forgiveness:



Atleast, Steven Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard.

TheGoodJoe:



LOL.

So if someone ask you to suggest a player for Real Madrid to sign this summer, you will say Lampard and Gerard.

I have heard it all.

TheGoodJoe:


It was a very clear statement. Which of the English players today can walk into the starting line up of Bayern and Barca.

He is deviating because his World Cup favorites do not follow.

I wonder why it is painful to him that some local pure water selling young boys became big boys and made their family proud due to our focus in using the U17 to develop our grassroot talents.

The thing is painful to him that Nacho is now teaching Aguero how to dance Shoki.

forgiveness:



Atleast, Steven Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard.

safarigirl:
Lampard and Gerrard are old legs, closer to Beckham's set than Neymar's set

TheGoodJoe:


Who thought low of Alaba? It is even respect the coaches gave him. Boy you do not need this opportunity like our local boys. Alaba did not need the U17 to become a top star. Iheanacho, Nwakali, Osimhen needed it.

Iwobi did not need it. Look at him today. He is an addition to our team while we still could produce Iheanacho.

Caspian22:
Guys please let's stop derailing this thread. Let's talk about something important.

I was wondering, What caused the U20 of 2015 to fail despite the talents? and what can make this next set to succeed?

forgiveness:


We don thrash dis issue already and you know the outcome. Alaba was still an academy player when he came begging.

Caspian22:

A large majority of fans here blamed the poor outing of the last set ,due to poor team selection. But the problem was not just that. Other reasons were;
Overconfidence, Defense and poor midfield cohesion.

I'll Just hammer on the overconfidence part for now. Even though manu garba was always speaking humbly, we all know he was overly confident about winning the cup. He had won the title as an U17, won the AYC and had very popular players. I think that is the reason why no team that won the U17 has gone ahead to win the U20.

TheGoodJoe:


We trained for the tournament under the Summer conditions and played in a winter condition in the tourney. Even a one week preparation in a similar climate would have gone a long way.

After the Brazil match, we had a less tough fixture and Coach Garba should have used the top players of the team to get them to adapt to the team's philosophy. They were the best legs, Success, Iheanacho, Yahaya and Co. but he played a different front line. Coach Garba had the illusion that was a better team. Not talent wise but based in team cohesion.

It backfired in the German game where we needed individual talents to unlock a disciplined German side.

I think Coach Garba lacked experience of coaching the U20 World Cup and I hope he gets a second chance to correct his mistake.

I expect Coach Amunike to learn from the errors of Coach Garba and prepare better for the competition.

TheGoodJoe:



What part of "the players in Europe have better opportunities than our local talents" don't you understand?

forgiveness:


So, you mean all players in Europe are Successful because they have opportunity?

Talents should be placed over opportunity.

forgiveness:


So, you mean all players in Europe are Successful because they have opportunity?

Talents should be placed over opportunity.

TheGoodJoe:

I guess you mean government should devise a way to find only the brightest students and provide government funding for only the students that feel bright. Is that what you are saying?

The European kids have better economy, better structures, almost every top club have facilities no Academy in Nigeria have.

So your solution is, do not give the African talents like Iheanacho and Kelechi Nwakali opportunities and scout the foreign academies for their so called brightest talents.

Please stop all these. If you do not get that Iheanacho had to go through a tougher obstacle than Santi Mina of Valencia to get to where he is, I wonder what else you want me to say.

Iheanacho is doing far better than Solanke despite Solanke growing up with better facility and equipment, better coaches, better environment, better kits.

So, how you can not see that our grassroot players like Iheanacho needs a little opportunity to grow beats me.

It is simple logic. You do not need to be a genius to understand that every kid needs equal opportunities.

Unfortunately, the likes of Solanke have far better opportunities than our local talents there but you do not want equal opportunities for all kids but all for the Europeans.

TheGoodJoe:


I guess you mean government should devise a way to find only the brightest students and provide government funding for only the students that feel bright. Is that what you are saying?

The European kids have better economy, better structures, almost every top club have facilities no Academy in Nigeria have.

So your solution is, do not give the African talents like Iheanacho and Kelechi Nwakali opportunities and scout the foreign academies for their so called brightest talents.

Please stop all these. If you do not get that Iheanacho had to go through a tougher obstacle than Santi Mina of Valencia to get to where he is, I wonder what else you want me to say.

Iheanacho is doing far better than Solanke despite Solanke growing up with better facility and equipment, better coaches, better environment, better kits.

So, how you can not see that our grassroot players like Iheanacho needs a little opportunity to grow beats me.

It is simple logic. You do not need to be a genius to understand that every kid needs equal opportunities.

Unfortunately, the likes of Solanke have far better opportunities than our local talents there but you do not want equal opportunities for all kids but all for the Europeans.

TheGoodJoe:


I guess you mean government should devise a way to find only the brightest students and provide government funding for only the students that feel bright. Is that what you are saying?

The European kids have better economy, better structures, almost every top club have facilities no Academy in Nigeria have.

So your solution is, do not give the African talents like Iheanacho and Kelechi Nwakali opportunities and scout the foreign academies for their so called brightest talents.

Please stop all these. If you do not get that Iheanacho had to go through a tougher obstacle than Santi Mina of Valencia to get to where he is, I wonder what else you want me to say.

Iheanacho is doing far better than Solanke despite Solanke growing up with better facility and equipment, better coaches, better environment, better kits.

So, how you can not see that our grassroot players like Iheanacho needs a little opportunity to grow beats me.

It is simple logic. You do not need to be a genius to understand that every kid needs equal opportunities.

Unfortunately, the likes of Solanke have far better opportunities than our local talents there but you do not want equal opportunities for all kids but all for the Europeans.

BascoVanVeli:


Are u saying that a poor child who focuses on his studies cannot do better than his well to do classmates? I disagree with that notion. A lot of the greatest people grew up poor but yet still made it. The best are the best no matter rich or poor. Iheanacho was judged the best u-17 player in the world and Europe is in fact on earth so why would u think he wouldn't have had a chance to showcase his talents?
I say we have a selection commitee who give the coach a pool of talents and from there it would be up to the coach who he wants. We just need them in the system at least to protect our assets. I just thank God for Okocha cuz losing Iwobi and Ali to England would have been too much. We need all hands on deck to become great no need for alienating our own kids.

BascoVanVeli:


Are u saying that a poor child who focuses on his studies cannot do better than his well to do classmates? I disagree with that notion. A lot of the greatest people grew up poor but yet still made it. The best are the best no matter rich or poor. Iheanacho was judged the best u-17 player in the world and Europe is in fact on earth so why would u think he wouldn't have had a chance to showcase his talents?
I say we have a selection commitee who give the coach a pool of talents and from there it would be up to the coach who he wants. We just need them in the system at least to protect our assets. I just thank God for Okocha cuz losing Iwobi and Ali to England would have been too much. We need all hands on deck to become great no need for alienating our own kids.

forgiveness:


Of course, if that system worked for Japan and South Korea, why not? Best kids all the way but that is education.

Let us talk soccer.


Whether they have or not doesn't determines their success. Where did Yekini, Odegbami, Emunike played before they became the best? Europe? Hehehe. You know what i am talking about.

If they are good enough, let them fight for a shirt.

Iheanacho better than Solanke? Time will tell.

BascoVanVeli:


Are u saying that a poor child who focuses on his studies cannot do better than his well to do classmates? I disagree with that notion. A lot of the greatest people grew up poor but yet still made it. The best are the best no matter rich or poor. Iheanacho was judged the best u-17 player in the world and Europe is in fact on earth so why would u think he wouldn't have had a chance to showcase his talents?

forgiveness:



@ bolded said it all. Every Nigerian kid needs equal opportunity. That's all.

Does requesting for the inclusion of one or two exceptionally foreign talented players tantamount to asking for all European born kids?

TheGoodJoe:



Have you heard the term half baked graduates? Do you think they are all students who did not focus on their studies?

It has more to do with inadequate learning environment.

Why do you think Rich people send their kids overseas to study? It is to give their Children better standard of education.

So a child can work hard in class to better himself but that does not mean he is working in the best environment for his mind.

The U17 gives our local talents the chance to showcase their talents to the world. The likes of Alli, Barkley and Iwobi were already close to the destination our local talents are trying to reach.

BascoVanVeli:


Being wrong is not so bad, u don't have to argue needlessly. Environment means nothing. Oprah was poor and even raped and yet she is super rich. It is only hardwork that matters. Iheanacho worked hard and he made it, we didn't do him any favours he earned it.

forgiveness:
Solanke scored a brace after coming back from injury. Chai!

BlackAlbino6:
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EXCLUSIVE: LUKMAN ZAKARI ARRIVES TUNISIA TO BEGIN CAREER WITH SFAXIEN
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Nigeria U-17 World cup winner Lukman Zakara has arrived in Tunisia in the company of his elder brother Masaud to begin his career with top division side Sfaxien owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.


17 year old Zakari will train with the B team of the squad till he completes 18 year old in December when he will be eligible to sign professional contract with the team currently challenging for the title in Tunisia.


He will also enjoy the company of his elder brother Masaud before he clocks 18 as part of the measures put in place by the team to help him settle quickly into his new surroundings.


Owngoalnigeria.com gathered he will train twice with the main team every week although he will mostly spend time with the Elite squad which is the B team of Sfaxien.


They are unconfirmed reports as well that he will train permanently with the first team but drop down a level to play games for the B team before he turns 18.


His deal to Sfaxien was brokered by top Nigerian agent Babawo Mohammed and it’s reportedly worth $200,000 in transfer fee while the player is on a wage of $2,500 monthly aside a sign on fee of $210,000 spread over the five years of his deal.
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safarigirl:
I don't think you understand thegoodjoe's point. I don't think you want to understand it. I think you're fine with your conclusions

BascoVanVeli:


Being wrong is not so bad, u don't have to argue needlessly. Environment means nothing. Oprah was poor and even raped and yet she is super rich. It is only hardwork that matters. Iheanacho worked hard and he made it, we didn't do him any favours he earned it.