free in the name of 'one Nigeria'. The South does not depend on the north for anything, if there was no Northern Nigeria, us in the South would buy food from other countries like Cameroon,Benin Republic, Ghana etc and life would go on. But if there was no Southern Nigeria, only God knows what would have happend to the North by now.
so for all the school u are claiming u don't know the problems of total depending of food import from other countries?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by kingzizzy: 6:38am On Mar 15, 2016
9jii:

so for all the school u are claiming u don't know the problems of total depending of food import from other countries?


The importation of food may come with problems but that is not the topic here. What Ben Bruce is saying is that without the North, the South has no source of food which is a complete lie.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 7:42am On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:
Northern Nigeria has more mineral resources than southern Nigeria even the oil that the south are so proud of is found in the north they are oil deposits in the Lake Chad basin. When it comes to agriculture whether you like it or not the north feeds the country if food stops pouring from the north to the south it won't take long before food becomes very expensive in the south after all southerners tend to put prices higher for their goods than the north.
Tin,columbite,iron,bauxite, gold, sapphire, limestone etc
Gum Arabic,cashew, groundnut, cotton, moringa, ginger, chilli, tomatoes, banana, oranges, Apple, strawberry, grapes,mangoes, yam,sweet cassava wheat,maize,millet in fact most agricultural produce of Nigeria come from the north.followed by the south west
Carry your food go we dont want,
Just one oil well in the south can buy 10 giant groundnuts pyramids.
If the north was to pay for all our oil they hv stolen since 1957, even till 2200 u ppl would still be in debts.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 7:45am On Mar 15, 2016
9jii:

so for all the school u are claiming u don't know the problems of total depending of food import from other countries?
The south can grow all the crops found in the north we naturally hv all year rainfall, we are d ones who cut our own grass becomes it comes naturally, even your Fulani herdsmen there is a reason why they hv been coming vsouth, dont believe what Bruce is saying he just want to win the heart of the north maybe he intends going for President.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MENELIK1: 7:50am On Mar 15, 2016
Evil child of south evil, which moon did you drop from? In the last govt. of Jonathan, how many Yorubas did we have from no 1 to 4 then? yet they believe in one Nigeria, where was the IPOB albino then? Yorubas don't claim people it is only the people from the erosion ravaged enclave who love claiming other people especially when they are successful. Jonathan will become Azikiwe Ebele because he is the president, niger deltans will be cousins to Biafra because of crude oil. Please don't just go there, we are not like you. The Yoruba race is plus or minus anybody irrespective of your status in life.


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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 7:53am On Mar 15, 2016
menxer:


How do you mean?

Which state in the south produces tomatoes, onions, beans, cattle, etc that we consume on daily basis?

Don't let political bias cloud your out look...
Tomatoes, onions, beans is what you call contributions?
The south can wake up and decide to produce them any day, but even if the north likes let it go nd fast for oil in mecca one drop wud never be found der, d blood of innocent people from the south has dried up all there oil.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:53am On Mar 15, 2016
mu2sa2:
And oil cannot be imported easily? ****

Pls are u minding these pple. As if we dont import oil now.

They keep forgetting how d military starved their pple during the civil war. They havent experienced it, dts why they say food is not important.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 7:56am On Mar 15, 2016
nagoma:


So what does Biafra produce ? It is just a tiny overpopupulated enclave with more people emigrating from it, than those staying. The small percentage of soil that escapes gulley erosion is still unsuitable for agriculture. The people , in their history, have never learnt to tame and breed animals for food , they depend on bush meat. So how is the north dependent on the SE?
See dz one then why is it over ur dead body to let them go?
If u one to know amongst Biafra and arewa which one is useless, let Arewa even if its by joke or mistake say they want to seceed, i promise u even Yoruba's wud be fasting and praying that you guys dont change ur mind.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by EasternActivist: 7:58am On Mar 15, 2016
janellemonae:


Pls are u minding these pple. As if we dont import oil petrol, gas, kerosene now.

They keep forgetting how d military starved their pple during the civil war. They havent experienced it, dts why they say food is not important.

Nigeria get oil from the south for free and give you northerners as allocation from it also for free.

We don't say that food ain't important. What we are saying is that all those foods you think you have can be grown here in commercial quantities.
We have arable lands and mineral resources.
So what do we need the north for...?

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:59am On Mar 15, 2016
henry49:
Is it by force to stay as one Nigeria? Yorubas of today believe in one Nigeria because Osinbajo is Vice Pres. Believe me, when Buhari replaces him with a non-Yoruba, they'll tell you '' Oti oo Nnamdi Kanu is our boy, he was born in ILE OFE mmanu, his father is my nephew's brother's mother's cousin'' Bro, why the hypocrisy? The Igbos want to leave the Federation. Or, better still, let's go for confederalism! If you're complacent with one Nigeria, then remain with the Hausa Fulani. It's only the very few among you that perceive danger lurking ahead. Why bad-mouth IPOB?




All these ur rants are full of LIES. If the yorubas are only supporting osinbajo, why didnt they ever call for seccession under jonathan. Or under Ahmadu Bello, Shagari, Babangida or Abacha. So it is because of osinbajo they will no longer believe in one nigeria. When these govt starts misbehaving it is d same yorubas dt will kick buhari and osinbajo out.

LMAO! Bunch of fraudsters. I wonder who believes all these lies u spew.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 8:00am On Mar 15, 2016
janellemonae:


Pls are u minding these pple. As if we dont import oil now.

They keep forgetting how d military starved their pple during the civil war. They havent experienced it, dts why they say food is not important.
Yes because that same military was bombing farmlands, its even obvious as seen during boko haram fight in the northeast, the north produces enuf food yet the military was still able to starve the boko haram in the north east, not only dat the north produces enuf food and ur people are dragging for crumbs in IDPs.
Mtcheeew

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 8:03am On Mar 15, 2016
janellemonae:


All these ur rants are full of LIES. If the yorubas are only supporting osinbajo, why didnt they ever call for seccession under jonathan. Or under Ahmadu Bello, Shagari, Babangida or Abacha. So it is because of osinbajo they will no longer believe in one nigeria. When these govt starts misbehaving it is d same yorubas dt will kick buhari and osinbajo out.

LMAO! Bunch of fraudsters. I wonder who believes all these lies u spew.
Who doesnt know that u Yoruba's are the real parasites to the term One Nigeria.
Even if Osinbajo is killed today, u parasites wont leave because u know that u people wud be worse off than ur kins in Benin republic and togo.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by christopher123(m): 8:05am On Mar 15, 2016
ChoCandyDiamond:

Guy you just dey for forum from morning till night dey rant, go look for job ooo, no just dey house dey eat your mama food, Yoruba this, Igbo that no dey put food for somebody table, go look for something doing and become beneficial

Easy on him....we know them
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 8:10am On Mar 15, 2016
booqee:
nothing would have happened to the north.. remember the days of old when there was no oil? ..our major source of revenue was agriculture.. which majority was even coming from the north. surprisingly the economy was far better than now the 'period of oil'.

indomie generation sha...
Our major source of revenue was agriculture which every region contributed to.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by engrchykae(m): 8:12am On Mar 15, 2016
Ben bruce is thinking the unimaginable.he is soliciting for the support of the North for his presidential ambition on twitter of course.
Deceiving himself that he looks like obama.
Mark my words Mr Ben Bruce who cannot be man enough in the national assembly but a warrior on twitter cannot be good in the aso rock.
His type keeps playing the ostrich.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by fio(m): 8:30am On Mar 15, 2016
sanandreas:
why do nigeria shiver when there is crash in oil prices? Are you being paid at the national assembly with groundnut or fura proceeds? You just make it look as if southerner don't farm. Even with the so called food produce in the north, the living condition there is unbearable. Early in the morning you would see children carrying bowl moving from house to house to beg for food. common sense is not actually common. where did Ben bruce leave his?


they will beg with or without oil
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by donJ2(m): 8:32am On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:
Ben Bruce makes me laugh with this postulation. Are the Notherners giving us this food for free? But the Northerers are taking the proceeds of oil for free in the name of 'one Nigeria'. The South does not depend on the north for anything, if there was no Northern Nigeria, us in the South would buy food from other countries like Cameroon,Benin Republic, Ghana etc and life would go on. But if there was no Southern Nigeria, only God knows what would have happend to the North by now.

God bless you.... Indeed Ben Bruce needs common sense....

Not that I support disintegration of the country, buh tellin me that the North's Agric can sustain their economy without oil is so untrue...

Wat bruce is tellin me is that if I make millions of dollars daily from exporting oil, that I cant afford to buy all d food in d North...its a total lie Mr. Bruce.

Case study, Onitsha stopped accepting tomatoes in Onitsha, so all the trailers of tomatoes land in Enugu, today a painter of tomato is N250.00 can u imagine..so cheap.

Dont underestimate oil money...if Nigeria didnt have oil, Dangote wont be the richest man in Africa...its d ripple effect of Oil money.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by codemaniacs: 8:32am On Mar 15, 2016
sundoj08:


In spite of all the aforementioned, you didn't address the main reasons for the argument which are
1. Do southerners think the North offers nothing in the country Nigeria.

2. Do southerners believe the North cannot survive without the oil.

Answer is a candid Yes to both questions.

Truth is that school of thought is very flawed.

1. The North provides the majority of food consumed in the south which means they are contributing agriculturally at the very least.

2. History shows Nigeria's economy thrived better when the country was dependent on agriculture and it wasn't until the oil boom that the Nigerian govt started running on *oil money* simply because it's easy money so to speak.

You have to understand that if oil dries up this instant, the North will not collapse and neither will the south but the south will have a harder time dealing with it and would need a major overhaul to put in place structures to generate income from other largely ignored sources.

About having a one Nigeria after such event is a whole other can of worms.

the north does not contribute anything... they don't have land for agriculture... Benue and other central Nigerian states are not in the north. it is called north central because of political reasons, they were part of southern Nigeria when Nigeria consisted of north and south protectorates..
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by codemaniacs: 8:45am On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

Who doesnt know that u Yoruba's are the real parasites to the term One Nigeria.
Even if Osinbajo is killed today, u parasites wont leave because u know that u people wud be worse off than ur kins in Benin republic and togo.

the yorubas work and develop their land... after the SS and SE oil its lagos, then ogun and oyo that sustains Nigeria. you should read the story of usman dan fodio you'll know the north will never allow any southern go peacefully...

usman dan fodio or one of the northern leaders allegedly claimed that he had dream that a day will come when northerners will need passports and other identification to come to the south... till date every northern leader has that same fear.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by menxer: 8:50am On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

Tomatoes, onions, beans is what you call contributions?
The south can wake up and decide to produce them any day, but even if the north likes let it go nd fast for oil in mecca one drop wud never be found der, d blood of innocent people from the south has dried up all there oil.

i guess political and ethnic sentiments has clouded you mind.
As Ben Bruce said "we need cooperation", there are some things (plants/animals) that can't produce in the south too, even if you fast and pray in Jerusalem.

The point is, the pride of "our oil" won't let us pick any farm implement and do farm work.
Being a farmer takes a level of humility that is lacking among us in south (not subsistence farming).

Nigeria is a nation with two hands (north and south), can a man bathe himself with just his left hand, satisfactorily?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by gragraboy: 8:51am On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:
Ben Bruce makes me laugh with this postulation. Are the Notherners giving us this food for free? But the Northerers are taking the proceeds of oil for free in the name of 'one Nigeria'. The South does not depend on the north for anything, if there was no Northern Nigeria, us in the South would buy food from other countries like Cameroon,Benin Republic, Ghana etc and life would go on. But if there was no Southern Nigeria, only God knows what would have happend to the North by now.
Should they give you the food for free before?!.....morongus idotata!
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 8:54am On Mar 15, 2016
menxer:


i guess political and ethnic sentiments has clouded you mind.
As Ben Bruce said "we need cooperation", there are some things (plants/animals) that can't produce in the south too, even if you fast and pray in Jerusalem.

The point is, the pride of "our oil" won't let us pick any farm implement and do farm work.
Being a farmer takes a level of humility that is lacking among us in south (not subsistence farming).

Nigeria is a nation with two hands (north and south), can a man bathe himself with just his left hand, satisfactorily?
I still stand to my word anything produced in the north can be produced 10times better in the south and cheaper, no irrigation or need for fertilizers because our soil is naturally fertile, with all year rainfall, if it gets too bad all doz ab0kis from Niger wud work as labourers in our farms in the south.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MrEverest(m): 9:01am On Mar 15, 2016
Standing5:
Level of education and IQ low? You must be kidding. Keep parading your worthless oil. The North has her most basic needs catered for, it is the south who depends on them. Go read about USA's recession of the 1930 thereabout. It got to a stage the farmers where virtually the onlx ones having good enuf meal. Some people were ready to serve the farmers in various capacity but were rejected as the skill and product they offered weren't critical to survival. You still behind the North in terms of dependence on other region. Apply your IQ and education, then google ''the great depression in America'' and then read it up.
Smh at your foolhardiness! S.Arabia, UAE, Qarter are all desert wastelands but oil rich, now how is their economy? Can you compare them with Congo that have vast arable jungle? Even the South is doing well in terms of Agriculture, industry, education, human resources, access to sea etc! Stop deciev'n yourself, North will be impoverished as a country!
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by 9jii(m): 9:01am On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

The south can grow all the crops found in the north we naturally hv all year rainfall, we are d ones who cut our own grass becomes it comes naturally, even your Fulani herdsmen there is a reason why they hv been coming vsouth, dont believe what Bruce is saying he just want to win the heart of the north maybe he intends going for President.
yes north too have oil.
but y didn't you grow all.
empty brag.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 9:02am On Mar 15, 2016
9jii:

yes north too have oil.
but y didn't you grow all.
empty brag.
The north too hv oil in ur dream?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by 9jii(m): 9:02am On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:



The importation of food may come with problems but that is not the topic here. What Ben Bruce is saying is that without the North, the South has no source of food which is a complete lie.
u are very good at misunderstanding.be careful

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