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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Nobody: 10:02am On Mar 19, 2016
check the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/2098236/general-german-visa-enquiries-part


staydogged:
Please do you know so much about germany, i wont mind to be infomred on it. Or is there a forum for it on nairaland?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:03am On Mar 19, 2016
Agreed, but it takes much more than a year to be near native in any new language o. (edited)
Bandeco:

I concur with you bro.... However, Germany arguably has the best integration mechanism in the world.. They offer free German language lessons to all immigrants(not only refugees) . So if anyone is serious about integration, within a year the person's German language ability should be near native level
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Arcayo: 10:04am On Mar 19, 2016
princeabisoye:
please help
You will not attach any document with the CIC forms, each documents have where you upload them, any additional documents will go along with your SOP space. Peace
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Bandeco(m): 10:05am On Mar 19, 2016
staydogged:
Please do you know so much about germany, i wont mind to be infomred on it. Or is there a forum for it on nairaland?

https://www.nairaland.com/2098236/general-german-visa-enquiries-part
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by DanIndia(m): 10:06am On Mar 19, 2016
It's OK. I could go on and on about this but then it would derail the reason why this thread was created in the first place.
I like to think it's inappropriate for people to deviate from the point that matters just because they find another option viable.

And, I'm beginning to think the word dogmatic is engraved on your computer screen. Heads up for ya, you might want to lessen the number of times you use it on this thread. There is something termed as Semantic satiation. Look it up online. You use a word too often, it starts to lose its meaning to the audience. Think of it as listening to repeated meaningless gibberish.

Anyways, keep using it if it makes you happy. grin

thesoj:
Ok no harm meant. You made some good points in the post below but your first post was emotive.
Let's leave that for the readers to judge.
Is taking & passing IELTS a bad price to pay if you get free tuition in return? You argue that Nigerians are bad writers (including you, see how you capitalized the first letters of words that are not proper nouns, a common error among Nigerian writers) but should that mean they shouldn't strive to improve said skills?
True. I mentioned the need to learn German (for integration) in my first post on this. But it stands that you don't need to learn German beforehand to get into an international masters program. Also, remember that not all Nigerians can afford Canada. That is the audience I'm writing to. You, however, seem to be dogmatic (yes. I used it again) about dismissing Germany.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Bandeco(m): 10:09am On Mar 19, 2016
Churkie:


@ Bandeco, @thesoj, please do you know schools in Germany that offer Msc in Petroleum Engineering. Do they accept Nigerian graduates with 2.2?
With 2.2 you can gain masters admission in Germany... Tuition is free, no application fee(accept you are applying through uniassist) , no acceptance fee.. Visa process relatively easy.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by DanIndia(m): 10:10am On Mar 19, 2016
You cannot be "near native level" within a year.
This is only possible if you've got nothing to be busy with (studies, work etc) and learn it the whole time. Studies in Germany is time consuming and demanding. It's hectic. It's hard for you to study in Germany and want to attend those classes with the hope of grasping it in a year.

It's almost IMPOSSIBLE.

Bandeco:

I concur with you bro.... However, Germany arguably has the best integration mechanism in the world.. They offer free German language lessons to all immigrants(not only refugees) . So if anyone is serious about integration, within a year the person's German language ability should be near native level

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by BE811APP: 10:12am On Mar 19, 2016
Please do they do bio-metrics for kids under 5 years?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:12am On Mar 19, 2016
It should be "semantic satiation" not "Semantic satiation". Don't use a capital "S" as the first letter of "semantic", it is NOT a proper noun. In addition, your commentary about my use of "dogmatic" is a lame attempt at sounding intelligent.
DanIndia:
It's OK. I could go on and on about this but then it would derail the reason why this thread was created in the first place.
I like to think it's inappropriate for people to deviate from the point that matters just because they find another option viable.

And, I'm beginning to think the word dogmatic is engraved on your computer screen. Heads up for ya, you might want to lessen the number of times you use it on this thread. There is something termed as Semantic satiation. Look it up online. You use a word too often, it starts to lose its meaning to the audience. Think of it as listening to repeated meaningless gibberish.

Anyways, keep using it if it makes you happy. grin

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by tangled: 10:12am On Mar 19, 2016
Dbnagato:



They put so many reasons at the back of the letter of refusal but they didn't tick any one of the reasons. Btw all my documents are legit and what is a GCMS file

I think you should open the letter on a laptop or desktop. You will not see the ticked box(es) if you view it on your phone.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by DanIndia(m): 10:19am On Mar 19, 2016
Haha. Apparently, you suck at the English Language than I thought. It's a term. A term starts with the first letter capitalized when it is not used in a sentence. If your lecturer asks you in a text-based conversation; Where are you going ? You don't say home, you say Home. You only say home when you respond with "I'm going home". Notice the first letter of the sentence capitalized.

Just do a google search, dude. Go to www.google.com and type in "semantic satiation". Tell me if you need classes. I'm afraid I'll have to refer to you though grin

OK. Make I sleep small, my brother. Nor bite me o, na joke I dey o. ehem.

thesoj:
It should be "semantic satiation" not "Semantic satiation". Don't use a capital "S" as the first letter of "semantic", it is NOT a proper noun. In addition, your commentary about my use of "dogmatic" is a lame attempt at sounding intelligent.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Dbnagato: 10:20am On Mar 19, 2016
tangled:


I think you should open the document on a laptop or desktop. You will not see the ticked box(es) if you view it on your phone.


Its paper bro not online

Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by tangled: 10:24am On Mar 19, 2016
Dbnagato:


Its paper bro not online
.
I thought you applied online, I am so sorry for that.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:25am On Mar 19, 2016
Diaris god oh! lolz.
Make we end this sha. I come to make love not war. No homo. cheesy
On a less feisty note, you are incorrect. You used semantic satiation in the middle of a sentence (not at the beginning) therefore it should all be in small letters unless it is a proper noun. Anyhow. You can google every use of "semantic satiation" and see where it is used in the middle of a sentence. Cheers. No more fight bro. grin

DanIndia:
Haha. Apparently, you suck at the English Language than I thought. It's a term. A term starts with the first letter capitalized when it is not used in a sentence. If your lecturer asks you in a text-based conversation; Where are you going ? You don't say home, you say Home. You only say home when you respond with "I'm going home". Notice the first letter of the sentence capitalized.

Just do a google search, dude. Go to www.google.com and type in "semantic satiation". Tell me if you need classes. I'm afraid I'll have to refer to you though grin

Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by DanIndia(m): 10:26am On Mar 19, 2016
Haha my brother. Na so e be.
Let's just agree to disagree. You win smiley
How about that ? Feel better ?

That being said, thank you for all you do on this thread.
thesoj:
Diaris god oh! lolz.
Make we end this sha. I come to make love not war. No homo. cheesy
On a less feisty note, you are incorrect. You used semantic satiation in the middle of a sentence (not at the beginning) therefore it should all be in small letters unless it is a proper noun. Anyhow. You can google every use of "semantic satiation" and see where it is used in the middle of a sentence. Cheers. No more fight bro. grin

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:28am On Mar 19, 2016
Ok ok. I don't like to win arguments if I'm wrong. I only argue if I think I'm right, but I'm very ok being proved wrong.
Issorait. Let's be friends. grin
DanIndia:
Haha my brother. Na so e be.
Let's just agree to disagree. You win smiley
How about that ? Feel better ?

That being said, thank you for all you do on this thread.
You are welcome.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Futurewiser: 10:29am On Mar 19, 2016
Bandeco:

With 2.2 you can gain masters admission in Germany... Tuition is free, no application fee(accept you are applying through uniassist) , no acceptance fee.. Visa process relatively easy.

I live and study in Germany. Is tuition free and the good thing is our work is not regulated like Canada where you only work 20 hours per week during sch and full time during holiday but we work full time weda holiday or during sch. You dont need to learn German cos there are lots of English speaking Universities. see the german thread here. join us. https://www.nairaland.com/2098236/general-german-visa-enquiries-part/447
then see here for list of schools to apply for https://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programs/en/

tuition is totally free so when you work there you send money home rather than using it to pay school fees like Canada case.

Make unua no kill unua sef for Canada.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by DanIndia(m): 10:34am On Mar 19, 2016
Oya, let's be friends. Friend Request Approved smiley
Chai, justwise go soon implement friend request system join this thread o. Let it be known that thesoj introduced it.
I co-introduced it too smiley
thesoj:
Ok ok. I don't like to win arguments if I'm wrong. I only argue if I think I'm right, but I'm very ok being proved wrong.
Issorait. Let's be friends. grin

You are welcome.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Futurewiser: 10:37am On Mar 19, 2016
DanIndia:
You cannot be "near native level" within a year.
This is only possible if you've got nothing to be busy with (studies, work etc) and learn it the whole time. Studies in Germany is time consuming and demanding. It's hectic. It's hard for you to study in Germany and want to attend those classes with the hope of grasping it in a year.

It's almost IMPOSSIBLE.


DanIndia have you been to Germany before? Pls allow people like us in Germany to speak from Experience. Germany is good.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 10:37am On Mar 19, 2016
Lol, this is how all Nairaland fights should end.
DanIndia:
Oya, let's be friends. Friend Request Approved smiley
Chai, justwise go soon implement friend request system join this thread o. Let it be known that thesoj introduced it.
I co-introduced it too smiley

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Futurewiser: 10:45am On Mar 19, 2016
Churkie:


@ Bandeco, @thesoj, please do you know schools in Germany that offer Msc in Petroleum Engineering. Do they accept Nigerian graduates with 2.2?

yes try Germany. Their visa is straight fwd

see here for list of schools to apply for https://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programs/en/

tuition is totally free so when you work there you send money home rather than using it to pay school fees like Canada case.

Make unua no kill unua sef for Canada.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by BE811APP: 10:50am On Mar 19, 2016
any help?

pls does any one have the VAC Abuja phone number?

BE811APP:
Please do they do bio-metrics for kids under 5 years?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Futurewiser: 10:56am On Mar 19, 2016
DanIndia:
Na like this una take dey confuse people.
Who told you Germany is easier to gain admission in ?
In fact, it is even difficult than Canada.
1. You need IELTS just as Canada
2. You need to learn the language to a certain level.
3. There is a huge competition because of the free education system. Lots and lots of people apply and you need concrete application documents (strong SOP etc).
4. The VISA is hard to acquire at the Embassy. They even have an Interview System
5. You need to even have about 2million naira to deposit to your German account before Visa acquisition.
And who told you there aren't "great" Engineering schools in Canada and that the economy isn't "Robust"?

Regardless of whatever reasons you've listed and that you're going to list, it's easier for you to Integrate in the Canadian society than the German's. Trust me, it's not even safe in some cities in Germany.
This young man have you forgotten interview is better to express yourself and proof you will come back than paper where they decide anything in your absence?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Futurewiser: 11:00am On Mar 19, 2016
thesoj:


Dude, it confounds me that you are both dogmatic and fear-mongering.

1. IELTS isn't a biggie if you speak English haba. Tuition in Germany is free, do you want them to have zero entry requirements?
2. No you don't need to learn German to study at the masters level in Germany in their international programs.
3. Of course you need concrete documents in the same way that you need concrete documents for Canada. I taya for you o. Compared to Canads, at least you can get an MSc admission in Germany with a 2:2 BSc from Naija. My bro got admission into a MSc in Computer Science (at a good school) because he put together an amazing application.
4. Capital NO. The visa is not hard to acquire. Their interview is straightforward and the outcome is not random like the US embassy, and they don't need all the documents in the world like the Canadian embassy. But you need to prepare for the interview, Germans don't want riff-raffs. Follow the German thread on NL and you will see this clearly.
5. Yes you need 8040 Euros, and that's ALL you need for a year to cover living expenses cos tuition is free. (Unlike Canada where you may need at least $25,000 CAD, which is equivalent to 17000Euros).

You just made my point. While Canada is excellent, it is not the only country in the world that offers great opportunities for Nigerian students. Germany is excellent as well.

Also, nobody said there aren't great engineering schools in Canada. We all know that. The fact of the matter is that Germany also has great schools.

PS: My bro almost went to Germany so I am intimately aware of the process. He got his Canada TRV two weeks before his Germany student visa appointment (we ran the processes in parallel).

You have said it all. But let me add that is not all schools that require Toefl or Ielts. Two schools I applied to when I was traveling to Germany did not even ask for any of it.
Let me also add that if you have a sponsor in Germany or living in Europe to give you an affidavit that he will care for you then the providence of the 8,000 euro account opening thing will be waived.

I believe is better to save than to spend on tuition in Canada.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Daveboiz(m): 11:07am On Mar 19, 2016
LOL.. y'll made my day already
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Dbnagato: 11:07am On Mar 19, 2016
tangled:
.

I thought you applied online, I am so sorry for that.


No prob bro. Tnks 4 ur contribution anyway
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Jayne07(f): 11:19am On Mar 19, 2016
Futurewiser:


Not all school ask for ielts
Which school did you apply to that didn't need IELTS
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Bandeco(m): 11:25am On Mar 19, 2016
DanIndia:
Na like this una take dey confuse people.
Who told you Germany is easier to gain admission in ?
In fact, it is even difficult than Canada.
1. You need IELTS just as Canada
2. You need to learn the language to a certain level.
3. There is a huge competition because of the free education system. Lots and lots of people apply and you need concrete application documents (strong SOP etc).
4. The VISA is hard to acquire at the Embassy. They even have an Interview System
5. You need to even have about 2million naira to deposit to your German account before Visa acquisition.
And who told you there aren't "great" Engineering schools in Canada and that the economy isn't "Robust"?

Regardless of whatever reasons you've listed and that you're going to list, it's easier for you to Integrate in the Canadian society than the German's. Trust me, it's not even safe in some cities in Germany.
Sorry to say- you are not well inform about Germany....

Admission is easier in Germany because with 2.2 and a good motivation letter you can get admission for a masters program in Deutschland.... A female friend of mine just got admission to study MSc international business in Berlin with a 2.84 CGPA.. Is this obtainable in Canada??

1) My friend didn't write IELTS before she gain admission. Most schools has it that if English is ur official language in ur home country, you don't need to document English language proficiency (which Nigeria is)

2) Lolzzz..... This is utter rubbish! You don't need to learn German language to gain admission or be granted study visa when ur program is being taught in English. Some BSc program are taught entirely in English while most MSc programs are tutored in English. GET UR FACTS WRITE

3) No one should be surprised.. How many countries in the world offers free and quality education at all levels to every human being on planet earth. You don't pay application fee sef. Only Norway and Germany offers absolute free education to everyone.... Canada doesn't even offer free education to her own citizens. With a good and passionate SOP, averagely good grades, applying to so many schools as possible. Ur admission is near certainty.

4) Oga German study visa is relatively easier to obtain. With genuine documents. To me the interview system offers one an interactive opportunity to better explain ur intentions. Some people are more articulate in verbal explanation. If ur documents are genuine, you respond well to the questions and fulfill the visa requirements ur visa is certain. Nothing like "home tie in country of residence and Canada" and people get denied because of these.. Smh... Many of my friends tried to no avial to obtain Canadian study visa but as I type a handful of them are in Deutschland now studying and working.. Making madt cash.

5) It is actually €8000(annual living expenses) If you get admission the embassy will open a German block account for you to fund it with the said amount. No hassle to be running helter skelter looking for sponsors.. They said money is still ur cash. You can even borrow it and when u get to Germany u can be remitting back bit by bit.. No need to provide bank statement and all the bla bla sponsors documents. Just open an account. Fund it with €8000 and that's all.

Read well Mr. There's nowhere I wrote that, they aren't great engineering schools in Canada.. I didn't even state one is better than the other in engineering discipline. Canadian economy is not as robust, innovative and efficient as the German economy. Germany has a more innovative, diverse, technology savvy, stronger economy than Canada #Fact
Canada has been in recession for sometime now where as Germany has been one of the best performing economy in the world for sometime now. #fact



I like Canada. Two of my siblings are studying there as I write . It is a beautiful country with world class education system and universities. But Germany provides a viable alternative to Canada

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by emma4eva(m): 11:31am On Mar 19, 2016
Jethrolite:
Please can anyone help with list of schools that are still accepting application. All the ones I have seen ended on March 15 and they said they are no longer accepting admission application into graduate program.
University of ryerson and University of Western Ontario
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Teos: 11:45am On Mar 19, 2016
Charrap dere, u Don Greet me this morning? U r coming to read nairaland. .. see ya head
Daveboiz:
LOL.. y'll made my day already

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