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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by 3xtr6r: 11:34am On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

the average northerner doesn't care about your biafra you can go and have it. if nigeria should break up today the igbo tribe will be hit worse they are the ones that don't stay in their region, they are the ones that invest elsewhere and they always like to make it seem like they will cooperate with each other once birafra is realized.
in reality they will not stay together south south wont tolerate their controlling nature after all its not igbo that have oil all they have is red sand and goats.

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Austin4lif:
if not for the Grace of God I would have been death by the Fulani/hausa machine guns. Heavy machine Guns was shot in my area for 3 hours, no police and army from the Z00 come to help us. We have to use cutlass and stones to defend ourselves. It would have been a disaster even though we lost some gallant igbo youths who fought them with some northern Christians. The machine Guns shake houses wen fired, even the army don't have such guns but youths still confronted them. Nobody is asking who bought the Guns for them, can a koro seller or a tomato seller afford to buy SMG? Some silly pple will come here and be shouting one Nigeria , sai Buhari. Go to Riyom in plateau state, go to Rigasa in kaduna, go to wadel in kano state, u will know that we are not one Nigeria.

Austin4lif:
Am never a Fan of this Kalu of a guy, what am concerned of is the northern domination of the minority groups in Nigeria. If you visit Kano, u will see hausa people claiming the birth right of Nigeria.

Those from the east,west and south are being regarded as foreigners in same Nigeria in Kano state. You dont have equal rights like those who are from there. Travel to Zamfara state, u will see the highest level of religious intolerance. The state school of health is an epitome of islamabad, Christians especially the girls were forced to put on Hijab b4 entering class. 

Who says that it is only Boko haram that want to force us to islam? Travel also to katsina state were it is a sin to be called igbo or a Christian even though there are minority christians from that state who are known as the"maguzawa" go to kebbi you will not have permit to build ur church and u will be harassed to pay tax by the local authorities even though hausa people are not goood in paying for Govt facilities. 
Only in Nigeria u will see Emirs with exotic cars and nobody is asking how did they get the money even though many of our igwe's and oba's don't even own a car.
Is only in Nigeria most mosques dnt pay NEPA bill and water Bills. Only in Nigeria will u see a particular ethnic group dominating all the sectors of the economy...

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Jaydenphoenix: 11:40am On Mar 15, 2016
badnature:
oga shettap! if you don't know what to say you keep quiet,igbos import most of the food consume in the ZOO,ask the CBN of the ZOO the will tell you how many dollars is spent on buying food from outside.every baboons and monkeys is jumping up and down claiming the north has agriculture,if that is the case WHY are the northerners not well FEED?.We may be black but we don't reason like baboons and monkeys

Interesting but doesn't make sense.
If igbos import the food, how come I don't see them selling it in markets. I'm referring to onions, tomatoes, pepper, potatoes.

Or igbos import them & sell them to Hausa?

Don't be stupid.....

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by EasternActivist: 11:46am On Mar 15, 2016
Jaydenphoenix:


Interesting but doesn't make sense.
If igbos import the food, how come I don't see them selling it in markets. I'm referring to onions, tomatoes, pepper, potatoes.

Or igbos import them & sell them to Hausa?

Don't be stupid.....

Where I stay, Igbos, Hausa's,Yoruba's, Ibibio,ijaw,kanuri and some other ethnicities sells food stuffs like the aforementioned...

Abeg talk another thing...
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by edoyad(m): 11:46am On Mar 15, 2016
See the kind of comments I'm reading here, the Nigerian education system is in dire need of help.
FYI, Ben Bruce doesn't want to rule this country, at least from what I can deduce. He's just dissapointed that he was born and will die in a country with so much potential but lacking in intellectual minds that would make common sense decisions.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by EasternActivist: 11:55am On Mar 15, 2016
edoyad:
See the kind of comments I'm reading here, the Nigerian education system is in dire need of help.
FYI, Ben Bruce doesn't want to rule this country, at least from what I can deduce. He's just dissapointed that he was born and will die in a country with so much potential but lacking in intellectual minds that would make common sense decisions.

I'm highly disappointed in your submission.
How can you make the mistake of making a silly generalization.
One tends to wonder if there is any comparison between common sense decisions and advanced sensible decisions.

Please try and differentiate the two, both ain't comparable.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by 7lives: 11:55am On Mar 15, 2016
ziccoit:
Only the blind individual who is suffering from chronic paucity of knowledge would carry such a stupid notion about a group of people especially the Notherners. I don't know why Mr Ben didn't call a spade a spade and put it that some SSners and SEners should receive a proper education and stop the chronic hatred they have for the Northerners.
Majority of what's being said about Northerners are borne out of nothing but hatred for those people.

They shall know the truth and it shall set them free.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by menxer: 11:56am On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

Hv u been to the north before?
Or hv u lost relatives to the north before?
If not then keep quiet.

what was the discussion about?
You can't argue your point without resorting to insults?
Smh.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 12:00pm On Mar 15, 2016
menxer:


what was the discussion about?
You can't argue your point with resorting to insults?
Smh.
D north contributes nothing to Nigeria, apart from steal our resources in the guise that they are giving us food, let them keep there food we don't want and let us keep our resources.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 12:08pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:
People calling the north parasites while in reality the very foundation of this country was built by money generated from the north and the south West. Was it oil money that built the railways, the refineries,the highways of the past. If we are talking about stealing oil who are the ones stealing your oil is it not u bunkering your own oil ,busting pipelines causing oil spillage,kidnapping oil workers or is it still northerners doing that for you.
The oil producing region is home to some of the laziest people on earth all they know how to do is drink ogogoro and cause trouble.
Leave us like that and go and face ur cows, is dat too much to ask?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by menxer: 12:27pm On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

D north contributes nothing to Nigeria, apart from steal our resources in the guise that they are giving us food, let them keep there food we don't want and let us keep our resources.

Did you noticed the irony?
Are the northerners not inside the "our"?

Are you insinuating resource control?

If yes, when Attah, the then governor of Akwa Ibom State, was campaigning for resource control how many SS, SE or SW governors were on his side on the matter?

Then it was thought to be an Akwa Ibom State problem, abi?

Una neva chi chum chin

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by SirShymexx: 12:37pm On Mar 15, 2016
sundoj08:


In spite of all the aforementioned, you didn't address the main reasons for the argument which are
1. Do southerners think the North offers nothing in the country Nigeria.

2. Do southerners believe the North cannot survive without the oil.

Answer is a candid Yes to both questions.

Truth is that school of thought is very flawed.

1. The North provides the majority of food consumed in the south which means they are contributing agriculturally at the very least.

2. History shows Nigeria's economy thrived better when the country was dependent on agriculture and it wasn't until the oil boom that the Nigerian govt started running on *oil money* simply because it's easy money so to speak.

You have to understand that if oil dries up this instant, the North will not collapse and neither will the south but the south will have a harder time dealing with it and would need a major overhaul to put in place structures to generate income from other largely ignored sources.

About having a one Nigeria after such event is a whole other can of worms.

There is absolutely nothing flawed in both school of thoughts cos survival in this context would be subjective. Since countries like Niger and Chad aren't extinct, I'm sure the North would and be on the same level as those countries. However, it would be one of the poorest countries in Africa and heavily dependent on foreign aids. It won't have the luxury it has now whereby it gets a lot of freebies for contributing almost nothing.

Also, the South in this context would have to be the oil producing states and if they can harness what they have without leeches, that region can become one of the richest in the world.

So saying the North isn't dependent on the South is laughable. You can also take out natural resources and look at human resources and you would see that Southern Nigeria is Nigeria. Most people don't even look at Northern Nigerians as Nigerians - that's the general perception in Nigerian diaspora.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by iyb(m): 1:29pm On Mar 15, 2016
codemaniacs:


there were cotton trees in my school in lagos. its only groundnut they had in abundance in the past not today. cocoa house was built in 1972 in ibadan from proceeds gotten from cocoa.

what did the proceeds from groundnut build that u can point to till date. abuja was built with proceeds from the south crude oil.
does abuja belong to the north alone they are equal number of southerners in abuja. its the capital for crying out loud the average northerner hates going to abuja because of their expensive lifestyle yet here you are spewing your mouth talking rubbish a local champion will always reveal himself no matter where he goes. Go out and experience the world let it set you free from your ignorant believes
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by iyb(m): 1:35pm On Mar 15, 2016
SirShymexx:


There is absolutely nothing flawed in both school of thoughts cos survival in this context would be subjective. Since countries like Niger and Chad aren't extinct, I'm sure the North would and be on the same level as those countries. However, it would be one of the poorest countries in Africa and heavily dependent on foreign aids. It won't have the luxury it has now whereby it gets a lot of freebies for contributing almost nothing.

Also, the South in this context would have to be the oil producing states and if they can harness what they have without leeches, that region can become one of the richest in the world.

So saying the North isn't dependent on the South is laughable. You can also take out natural resources and look at human resources and you would see that Southern Nigeria is Nigeria. Most people don't even look at Northern Nigerians as Nigerians - that's the general perception in Nigerian diaspora.
why will they look at northerners as nigerians it is only southerners that are nigerians. Northerners dont show themselves outside nigeria they are not caught stealing,scamming,drug dealing all the worse shit that comes out of nigeria suprise it is the civilized nigerians undecided that do it.\
lets see whether you will deny your heritage and say igbos dont scam,steal and deal drugs foolish nincompoop angry
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by SirShymexx: 1:46pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

why will they look at northerners as nigerians it is only southerners that are nigerians. Northerners dont show themselves outside nigeria they are not caught stealing,scamming,drug dealing all the worse shit that comes out of nigeria suprise it is the civilized nigerians undecided that do it.\
lets see whether you will deny your heritage and say igbos dont scam,steal and deal drugs foolish nincompoop angry

No it is about that. It is about the fact that Notherners act like freaking Arabs with zero identity. They don't even act like Africans/blacks.

That is the same way some Arab slaves on here want the finance minister to cover her hair. What type of fvcked up mentality is that? Northerners are just Arab clones in black skin.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by darqly(m): 2:30pm On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:


And what has that got to do with being dependent on the north? I still stand by what I say that the north contributes nothing to Nigeria

This is entirely your opinion. Kindly let me know when the south commences importation of beef and grains from Argentina and Midwestern USA respectively. Then you will have irrefutable proof that the north contributes nothing to Nigeria. undecided
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by darqly(m): 2:43pm On Mar 15, 2016
SirShymexx:


Most people don't even look at Northern Nigerians as Nigerians - that's the general perception in Nigerian diaspora.

Amazing assertion! So kindly share with us ignorant ones, what do Northern Nigerians look like in diaspora?
And in which diaspora did you carry out your research too? And to think you're supposedly a superior southerner, with such a warped notion angry
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Goodharoun: 3:30pm On Mar 15, 2016
kingzizzy:
Ben Bruce makes me laugh with this postulation. Are the Notherners giving us this food for free? But the Northerers are taking the proceeds of oil for free in the name of 'one Nigeria'. The South does not depend on the north for anything, if there was no Northern Nigeria, us in the South would buy food from other countries like Cameroon,Benin Republic, Ghana etc and life would go on. But if there was no Southern Nigeria, only God knows what would have happend to the North by now.

[size=8pt]Kingziggy, ur analysis would have been more logical and fact-driven if u have actually prophesied what would have happened to the North were there no South coexisting with them. Please try and be more critical and objective like Senator Bruce.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Nobody: 3:35pm On Mar 15, 2016
edoyad:


Now whose argument should I support, that of Bruce, successful business man and senator who employs over a thousand people, or you, anonymous poster on NL?

Anonymous poster who doesn't have any political benefit at stake or a Senator who political correctness and balancing should be his job??
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Nobody: 3:49pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

why will they look at northerners as nigerians it is only southerners that are nigerians. Northerners dont show themselves outside nigeria they are not caught stealing,scamming,drug dealing all the worse shit that comes out of nigeria suprise it is the civilized nigerians undecided that do it.\
lets see whether you will deny your heritage and say igbos dont scam,steal and deal drugs foolish nincompoop angry


Very painful something.

Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 3:56pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

does abuja belong to the north alone they are equal number of southerners in abuja. its the capital for crying out loud the average northerner hates going to abuja because of their expensive lifestyle yet here you are spewing your mouth talking rubbish a local champion will always reveal himself no matter where he goes. Go out and experience the world let it set you free from your ignorant believes
Abuja belongs to who then, is abuja in the north or South?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 3:59pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

why will they look at northerners as nigerians it is only southerners that are nigerians. Northerners dont show themselves outside nigeria they are not caught stealing,scamming,drug dealing all the worse shit that comes out of nigeria suprise it is the civilized nigerians undecided that do it.\
lets see whether you will deny your heritage and say igbos dont scam,steal and deal drugs foolish nincompoop angry
Unlike an average northerner who loves terrorism and blood, if not for Nigeria and all the criminal privileges u northerners gave urself we igbos wud be too busy achieving feats in Africa, but u bunch of quick sands has turned everybody down south out of impoverishing them to criminals.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 4:03pm On Mar 15, 2016
darqly:


This is entirely your opinion. Kindly let me know when the south commences importation of beef and grains from Argentina and Midwestern USA respectively. Then you will have irrefutable proof that the north contributes nothing to Nigeria. undecided
If u guys leave us alone down south even if its for one year, we wud hv money to buy enuf beef from ur criminal allocations and putting ourselves together that we wud even be giving out free beefs to the north on out of charity.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by iyb(m): 4:12pm On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

Abuja belongs to who then, is abuja in the north or South?
Abuja is a no mans land belonging to the federal government and the reason why abuja is the capital is because its the center of nigeria.
if nigeria should split today most probably Kano or Kaduna will be the capital of northern nigeria not abuja.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by darqly(m): 4:13pm On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

If u guys leave us alone down south even if its for one year, we wud hv money to buy enuf beef from ur criminal allocations and putting ourselves together that we wud even be giving out free beefs to the north on out of charity.

grin grin grin Nobody is holding you guys oh! Just stop buying the cows we send from Northeast FIRST. Hunger go kee some peeps grin grin
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by Ababadada: 4:15pm On Mar 15, 2016
Then let go for resource control and see how far it goes
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 4:17pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

Abuja is a no mans land belonging to the federal government and the reason why abuja is the capital is because its the center of nigeria.
if nigeria should split today most probably Kano or Kaduna will be the capital of northern nigeria not abuja.
Tell that to outsiders who dont know anything about Nigeria, u people think you can deceive anybody, abuja which no mans land, continue with what u are doing every day for the thief one day for the owner, i ask again is abuja in the north or south?
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by iyb(m): 4:21pm On Mar 15, 2016
MyGeneration:

Unlike an average northerner who loves terrorism and blood, if not for Nigeria and all the criminal privileges u northerners gave urself we igbos wud be too busy achieving feats in Africa, but u bunch of quick sands has turned everybody down south out of impoverishing them to criminals.
what feats exactly. the whole world knows the type of feats you are good at
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by SirShymexx: 4:23pm On Mar 15, 2016
darqly:


Amazing assertion! So kindly share with us ignorant ones, what do Northern Nigerians look like in diaspora?
And in which diaspora did you carry out your research too? And to think you're supposedly a superior southerner, with such a warped notion angry

You're a clown. No one alluded to superiority but if you feel those from the South are superior, then it is all on you. The relationship between North and South isn't symbiotic - it's an awkward one where one region is dependent on the other.

Regardless, my assertion/conclusion isn't just amazing - it is proven. That is the general belief. Which Nigerian group wears kaftan and sandals everywhere like Arabs during winter? And which group always live in seclusion amongst Arabs and areas dominated by Arabs?

Go find ya answers.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 4:23pm On Mar 15, 2016
darqly:


grin grin grin Nobody is holding you guys oh! Just stop buying the cows we send from Northeast FIRST. Hunger go kee some peeps grin grin
Who wants to buy it?
If left to we here in the south we wud blow up the bridges connecting to the north, u people should stay on ur own, leave us let the hunger kill us let's see who wud beg first.

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Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by MyGeneration(m): 4:32pm On Mar 15, 2016
iyb:

what feats exactly. the whole world knows the type of feats you are good at
D criminals dont want to share same passport with u non criminals, but u non criminals say its over your dead bodies, that says alot u know on telling who truly the bigger criminal is grin
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by forgiveness: 4:58pm On Mar 15, 2016
Oyinbo man go say "afterall, we are on the same boat" if any thing happens. And as long as Nigeria remains, every man dey benefit from each other. hehehe! Even God has made it in a way that no man or Nation can be independent of itself. It is written.

The truth is the leaders and the people are not intelligent. Ops! I should have said self-centered. That's all.
Re: Southerners Erroneously Think The North Is Dependent On The South - Ben Bruce by edoyad(m): 5:16pm On Mar 15, 2016
EasternActivist:


I'm highly disappointed in your submission.
How can you make the mistake of making a silly generalization.
One tends to wonder if there is any comparison between common sense decisions and advanced sensible decisions.

Please try and differentiate the two, both ain't comparable.

The name of the book I culled it from is "common sense revolution ". Please do try and read it before you reply, okay?

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